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De Kolta Chair  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:43:30pm

Not being a cable news channel watcher, I gotta ask has Anderson Cooper always been lousy at interviewing pols? Maury Povich would’ve done a better job.

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jaunte  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:44:53pm
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freetoken  Feb 17, 2016 • 8:57:17pm

re: #1 De Kolta Chair

Anderson is closer to Oprah than he is to Edward R Murrow, if that answers your question.

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De Kolta Chair  Feb 17, 2016 • 9:13:25pm

re: #3 freetoken

Anderson is closer to Oprah than he is to Edward R Murrow, if that answers your question.

I’m sure Cruz was as disappointed as I was that he didn’t get to do his version of “Seventy-Six Trombones” from The Music Man. Oprah wouldn’t have let that slip by. In fact, she’d have had 76 uniformed trombonists appear on stage and handed a giddy Ted a baton to lead them with.

Not that it matters. Robert Preston would’ve been spinning so loudly in his grave that the music would’ve been drowned out.

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Great White Snark  Feb 17, 2016 • 9:28:21pm

Creepy portrait done with 55 GoPros
Video

Did I see this guy at the GOP debate in the audience?

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Kragar  Feb 17, 2016 • 9:35:27pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2016 • 10:31:43pm

Some of these Trump fans are really creepy.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2016 • 10:32:17pm

LET TRUMP BE YOUR BALLS

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retired cynic  Feb 17, 2016 • 10:33:54pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

LET TRUMP BE YOUR BALLS

Ewwwww…..

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Kragar  Feb 17, 2016 • 10:34:44pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

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Kragar  Feb 17, 2016 • 10:40:22pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 17, 2016 • 10:43:11pm
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teleskiguy  Feb 17, 2016 • 10:45:27pm

I bowled like shit tonight. I rolled a 59, my best game out of three.

:-P

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retired cynic  Feb 17, 2016 • 10:45:47pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Well, that ram wasn’t!

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teleskiguy  Feb 17, 2016 • 10:53:58pm

Have y’all seen this?!? I can’t stop watching it.

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Cheechako  Feb 17, 2016 • 10:54:25pm

re: #13 teleskiguy

I bowled like shit tonight. I rolled a 59, my best game out of three.

:-P

If the bowling alley puts those tube thingys in the gutters you could probably score higher.

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teleskiguy  Feb 17, 2016 • 10:56:37pm

re: #16 Cheechako

If the bowling alley puts those tube thingys in the gutters you could probably score higher.

My co-worker who put this whole thing on tonight, I asked his girlfriend if we could put those things in. She curtly denied me, “No! We’re adults, Charlie.”

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Cheechako  Feb 17, 2016 • 10:57:54pm

re: #17 teleskiguy

My co-worker who put this whole thing on tonight, I asked his girlfriend if we could put those things in. She curtly denied me, “No! We’re adults, Charlie.”

Such is life.

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Ubiq  Feb 17, 2016 • 10:58:37pm
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teleskiguy  Feb 17, 2016 • 11:01:04pm

re: #13 teleskiguy

I did roll a spare, which happened to be all ten pins. So I rolled a “strike.” Eh?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 17, 2016 • 11:07:50pm

re: #13 teleskiguy

I bowled like shit tonight. I rolled a 59, my best game out of three.

:-P

My best bowling scores would make really great golf scores.

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Sophist, Vogon Poet Laureate  Feb 17, 2016 • 11:18:50pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

LET TRUMP BE YOUR BALLS

Well, he’s already nuts…

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retired cynic  Feb 17, 2016 • 11:20:41pm

New Stonekettle!

stonekettle.com

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teleskiguy  Feb 17, 2016 • 11:34:44pm

Something about myself.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 2:10:24am

re: #24 teleskiguy

One of the most important things that happened in my life is whensome dude in Gunnison, CO gave me a Zappa CD when I was 18.

I had a number of friends who sat me down when I was young and played me Hendrix, MC5, Neil Young, Zappa, The Who and Mott the Hoople. God bless those fellows, they changed my life.

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William Lewis  Feb 18, 2016 • 2:27:47am

re: #25 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I had a number of friends who sat me down when I was young and played me Hendrix, MC5, Neil Young, Zappa, The Who and Mott the Hoople. God bless those fellows, they changed my life.

Heard all that stuff on the radio growing up in flyover during the 70’s. Could not escape them and some cases, the Who forex, that was wonderful.

OTOH, my father was a janitor in the student union of the local university and one day cleaning out the lost and found he brought home The Ramones “Rocket to Russia” which lead to the Clash, Patti Smith and all the things that would keep me sane. By the end of the 70’s, it was a completely different musical universe for me and pretty much only The Who and oddly enough, Boston, we’re left from before.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 2:41:16am

re: #26 William Lewis

Heard all that stuff on the radio growing up in flyover during the 70’s. Could not escape them and some cases, the Who forex, that was wonderful.

OTOH, my father was a janitor in the student union of the local university and one day cleaning out the lost and found he brought home The Ramones “Rocket to Russia” which lead to the Clash, Patti Smith and all the things that would keep me sane. By the end of the 70’s, it was a completely different musical universe for me and pretty much only The Who and oddly enough, Boston, we’re left from before.

I was 11 or 12 at the time and my taste in music included The Carpenters, Bobby Goldsboro and John Denver. Those fellows turned me onto the underground FM stations in Chicago that played whole album side jams and obscure 60’s bands.

They also played Firesign Theater and Radio Lampoon Radio Show (pre-SNL) comedy skits.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2016 • 2:44:19am

re: #23 retired cynic

New Stonekettle!

stonekettle.com

It’s long, but that’s good stuff. If we don’t get our heads on straight, America dies from the inside, no matter what armored shell we present to the world.

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William Lewis  Feb 18, 2016 • 2:49:16am

re: #28 Decatur Deb

But how do you show that to the 50% that believe the big lie?

I’d emigrate but the US dying will take the world with it.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2016 • 2:58:16am

re: #29 William Lewis

But how do you show that to the 50% that believe the big lie?

I’d emigrate but the US dying will take the world with it.

Find a very few issues that must be defended—reality based education, equality under the law, voting rights. There is nowhere to go if we fall.

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William Lewis  Feb 18, 2016 • 3:09:58am

re: #30 Decatur Deb

I know and do what I can here in Fitzwalkerstan.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 3:11:50am

re: #30 Decatur Deb

Find a very few issues that must be defended—reality based education, equality under the law, voting rights. There is nowhere to go if we fall.

Basic education. Teaching people the difference between science and mythology, between reality TV and the realities of business and politics. Equality in real life and not just in Oscar nominations.

We have lost a lot of ground in recent decades…

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2016 • 3:19:11am

re: #31 William Lewis

I know and do what I can here in Fitzwalkerstan.

Try making progress here in RoyMooresville.

The list of issues above might itself be too low a level of abstraction. Above that we need a new humane art and a new philosophy, things things that only happen on a millennial scale. The Internet might help with that, if it doesn’t drown in porn and cat pictures.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 3:20:28am

re: #33 Decatur Deb

Try making progress here in RoyMooresville.

The list of issues above might itself be too low a level of abstraction. Above that we need a new humane art and a new philosophy, things things that only happen on a millennial scale. The Internet might help with that, if it doesn’t drown in porn and cat pictures.

…and Scalia assassination theories.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2016 • 3:22:00am

re: #34 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

…and Scalia assassination theories.

Used to be worried that as much as 27% of us might be functionally nuts. Optimism of youth.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 3:24:11am

re: #35 Decatur Deb

Used to be worried that as much as 27% of us might be functionally nuts. Optimism of youth.

functionally nuts and not afraid to tell the whole world about it in excruciating detail

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2016 • 3:31:33am

re: #36 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

functionally nuts and not afraid to tell the whole world about it in excruciating detail

Doctor Phil will save us.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 18, 2016 • 3:33:55am
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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2016 • 3:42:48am

WaPo has picked up the Trump torture policy:

washingtonpost.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 3:53:12am

re: #38 Dave In Austin

If I’m elected, on my 1st day in office I’ll instruct every federal agency that the fundamentalist Christian theocratic state begins today

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 18, 2016 • 3:56:18am

re: #38 Dave In Austin

Such laws already exist. First Amendment and all that. But that’s not the kind of religious liberty he means.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 3:59:54am

re: #41 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Such laws already exist. First Amendment and all that. But that’s not the kind of religious liberty he means.

It goes back to the fundamental American myth that the Puritans came here to seek “religious liberty”, while they really came here to exercise the “right” to impose their religious standards on the entire community through legislation.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 18, 2016 • 4:03:35am

The New York Times offers up an infographic about SCOTUS appointments.

nytimes.com

A picture is worth a thousand words of arglebargle.

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thedopefishlives  Feb 18, 2016 • 4:09:04am

Morning Lizardim. I just wanted to hop on and say that my Facebook exploded overnight because they claim Obama isn’t attending Scalia’s funeral and that it’s “unprecedented”. I’m more like, the dude is finishing up the last few months of one of the most stressful jobs on this planet; I think I can spare him a little courtesy when it comes to the funeral of a Supreme Court justice. How go things among the lizardfolk?

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 18, 2016 • 4:18:50am

Someone may have posted already, but The Guv LePage does it again:

bostonglobe.com

“Asylum seekers bring diseases like ‘ziki fly’”

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2016 • 4:22:58am

re: #45 Barefoot Grin

Someone may have posted already, but The Guv LePage does it again:

bostonglobe.com

“Asylum seekers bring diseases like ‘ziki fly’”

I’m seeing the poor guv confusing it with ‘Tse-tse fly”, carrier of sleeping sickness, one of the big deals of 1950s childhood folklore.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 18, 2016 • 4:23:52am

Quite indirectly, boobs led to the invention of the stethoscope.

mentalfloss.com

Direct application of a doctor’s ear to a lady’s chest to listen to her heart was, shall we say, not ideal in the 19th century. Or any century, I suppose. Then a French doctor had an inspiration: he rolled up a sheet of paper into a tube and used that to listen to his patient’s heartbeat. Turns out it worked better than just using his ear. He refined the instrument, later called the stethoscope.

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William Lewis  Feb 18, 2016 • 4:23:54am

re: #42 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It goes back to the fundamental American myth that the Puritans came here to seek “religious liberty”, while they really came here to exercise the “right” to impose their religious standards on the entire community through legislation.

Just remember the four quakers that the Puritans were happy to hang for not being the right kind of protestant.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 18, 2016 • 4:25:44am

re: #46 Decatur Deb

I’m seeing the poor guv confusing it with ‘Tse-tse fly”, carrier of sleeping sickness, one of the big deals of 1950s childhood folklore.

Ha, yes. Judging by his haircut and mindset, I’d say LePage is stuck in the 1950s.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 18, 2016 • 4:26:06am

So, here’s a new spin on the latest conspiracy craze sweeping the nation.

Glenn Beck: God had to kill Antonin Scalia to help put Ted Cruz in the White House

Link goes to Raw Story, btw, not Beck’s site.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 18, 2016 • 4:29:43am

re: #48 William Lewis

Just remember the four quakers that the Puritans were happy to hang for not being the right kind of protestant.

They also chased the Baptists out. Roger Williams took off and founded Rhode Island.

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Schroedinger's Dog  Feb 18, 2016 • 4:30:40am

re: #47 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Quite indirectly, boobs led to the invention of the stethoscope.

mentalfloss.com

Direct application of a doctor’s ear to a lady’s chest to listen to her heart was, shall we say, not ideal in the 19th century. Or any century, I suppose. Then a French doctor had an inspiration: he rolled up a sheet of paper into a tube and used that to listen to his patient’s heartbeat. Turns out it worked better than just using his ear. He refined the instrument, later called the stethoscope.

Putting your ear directly to the chest is a lot more fun, though. If that fails, I suggest feeling for a heartbeat.

However, this is only a good idea of you’re playing doctor, not an actual doctor.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 4:31:13am

re: #44 thedopefishlives

Morning Lizardim. I just wanted to hop on and say that my Facebook exploded overnight because they claim Obama isn’t attending Scalia’s funeral and that it’s “unprecedented”. I’m more like, the dude is finishing up the last few months of one of the most stressful jobs on this planet; I think I can spare him a little courtesy when it comes to the funeral of a Supreme Court justice. How go things among the lizardfolk?

Facebook explodes because Obama is President.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2016 • 4:33:40am

re: #43 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

The New York Times offers up an infographic about SCOTUS appointments.

nytimes.com

A picture is worth a thousand words of arglebargle.

I “love it” when wingnuts Tweet a meme saying A PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS!!!!1!! and their picture is a graphic of 1000-words wall o’text.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 18, 2016 • 4:34:04am

Good gawd, Joe Scarborough is on a rampage this morning as he desperately defends Donald Trump.

Joe Klein: Trump doesn’t know anything about policy
Joe Scarborough: Yeah, explain why he’s about to win South Carolina

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Dave In Austin  Feb 18, 2016 • 4:37:41am

re: #55 Dr. Matt

Good gawd, Joe Scarborough is on a rampage this morning as he desperately defends Donald Trump.

I’m telling you Matt, Joe is looking for a cabinet position.

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Schroedinger's Dog  Feb 18, 2016 • 4:38:04am

re: #55 Dr. Matt

Good gawd, Joe Scarborough is on a rampage this morning as he desperately defends Donald Trump.

Joe Klein: Trump doesn’t know anything about policy
Joe Scarborough: Yeah, explain why he’s about to win South Carolina

Because S. Carolina doesn’t know anything about policy either.

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 18, 2016 • 4:38:43am

re: #55 Dr. Matt

Yeah, explain why he’s about to win South Carolina

Because a significant portion of the American public are drooling morons who spend every moment of their lives in pants filling fear because they’ve been told to live that way.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 18, 2016 • 4:40:21am

re: #54 The Vicious Babushka

I “love it” when wingnuts Tweet a meme saying A PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS!!!!1!! and their picture is a graphic of 1000-words wall o’text.

And their tweets are one link and mass of hashtags.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 18, 2016 • 4:41:55am

re: #57 Schroedinger’s Dog

Because S. Carolina doesn’t know anything about policy either.

The exact same sycophants who believe(d) Sarah Palin would make a great president also believe Donald Trump would make a great president. It’s actually sad so many Americans have so little regard for our country that they would support such completely deficient candidates.

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Bubblehead II  Feb 18, 2016 • 4:43:41am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 4:45:54am

re: #60 Dr. Matt

The exact same sycophants who believe(d) Sarah Palin would make a great president also believe Donald Trump would make a great president. It’s actually sad so many Americans have so little regard for our country that they would support such completely deficient candidates.

Hate to say that I could understand the attraction for Palin more than for DT. Sarah, at least in their view, stood for rugged individualism, strong family values, self-reliance, etc. What does Trump stand for besides being loud, oppressive and bigoted?

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2016 • 4:47:20am

re: #62 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Hate to say that I could understand the attraction for Palin more than for DT. Sarah, at least in their view, stood for rugged individualism, strong family values, self-reliance, etc. What does Trump stand for besides being loud, oppressive and bigoted?

HE HAS TEH MONEYS & SUPER HOT WIFE & DOES FANTASTIC DEALS!!!!1!!!!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 18, 2016 • 4:51:37am

re: #60 Dr. Matt

The exact same sycophants who believe(d) Sarah Palin would make a great president also believe Donald Trump would make a great president. It’s actually sad so many Americans have so little regard for our country that they would support such completely deficient candidates.

They really have no idea what the job requires. POTUS is not a figurehead position, with a prime minister doing all the heavy lifting as head of state. POTUS is the Boss of the USA, in many respects, and as Truman’s sign said, “The buck stops here.” If something goes wrong, he or she can’t shift blame to anyone else, because the prexy is CEO, head of state and commander-in-chief all rolled into one.

I can’t see Trump ever taking responsibility for one of his errors. And Cruz would likely hide behind Gawd and the Bible. Palin would need a small of army of handlers just to find the Oval Office when she was sober. Any one of them would make the USA the laughingstock of the world.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 18, 2016 • 4:52:28am

re: #62 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Hate to say that I could understand the attraction for Palin more than for DT. Sarah, at least in their view, stood for rugged individualism, strong family values, self-reliance, etc. What does Trump stand for besides being loud, oppressive and bigoted?

You mean strong family values. Clearly we now know her family values completely suck and that she’s a terrible mother and wife. In other words, she’s nothing but a huge facade just like Trump.

But, continuing on with my original point, Palin’s knowledge of policy is nearly as pathetic and superficial as Trump’s. But, I’ll give her a quarter of ounce of credit since she was at least a half term governor of state with one of the smallest populations.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2016 • 4:53:07am

re: #64 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

If something goes wrong, he or she can’t shift blame to anyone else, because the prexy is CEO, head of state and commander-in-chief all rolled into one.

Carly was CEO and never assumed responsibility for any of her fuckups, in fact she used those fuckups as “proof” of her “expertise”

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 4:54:17am

re: #64 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

I can’t see Trump ever taking responsibility for one of his errors. And Cruz would likely hide behind Gawd and the Bible. Palin would need a small of army of handlers just to find the Oval Office when she was sober. Any one of them would make the USA the laughingstock of the world.

