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We all knew Trump’s meeting with Russian strongman Vladimir Putin was going to be horrible. And it was.

He prefaced the meeting with a tweet blaming “US stupidity” for the poor state of relations with Russia.

Not election hacking. Not assassinations of journalists, political opponents, and critics. Not the invasion and annexation of Crimea.

US stupidity.

And Russia’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs gave him a pat on the head for this one.

Then, after meeting privately with Putin for two hours, Trump gave a press conference in which he backed Putin’s claim that Russia had nothing to do with hacking the 2016 election.

And Putin admitted openly that he wanted Trump to win the election.

They’re laughing at us.

I don’t know what else to say at this point. The grand experiment of the United States has never been in greater danger from its own leader.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:10:39am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:12:46am

US stupidity: we started relying on Social Media as a source of news.

Our print and broadcast media started relying on social media as a source of news

It was easier to get an intern to browse what was trending on Twitter than to pay journalists to do real research

Russia recognized that and took full advantage of it

That is stupidity.

What Trump and his organization did was collusion, and that is another story.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:13:42am
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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:14:29am
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Scottish Dragon  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:15:35am
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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:15:37am

re: #4 jaunte

Dershowitz is the common thread.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:15:47am

I threw out my crying towel. Now I have a screaming pillow.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:17:12am

re: #7 Unshaken Defiance

How about some cat purr therapy? That sound can be very calming.

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makeitstop  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:17:16am

When an old horse like Nance is saying this, you gotta start wondering what’s being said in the halls of the CIA and FBI.

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EPR-radar  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:18:12am

re: #5 Scottish Dragon

There are no Republican patriots in elected office.

It turns out that selling out the nation for the benefit of Adelson, the Koch brothers et al. is perfect preparation for selling out the nation for the benefit of Putin.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:18:31am

re: #9 makeitstop

That is why Mueller has not made a comment. He and his team are doing research.

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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:18:59am

re: #5 Scottish Dragon

They can drop the “and misdemeanors”.

It’s high crimes all the way down here with Trumpworld.

He’s openly conspiring with a foreign power to affect our foreign policy, undermine our alliances, and throw our law enforcement and national security apparatus under the bus to appease a foreign leader whose actions included attempts (successfully) to subvert American elections and elections by our allies over the past 2 years.

Russia continues efforts to subvert our elections.

Russia continues efforts to sow chaos and discord through their misinformation campaign online and continued hacking.

Russia continues efforts to destabilize the global economic system, which is tilted in America’s favor for 70+ years so that they can make inroads (hence the ongoing trade wars against everyone for no good reason, while Russia gets off without so much as a slap on the wrist for interfering in our elections).

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:19:06am

re: #7 Unshaken Defiance

I threw out my crying towel. Now I have a screaming pillow.

take a deep breath

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:19:12am

re: #7 Unshaken Defiance

I threw out my crying towel. Now I have a screaming pillow.

Here. Have a picture.

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ObserverArt  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:19:33am

re: #9 makeitstop

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When an old horse like Nance is saying this, you gotta start wondering what’s being said in the halls of the CIA and FBI.

Posted this at the end of last thread…

Someone mentioned it earlier…but Trump just asked the CIA, FBI, DoD and DoJ to ramp up all investigations and contingencies and start to push this through with a little more attitude added.

What added attitude?

Fuck you Trump. Now we are really pissed.

Sick ‘em!!!

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:20:37am

re: #13 FormerDirtDart ????

take a deep breath

Here in the DFW area it will be 105 on Thursday.

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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:21:06am
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KerFuFFler  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:21:39am

Remember when Republicans complained about Obama’s “apology tour”? Trump’s calling years of careful American diplomacy with a ruthless Russian government “stupid” goes far beyond anything Obama did.

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wrenchwench  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:21:56am

re: #16 Belafon

Here in the DFW area it will be 105 on Thursday.

And you can’t turn on the fan, it