Cruz is a cynical bastard who knows better and does not believe anything of what he feeds to the voting masses. Trump is also aware of the great chasm between his blowhard promises and claims and what he could really accomplish.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 4:56:30am

re: #65 Dr. Matt

You mean strong family values. Clearly we now know her family values completely suck and that she’s a terrible mother and wife. In other words, she’s nothing but a huge facade just like Trump.

But, continuing on with my original point, Palin’s knowledge of policy is nearly as pathetic and superficial as Trump’s. But, I’ll give her a quarter of ounce of credit since she was at least a half term governor of state with one of the smallest populations.

That is what she stood for in the eyes of her supporters. I believe she was supposed to be a blank canvas onto which they could project their image of the ideal candidate. The effect, however, was spoiled the second she opened her mouth.

And the message with her daughter was clear, if not expressed in so many words: “I made my daughter carry this low-life’s baby to term, and I am going to force your daughter, too, if she gets knocked up by some loser!”

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Dr. Matt  Feb 18, 2016 • 4:56:43am

And in nerd news:

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 18, 2016 • 4:56:47am

re: #66 The Vicious Babushka

Carly was CEO and never assumed responsibility for any of her fuckups, in fact she used those fuckups as “proof” of her “expertise”

Another candidate whose self-image far outweighs her actual qualifications for the job. I look at these GOP candidates and shake my head in astonishment that the Republican Party could not find one halfway decent candidate who could be presidential material.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 18, 2016 • 4:58:01am

re: #69 Dr. Matt

And in nerd news:

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Pluto will always be a planet in my heart.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 4:58:05am

re: #70 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Another candidate whose self-image far outweighs her actual qualifications for the job. I look at these GOP candidates and shake my head in astonishment that the Republican Party could not find one halfway decent candidate who could be presidential material.

The GOP could find several, but would never be able to nominate any of them because the party has been derailed by extremists.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 4:58:54am

re: #71 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Pluto will always be a planet in my heart.

I agree, I used to live in Flagstaff at the base of Mars Hill, home of the Lowell Observatory. We used to go picnic at Pervial Lowell’s mausoleum.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 18, 2016 • 4:59:24am
re: #68 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

And the message with her daughter was clear, if not expressed in so many words: “I made my daughter carry this low-life’s baby to term, and I am going to force your daughter, too, if she gets knocked up by some loser!”

I have little doubt that if Bristol’s mother was anyone else, she would have likely terminated one, if not both, pregnancies.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:01:53am

re: #72 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The GOP could find several, but would never be able to nominate any of them because the party has been derailed by extremists.

I’m aware of that. The “establishment” candidates — meaning the ones not beloved by the Tea Party — are tepid facsimiles of presidential material. Jeb! is a joke! and Rubiobot is not ready for primetime.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:02:18am

re: #24 teleskiguy

Yes, I first encountered Frank when I was 10. My friend played all four sides of FREAK OUT. I had never heard anything like that before. Mom and Dad wouldn’t allow “jungle music” to be played in our house. It was always Mario Lanza, Tennessee Ernie Ford, Broadway or movie soundtracks on our record player.

So I bought a copy of Freak Out with my paper route money and I hid it in my newspaper bag. Snuck it upstairs to my bedroom and hid it in the old chimney in my room. I played it when Mom and Dad were out. There were several “close calls” when I saw the car pulling up and I had to pull it out of the record player. But when I heard it I felt like Frank was speaking to me that it was OK to flip the bird to the system…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:03:17am

re: #74 Dr. Matt

I have little doubt that if Bristol’s mother was anyone else, she would have likely terminated one, if not both, pregnancies.

If Bristol had had a different mother, she would have been on the Pill, or at least used the morning-after pill.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:04:34am

re: #69 Dr. Matt

And in nerd news:

On this day in 1930, Pluto was first discovered. It would be considered a planet until 2006.

Sic transit gloria mundorum.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:06:44am
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Dr. Matt  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:07:15am

re: #77 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

If Bristol had had a different mother, she would have been on the Pill, or at least used the morning-after pill.

Touche’.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:07:15am

re: #76 Joe Bacon

“Jungle music” — haven’t heard that term in a long, long time.

These young whites made black music their own by learning the dances, memorizing the slang, and copying the cool swagger of African-American boogie-woogie and rhythm and blues artists. They claimed as their own a genre scorned by most whites born before World War II (and by some middle- and upper-class blacks) as “jungle music” for its sexually aggressive lyrics that seemed to encourage wild, disgraceful dancing, excessive drinking, and violent behavior.

shmoop.com

Now it’s used to refer to a kind of electronic music with a heavy beat.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:07:55am

re: #76 Joe Bacon

Yes, I first encountered Frank when I was 10. My friend played all four sides of FREAK OUT. I had never heard anything like that before. Mom and Dad wouldn’t allow “jungle music” to be played in our house. It was always Mario Lanza, Tennessee Ernie Ford, Broadway or movie soundtracks on our record player.

So I bought a copy of Freak Out with my paper route money and I hid it in my newspaper bag. Snuck it upstairs to my bedroom and hid it in the old chimney in my room. I played it when Mom and Dad were out. There were several “close calls” when I saw the car pulling up and I had to pull it out of the record player. But when I heard it I felt like Frank was speaking to me that it was OK to flip the bird to the system…

At one time Pat Boone covers and the Everly brothers were just as subversive. And we knew it.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:13:37am

Birth of the Cool

Miles Davis - Boplicity

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:15:38am

re: #82 Decatur Deb

At one time Pat Boone covers and the Everly brothers were just as subversive. And we knew it.

My father was really old-fashioned when it came to music. But he surprised me one day when he played a Quadraphonic Joan Baez record a friend gave him, and said, “You know, she has a really great voice!” And believe it or not, I think he secretly liked Janis Joplin.

The key was who introduced him to the music. If it had been me, he would have discounted Janis and Joan as “teenage” stuff. But his best friend loaned him these discs, Quadraphonic re-masters of the original LPs, so they were then OK.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:21:27am

The nuns showed 2nd or 3rd run movies at our reform boarding school. To their everlasting credit, they introduced us to Little Richard (Rock Around the Clock).

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BeenHereAwhile  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:24:00am

re: #82 Decatur Deb

At one time Pat Boone covers and the Everly brothers were just as subversive. And we knew it.

I always thought it was ironic that my older sister went to college in Alabama in 1961, and came home bringing R&B artists like Ernie K-Doe. After that us fellow siblings started listening to the black radio station in Tampa, FL.

Prior to that, music in the home was Broadway musicals, Montovanti, classical, Shelly Berman, and 45s that were pulled from grandfather’s juke box & coin machine business.

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Ghost of Jeb! Campaign's Future  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:30:08am

re: #69 Dr. Matt

And in nerd news:

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On this day in 1930, Pluto was first discovered. It would will be considered a planet until 2006 THE SUN STARTS CONSUMING THE SOLAR SYSTEM BILLIONS OF YEARS FROM NOW.

Fixed. :)

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:30:22am

re: #86 BeenHereAwhile

I always thought it was ironic that my older sister went to college in Alabama in 1961, and came home bringing R&B artists like Ernie K-Doe. After that us fellow siblings started listening to the black radio station in Tampa, FL.

Prior to that, music in the home was Broadway musicals, Montovanti, classical, Shelly Berman, and 45s that were pulled from grandfather’s juke box & coin machine business.

That’s what happens when you send them to godless secular-humanist hellholes to be corrupted.

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Alyosha  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:31:20am

re: #85 Decatur Deb

The nuns showed 2nd or 3rd run movies at our reform boarding school. To their everlasting credit, they introduced us to Little Richard (Rock Around the Clock).

I might be infringing on a few lawns but I danced to that song biannually throughout the nineties when I was in primary school. I hatec dancing with people, because I’m naturally awkward, but I always loved that song.
The modern song, included to placate our youthful yearnings and to which we danced squarely, was Billy Ray Cyrus’ gem.
Strangely, your nuns seem less authoritarian now…

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:32:22am

re: #87 Domo Arigato Marco Roboto

Fixed. :)

Pluto Irredento!

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Alyosha  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:33:46am

re: #90 Decatur Deb

Unfortunately, my only formal public schooling on Latin involved Ricky Martin…

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Dr. Matt  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:34:00am

I think Rage Furby is experiencing the onset of tertiary neurosyphilis

Why are all the hobbits white? Do they have white privilege? Or are they a part of the white supremacy too?Posted by Charles C. Johnson on Thursday, February 18, 2016
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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:37:50am

re: #89 Alyosha

I might be infringing on a few lawns but I danced to that song biannually throughout the nineties when I was in primary school. I hatec dancing with people, because I’m naturally awkward, but I always loved that song.
The modern song, included to placate our youthful yearnings and to which we danced squarely, was Billy Ray Cyrus’ gem.
Strangely, your nuns seem less authoritarian now…

We had unusually cool nuns, daughters of coal miners and steel workers who joined a congregation founded by the 1840s “Apostle to the Unions”.

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Alyosha  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:39:23am

re: #93 Decatur Deb

We had unusually cool nuns, daughters of coal miners and steel workers who joined a congregation founded by the 1840s “Apostle to the Unions”.

Hipster nuns? Got into the whole liberation theology before it was cool.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:41:47am

re: #94 Alyosha

Hipster nuns? Got into the whole liberation theology before it was cool.

Was shocked when I researched them later. One of the congregation wrote a PhD thesis on evolving roles of women in the workplace—in 1944.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:43:27am

OK, Bernie Sanders now officially has the Best Swag

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Decatur Deb  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:47:21am

Off to N Alabama for a few days—won’t be around much. BBL

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:47:55am

re: #94 Alyosha

Hipster nuns? Got into the whole liberation theology before it was cool.

Before the concept of weekends or paid vacations, the only days workers had off were Sundays and Holy Days.

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Alyosha  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:48:29am

re: #96 The Vicious Babushka

Are we going to hear in 2018 how ‘totes bummed’ he is like last time?

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lizardofid  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:48:36am

re: #95 Decatur Deb

Was shocked when I researched them later. One of the congregation wrote a PhD thesis on evolving roles of women in the workplace—in 1944.

True story, in 1944 Mom was a welder in a defense plant. By 1946 she was back to sewing drapes.

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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:49:27am

re: #56 Dave In Austin

I’m telling you Matt, Joe is looking for a cabinet position.

Morning!

Is Vice President a cabinet position?

/

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:50:25am

re: #100 lizardofid

True story, in 1944 Mom was a welder in a defense plant. By 1946 she was back to sewing drapes.

There was a conscious effort made after the war to get women out of the factories and back into the home where they belonged.

One of the factors that stalled the German war effort was the Nazis’ aversion to using women in the labor force at all.

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Alyosha  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:50:48am

re: #100 lizardofid

True story, in 1944 Mom was a welder in a defense plant. By 1946 she was back to sewing drapes.

Total war has that effect on society. Sad what it took to get that kind of workplace participation and that it couldn’t be maintained in peacetime.

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Alyosha  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:53:51am

re: #98 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Before the concept of weekends or paid vacations, the only days workers had off were Sundays and Holy Days.

Hence the phrase, ‘Thank God it’s (The Blessed, Holy, Bloody-Gorgeous Day before the Sabbath)’?

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:54:16am

re: #102 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

There was a conscious effort made after the war to get women out of the factories and back into the home where they belonged.

One of the factors that stalled the German war effort was the Nazis’ aversion to using women in the labor force at all.

They used Slavic & Polish women prisoners as forced labor.

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Alyosha  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:55:14am

re: #102 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Lebensborn was their only measly attempt at feminising the armament industry.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:56:25am

re: #100 lizardofid

True story, in 1944 Mom was a welder in a defense plant. By 1946 she was back to sewing drapes.

True story, in 1944 my grandfather worked on an assembly line in a defense plant. By 1946 he was still on an assembly line but now for Ford Motor Co. Even though he was a uber Union supporter, I have a feeling if he was still alive today he would be a Trump supporter.

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lizardofid  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:58:13am

re: #100 lizardofid

True story, in 1944 Mom was a welder in a defense plant. By 1946 she was back to sewing drapes.

Oddly, I learned this fact when, as a youngster I was playing around with Pops arc welder. I was just sticking a couple of pieces of scrap together, but when Mom saw me quenching the hot part in water, she told me if I wanted the weld strong. to let it cool in the sand, slowly. Heh.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:58:34am

re: #105 The Vicious Babushka

They used Slavic & Polish women prisoners as forced labor.

I was teaching outside Frankfurt and went for a walk in the woods on my lunch break. There I stumbled upon a series of commemorative plaques marking the site of a women’s labor camp established there in late 1944 to extend the runways at the Frankfurt airport to accommodate jet aircraft.

Women were sent there from Theresienstedt and Auschwitz to live work under the most primitive conditions.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 5:59:22am

re: #108 lizardofid

Oddly, I learned this fact when, as a youngster I was playing around with Pops arc welder. I was just sticking a couple of pieces of scrap together, but when Mom saw me quenching the hot part in water, she told me if I wanted the weld strong. to let it cool in the sand, slowly. Heh.

Rosie the Riveter and Wendy the Welder…

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lawhawk  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:01:11am

re: #6 Kragar

SNL wouldn’t go for it. Deadpool’s too funny for SNL to handle. Then again, it’d be the funniest thing done on the show in decades.

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lizardofid  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:06:10am

re: #110 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Rosie the Riveter and Wendy the Welder…

Yes. She worked at North American Rockwell down here. A couple of her aunts moved up to the Chicago area to work in another Rockwell plant. One of them, the youngest, fell in love with the place and never came back. She died a single Cubbies fan at a ripe old age,

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lawhawk  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:06:30am

re: #41 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Such laws already exist. First Amendment and all that. But that’s not the kind of religious liberty he means.

Cruz and the other theocrats don’t care about the 1A so much as they want to impose their religious beliefs and reserve the right to be bigots without fear of violating the 1A (that’s the religious freedom they seek - the right to impose their views without worrying that a judge will see it for what it is - condoning bigotry and racism through state action in furtherance of a “religious” view).

Same thing with the 2A. They’re concerned that Scalia’s replacement might realize that the 2A contains limiting clauses, and that reasonable regulations are incorporated into the 2A - “a well regulated militia” for instance. That hardly means taking all the guns away, but the NRA and GOP have brainwashed so many into thinking this is the case, that it’ll be an uphill battle no matter what.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:09:04am

The Morning Butthurt, right on schedule==>

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Kent Dorfman  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:16:57am

Shortly after I left the market the other day with a hot apple pie, a homeless man shambled up to me and said, “Mister, I haven’t eaten in three days.”

Boy, I wish I had his will power.

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Belafon  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:17:19am

re: #40 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

If I’m elected, on my 1st day in office I’ll instruct every federal agency that the fundamentalist Christian theocratic state begins today

And that’s another myth about the “good ole days.” We have never been the Christian nation they claim. In the fifties, we were way more realistic and scientific then they want to remember. When we were highly “Christian”, we were lynching blacks and denying Chinese the rights they deserved and the fruits of their labor.

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William Lewis  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:21:06am

re: #82 Decatur Deb

At one time Pat Boone covers and the Everly brothers were just as subversive. And we knew it.

The Everly Brothers & Buddy Holly did a lot to upset more than a few apple carts in the music system.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:21:40am

re: #116 Belafon

And that’s another myth about the “good ole days.” We have never been the Christian nation they claim. In the fifties, we were way more realistic and scientific then they want to remember. When we were highly “Christian”, we were lynching blacks and denying Chinese the rights they deserved and the fruits of their labor.

There was a time, however, then Christianity was very much the public default religion and people who opposed it being propagated by public and government institutions tended to keep their mouths shut and not call attention to their minority religion/atheist status, which is the sort of thing that Ted would like to see again.

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Great White Snark  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:22:28am

re: #113 lawhawk

Heller dispensed with the militia as a requirement. Who wants militias encouraged? Seems to me Heller took care of outright bans, and left everything else intact. Federal state and local. California has not lost a challenge to a gun control law in court for a very long time now, although that’s gonna change as the crypto handgun “safety” ban gets more onerous.

I don’t expect a future court to overturn Heller any more than one end Roe V Wade.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:23:56am

In an interview, Biden hints that the President will nominate a judge who has previously received unanimous GOP support. Two mentioned in the AP story are Sri Srinivasan and Jane Kelly. If it is Srinivasan, expect a rightwing derplosion opposing the appointment of a non-Christian to the Court.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:27:05am

re: #119 Great White Snark

Heller dispensed with the militia as a requirement. Who wants militias

The “militia” concept evolved into what we now call the National Guard, which is nominally under the direct command of the state’s governor and not the President.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:27:17am

So, let me see if I understand this correctly. There were two televised GOP townhall meetings last night? One was Trump by himself, the other was all the other GOP candidates except Trump?

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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:27:22am

re: #67 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Cruz is a cynical bastard who knows better and does not believe anything of what he feeds to the voting masses. Trump is also aware of the great chasm between his blowhard promises and claims and what he could really accomplish.

TRUMP? wants that title and a bunch of pictures of him being sworn in and talking with Putin so he can hang them on his walls and look at them lovingly.

He’ll just have to remove some of the others from The Donald’s? Wall of Greatness to make space.

He’ll then be treated by the GOP similarly as Obama was because they won’t acknowledge him especially if he does stuff to health insurance and doesn’t stop all abortion. And then of course all those that didn’t vote for him will hate him…so he has the potential to be one of the most hated American presidents ever. So he’ll be impeached.

/

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:27:50am

re: #120 Big Beautiful Door

In an interview, Biden hints that the President will nominate a judge who has previously received unanimous GOP support. Two mentioned in the AP story are Sri Srinivasan and Jane Kelly. If it is Srinivasan, expect a rightwing derplosion opposing the appointment of a non-Christian to the Court.

It will highlight the fact that they are hypocritical, ideologically hide-bound obstructionists, a trap that they will gladly walk right into.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:28:55am

re: #120 Big Beautiful Door

If it is [somebody], expect a rightwing derplosion opposing the appointment. of a non-Christian to the Court.

Fixed

/

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:30:41am

re: #124 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It will highlight the fact that they are hypocritical, ideologically hide-bound obstructionists, a trap that they will gladly walk right into.

So you’re ignoring the nation’s proud Constitutional tradition in which presidents never nominate candidates for the SCOTUS in their last year of office?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:33:01am

re: #126 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

So you’re ignoring the nation’s proud Constitutional tradition in which presidents never nominate candidates for the SCOTUS in their last year of office?

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There is another proud GOP tradition of opposing anything that Obama supports, even if they themselves once supported it.

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Great White Snark  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:33:06am

re: #121 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Which completely, utterly removes it from consideration in that context. It’s just the Army now. Also-The Nat’l guard has entry restrictions for physical disability and age. Those are not allowed to impinge on an individual right such as the Second. Heck until not long ago that would have prohibited women from buying guns as they could not join the guard.

The modern militia (in as much as we think we need this distinction) is more like what we saw in Korea town during the Rodney King riots and assaults on store owners. Or the armed molotov fire bomb watch teams that formed up. At this point the well regulated would be gun restrictions already on the books and training/safety rules for all gun owners. At least that scenario is realistic.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:33:11am

re: #112 lizardofid

Yes. She worked at North American Rockwell down here. A couple of her aunts moved up to the Chicago area to work in another Rockwell plant. One of them, the youngest, fell in love with the place and never came back. She died a single Cubbies fan at a ripe old age,

When I visited the Swedesboro, Iowa, Swedish-American Museum with my daughter and son-in-law last summer, our guide was a former riveter for Boeing. She helped put B-29s together.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:33:16am

re: #126 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

So you’re ignoring the nation’s proud Constitutional tradition in which presidents never nominate candidates for the SCOTUS in their last year of office?

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No presidentin’ while black in your last year in office!

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BeenHereAwhile  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:33:22am

re: #117 William Lewis

The Everly Brothers & Buddy Holly did a lot to upset more than a few apple carts in the music system.

Elvis

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Belafon  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:36:21am

re: #120 Big Beautiful Door

In an interview, Biden hints that the President will nominate a judge who has previously received unanimous GOP support. Two mentioned in the AP story are Sri Srinivasan and Jane Kelly. If it is Srinivasan, expect a rightwing derplosion opposing the appointment of a non-Christian to the Court.

I went to go look up some info about the two of them, and found this on Kelly’s Wikipedia page:

In 2004, Kelly was attacked while jogging in a park in Cedar Rapids, and was brutally beaten and left barely conscious; her assailant was never identified.[

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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:37:39am

re: #115 Kent Dorfman

Shortly after I left the market the other day with a hot apple pie, a homeless man shambled up to me and said, “Mister, I haven’t eaten in three days.”

Boy, I wish I had his will power.

Boy, that sure was funny. I take it that is Republican humor. /

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:38:39am

re: #120 Big Beautiful Door

In an interview, Biden hints that the President will nominate a judge who has previously received unanimous GOP support. Two mentioned in the AP story are Sri Srinivasan and Jane Kelly. If it is Srinivasan, expect a rightwing derplosion opposing the appointment of a non-Christian to the Court.

I like that idea a lot. And yeah I totally expect freak out about his religion and idiots thinking he’s Muslim.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:39:10am

re: #132 Belafon

I went to go look up some info about the two of them, and found this on Kelly’s Wikipedia page:

Wow.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:39:52am

re: #115 Kent Dorfman

Shortly after I left the market the other day with a hot apple pie, a homeless man shambled up to me and said, “Mister, I haven’t eaten in three days.”

Boy, I wish I had his will power.

Homeless guy said to me “I haven’t had a bite in 3 days!”

So I bit him.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:40:00am

re: #131 BeenHereAwhile

Elvis

Elvis made African-American music acceptable to white folks, who might never have heard some of those songs otherwise on the radio. In the 1950s, there was segregation of the airwaves, too.

Then the 1960 and 1970s integrated the airwaves, and by the time we reached the 21st century, the airwaves were divided up into genre stations that never deviate from the corporate playlist. Segregation —> splinter-ation

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:40:44am

re: #132 Belafon

I went to go look up some info about the two of them, and found this on Kelly’s Wikipedia page:

I saw that as well, and also she was a classmate of Obama’s at Harvard Law. The Judiciary Committee could grill her about whether she ever actually saw him there, and what his grades were./

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:41:52am

re: #137 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Elvis made African-American music acceptable to white folks, who might never have heard some of those songs otherwise on the radio. In the 1950s, there was segregation of the airwaves, too.

Then the 1960 and 1970s integrated the airwaves, and by the time we reached the 21st century, the airwaves were divided up into genre stations that never deviate from the corporate playlist. Segregation —> splinter-ation

The popular music charts were segregated, white music was classed as “Rock and Roll” and black music was classed as “Rhythm and Blues”

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:41:59am

re: #138 Big Beautiful Door

I saw that as well, and also she was a classmate of Obama’s at Harvard Law. The Judiciary Committee could grill her about whether she ever actually saw him there, and what his grades were./

And whether he is gay, and did drugs, too.
/

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:42:40am

re: #115 Kent Dorfman

Shortly after I left the market the other day with a hot apple pie, a homeless man shambled up to me and said, “Mister, I haven’t eaten in three days.”

So I told him he was a parasitical moocher and he should expect no sympathy or charity from me, it would only contribute to further social decline. And then gave him a lecture about socialist redistribution of wealth and trickle-down economics.

/

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Belafon  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:43:30am

re: #138 Big Beautiful Door

I saw that as well, and also she was a classmate of Obama’s at Harvard Law. The Judiciary Committee could grill her about whether she ever actually saw him there, and what his grades were./

And about how much he hung out with Alinsky.

If you google Srinivasan, you get this title from Politico, posted yesterday: Greens wary of Sri Srinivasan’s fossil fuel past.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:44:38am

re: #92 Dr. Matt

I think Rage Furby is experiencing the onset of tertiary neurosyphilis

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He’s trying to be funny.

Also, to get syph, you needed to have played around.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:45:09am

I do like the idea of Kelly and Srinivasan since it will place a lot of pressure on the Republicans to confirm two people they previously showed no problem with.

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Belafon  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:46:09am

re: #139 The Vicious Babushka

The popular music charts were segregated, white music was classed as “Rock and Roll” and black music was classed as “Rhythm and Blues”

Which, I will say, the public music station here in Dallas, KKXT, is trying to blur. It’s not half and half, for sure, but probably about one out of every six songs is a black artist. Some of those Charles has featured here, that have been on Tiny Music Desk, have been on there. Which makes sense since KKXT is part of the NPR system.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:46:48am

re: #143 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He’s trying to be funny.

Also, to get syph, you needed to have played around.

He’s so painfully not funny.

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lizardofid  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:46:56am

re: #131 BeenHereAwhile

Elvis

I’ve still got the first album I remember wearing the grooves out on. It’s the Mills Brothers, and I still remember all the words.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:46:58am

re: #137 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Elvis made African-American music acceptable to white folks, who might never have heard some of those songs otherwise on the radio. In the 1950s, there was segregation of the airwaves, too.

I find it funny that you are more likely to hear Elvis on a country station nowadays than on a rock station.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:47:40am

re: #144 HappyWarrior

I do like the idea of Kelly and Srinivasan since it will place a lot of pressure on the Republicans to confirm two people they previously showed no problem with.

Grassley in particular would have a real hard time explaining why he opposes confirmation of Kelly, since he helped quickly push her confirmation to the 8th Circuit through

On the Senate floor, Grassley said Kelly was committed to upholding the Constitution and has the unanimous rating from the American Bar Association of being a qualified judicial nominee. He cited 8th Circuit Senior Judge David Hansen, who said Kelly was “a forthright woman with high integrity.”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:50:17am

re: #149 Big Beautiful Door

Grassley in particular would have a real hard time explaining why he opposes confirmation of Kelly, since he helped quickly push her confirmation to the 8th Circuit through

Yeah I saw that too.

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sagehen  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:51:08am

re: #111 lawhawk

SNL wouldn’t go for it. Deadpool’s too funny for SNL to handle. Then again, it’d be the funniest thing done on the show in decades.

They’d have to broadcast the whole thing in 7-second delay, there’d be bleeps and buzzers throughout…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:51:24am

re: #148 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I find it funny that you are more likely to hear Elvis on a country station nowadays than on a rock station.

A lot of the early rock’n’rollers were from the South, with country music roots. It took some time for rock to become the predominantly urban form of music it is now.

Meanwhile, country-western gradually morphed into the Nashville Sound, with more rock and pop elements.

Elvis is oldies music now.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:52:04am

re: #142 Belafon

And about how much he hung out with Alinsky.

If you google Srinivasan, you get this title from Politico, posted yesterday: Greens wary of Sri Srinivasan’s fossil fuel past.

Reading that article, I think the Kochs might get a bit peeved at McConnell for blocking Srinivasan’s confirmation when they desperately need a fifth vote to block Obama’s carbon emission regulations.

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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:52:45am

Elvis brought Black music forms to White folks through the back door, a decade or so later young British kids were busy listening to Black rhythm and blues, pure blues and early Motown and speeding it up for the enjoyment of the mid to late 60s White kids all over.

Listen to early Who and other ‘mod’ bands and you can hear Motown on speed.

I think that period iced it and finally made White people just go out and listen to the real thing too…the original Black artists, etc.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:54:28am

re: #154 ObserverArt

Elvis brought Black music forms to White folks through the back door, a decade or so later young British kids were busy listening to Black rhythm and blues, pure blues and early Motown and speeding it up for the enjoyment of the mid to late 60s White kids all over.

Listen to early Who and other ‘mod’ bands and you can hear Motown on speed.

I think that period iced it and finally made White people just go out and listen to the real thing too…the original Black artists, etc.

I remember a lot of purists in the 70’s complaining about how the Blues Brothers were making millions playing black music while the original artists were languishing, but I think that movie really helped to spark a revival of blues and R&B in America, and with it a few careers.

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sagehen  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:55:04am

re: #139 The Vicious Babushka

The popular music charts were segregated, white music was classed as “Rock and Roll” and black music was classed as “Rhythm and Blues”

Not at first, it was “race music.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:55:30am

re: #154 ObserverArt

Listen to early Who and other ‘mod’ bands and you can hear Motown on speed.

I think that period iced it and finally made White people just go out and listen to the real thing too…the original Black artists, etc.

You just defined the Small Faces, and I must admit that I had never heard anything by Willie Dixon or Robert Johnson until I heard Led Zeppelin and the like covering them.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:55:48am

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Sinclair’s 9am-12pm Joshua Espinoza

Swing, jive, be-bop or blues - jazz manifests in many forms and French Lick Resort has more than 20 hours of live music on tap during our second Jazz Under the Dome event at West Baden Springs Hotel.

Sarah Stivers is a musician in her own right, a talented singer, and a friend and former co-worker of mine. She taught my daughter French in high school!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:56:05am

re: #156 sagehen

Not at first, it was “race music.”

I remember learning that when I took a class on the history of popular American music for my fine arts credits. The history of American music is pretty fascinating actually.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:56:32am

re: #149 Big Beautiful Door

Grassley in particular would have a real hard time explaining why he opposes confirmation of Kelly, since he helped quickly push her confirmation to the 8th Circuit through

Obama’s tricky like that, divisive. So unfair.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:56:50am

re: #156 sagehen

Not at first, it was “race music.”

I just remember from when I was a kid, the Beatles and Marvin Gaye could occupy #1 hit slot at the same time.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:57:48am

re: #158 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Attention jazz lovers within driving distance of French Lick, Indiana!!

Sarah Stivers is a musician in her own right, a talented singer, and a friend and former co-worker of mine. She taught my daughter French in high school!

Atrium 5pm-9pm Dave Clark Trio

So sad that two of the Dave Clark Five have died. :(
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Belafon  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:58:08am

re: #160 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Obama’s tricky like that, divisive. So unfair.

///

It’s that time machine. He knew he’d be able to appoint Kelly to the SCOTUS, so he skillfully got her unanimously approved.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:58:14am

I remember reading interviews with a lot of the British artists especially who said they were heavily influenced also by Harry Smith’s Anthology of American Folk so I listened to some of that and man it’s powerful stuff. It sounds very raw since the recordings are very old but I enjoyed it.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Feb 18, 2016 • 6:58:30am

re: #159 HappyWarrior

I remember learning that when I took a class on the history of popular American music for my fine arts credits. The history of American music is pretty fascinating actually.

It’s fascinating how Americans have blended so many different musical traditions from far and wide to create distinctly American styles of music: blues, jazz, rock’n’roll, R&B, bluegrass, to name a few.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:00:22am

re: #165 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It’s fascinating how Americans have blended so many different musical traditions from far and wide to create distinctly American styles of music: blues, jazz, rock’n’roll, R&B, bluegrass, to name a few.

it really is something else.

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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:15:12am

re: #157 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

You just defined the Small Faces, and I must admit that I had never heard anything by Willie Dixon or Robert Johnson until I heard Led Zeppelin and the like covering them.

Small Faces, Who, Kinks, all part of the mod period in England. Even Pink Floyd was a mod band early on.

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makeitstop  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:15:46am

You guys are forgetting Ike Turner - Ike fell under the ‘race music’ tag and had a legit claim to recording the first rock n roll song with ‘Rocket 88’ with Jackie Brentson.

Rocket 88 (Original Version) - Ike Turner/Jackie Brenston

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makeitstop  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:19:08am

Also, Philly’s Bill Haley did ‘Crazy Man Crazy,’ which was the first rock record to hit the Billboard charts. Haley dragged ‘race music’ into the mainstream.

Bill Haley - Crazy Man Crazy.wmv

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nines09  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:24:14am

Good day all. So many bands and musicians have spoke to me. Here’s one of the most underrated acts from back in the day from Great Britain. The Yardbirds. The Kinks. The Beatles and Stones get the ink. These guys killed.
Video

Eric Burdon had it. Cheating
Killer B side.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:25:57am

Allowing Obama to nominate a Supreme Court justice in his last year is like putting all American conservative patriots in FEMA death camp trailers.

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makeitstop  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:30:53am

re: #170 nines09

Good day all. So many bands and musicians have spoke to me. Here’s one of the most underrated acts from back in the day from Great Britain. The Yardbirds. The Kinks. The Beatles and Stones get the ink. These guys killed.
[Embedded content]

Killer B side.

We saw Eric Burdon last year. He looked like a tiny old man when he walked out on stage, but he still hit every single note. John Steel from the original Animals was in the band, too.

Edgar Winter was the opening act. During Eric’s set, they brought him out on sax and did a killer version of Ray Charles’ ‘I Believe (You’re Trying’ to Make A Fool of Me).’ That song alone was worth the ticket, but the whole show was great.

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Belafon  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:31:50am

re: #171 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Allowing Obama to nominate a Supreme Court justice in his last year is like putting all American conservative patriots in FEMA death camp trailers.

/

All part of Operation White Genocide. /

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TedStriker  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:32:08am

re: #155 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I remember a lot of purists in the 70’s complaining about how the Blues Brothers were making millions playing black music while the original artists were languishing, but I think that movie really helped to spark a revival of blues and R&B in America, and with it a few careers.

Yeah…IIRC, James Brown, Ray Charles, Aretha Franklin, and John Lee Hooker were all in fairly deep career lulls when they guest-starred in The Blues Brothers; their appearances in the movie not only helped kickstart their careers going into the 80s, but the rest of the soundtrack greatly benefited the original artists (such as Sam & Dave and Otis Redding) by exposing R&B and soul to a new audience.

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lawhawk  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:33:04am

What could possibly go wrong:

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Kent Dorfman  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:34:36am

Porn performers set to protest Thursday vote requiring condoms, eyewear on film sets

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:34:47am

re: #175 lawhawk

What could possibly go wrong:

[Embedded content]

So fucking stupid.

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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:34:56am

re: #170 nines09

Good day all. So many bands and musicians have spoke to me. Here’s one of the most underrated acts from back in the day from Great Britain. The Yardbirds. The Kinks. The Beatles and Stones get the ink. These guys killed.
[Embedded content]

Video

Eric Burdon had it. [Embedded content]

Killer B side.

No argument from me. Eric B and the Animals were one of the great early bands. And they touched music in many ways. Chas Chandler went on to be Jimi Hendrix’s manager.

Even Grand Funk was touched by Eric and the Animals…here is an Animals tune live…off GF’s second album.

GRAND FUNK RAILROAD - Inside Looking Out 1969

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TedStriker  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:35:55am

re: #178 ObserverArt

No argument from me. Eric B and the Animals were one of the great early bands. ANd they touched music in many ways. Chas Chandler went on to be Jimi Hendrix’s manager.

Even Grand Funk was touched by Eric and the Animals…here is an Animals tune live…off GF’s second album.

[Embedded content]

And, don’t forget about War.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:35:59am

You can tell that the people who propose guns in classrooms legislation have not been in a classroom for a very long time. Yeah a fairly cramped area. Great place to allow guns. Morons.

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mmmirele  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:37:53am

re: #61 Bubblehead II

New page post.

Cliven Bundy Indicted by Federal Authorities

Not just Cliven, but also Ammo(n) and Ryan Bundy, Ryan Payne and Pete Santilli. Sixteen counts. Kind of like Sixteen Tons landing straight on their heads. And this is just for the 2014 Nevada sedition.

Scribd Document

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:38:07am

re: #180 HappyWarrior

You can tell that the people who propose guns in classrooms legislation have not been in a classroom for a very long time. Yeah a fairly cramped area. Great place to allow guns. Morons.

They all have this HURR HURR GOOD GUY WITH A GUN!!!!!! fantasy.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:39:59am

re: #182 The Vicious Babushka

They all have this HURR HURR GOOD GUY WITH A GUN!!!!!! fantasy.

Yep. So typical.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:40:01am

re: #182 The Vicious Babushka

They all have this HURR HURR GOOD GUY WITH A GUN!!!!!! fantasy.

because gun free zones are like public shooting galleries for Muslim terrorists…

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TedStriker  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:40:16am

re: #181 mmmirele

Not just Cliven, but also Ammo(n) and Ryan Bundy, Ryan Payne and Pete Santilli. Sixteen counts. Kind of like Sixteen Tons landing straight on their heads. And this is just for the 2014 Nevada sedition.

[Embedded content]

Just goes to show, the wheels of justice may grind slow, but they do grind exceedingly fine.

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Targetpractice  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:40:45am

re: #182 The Vicious Babushka

They all have this HURR HURR GOOD GUY WITH A GUN!!!!!! fantasy.

None of them have been in class in forever, so they totally forget what stress does to a mind. Hell, all the stress yesterday drove me to putting a small dent in my bedroom door. Imagine the stress of finding out you failed the final exam and thus the class.

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nines09  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:40:55am

re: #172 makeitstop

He is a small guy. Like Ronnie Wood small. And at this time he is a tiny old man. He always had that sly attitude like Ronnie Wood. Walk out on stage and own it.

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KerFuFFler  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:42:16am

re: #181 mmmirele

Not just Cliven, but also Ammo(n) and Ryan Bundy, Ryan Payne and Pete Santilli. Sixteen counts. Kind of like Sixteen Tons landing straight on their heads. And this is just for the 2014 Nevada sedition.

[Embedded content]

Yeah, I’m really glad Santilli is indicted for the 2014 standoff——-it will weaken his contention that he was “just a journalist” at Malheur.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:42:37am

re: #186 Targetpractice

None of them have been in class in forever, so they totally forget what stress does to a mind. Hell, all the stress yesterday drove me to putting a small dent in my bedroom door. Imagine the stress of finding out you failed the final exam and thus the class.

You know not even that but how close chairs and all that are to one another. No way in hell am I sitting next to someone I know has a gun.

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lawhawk  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:43:03am

You knew this was coming. Hunger Games meets US GOP politics. Thanks Colbert. It wasn’t the mashup we wanted. It’s the mashup we needed.

theweek.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:43:35am

re: #186 Targetpractice

None of them have been in class in forever, so they totally forget what stress does to a mind. Hell, all the stress yesterday drove me to putting a small dent in my bedroom door. Imagine the stress of finding out you failed the final exam and thus the class.

And of course they all insist this video is HURR HURR TOTALLY BOGUS & STAGED BY TEH OBAMA GENOCIDAL GUNGRABBERS!!!!1!!

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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:43:51am

re: #187 nines09

He is a small guy. Like Ronnie Wood small. And at this time he is a tiny old man. He always had that sly attitude like Ronnie Wood. Walk out on stage and own it.

Eric was a Baaaad Maaaaan…he always had that “mothers protect your daughters from this guy” scowl when he sang. And he had the voice to go with it. I sometimes think they were a bit passed over because they were just too bad for popular attention when you had clean and cute bands like the Beatles.

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Bubblehead II  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:44:56am

re: #181 mmmirele

Not just Cliven, but also Ammo(n) and Ryan Bundy, Ryan Payne and Pete Santilli. Sixteen counts. Kind of like Sixteen Tons landing straight on their heads. And this is just for the 2014 Nevada sedition.

[Embedded content]

Yep. Still waiting for them to charge Eric Parker as well. BTW, would you do me a favor and re-post this over in the page so it doesn’t get buried? Thanks.

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makeitstop  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:45:11am

re: #187 nines09

He is a small guy. Like Ronnie Wood small. And at this time he is a tiny old man. He always had that sly attitude like Ronnie Wood. Walk out on stage and own it.

He played a venue on Long Island, one that the Animals had played back in the Invasion days. He told a story about how, in order to get the band past the screaming girls, a cop told him to grab onto his gun belt after the show and he’d lead Eric back stage.

He said about halfway to the dressing room, the cop stopped short, Eric tripped and smashed his mouth on the handle of the cop’s revolver. Knocked out his two front teeth.

What modern rock star has stories like that? Very few, I’d think.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:47:12am

re: #189 HappyWarrior

You know not even that but how close chairs and all that are to one another. No way in hell am I sitting next to someone I know has a gun.

I expect that we will see some cases of people refusing to participate in armed classroom instruction and see a big kerfuffle over it.

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makeitstop  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:47:40am

re: #192 ObserverArt

Eric was a Baaaad Maaaaan…he always had that “mothers protect your daughters from this guy” scowl when he sang. And he had the voice to go with it. I sometimes think they were a bit passed over because they were just too bad for popular attention when you had clean and cute bands like the Beatles.

Lemmy was quoted that it was odd that The Beatles were seen as the ‘cute’ band while The Stones were seen as the ‘bad boys’ - because the Stones were all art school students while the Beatles were from Liverpool and were the real tough guys between the two bands.

But yeah, The Animals were on another level of rough. Looked like they’d play you a mean set of blues, and then kick your ass afterwards for the fun of it.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:48:23am

re: #175 lawhawk

What could possibly go wrong:

[Embedded content]

Here is another perspective on this. As a HS coach- this would have an impact on influence of perspective student athletes who are being recruited by Texas. Especially those who may come from areas that have been impacted by gun violence/school shootings.

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lawhawk  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:48:38am

re: #191 The Vicious Babushka

Yet, if they attempted to stage a similar situation, they too would find out that the good guy with a gun is going to lose against someone who takes them by surprise early and often.

Police, especially SWAT/ESU, have to practice like crazy to deal with active shooter situations because you have to overcome all kinds of challenges (some of which are discussed in that video). Just having a gun doesn’t mean you can suddenly become Annie Oakley and fire away at the bad guy.

What if the bad guy with a gun is behind you and starts firing at all those students in front of them (not inconceivable in a lecture center). Who says that the shooter comes in through the front door? Many lecture centers have doors at the rear - not the front. Everyone’s backs are to the door, so a shooter has a built-in advantage. Not much good having a gun does in that situation.

On and on it goes, and yet the gun fetishists still think that having a gun would somehow improve your chances.

At the same time, having more guns at a scene may delay rescue response since law enforcement then has to figure out who was a shooter, who was a good guy, and clear/secure the area before EMS can enter. How many more people could die as a result of that?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:50:42am

re: #198 lawhawk

At the same time, having more guns at a scene may delay rescue response since law enforcement then has to figure out who was a shooter, who was a good guy, and clear/secure the area before EMS can enter. How many more people could die as a result of that?

All just collateral damage towards the Greater Good of upholding the Second Amendment.

/

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lawhawk  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:51:27am

One thing is clear - no one being polled has any clue about what ideas are or aren’t realistic. If you think Cruz’s ideas about tax policy are realistic, the sky must be green in your universe (it’d blow out deficits, shift tax burdens from the rich to everyone else, and force a slash/burn of the safety net to even approach budget neutrality). Same goes for Rubio.

Trump’s BS is so BS that even his supporters know it’s BS - they just don’t care.

It’s the BS they want.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:53:20am

And how many of these Good Guys with a gun would have been able to hit Charles Whitman in the tower?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:54:27am

re: #201 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

And how many of these Good Guys with a gun would have been able to hit Charles Whitman in the tower?

Exactly.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:55:17am

re: #201 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

And how many of these Good Guys with a gun would have been able to hit Charles Whitman in the tower?

Good Guys With Guns would be posted all over campus guarding all possible sniper vantage points.

/

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withak  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:56:32am

re: #203 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Good Guys With Guns would be posted all over campus guarding all possible sniper vantage points.

/

That sounds suspiciously like a Jobs Program.

SOCIALIAMSISM!!

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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:57:03am

So, did anyone actually watch Joke Scarborough and Mika do the Trump town hall last nigh? I stayed away from it. I was just wondering if Trump went through his same old song and dance with the daily outrage added and had Mika and Joke salivating over all that Great White Power by the Orange Man.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 7:58:20am

re: #204 withak

That sounds suspiciously like a Jobs Program.

It would be on a thoroughly volunteer basis…with donors supplying snacks

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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:00:53am

re: #201 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

And how many of these Good Guys with a gun would have been able to hit Charles Whitman in the tower?

Well, if say 1,500 patriotic student good guys with a gun could have whipped out their AKs and aimed at the top of the tower at the same time, they could have held off Whitman until the police got to the tower to take him down.

I’m sure some of them would have been in the ROTC program and would have had the basic military training to manage that.

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nines09  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:00:57am

re: #196 makeitstop

They had that just rough enough not too polished sound. And Eric just had that vibe, like one is not to be fucked with. The old hockey saying is “Little guys carry their sticks a bit higher.” The Beatles shook their hair, the Stones pranced, and the Animals stared you down. Eric carried his stick a bit higher. I saw Grand Funk back in 1970 at Mosport Speedway in Ontario Canada. Loudest band I’ve ever heard to this day.

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Joe Bacon  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:02:45am

re: #205 ObserverArt

So, did anyone actually watch Joke Scarborough and Mika do the Trump town hall last nigh? I stayed away from it. I was just wondering if Trump went through his same old song and dance with the daily outrage added and had Mika and Joke salivating over all that Great White Power by the Orange Man.

I put on my Apple TV and watched episodes of the classic Superman with George Reeves.

Just the thought of George Reeves Superman taking on Lex Luthor Trump…

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:05:45am

re: #115 Kent Dorfman

Shortly after I left the market the other day with a hot apple pie, a homeless man shambled up to me and said, “Mister, I haven’t eaten in three days.”

Boy, I wish I had his will power.

Speaking as someone who has been homeless I’m going to have to declare this ‘joke’ not funny.

Really not funny.

Neither are any of the others.

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KerFuFFler  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:06:11am

re: #198 lawhawk

What if the bad guy with a gun is behind you and starts firing at all those students in front of them (not inconceivable in a lecture center). Who says that the shooter comes in through the front door? Many lecture centers have doors at the rear - not the front. Everyone’s backs are to the door, so a shooter has a built-in advantage. Not much good having a gun does in that situation.

On and on it goes, and yet the gun fetishists still think that having a gun would somehow improve your chances.

It seems obvious that having guns in classrooms will not be very effective at preventing or limiting mass shootings. It also seems likely that unpremeditated attacks would occur if someone just gets mad in class while armed. Unfortunately, there would have to be several bloodbaths where crime scene analysis made it clear that additional guns added to the carnage before we could change peoples’ minds about how safe guns make us.

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makeitstop  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:07:05am

re: #208 nines09

They had that just rough enough not too polished sound. And Eric just had that vibe, like one is not to be fucked with. The old hockey saying is “Little guys carry their sticks a bit higher.” The Beatles shook their hair, the Stones pranced, and the Animals stared you down. Eric carried his stick a bit higher. I saw Grand Funk back in 1970 at Mosport Speedway in Ontario Canada. Loudest band I’ve ever heard to this day.

A rock critic - I forget which one - described GFR live as ‘the loudest AM radio in the world.’ I saw them at The Spectrum in Philly on the tour for the second album. I think my ears are still ringing.

Don Brewer and Mel Schacter of GFR came out of the band Terry Knight and The Pack, who had a regional hit with Van Morrison’s ‘Gloria.’ Knight moved behind the scenes and became GFR’s manager.

The critics hated them, but young stoners like me thought they were the bomb.

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:10:31am

re: #199 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

All just collateral damage towards the Greater Good of upholding the Second Amendment.

/

Human sacrifices that water the Tree of Liberty!!!!

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withak  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:11:31am

re: #212 makeitstop

A rock critic - I forget which one - described GFR live as ‘the loudest AM radio in the world.’ I saw them at The Spectrum in Philly on the tour for the second album. I think my ears are still ringing.

Don Brewer and Mel Schacter of GFR came out of the band Terry Knight and The Pack, who had a regional hit with Van Morrison’s ‘Gloria.’ Knight moved behind the scenes and became GFR’s manager.

The critics hated them, but young stoners like me thought they were the bomb.

Image: 1137136.jpg

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:13:07am

re: #198 lawhawk

Yet, if they attempted to stage a similar situation, they too would find out that the good guy with a gun is going to lose against someone who takes them by surprise early and often.

Police, especially SWAT/ESU, have to practice like crazy to deal with active shooter situations because you have to overcome all kinds of challenges (some of which are discussed in that video). Just having a gun doesn’t mean you can suddenly become Annie Oakley and fire away at the bad guy.

What if the bad guy with a gun is behind you and starts firing at all those students in front of them (not inconceivable in a lecture center). Who says that the shooter comes in through the front door? Many lecture centers have doors at the rear - not the front. Everyone’s backs are to the door, so a shooter has a built-in advantage. Not much good having a gun does in that situation.

On and on it goes, and yet the gun fetishists still think that having a gun would somehow improve your chances.

At the same time, having more guns at a scene may delay rescue response since law enforcement then has to figure out who was a shooter, who was a good guy, and clear/secure the area before EMS can enter. How many more people could die as a result of that?

Because a gun to them is really a talisman, it has magical properties that will keep them safe. Because it’s magical, you can’t apply real world rules to it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:14:38am

re: #215 Blind Frog Belly White

Because a gun to them is really a talisman, it has magical properties that will keep them safe. Because it’s magical, you can’t apply real world rules to it.

Just like the magic behind Creation Science

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lizardofid  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:16:00am

re: #208 nines09

They had that just rough enough not too polished sound. And Eric just had that vibe, like one is not to be fucked with. The old hockey saying is “Little guys carry their sticks a bit higher.” The Beatles shook their hair, the Stones pranced, and the Animals stared you down. Eric carried his stick a bit higher. I saw Grand Funk back in 1970 at Mosport Speedway in Ontario Canada. Loudest band I’ve ever heard to this day.

It was about 73 before we saw GF, but the volume was still up. : }

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:18:04am

re: #217 lizardofid

It was about 73 before we saw GF, but the volume was still up. : }

They were definitely the band they had in mind in the movie “Almost Famous”.

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:20:11am

re: #201 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

And how many of these Good Guys with a gun would have been able to hit Charles Whitman in the tower?

Quite a few “good guys” (civilians on the ground) did grab their rifles and return fire at Whitman, to no effect except adding to the chaos.

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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:20:24am

re: #208 nines09

They had that just rough enough not too polished sound. And Eric just had that vibe, like one is not to be fucked with. The old hockey saying is “Little guys carry their sticks a bit higher.” The Beatles shook their hair, the Stones pranced, and the Animals stared you down. Eric carried his stick a bit higher. I saw Grand Funk back in 1970 at Mosport Speedway in Ontario Canada. Loudest band I’ve ever heard to this day.

Oooo. Mosport. Being a race fan, I always wanted to get up their but never did.

I wanted to see Grand Funk back in the day, but for loudest band ratings I have to say mine was Black Sabath at the Akron (Oh) Rubber Bowl in the summer of ‘71. They had the stage at the 20 yard line and we were at the opposite 20. It was loud. But then we stood up and made our way to about the 50 yard line and I swear you could feel the air pressure off the speakers. I’ve never seen so many Hiwatt amps and cabinets for two guitar players (lead and bass). Yeah, it was loud.

Loudest ever indoor…Wishbone Ash at the Ohio Theater here in C’bus in ‘74. Gawd damn Orange amps turned to eleven in a theater with great acoustics can remove the fillings of your teeth. Climax Blues band was the opening act. Damn fine show. Took me a week to rid the ringing in my ears.

Thanks for the music memory discussions.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:21:43am

re: #216 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Just like the magic behind Creation Science

It’s no coincidence that it tends to be the same people. Magical guns, Creationism, Tax cuts as the silver bullet for economic problems, America being able to bully the rest of the world into loving us - none of these things make sense rationally.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:22:01am

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
Does not explain who pays for all the GOP’s “FREE WAR”

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makeitstop  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:23:19am

re: #220 ObserverArt

Oooo. Mosport. Being a race fan, I always wanted to get up their but never did.

I wanted to see Grand Funk back in the day, but for loudest band ratings I have to say mine was Black Sabath at the Akron (Oh) Rubber Bowl in the summer of ‘71. They had the stage at the 20 yard line and we were at the opposite 20. It was loud. But then we stood up and made our way to about the 50 yard line and I swear you could feel the air pressure off the speakers. I’ve never seen so many Hiwatt amps and cabinets for two guitar players (lead and bass). Yeah, it was loud.

Loudest ever indoor…Wishbone Ash at the Ohio Theater here in C’bus in ‘74. Gawd damn Orange amps turned to eleven in a theater with great acoustics can remove the fillings of your teeth. Climax Blues band was the opening act. Damn fine show. Took me a week to rid the ringing in my ears.

Thanks for the music memory discussions.

Loudest band? Motorhead, hands down. I saw them twice, and when Lemmy asked if we wanted them to turn it up no one said no.

And they really turned it up. One of the shows was at Roseland, and I’m surprised the plaster held to the walls. It was that loud.

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withak  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:24:53am

re: #222 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
Does not explain who pays for all the GOP’s “FREE WAR”

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Does he call himself comical because his points are laughable?

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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:24:55am

re: #212 makeitstop

A rock critic - I forget which one - described GFR live as ‘the loudest AM radio in the world.’ I saw them at The Spectrum in Philly on the tour for the second album. I think my ears are still ringing.

Don Brewer and Mel Schacter of GFR came out of the band Terry Knight and The Pack, who had a regional hit with Van Morrison’s ‘Gloria.’ Knight moved behind the scenes and became GFR’s manager.

The critics hated them, but young stoners like me thought they were the bomb.

My one cousin got a bit of the hem of Terry Night’s shirt at a show in my old hometown. She was over the moon with that bit of striped shirt.

Actually…Mark Farner was in Terry Night and the Pack too. Schacter was not.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:26:16am

re: #224 withak

Does he call himself comical because his points are laughable?

These are guys who laughed at fledglings who fell out of the nest when they were kids…

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lizardofid  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:26:27am

re: #218 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

They were definitely the band they had in mind in the movie “Almost Famous”.

Shirts were optional if memory serves, but I will admit it’s all a bit hazy. ; }

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makeitstop  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:27:02am

re: #225 ObserverArt

My one cousin got a bit of the hem of Terry Night’s shirt at a show in my old hometown. She was over the moon with that bit of stripped shirt.

Actually…Mark Farner was in Terry Night and the Pack too. Schacter was not.

Right, I stand corrected. Schacter was in Question Mark & The Mysterians, of ‘96 Tears’ fame.

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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:27:10am

re: #222 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
Does not explain who pays for all the GOP’s “FREE WAR”

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There are no comical conservatives. Disqualified.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:27:17am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:27:52am

re: #227 lizardofid

Shirts were optional if memory serves, but I will admit it’s all a bit hazy. ; }

Yes, my mental image of Mark Farner is shirtless…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:28:00am

re: #224 withak

Does he call himself comical because his points are laughable?

Probably thinks he’s one of those “funny” conservatives. Anyhow, Bernie’s policies actually have some record of working. I’ve never seen any country with a disproportional high defense budget that at the same time is constantly doing tax cuts and social spending cuts function properly.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:28:51am

I also can’t take anyone seriously who uses the avatar of a fictionalized version of someone who was an absolute monarchist, (Wallace).

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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:29:14am

re: #228 makeitstop

Right, I stand corrected. Schacter was in Question Mark & The Mysterians, of ‘96 Tears’ fame.

Now that is one I did not know.

“cry, cry, cry…96 tears…”

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withak  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:29:32am

re: #233 HappyWarrior

I also can’t take anyone seriously who uses the avatar of a fictionalized version of someone who was an absolute monarchist, (Wallace).

Apparently the only thing that guy got out of that movie was FREEEEEEEEDUMMMMMMMMM

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:31:54am

re: #232 HappyWarrior

Probably thinks he’s one of those “funny” conservatives. Anyhow, Bernie’s policies actually have some record of working. I’ve never seen any country with a disproportional high defense budget that at the same time is constantly doing tax cuts and social spending cuts function properly.

Well of course all the GOP tax plans involve shifting taxes to the poor and middle class in order to give tax breaks to the top 1%

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makeitstop  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:32:02am

re: #234 ObserverArt

Now that is one I did not know.

“cry, cry, cry…96 tears…”

Man, the bands that came out of the Detroit area - The Pack, Question Mark, Bob Seger’s Last Herd, MC5. Even the Amboy Dukes, despite having fledgling douchecanoe Nugent in the band. And later on, The Stooges . Damn.

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nines09  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:32:55am

1967 Musicraft Messenger Guitar

Mark Farner axe of choice with masking tape on the f holes.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:34:14am

re: #236 The Vicious Babushka

Well of course all the GOP tax plans involve shifting taxes to the poor and middle class in order to give tax breaks to the top 1%

Well yeah I know that but they insist Bernie’s plans don’t work. There’s actual evidence of them working in Norway. There are no examples of their system working. Some of the former Soviet satelites have adapted some of their economic policies but not even close to the defense budget proportions they want.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:35:33am

re: #235 withak

Apparently the only thing that guy got out of that movie was FREEEEEEEEDUMMMMMMMMM

It amuses the hell out of me when that movie is used to talk about freedom. I mean, the Scots deserved sovereignty from the English no doubt but let’s not act like William Wallace, the Bruce, and the others were fighting for real freedom as we know it.

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makeitstop  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:37:19am

re: #238 nines09

1967 Musicraft Messenger Guitar

Mark Farner axe of choice with masking tape on the f holes.

Yeah, his was that ugly green color.

Some company did a reissue of those guitars few years ago.

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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:37:21am

re: #237 makeitstop

Man, the bands that came out of the Detroit area - The Pack, Question Mark, Bob Seger’s Last Herd, MC5. Even the Amboy Dukes, despite having fledgling douchecanoe Nugent in the band. And later on, The Stooges . Damn.

Wasn’t one of the big venues The Grand Ballroom on Grand River Ave.? Maybe VB can confirm that.

Also…we can’t leave out Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels and later Detroit. And of course great guitarist from Ryder’s band Jimmy McCarty (Cactus).

Panic in Detroit…I went for an autograph…(RIP David!)

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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:38:15am

re: #238 nines09

1967 Musicraft Messenger Guitar

Mark Farner axe of choice with masking tape on the f holes.

A screecher feedback guitar right from the maker. Had to control it a little bit!

: )

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:38:50am

re: #242 ObserverArt

Wasn’t one of the big venues The Grand Ballroom on Grand River Ave.? Maybe VB can confirm that.

Also…we can’t leave out Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels and later Detroit. And of course great guitarist from Ryder’s band Jimmy McCarty (Cactus).

Panic in Detroit…I went for an autograph…(RIP David!)

Even Glen Frey of the Eagles is from there, he used to play with Bob Seeger.

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makeitstop  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:40:39am

re: #242 ObserverArt

Also…we can’t leave out Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels and later Detroit. And of course great guitarist from Ryder’s band Jimmy McCarty (Cactus).

How could I forget the Wheels? I need more coffee!

McCarty was years ahead of his time. His solos on those Wheels singles were insane for their time.

I played BB King’s in NYC a few years ago. My band played the lounge and Cactus was in the big room. I got to see them open with ‘Long Tall Sally’ before I had to go on. McCarty killed it. Still so damn good.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:40:44am

re: #242 ObserverArt

Wasn’t one of the big venues The Grand Ballroom on Grand River Ave.? Maybe VB can confirm that.

Also…we can’t leave out Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels and later Detroit. And of course great guitarist from Ryder’s band Jimmy McCarty (Cactus).

Panic in Detroit…I went for an autograph…(RIP David!)

Grande Ballroom.

Also: Grand Funk got its name from the Grand Trunk Railroad.

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Belafon  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:41:07am

re: #219 Shiplord Kirel

Quite a few “good guys” (civilians on the ground) did grab their rifles and return fire at Whitman, to no effect except adding to the chaos.

I believe those guys at least kept him from doing a lot more shooting. At the same time, there were a small number of them, it was obvious by the time they pulled out their guns where the bad guy was, and they didn’t walk around day to day thinking “if I have my gun, I can shoot a bad guy.” This was back when your gun wasn’t something you had a fetish over; it was something you went hunting with.

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makeitstop  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:42:03am

re: #243 ObserverArt

A screecher feedback guitar right from the maker. Had to control it a little bit!

: )

If you listen to the solo in ‘Inside Looking Out,’ when he hits the fuzz tone that guitar is howling all over the place. Part of Farner’s charm. :)

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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:45:11am

re: #245 makeitstop

How could I forget the Wheels? I need more coffee!

McCarty was years ahead of his time. His solos on those Wheels singles were insane for their time.

I played BB King’s in NYC a few years ago. My band played the lounge and Cactus was in the big room. I got to see them open with ‘Long Tall Sally’ before I had to go on. McCarty killed it. Still so damn good.

The first Cactus album still is in my rotation. Parchman Farm…oh yeah. I put those McCarty licks up against Page any day. And come on…Carmen Appice on those double bass drums.

Tell me this is not early speed metal.

Cactus - Parchman Farm

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makeitstop  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:49:07am

re: #249 ObserverArt

The first Cactus album still is in my rotation. Parchman Farm…oh yeah. I put those McCarty licks up against Page any day. And come on…Carmen Appice on those double bass drums.

Tell me this is not early speed metal.

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When I saw them, Carmine wasn’t there - his sub was my friend Bobby Rondinelli (Blackmore’s Rainbow). No Bogert, either, and their singer was an NYC mainstay named Jimmy Kunes. But still. McCarty. Worth seeing just for him.

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electrotek  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:51:06am

re: #76 Joe Bacon

Yes, I first encountered Frank when I was 10. My friend played all four sides of FREAK OUT. I had never heard anything like that before. Mom and Dad wouldn’t allow “jungle music” to be played in our house. It was always Mario Lanza, Tennessee Ernie Ford, Broadway or movie soundtracks on our record player.

So I bought a copy of Freak Out with my paper route money and I hid it in my newspaper bag. Snuck it upstairs to my bedroom and hid it in the old chimney in my room. I played it when Mom and Dad were out. There were several “close calls” when I saw the car pulling up and I had to pull it out of the record player. But when I heard it I felt like Frank was speaking to me that it was OK to flip the bird to the system…

If your parents only knew what to expect years later when jungle came to fruition 2 decades ago from the inner-city suburbs of the UK:

Ganja Kru - Super Sharp Shooter [Original Video]

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electrotek  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:53:25am

re: #81 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

“Jungle music” — haven’t heard that term in a long, long time.

shmoop.com

Now it’s used to refer to a kind of electronic music with a heavy beat.

Really? Guess you don’t listen to electronic music at all. Jungle is a sub-genre of electronic music in which it came from the UK in the early 90’s by using a sped-up ‘Amen break’ to 150-160BPM.

Case in point:

LTJ Bukem - Atlantis

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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:53:33am

re: #246 The Vicious Babushka

Grande Ballroom.

Also: Grand Funk got its name from the Grand Trunk Railroad.

Oops. Forgot the ‘e’. Thanks.

It is long gone like so many of those fantastic old Detroit buildings and homes. My first time in the city was in ‘73 with Detroit (Cass Tech), and a Grosse Pointe art school classmates. They gave me the full tour. I remember them showing me the big area of the city where the Renaissance Center was going to be built. The old Ford home was still there.

Then in ‘93 I was up there for an IndyCar race on Belle Isle and we drove up Grand Blvd and I had a massive sad. So many of those great old homes and apartment buildings were just left to rot and fall down. Sad.

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The alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:53:54am

re: #242 ObserverArt

Then there’s these guys:

en.wikipedia.org

There’s a pretty cool doc. about them.

amazon.com

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Franklin  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:54:22am

Save all your Internets submissions for tomorrow, it’s been won today already.

It’s a huge gif so can’t embed, it’s fairly work safe.

imgur.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:57:09am

re: #253 ObserverArt

Oops. Forgot the ‘e’. Thanks.

It is long gone like so many of those fantastic old Detroit buildings and homes. My first time in the city was in ‘73 with Detroit (Cass Tech), and a Grosse Pointe art school classmates. They gave me the full tour. I remember them showing me the big area of the city where the Renaissance Center was going to be built. The old Ford home was still there.

Then in ‘93 I was up there for an IndyCar race on Belle Isle and we drove up Grand Blvd and I had a massive sad. So many of those great old homes and apartment buildings were just left to rot and fall down. Sad.

ooHboz910rj+INSfiCUd9KdGu30PbDAryaniuNy8NWVbd9YFoGvU8rfnKcBTDjDk

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electrotek  Feb 18, 2016 • 8:57:54am

re: #237 makeitstop

Man, the bands that came out of the Detroit area - The Pack, Question Mark, Bob Seger’s Last Herd, MC5. Even the Amboy Dukes, despite having fledgling douchecanoe Nugent in the band. And later on, The Stooges . Damn.

Don’t forget that Detroit is also the birthplace of techno thanks to Kraftwerk inspiring black people in the inner-city suburbs to think of the future. Does Cybotron and Inner City ring a bell to anyone here?

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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:00:08am

re: #254 The alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin

Then there’s these guys:

en.wikipedia.org

There’s a pretty cool doc. about them.

amazon.com

Wow. Don’t think I ever heard of them. Thanks.

And you remind us of another Detroiter…Alice Cooper. Damn…so much great rock’n’roll, soul and rhythm and blues out of one city. Most definitely one of the great cities of America. Such a bummer what all happened to it. I still love it though.

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Franklin  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:03:42am

*Boom*

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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:04:10am

re: #256 The Vicious Babushka

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:05:11am

re: #259 Franklin

*Boom*

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Oh snap, it’s on now.

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withak  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:07:50am

re: #261 HappyWarrior

Oh snap, it’s on now.

“The Pope isn’t Christian!” from Evangelicals in 3… 2… 1…

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makeitstop  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:08:37am

re: #255 Franklin

Save all your Internets submissions for tomorrow, it’s been won today already.

It’s a huge gif so can’t embed, it’s fairly work safe.

imgur.com

Reminds me of this…

OK Go - This Too Shall Pass - Rube Goldberg Machine - Official Video

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:09:30am

re: #262 withak

“The Pope isn’t Christian!” from Evangelicals in 3… 2… 1…

SMOTI: HURR HURR TEH POAP IS A COMMIE!!!!!1!!!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:09:39am

re: #262 withak

“The Pope isn’t Christian!” from Evangelicals in 3… 2… 1…

Yeah if him oping in inequality and climate change didn’t do it, vocally calling out Trump’s immigration policy.

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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:09:42am

re: #259 Franklin

*Boom*

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He’s not a great Pope…this I can tell you!

/

Later all…gotta get busy.

Thankfully, with news this morning it seems most of the scam I got involved in is being corrected money wise. But I am still out a few dollars. Not as ruinous as it was first looking. Phew.

Still gotta find more work though.

Anyone need assistance/support from a halfway decent graphic artist/illustrator/photo manipulator? No credit cards though!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:10:44am

re: #266 ObserverArt

He’s not a great Pope…this I can tell you!

/

Later all…gotta get busy.

Thankfully, with news this morning it seems most of the scam I got involved in is being corrected money wise. But I am still out a few dollars. Not as ruinous as it was first looking. Phew.

Still gotta find more work though.

Anyone need assistance/support from a halfway decent graphic artist/illustrator/photo manipulator? No credit cards though!

Took him until his 70’s to be Pope, I’ll be President before then. Total loser. Last Pope, great guy. He knew how huge I am. //

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Skip Intro  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:13:28am

Trump will only appoint great Popes, really classy ones.

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freetoken  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:13:46am

Lots of polls out this morning. Nationally Trump still strong in the CBS poll (yesterday’s WSJ poll being a real outlier compared to every other poll). SC shows Trump super strong.

Nationally - Bernie does better one to one against any Republican. In this he does better than Hillary, who loses to the Repubs other than Trump.

I think these polls are showing us that the Clinton baggage is real. Sanders doesn’t have the Clinton baggage, and no matter how the right in this country want to tar the word “socialist”, I think the average Democratic voter doesn’t really care about “socialist” or not, and I suspect quite a few of self identified “independents” look at the term without any great emotion.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:14:46am

As President, Trump will ban all Popes from entering the country.

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lawhawk  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:15:22am

re: #259 Franklin

Even Trump knows he’s not building a 2,000 mile wall:

“I’m taking price per square foot and price per square, you know, per mile, and it’s a very simple calculation,” Trump said, noting that he would need to erect about 1,000 miles of border wall along the 2,000-mile long border because of natural barriers along certain parts.

Yeah, barriers like deserts, the Rio Grande, and mountains. And most of the fence that Trump supposedly wants is already built, or has been determined to not be needed due to the terrain and natural barriers.

His supporters? Not so much. They think that’ll happen.

The problem is that his supporters think that this fence (652 miles authorized/required by Congress) isn’t enough - it must extend for the full distance, or be built with gun turrets, or other such nonsense.

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:16:34am

I was just checking out the biography of Texas Tower sniper Charles Whitman and ran across this:

Besides being a brutish authoritarian, Whitman’s father, Charles Sr. was

“a firearms collector and enthusiast, who taught each of his sons from an early age how to shoot, clean, and maintain weapons. He regularly took them on hunting trips, and Charles became an avid hunter and accomplished marksman. His father said of him: “Charlie could plug the eye out of a squirrel by the time he was sixteen.”

Nut doesn’t fall far from the tree.

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Franklin  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:17:41am

re: #271 lawhawk

…it must extend for the full distance, or be built with gun turrets, or other such nonsense.

And made of gold. Don’t forget the gold. Classy gold too,

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:17:56am

re: #271 lawhawk

Even Trump knows he’s not building a 2,000 mile wall:

Yeah, barriers like deserts, the Rio Grande, and mountains. And most of the fence that Trump supposedly wants is already built, or has been determined to not be needed due to the terrain and natural barriers.

His supporters? Not so much. They think that’ll happen.

The problem is that his supporters think that this fence (652 miles authorized/required by Congress) isn’t enough - it must extend for the full distance, or be built with gun turrets, or other such nonsense.

Who’s going to build it? Whether it’s US or Mexican labor, it’s a certainty they will build in tunnels and escape hatches.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:18:08am

re: #271 lawhawk

Trump likely played too much of this archive.org in the 80s.

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freetoken  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:18:16am

In the Quinnipiac poll, Bernie swings about 12 points compared to Hillary, in matchups against the usual Republicans (sans Trump):

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Kent Dorfman  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:18:51am

Superman could have become a doctor, using his x-ray vision to detect life threatening tumors. But no, we really needed another journalist.

I’m now on year 3 of the ‘7 day ab challenge’.

I think abs are for guys that don’t have the confidence to wear a nice T-shirt to the pool.

I read in the 1930’s teething babies were given cocaine.
Ridiculous! If they had a tooth ache they probably didn’t even want to party.

Pharmacy employee, you’re too unhappy for someone who is in control of all the drugs.

Got so high last night we searched for my friend for half an hour while he helped us look.

Calm down shouty museum man. I think it’s pretty obvious that I know how to ride a dinosaur skeleton.

Instagram would have been a good name for a weed delivery service.

I’m looking for a girlfriend that likes me for my money, but is really bad at math.

livin la vida broka

I got mood poisoning.
Must have been something I hate.

Sure I could kill you with kindness, but let’s see what else is lying around first.

Most household injuries are caused by saying “whatever” during an argument.

If a Donkey and Zebra ever mate they’d have to call the offspring a Zonkey because Debra is already taken.

ME: I cant make it in today
BOSS: again? why
M: my car died
B: that’s the same excuse you used yesterday
M: yeah but today’s the funeral

How do you say “No, I’m full” in Grandmother?

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withak  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:19:09am

re: #271 lawhawk

Even Trump knows he’s not building a 2,000 mile wall:

Yeah, barriers like deserts, the Rio Grande, and mountains. And most of the fence that Trump supposedly wants is already built, or has been determined to not be needed due to the terrain and natural barriers.

His supporters? Not so much. They think that’ll happen.

The problem is that his supporters think that this fence (652 miles authorized/required by Congress) isn’t enough - it must extend for the full distance, or be built with gun turrets, or other such nonsense.

And even if it’s complete, guess what, Donald? Walls need patrolling. That costs money! Oh, and even if you patrol the surface, if your Yuge Wall Plan doesn’t include closing the border tunnels that already exist and preventing new ones from being constructed, it’s fucking useless.

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lawhawk  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:22:26am

I’m waiting to see if this is official or someone’s idea of a joke. If it’s legit, then holy crap. If it isn’t, then well played.

Update:
Confirmed - it’s legit.

donaldjtrump.com

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Belafon  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:23:22am

re: #276 freetoken

In the Quinnipiac poll, Bernie swings about 12 points compared to Hillary, in matchups against the usual Republicans (sans Trump):

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Remember this: gallup.com

If McCain vs. Obama, 28% of Clinton Backers Go for McCain

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TedStriker  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:25:46am

re: #279 lawhawk

I’m waiting to see if this is official or someone’s idea of a joke. If it’s legit, then holy crap. If it isn’t, then well played.

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That’s gotta be a Poe, because, if it isn’t, holy shit…

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Dr. Matt  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:26:24am

re: #279 lawhawk

“No leader, especially a religious leader, should have the right to question another man’s religion or faith.”

WOW. In other words, Trump doesn’t believe leaders should have the Right of free speech?

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:26:26am

re: #280 Belafon

Remember this: gallup.com

Yep. We are still a long way off. National head to head just doesn’t mean anything. Just like we can’t elect “Generic Republican” or “Generic Democrat”

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lawhawk  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:26:35am

re: #274 The Vicious Babushka

Maintenance/patrol costs aren’t included. Figures.

And how much will it cost to obtain the land on the US side to access and maintain the fence - since a lot of that land is privately owned. Yeah, that’s not factored in either.

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Skip Intro  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:27:04am

re: #279 lawhawk

So I guess on Day 2 of the Trump presidency we will be declaring war on the Vatican for being unfair to tRump.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:27:47am

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

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freetoken  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:27:55am

This will be flogged to death in certain circles:

Former US marine attacked at McDonald’s. Was it racially motivated?

A former US Marine who was assaulted at a McDonald’s in downtown Washington, D.C., last Friday says the attack was racially motivated, but questions persist about motivations for the assault, local police said this week.

Christopher Marquez, who served in Iraq and received a Bronze Star for valor and now attends American University, told The Washington Post that the attack, which he said was unprovoked, occurred after several black teenagers and young men asked him whether “black lives matter” and then called him racist.

[…]

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:28:24am

re: #282 Dr. Matt

WOW. In other words, Trump doesn’t believe leaders should have the Right of free speech?

Nobody should have the right to question The Trump

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lawhawk  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:28:55am

Trump’s making friends and influencing people starts Day 1 - by making enemies of the Vatican.

Great job there Donnie. Didn’t know the US had an enemy in the Pope. What would Reagan say/do? /half

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:29:01am

re: #284 lawhawk

Maintenance/patrol costs aren’t included. Figures.

And how much will it cost to obtain the land on the US side to access and maintain the fence - since a lot of that land is privately owned. Yeah, that’s not factored in either.

WE WILL USE TEH EMINEM DOMAINS!!!11!!!

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Franklin  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:30:26am

re: #290 The Vicious Babushka

WE WILL USE TEH ** EMINEM ** DOMAINS!!!11!!!

Nicely tied back into the Detroit music conversation :)

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lawhawk  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:31:58am

re: #290 The Vicious Babushka

Well played.

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lawhawk  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:32:57am

re: #286 The Vicious Babushka

You mean like all the entrances/exits allowing people to go in/out of the Vatican? Yeah, he seems to miss that BS too.

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:33:41am

re: #262 withak

“The Pope isn’t Christian!” from Evangelicals in 3… 2… 1…

Right on cue, major derpstorm at Free Republic Pope Francis Suggests Donald Trump Is ‘Not Christian’ (one of 3 strings on this story):

“The Pope isn’t for sure. Pope is in no position to talk.”

“Agreed. But then neither is this commie imposter of a Pope”

“That’s OK. Obama isn’t either.”

“Many Catholics are rejecting the legitimacy of this pope.
More and more I believe someone got to Benedict over something.”

“This pope loves Islam and communism. Much like our President.”

“Who the f is this sewer-grubbing communist to judge?
Has he even ever read the Word of God?
For this megalomanical grifter to be ruling Christians in or out defies comprehension, not to mention human decency.”

There you have it : Communism, conspiracy, the Muslim card, and, of course, Obama; ie the conservative worldview in a nutcase, er, shell.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:34:07am

What in the utter pluperfect fuck is Baby Whiplash dribbling on about?

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:34:21am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:34:41am

re: #286 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

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Doesn’t he live like the most austere life a Pope has in generations? I don’t think it’s hypocritical at all of him.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:35:06am

re: #286 The Vicious Babushka

STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>

Mr. Pope, open this gate. Mr. Pope, tear down this wall!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:35:36am

Mr. Trump, build up this wall.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:36:37am

re: #295 The Vicious Babushka

What in the utter pluperfect fuck is Baby Whiplash dribbling on about?

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Ben’s one to talk about fascism considering who his actual friends are

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:37:09am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:38:31am

re: #300 HappyWarrior

Ben’s one to talk about fascism considering who his actual friends are

Projecting like an IMAX, as is his wont.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:39:17am

And now am hate radio and the GOP clown show have a new target to hate….

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:40:41am

re: #295 The Vicious Babushka

What in the utter pluperfect fuck is Baby Whiplash dribbling on about?

Liberal Fascism. It was all the rage about 10 years ago. Remember, National Socialism?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:41:05am

re: #303 Dr. Matt

And now am hate radio and the GOP clown show have a new target to hate….

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Maybe they’ll make the Latino vote as reliably Democratic as they have with African—Americans. They’re already on their way to doing that.

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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:43:25am

re: #279 lawhawk

I’m waiting to see if this is official or someone’s idea of a joke. If it’s legit, then holy crap. If it isn’t, then well played.

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Update:
Confirmed - it’s legit.

donaldjtrump.com

What a guy. He can’t let anything go. Well, I doubt this will nick him, but damn it should. I do hope many religious leaders all over the world take this seemingly 13 year old arrogant ass to task for this.

How sick of his shit do you have to be to tell him to fuck off anyway? Come on America.

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:43:27am

re: #295 The Vicious Babushka

What in the utter pluperfect fuck is Baby Whiplash dribbling on about?

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Reminds me of Glenn Beck’s utterly deranged 2009 rant about commie/fascist architecture in Rockefeller Center, including a suggestion that one statue represents Mussolini’s chariot drawing Obama into power (I am not making that up).

Connecting New Deal era architecture to the Big Conspiracy is actually a minor theme in John Birch propaganda.

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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:44:49am

re: #292 lawhawk

Well played.

VB’s on it!

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:46:48am
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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:47:14am

re: #295 The Vicious Babushka

What in the utter pluperfect fuck is Baby Whiplash dribbling on about?

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Political art…maybe he is pissed at Shepard Fairey’s new Bernie logo. State art don’tcha know. Death to freedom by illustration…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:47:38am

re: #307 Shiplord Kirel

Reminds me of Glenn Beck’s utterly deranged 2009 rant about commie/fascist architecture in Rockefeller Center, including a suggestion that one statue represents Mussolini’s chariot drawing Obama into power (I am not making that up).

Connecting New Deal era architecture to the Big Conspiracy is actually a minor theme in John Birch propaganda.

LaPage I remember whining about murals that showed the positive role of labor unions in the Maine state capitol building.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:48:12am

Of course the funniest thing with tehse weird complaints is they have some weird fan-fic art for their own candidates not to mention their preachers who constantly insist that so and so is divinely chosen. Yeah but it’s Obama who is the cult of personality not Ted Cruz whose father thinks he’s God’s choice to save the coutnry.

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MsJ  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:48:48am

re: #230 FormerDirtDart

Cape Breton is one of the most beautiful places on the planet. That’s fascinating.

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jaunte  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:48:49am

re: #309 The Vicious Babushka

“If and when the Vatican is attacked by ISIS, which as everyone knows is ISIS’s ultimate trophy, I can promise you that the Pope would have only wished and prayed that Donald Trump would have been President because this would not have happened.”

Trump trying to prove he’s a Christian by wishing for doom to befall his critics.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:49:12am

re: #310 ObserverArt

Political art…maybe he is pissed at Shepard Fairey’s new Bernie logo. State art don’tcha know. Death to freedom by illustration…

With that Fairey T-shirt, Bernie totes has the best political swag of all the candidates.

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freetoken  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:49:43am

re: #309 The Vicious Babushka

Donald Trump just flung this insane rant at Pope Francis — and maybe just lost he presidency

Well, that’s a bit click-baity.

I’m pretty sure that Trump supporters already are anti-papists.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:50:01am

Isn’t there one on Cruz’s website of him on a horse with a gun with a constitution in the other hand?

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:50:49am

re: #316 freetoken

Well, that’s a bit click-baity.

I’m pretty sure that Trump supporters already are anti-papists.

I’ve been seeing some Twitter accounts “Catholic4Trump” etc. but I don’t know if they are just bots or there is some actual person who is a practicing Catholic behind them.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:51:25am

re: #313 WhatEVs

Cape Breton is one of the most beautiful places on the planet. That’s fascinating.

How’s the housing situ? I see I can get my abortion, but what about the rent?

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Belafon  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:51:29am

re: #301 The Vicious Babushka

This will help with the Latino outreach for sure.

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Lidane  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:51:42am

re: #259 Franklin

Related:

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:51:57am

Meanwhile, while Donald Trump was sucking all the oxygen==>

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lawhawk  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:52:22am

Pope Francis, when asked about the Zika crisis, suggests that contraception is the lesser of evils:

Pope Francis has suggested that women threatened with the Zika virus could use artificial contraception, saying there’s a clear moral difference between aborting a fetus and preventing a pregnancy.

Francis was asked Wednesday en route home from Mexico if abortion or birth control could be considered a “lesser evil,” when confronting the Zika crisis in Brazil, where some babies have been born with abnormally small heads to Zika-infected mothers.

(snip)

But Francis excluded abortion absolutely from the debate.

“Abortion isn’t a lesser evil, it’s a crime,” he told reporters. “Taking one life to save another, that’s what the Mafia does. It’s a crime. It’s an absolute evil.”

Francis, however, drew a parallel to the decision taken by Pope Paul VI in the 1960s to approve giving nuns in Belgian Congo artificial contraception to prevent pregnancies because they were being systematically raped.

Baby steps, which is still one step forward and two back, as the Vatican continues its longstanding practice of shielding priests from scrutiny and criminal prosecutions over abuse claims.

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withak  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:52:33am

I doubt many of the Catholics I know would support Trump in the first place, but those of them that would normally vote Republican might stay home rather than vote for him in the general.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:53:09am

re: #322 The Vicious Babushka

Meanwhile, while Donald Trump was sucking all the oxygen==>

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Whoa.

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CuriousLurker  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:53:11am

re: #309 The Vicious Babushka

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*SMH* Raw Story, what he said is hardly an “insane rant” (insane, yes; rant, no) You’re right though, VB, he could do/say just about anything and they’d still love him. It’ll be interesting to see if this causes a rift between Catholics and evangelicals though.

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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:53:41am

Hey Freetoken…is this Trump trying ever harder to make a mockery of it all? Damn, this has got to be right up there with wanting to not get taken seriously, blowing it all up and then walking away.

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lawhawk  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:54:25am
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CuriousLurker  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:54:33am

re: #321 Lidane

Related:

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Ah, now we have a rant. //

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freetoken  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:54:55am

re: #327 ObserverArt

I have no idea. Some of this is performance art, I believe.

But art in service to … what?

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Stanley Sea  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:55:06am
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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:56:54am

Well, I just might have to watch Chris Matthews again tonight. He is as Catholic as it gets. This will drive him completely insane I should think.

Back to lurking…

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Amory Blaine  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:59:21am

The Vatican is the ultimate trophy of ISIS? Pants pissers over here in the US are confused now.

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 18, 2016 • 9:59:49am

re: #311 HappyWarrior

LaPage I remember whining about murals that showed the positive role of labor unions in the Maine state capitol building.

In Lubbock, where Bircherism is mainstream, the local JBSers routinely squawk about the WPA murals preserved in the Lubbock High School building. The school, an architectural landmark, was actually built before WPA, in 1931, but the murals were added a few years later.

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freetoken  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:00:02am

So far, Trump has been playing by the text book used in the Heel 101 class he took from Vincent K. McMahon.

Trump is expert at playing into peoples’ stereotypes, and knowing how to work a crowd by reading their reactions. Even when Trump is getting boos he is taking the temperature of the crowd.

Trump has carefully out Becked Beck, in knowing how to play to the tea partying know nothings. Beck is angry because he’s losing his marks to Trump.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:00:33am

Trump is alienating yet another voting bloc: The Catholics. So, he’s basically left with White Supremacists, Joe Scarborough, and Sarah Palin.

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Jenner7  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:00:47am

Will this finally end Trump??

I doubt it.

Way to go Pope Francis!

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Jenner7  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:01:40am

What the hell??

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freetoken  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:02:26am

re: #338 Jenner7

Looks fake.

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lawhawk  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:02:52am
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Belafon  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:02:58am

re: #338 Jenner7

What the hell??

(I can’t see the picture at work, but…) He’s just enthusiastic.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:05:12am
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MsJ  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:06:49am

re: #259 Franklin

*Boom*

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Might be nice if the Pope said carpet bombing the shit out of other human beings isn’t Christian. But what do I know?

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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:07:22am

re: #342 Stanley Sea

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The right’s lack of self awareness is pathological.

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nines09  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:07:31am

To Trump supporters the pope is just one more foreigner butting his nose into our business and making America look bad by berating it’s saviour and lord Trump. I’m no fan of Roman Catholic anything, and I’m surely no fan of King Pimp. But Donald cannot take one word of criticism. Piss on the Pope, wave bye bye to a few million votes.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:08:15am
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lawhawk  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:08:22am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:08:22am

re: #321 Lidane

Related:

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This is an official statement from the frontrunner of one of the two major parties for the Presidency of the United States? It reads like a bush league mobster - “Nice Vatican you got here. Be a shame if something was to happen to it.”

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Franklin  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:09:03am

Unrelated to anything: I watched Selma for the first time last night. Wow. Just wow. I just wanted to hug @repjohnlewis when it was over.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:09:28am

re: #342 Stanley Sea

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Excuse me?

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Belafon  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:09:36am

re: #342 Stanley Sea

From the article:

And Jerry Falwell Jr., the president of Liberty University and a supporter of Mr. Trump, said that the pope had crossed a line.

“Jesus never intended to give instructions to political leaders on how to run a country,” Mr. Falwell told CNN

I’m sorry, there have been a number of passages telling countries what to do. First, God created the laws for Israel. Second, Jesus specifically talks about how countries will be judged at the end times, and its completely about how the countries take care of the poor and the sick.

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nines09  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:09:43am

re: #347 lawhawk

Crawling out of her coffin to weigh in again…

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Belafon  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:10:36am

re: #343 WhatEVs

Might be nice if the Pope said carpet bombing the shit out of other human beings isn’t Christian. But what do I know?

The pope will have to be in Syria for that one.

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Franklin  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:10:56am

re: #350 Blind Frog Belly White

Excuse me?

He never *intended* to, it just happened, you know, by accident.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:11:08am

Ted Cruz being critical of the President’s planned trip to Cuba. Ted. Cruz. You can’t make this shit up.

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freetoken  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:11:53am

Donald Trump has succeeded in taking American politics back to 1960, when being “Catholic” was a political hot potato.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:12:40am

re: #345 nines09

Yet, when we as foreigners butt our nose into everyone else’s business, it’s “spreading democracy”.

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Belafon  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:13:46am

re: #357 GlutenFreeJesus

Yet, when we as foreigners butt our nose into everyone else’s business, it’s “spreading democracy”.

Maybe the pope will allow contraception in this case as well.

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lawhawk  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:14:01am

Il Duce and Il Douche similarities continue apace:

Trump’s posture continues to mirror that of Il Duce.

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ipsos  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:16:47am

So here’s what I think I’ve decided I like about this whole Trump experience:

Assuming he does eventually find that point-too-far, and I still have hope that he will, he’ll have done us all a favor by identifying, once and for all, just how far a madman candidate can go in exploiting the public’s anger and mining the lowest possible depths to get votes.

And assuming Trump finally gets knocked out of the 2016 madness, every Republican come 2020 will assume that the way to win is to hit that exact depth level of stupidity and anger.

But none of them will come with the celebrity or public-manipulation skill that Trump seems to possess. So they’ll just be angry stupid people going after a dwindling share of aging white angry-stupid votes.

Right?

(Please clap.)

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Belafon  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:18:32am

re: #360 ipsos

Or, as we saw with 2012, Trump will just be the baseline for 2020.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:19:20am

re: #361 Belafon

Or, as we saw with 2012, Trump will just be the baseline for 2020.

“You must be at least this crazy to run for President.”

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Stanley Sea  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:19:24am

re: #350 Blind Frog Belly White

Excuse me?

I’m terribly lacking in knowledge about Jesus & his teachings (according to the gospels, natch) but can ya’ll give me some of the examples related to this face palm?

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Belafon  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:21:44am

re: #363 Stanley Sea

biblegateway.com .

31 “Now when the Human One[a] comes in his majesty and all his angels are with him, he will sit on his majestic throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered in front of him. He will separate them from each other, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right side. But the goats he will put on his left.

34 “Then the king will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who will receive good things from my Father. Inherit the kingdom that was prepared for you before the world began. 35 I was hungry and you gave me food to eat. I was thirsty and you gave me a drink. I was a stranger and you welcomed me. 36 I was naked and you gave me clothes to wear. I was sick and you took care of me. I was in prison and you visited me.’

37 “Then those who are righteous will reply to him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you a drink? 38 When did we see you as a stranger and welcome you, or naked and give you clothes to wear? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’

40 “Then the king will reply to them, ‘I assure you that when you have done it for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you have done it for me.’

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Get away from me, you who will receive terrible things. Go into the unending fire that has been prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 I was hungry and you didn’t give me food to eat. I was thirsty and you didn’t give me anything to drink. 43 I was a stranger and you didn’t welcome me. I was naked and you didn’t give me clothes to wear. I was sick and in prison, and you didn’t visit me.’

44 “Then they will reply, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison and didn’t do anything to help you?’ 45 Then he will answer, ‘I assure you that when you haven’t done it for one of the least of these, you haven’t done it for me.’ 46 And they will go away into eternal punishment. But the righteous ones will go into eternal life.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:23:22am

re: #363 Stanley Sea

I’m terribly lacking in knowledge about Jesus & his teachings (according to the gospels, natch) but can ya’ll give me some of the examples related to this face palm?

The mere idea of a FALWELL saying that… It’s like something from The Onion.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:23:23am

re: #342 Stanley Sea

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Oh the irony.

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nines09  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:24:50am

re: #364 Belafon

That is not in the Ayn Rand version. That’s in the “sucker” version that says man is his brother’s keeper and all that other commie propaganda.

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Jenner7  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:24:58am

Um, Mr. Falwell, we have the LDS church here in Utah, telling legislators that they are against a medical marijuana bill. They also helped fund Prop 8.

The fact that he’s defending Trump over the Pope is fucking mind blowing. Trump could eat a live baby on TV and go up in the polls. Jeebus.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:25:01am

re: #347 lawhawk

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Remember when Nikki Haley was how the GOP was going to prove they were inclusive. Ha-ha, that was a good one.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:25:47am

re: #368 Jenner7

Um, Mr. Falwell, we have the LDS church here in Utah, telling legislators that they are against a medical marijuana bill. They also helped fund Prop 8.

The fact that he’s defending Trump over the Pope is fucking mind blowing. Trump could eat a live baby on TV and go up in the polls. Jeebus.

Carly saw that video./

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nines09  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:25:59am

re: #357 GlutenFreeJesus

Yet, when we as foreigners butt our nose into everyone else’s business, it’s “spreading democracy”.

Yeah, we spread stuff alright.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:26:06am

re: #368 Jenner7

Um, Mr. Falwell, we have the LDS church here in Utah, telling legislators that they are against a medical marijuana bill. They also helped fund Prop 8.

The fact that he’s defending Trump over the Pope is fucking mind blowing. Trump could eat a live baby on TV and go up in the polls. Jeebus.

No surprise that an Evangelical fascist like Falwell would take Trump’s side over the Pope’s here. Falwell and Evangelicals only care about immigrants if they do at all to convert them. They don’t see them as actual people deserving of dignity and respect.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:27:01am

There’s something funny though about the son of a minister who started the Moral Majority saying Christ never intended to give religious instructions though. That one is fucking priceless. Nice one, Jer.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:27:19am

re: #365 Blind Frog Belly White

That headline would be right up there with Batboy or Slam-dunkin’ Jesus.

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Slap  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:28:23am

I know this is an older clip, so it may not be new to some — but if I may be so bold, this is a tiny vid we all should have available in these crazy times:

Macaw / Parrot cursing (Angry Bird saying WTF)

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Kragar  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:29:53am
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Shiplord Kirel  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:30:00am

re: #363 Stanley Sea

I’m terribly lacking in knowledge about Jesus & his teachings (according to the gospels, natch) but can ya’ll give me some of the examples related to this face palm?

The irony, to me at least, is that Falwell himself is hereditary ruler of a huge empire (Liberty University etc.) that was created for the express purpose of allowing religious leaders to tell governments what to do.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:30:19am

I also didn’t see these people objecting when bishops and cardinals tried to deny communion ot pro-choice politicians.

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CuriousLurker  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:30:57am

re: #359 lawhawk

The current situation makes me think of Thomas Beckett & King Henry II: “Who will rid me of this troublesome priest?” I just hope we can make it to November 8 without anyone getting maimed or killed over Trump’s bullshit.

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ipsos  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:35:06am

re: #362 Blind Frog Belly White

“You must be at least this crazy to run for President.”

Sure - but Trump seems to have a unique blend of “this crazy” and “famous enough to attract non-political types to his craziness.”

Who else is out there who could duplicate that? Fortunately, I’m not seeing anyone who could inherit his particular (YOOOGE! CLASSSY!!!!) mantel.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:36:01am

re: #376 Kragar

So #RWNJ who think there should be no separation between Church and State are outraged the #Pope talks politics?

No separation between THEIR church and OUR state. They think separation between HIS church and OUR state is just peachy.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:37:24am

re: #380 ipsos

Sure - but Trump seems to have a unique blend of “this crazy” and “famous enough to attract non-political types to his craziness.”

Who else is out there who could duplicate that? Fortunately, I’m not seeing anyone who could inherit his particular (YOOOGE! CLASSSY!!!!) mantel.

There’s truth in that, and yet if you look at what everyone else is saying, it’s pretty fucking nuts, too. Hell, Huckabee couldn’t get any traction because all the crazy had been sucked out of the room already.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:37:45am

The irony of irony that I think that so many American Evangelicals who push for state and church to be together is that their theocratic ancestors were heavily persecuted in nations that had state religion. They probably think if you just made “Christianity” the state religion that everything would be just peachy though.

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Franklin  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:37:51am

No one really has to duplicate Trump. They just need to capitalize on it. He’s mainstreaming hate and giving a voice to political neophytes.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:40:12am

re: #379 CuriousLurker

The current situation makes me think of Thomas Beckett & King Henry II: “Who will rid me of this troublesome priest?” I just hope we can make it to November 8 without anyone getting maimed or killed over Trump’s bullshit.

Yeah, but I can’t see Peter O’Toole as Trump….

Who will rid me of the troublesome Pope?
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Dr. Matt  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:40:12am
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CuriousLurker  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:44:09am

re: #383 HappyWarrior

The irony of irony that I think that so many American Evangelicals who push for state and church to be together is that their theocratic ancestors were heavily persecuted in nations that had state religion. They probably think if you just made “Christianity” the state religion that everything would be just peachy though.

Just like Muslims who wish for some Islamic utopia then find themselves dealing with goons like the Taliban, Boko Haram or Da’esh.

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Lidane  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:44:35am

Jeb! misplaced his spine again:

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:44:55am

re: #387 CuriousLurker

Just like Muslims who wish for some Islamic utopia then find themselves dealing with goons like the Taliban, Boko Haram or Da’esh.

Exactly.

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CuriousLurker  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:45:10am

re: #385 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, but I can’t see Peter O’Toole as Trump….

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Nor can I.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:45:20am

re: #388 Lidane

Jeb! misplaced his spine again:

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No comment from Rubio I imagine either. Fucking cowards.

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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:46:26am

re: #368 Jenner7

Um, Mr. Falwell, we have the LDS church here in Utah, telling legislators that they are against a medical marijuana bill. They also helped fund Prop 8.

The fact that he’s defending Trump over the Pope is fucking mind blowing. Trump could eat a live baby on TV and go up in the polls. Jeebus.

Especially if the baby was Mexican, or Chinese!

Sorry, I can’t help myself. I’m working on finishing a video and lurking along…this is all so fascinating. Or, is that fascism-nating?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:46:53am

re: #385 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, but I can’t see Peter O’Toole as Trump….

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Backett’s an interesting figure. I saw a lot of parellels in the Becket historiography and Shakespeare’s Richard II which in turn I think also was inspired by the then recent quarrel between cousins Queen Elizabeth I of England and Mary Queen of Scots.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:48:03am

You’d think that with Trump’s Republican opponents being children of immigrants, they’d speak up on immigrants more but nah cowards. Hell Trump’s mother was an immigrant too but different I guess since she was a white Scottish Protestant.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:48:11am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:49:14am

re: #395 Charles Johnson

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Whoa Nellie.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:49:19am

I go to Gabe’s feed on anything Latino & Pope

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Charles Johnson  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:49:26am
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Timothy Watson  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:50:12am

re: #398 Charles Johnson

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Feel the Bern, you moderates!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:52:02am

re: #395 Charles Johnson

Is that what Bernie means by “progressive”?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:52:10am

re: #399 Timothy Watson

Feel the Bern, you moderates!

I’ve read up on him. Does he know that when NRO denigrates SJWs, they’re talking about people like him? This is really low. This guy is an official Sanders surrogate and he’s RTing NR-fucking-O to put Clinton down. Please Bernie, don’t insult my intelligence by telling me you’re running the cleanest campaign in years because you’re not.

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Belafon  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:53:08am

Someone needs to sit Killer Mike down and explain NR to him.

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Targetpractice  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:54:07am

re: #401 HappyWarrior

I’ve read up on him. Does he know that when NRO denigrates SJWs, they’re talking about people like him? This is really low. This guy is an official Sanders surrogate and he’s RTing NR-fucking-O to put Clinton down. Please Bernie, don’t insult my intelligence by telling me you’re running the cleanest campaign in years because you’re not.

Of course his hands are clean…because his surrogates are doing all the dirty work for him. If they become too controversial, he just “denounces” them and is immediately absolved of any potential sin.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:54:36am

I just had to google “Killer Mike”.

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EPR-radar  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:54:41am

re: #401 HappyWarrior

I’ve read up on him. Does he know that when NRO denigrates SJWs, they’re talking about people like him? This is really low. This guy is an official Sanders surrogate and he’s RTing NR-fucking-O to put Clinton down. Please Bernie, don’t insult my intelligence by telling me you’re running the cleanest campaign in years because you’re not.

I’ve been unhappy with the Sanders campaign for some time, so this makes things very simple for me.

Sanders fixes this now, or he is dead to me. Don’t run for office as a Democrat and instruct (or allow) your surrogates to propagate enemy talking points.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:55:17am

re: #403 Targetpractice

Of course his hands are clean…because his surrogates are doing all the dirty work for him. If they become too controversial, he just “denounces” them and is immediately absolved of any potential sin.

It’s fucking annoying. I don’t care how progressive his record is, he seems oblivious to sexism when it’s to his benefit.

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lawhawk  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:56:12am

re: #404 Dr. Matt

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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2016 • 10:57:45am

re: #374 Amory Blaine

That headline would be right up there with Batboy or Slam-dunkin’ Jesus.

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Hey…my all time favorite Onion article…Jesus in the NBA. The image is the Ascension Dunk…it couldn’t be stopped!

: )

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The alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:01:05am

re: #404 Dr. Matt

I just had to google “Killer Mike”.

For about 5 minutes I had him confused with Fat Mike from NOFX… then I came to my senses.

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Targetpractice  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:02:02am

re: #406 HappyWarrior

It’s fucking annoying. I don’t care how progressive his record is, he seems oblivious to sexism when it’s to his benefit.

Bernie’s using a playbook as old as politics: Promise to stay “clean” and rise above the scrum while his surrogates bash the shit out of his opponent(s), “denouncing” them when they become a liability and insisting that he has no control over them or what they say.

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jaunte  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:02:41am

re: #402 Belafon

Someone needs to sit Killer Mike down and explain NR to him.

It’s a problem when a campaign’s surrogates need surrogates to help them manage the message they’re putting out.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:03:11am

re: #410 Targetpractice

Bernie’s using a playbook as old as politics: Promise to stay “clean” and rise above the scrum while his surrogates bash the shit out of his opponent(s), “denouncing” them when they become a liability and insisting that he has no control over them or what they say.

In other words, the politics of usual that his supporters insist he’s above and only the hated Clinton would engage in. I’m okay with Bernie acting like a politician, I’m NOT okay with Bernie doing this and acting like a victim when people call him out for it.

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jaunte  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:03:22am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:05:42am

re: #413 jaunte

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Considering that you do it all the time to pro-choice and pro-gay Christians, Nolte, it’s tic for tack. Oh and I’ll add insult to injury, Trump’s policy is anti-American as well. Is it now, Mr. Gorbachev, rebuild this wall or walls only bad when the hated commies do it.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:06:26am

What gets me is this idea that Bernie is some outsider anti-establishment candidate… even though he’s been in the Senate for 20+ years and caucuses with Democrats.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:08:09am

re: #415 GlutenFreeJesus

What gets me is this idea that Bernie is some outsider anti-establishment candidate… even though he’s been in the Senate for 20+ years and caucuses with Democrats.

I do have to wonder how many of his diehards know he’s been in Washington longer than the Clintons have.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:08:36am

re: #416 HappyWarrior

GASP!!!!

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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:08:43am

re: #388 Lidane

Jeb! misplaced his spine again:

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Jeb! grows more pathetic by the day. In the next major poll of the Nation he might be down to 1%.

Way to spend the money of all those fat cat’s that backed you Bushie Boy.

FAIL!

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CuriousLurker  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:08:45am

re: #404 Dr. Matt

I just had to google “Killer Mike”.

Me too. I had no idea who he was or why I should care what he says. Now I know who he is, but I still don’t care what he says. I think a lot of people just do this crap for the publicity, for the name recognition.

Then there are the assholes like Pacquiao: “I’m happier because I’m telling the truth” (around 00:14 in the video). Right, another guy with The Truth?—so many people have so many different ones, yet each one says his or hers is the real one, the only valid one.

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Kragar  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:09:51am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:10:09am

Baby Whiplash: TEH POAP IS A LEFTIST ATHEIST & NOT A REAL CHRISTIAN JUST LIKE ALL JUICE LIKE BERNIE ARE NOT TEH REAL JEWISH!!!!11!!!

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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:11:39am

re: #395 Charles Johnson

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Everyone that is not “established” needs those passionate supporters don’tcha know!

Damn, this election just gets crazier and crazier.

Where is the ceiling?

Where is the floor?

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Skip Intro  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:12:29am

re: #421 The Vicious Babushka

Trump really got his money’s worth when he paid off the Breitbrats.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:12:35am

re: #421 The Vicious Babushka

Baby Whiplash: TEH POAP IS A LEFTIST ATHEIST & NOT A REAL CHRISTIAN JUST LIKE ALL JUICE LIKE BERNIE ARE NOT TEH REAL JEWISH!!!!11!!!

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So you’re not allowed to comment on any political matters according to Baby Whiplash if you have leftist views? I see appointing himself arbirator of Christiantiy is another job Ben’s added to his resume along with Chief Jew decider and Whiny Right Wing Asshole, Esq.

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Belafon  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:12:38am

re: #411 jaunte

It’s a problem when a campaign’s surrogates need surrogates to help them manage the message they’re putting out.

I figure it’s just being young and not in the loop. Remember how Deray started retweeting Greenwald and/or Snowden? If you don’t do politics regularly, you probably don’t know that having NR on your side is like having the (bad) devil on your side.

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Kragar  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:13:21am

re: #421 The Vicious Babushka

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:13:24am

re: #395 Charles Johnson

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O_o

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freetoken  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:13:33am

Perhaps the most obvious thing to me, this election cycle, is how CNN and MSNBC have abandoned any grounds of “journalism” and have joined Fox News as being entertainment.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:13:47am

re: #418 ObserverArt

Jeb! grows more pathetic by the day. In the next major poll of the Nation he might be down to 1%.

Way to spend the money of all those fat cat’s that backed you Bushie Boy.

FAIL!

I would like to see him do well enough in S.C. to justify staying in the race and prevent the establishment vote from uniting behind Rubiot; I really don’t want him to be the nominee.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:14:20am

re: #425 Belafon

I figure it’s just being young and not in the loop. Deray started retweeting Greenwald and Snowden. If you don’t do politics regularly, you probably don’t know that having NR on your side is like having the (bad) devil on your side.

He’s not young. He’s 41 and an official surrogate of the Sanders campaign. Besides as much as I dislike Snowden and GG, they’re not exactly totally against what Deray stands for like NRO stands against any kind of civil rights advancement dating back to WFB’s days as a Jim Crow and Apartheid apologist.

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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:15:41am

Hey…just got an email response to my screed I sent to Ohio Senator Rob Portman about Congress wanting to hold off on allowing Obama to select a Supreme Court member for Scalia.

In it’s entirety…

Thank you for contacting me regarding the current vacancy on the United States Supreme Court. I appreciate you taking the time to contact me on this important issue.

As you know, we are in the midst of a presidential election and a vigorous debate within both political parties on the direction of the country, with the election less than nine months away. I believe the best thing for the country is to trust the American people to weigh in on who should make a lifetime appointment that could reshape the Supreme Court for generations.

It is common practice for the Senate to stop acting on lifetime appointments during the last year of a presidential term, and it’s been nearly 80 years since any president was permitted to immediately fill a vacancy that arose in a presidential election year. I have supported some of President Obama’s federal court nominees and opposed others, based on their qualifications. Whether the next president is a Republican or Democrat, I will judge any nominee on the merits, as I always have.

Thank you again for taking the time to contact me. For more information, you can visit my website at portman.senate.gov. Please keep in touch.

Wank…wank…

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Skip Intro  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:16:10am

Trump’s favorite black pastor (NSFW).

Foreclosure Tax Message to My Enemies

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jaunte  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:16:19am

If Killer Mike is an “official” Sanders campaign surrogate, it’s gross incompetence.

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Big Beautiful Door  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:16:25am

re: #428 freetoken

Perhaps the most obvious thing to me, this election cycle, is how CNN and MSNBC have abandoned any grounds of “journalism” and have joined Fox News as being entertainment.

Journalism doesn’t draw eyeballs. Its all reality TV infotainment now.

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freetoken  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:16:28am

Tonight is part two of CNN’s “townhall”, hosted by Anderson ‘The Softy’ Cooper.

Trump is on tonight, which ought to be the highlight of the 6 hour marathon.

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Belafon  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:16:43am

re: #430 HappyWarrior

He’s not young. He’s 41 and an official surrogate of the Sanders campaign. Besides as much as I dislike Snowden and GG, they’re not exactly totally against what Deray stands for like NRO stands against any kind of civil rights advancement dating back to WFB’s days as a Jim Crow and Apartheid apologist.

I’m 46. He’s the same age as my sister. He’s obviously young. :)

But I bet he has no clue what NR is. I’m kind of tired of some of Sanders’ supporters things, but I kind of want to give him the benefit of the doubt on retweeting them. Now, his agreeing with the content, we can definitely get him on that.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:16:56am

re: #431 ObserverArt

Hey…just got an email response to my screed I sent to Ohio Senator Rob Portman about Congress wanting to hold of on allowing Obama to select a Supreme Court member for Scalia.

In it’s entirety…

Wank…wank…

What a load of patronizing shit but then again what to expect from a man who is only pro-gay marriage because of his son and who otherwise would be saying the same hateful shit.

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jaunte  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:17:32am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:17:50am

re: #436 Belafon

I’m 46. He’s the same age as my sister. He’s obviously young. :)

But I bet he has no clue what NR is. I’m kind of tired of some of Sanders’ supporters things, but I kind of want to give him the benefit of the doubt on retweeting them. Now, his agreeing with the content, we can definitely get him on that.

Yeah that’s fair. I don’t think he knows what it is either probably. People really should think before they RT though if they’re part of a campaign.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:19:35am

FSM save me from people who think they have to keep being Republicans and voting Republican no matter what!

I have a friend on FB, a college buddy, who’s like that. He’s gay, and says he’s a ‘Roosevelt Republican’. I pointed out that Roosevelt Republican = Obama Democrat. But it’s his team, even though they don’t think he deserves equal rights. Go by positions, and he’s probably a Democrat, but that’s the wrong ‘Team’.

That shit will give us Donald Trump as President.

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Kragar  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:20:25am

re: #438 jaunte

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:21:54am

re: #440 Blind Frog Belly White

FSM save me from people who think they have to keep being Republicans and voting Republican no matter what!

I have a friend on FB, a college buddy, who’s like that. He’s gay, and says he’s a ‘Roosevelt Republican’. I pointed out that Roosevelt Republican = Obama Democrat. But it’s his team, even though they don’t think he deserves equal rights. Go by positions, and he’s probably a Democrat, but that’s the wrong ‘Team’.

That shit will give us Donald Trump as President.

I can’t believe gay Republicans are still a thing. I don’t expect every gay person to be a Democrat FWIW. It’s conceivable that a gay person could have economically right wing views or even some right wing social views but the Republican Party has been declaring war on gay people since the Reagan years and not only that partnering up with people who push the death penalty for gays in Africa and being the loudest supporters from the West of Putin’s Anti-Gay laws.

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Franklin  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:22:09am

For those complaining that the Vatican has a wall, will the new Mexican Wall - Trump Collection? have a public or a “skip the line” entrance?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:22:21am

re: #441 Kragar

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The Right are probably still mad at the Vatican for banning Assault Weapons crossbows.

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Alephnaught  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:22:21am

re: #81 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

“Jungle music” — haven’t heard that term in a long, long time.

shmoop.com

Now it’s used to refer to a kind of electronic music with a heavy beat.

In the UK, it’s even more specific: a genre of music in the early 90s that grew out of the hardcore dance music scene (Where The Prodigy came from.) that took that scene’s breakbeat rhythms, and cut them up, whilst upping the bass (Usually a tuned 808 kick). It’s eventually evolved into Drum and Bass, UK Garage, and Grime.

Here’s one of the first jungle hit singles. Who knew that this would be the start of a process that would end up with Skrillex?

uk apache & shy-fx - original nuttah

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ObserverArt  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:22:37am

re: #441 Kragar

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There you go with actual history ‘n’ shit…

/

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Jenner7  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:22:38am

If the GOP gets into the WH after all of this, I just might lose my mind.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:22:48am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:22:59am

re: #447 Jenner7

If the GOP gets into the WH after all of this, I just might lose my mind.

No kidding.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:23:20am

re: #448 The Vicious Babushka

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Walker is such a heartless asshole. Fucker.

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jaunte  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:23:26am

re: #447 Jenner7

We should encourage Trump to really take it to the Pope.

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freetoken  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:23:47am

The senior governing body of the Vatican wears funky little red caps:

Image: 20120221cnsbr08980.jpg

Shall we demand the US Senate does likewise?

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jaunte  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:24:06am

The Pope can’t even play golf!

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jaunte  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:25:08am

“For a religious leader to question a person’s faith is disgraceful. I am proud to be a Christian and as President I will not allow Christianity to be consistently attacked and weakened [by the Pope].”

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jaunte  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:26:03am

When has the Pope ever organized a parade for our Vets?

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jaunte  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:27:03am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:27:58am

re: #456 jaunte

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Yeah let’s hear from Rush who insulted a thirteen year old girl’s physical appearance on what it means to be a real Christian. Listen to him dittoheads, this guy knows it. //

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:28:01am

re: #442 HappyWarrior

I can’t believe gay Republicans are still a thing. I don’t expect every gay person to be a Democrat FWIW. It’s conceivable that a gay person could have economically right wing views or even some right wing social views but the Republican Party has been declaring war on gay people since the Reagan years and not only that partnering up with people who push the death penalty for gays in Africa and being the loudest supporters from the West of Putin’s Anti-Gay laws.

I don’t understand it. Sure, I can grasp having a different economic view, but the thing is - the current Republican economic stand is far more extreme than Reagan, let alone Teddy Roosevelt. If you call yourself a Roosevelt Republican, and yet support a party that would call Roosevelt a Communist, how does that even make sense?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:28:47am

re: #455 jaunte

When has the Pope ever organized a parade for our Vets?

What have the Romans ever done for us?

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jaunte  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:28:52am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:29:31am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:30:11am

re: #458 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t understand it. Sure, I can grasp having a different economic view, but the thing is - the current Republican economic stand is far more extreme than Reagan, let alone Teddy Roosevelt. If you call yourself a Roosevelt Republican, and yet support a party that would call Roosevelt a Communist, how does that even make sense?

That too.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:30:58am

re: #461 The Vicious Babushka

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Popes have always attacked capitalism. As for attacking Americans? Your hero Trump attacks Americans all the fucking time.

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jaunte  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:31:36am

The Cruz Campaign’s latest dishonest email subject line:

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freetoken  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:32:15am

re: #461 The Vicious Babushka

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jaunte  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:32:26am

Not actually sent from Jeff’s iPhone…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:32:28am

re: #462 HappyWarrior

That too.

He clings to a party that not only no longer believes the same things he believed when he signed up, but also which has been actively ridding itself of people exactly like him for at least 20 years. At a certain point, if people keep telling you you’re not one of them, maybe you should accept it.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:32:36am

The thing is though. Francis’ message on immigration really isn’t that different from what Benedict or John Paul II’s. The difference is and this is why wingnuts hate this Pope is that he makes a strong message of it. Immigrants being treated like shit bothers Francis more than legalized abortion and gay marriage seems to and that infuriates American Catholic wingnuts who ironically enough are now guilty of what they’ve accused liberal American Catholics of doing for years and that’s cherry picking messages.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:33:18am

re: #467 Blind Frog Belly White

He clings to a party that not only no longer believes the same things he believed when he signed up, but also which has been actively ridding itself of people exactly like him for at least 20 years. At a certain point, if people keep telling you you’re not one of them, maybe you should accept it.

It’s sad honestly. Maybe he’ll see the error of his ways. I hope so for his sake.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:33:46am

re: #464 jaunte

The Cruz Campaign’s latest dishonest email subject line:

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Did they contact you because of your widely known reputation for honesty, and offer you a hefty reward for helping Ted Cruz get his father’s money out of Cuba?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:34:57am

re: #469 HappyWarrior

It’s sad honestly. Maybe he’ll see the error of his ways. I hope so for his sake.

Doubtful. And I think I hurt his feelings when I said “They ain’t you anymore. They don’t even like you”, even though it’s unarguably true.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:36:36am

re: #471 Blind Frog Belly White

Doubtful. And I think I hurt his feelings when I said “They ain’t you anymore. They don’t even like you”, even though it’s unarguably true.

Fools and their ways. I’m sure he’s a good guy since you’re friends with him but I just wonder like hell about people like that. Some people think their political party is a till death to us part thing and it really shouldn’t be.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:40:17am

re: #472 HappyWarrior

Fools and their ways. I’m sure he’s a good guy since you’re friends with him but I just wonder like hell about people like that. Some people think their political party is a till death to us part thing and it really shouldn’t be.

Well, we aren’t that close. Haven’t seen him since 1979. I just cannot understand cleaving to the party when you no longer agree with anything it represents, and it treats your kind of people like something to be scraped off the sole of its collective shoe.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:41:51am

re: #473 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, we aren’t that close. Haven’t seen him since 1979. I just cannot understand cleaving to the party when you no longer agree with anything it represents, and it treats your kind of people like something to be scraped off the sole of your shoe.

I know, that just astounds me. Wow though, that is a long time. I have to say as much as I hate the fuck you, I’m rich economics of the GOP, it’s the so con bullshit that bothers me the most along with the constant scapegoating of the other whether the other be an immigrant, religious minority, or gay.

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unproven innocence  Feb 18, 2016 • 11:50:30am

re: #13 teleskiguy

I bowled like shit tonight. I rolled a 59, my best game out of three.

:-P

My very first score was 89 151, but it took about 3 more games to beat that. A friend’s parents owned (and/or managed) the bowling alley. [Correction] I think 89 was my initial score when I had bowling for phys.ed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 18, 2016 • 12:36:26pm

re: #425 Belafon

I figure it’s just being young and not in the loop. Remember how Deray started retweeting Greenwald and/or Snowden? If you don’t do politics regularly, you probably don’t know that having NR on your side is like having the (bad) devil on your side.

That excuse doesn’t work for Cornel West.

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scottslemmons  Feb 18, 2016 • 1:44:57pm

re: #461 The Vicious Babushka

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Have You Ever Seen the Rain - Endless Summer (Creedence Clearwater Revival Cover) (Grand Canyon) Thanks for watching our cover of "Have You Ever Seen The Rain" by Creedence Clearwater Revival. Subscribe: Please Note: No drones were flown in the Grand Canyon National Park. All drone footage was purchased off shutterstock.com. Follow Endless Summer:Instagram: ...
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The Allman Betts - ‘Melodies Are Memories’ (Live at WFUV) wfuv.org ? Follow @wfuv: ow.ly The Allman Betts Band performs "Melodies are Memories" live in Studio A. Recorded 3/27/19. Host: Eric HollandAudio: Chris RussoCameras: Kay Kurkierewicz, Jeffrey Pelayo, Jake Lee, Mackenzie Cranna and Elise LeasureEditor: Jake Lee and Kay ...
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Stevie Ray Vaughan - Crossfire + Travis Walk (Instrumental) [1989] When I first heard Stevie Ray Vaughan it was like a light went off in my head. Being a hack guitar player I was not unlike any other. You chase sounds in your head.What SRV did was just roll ...
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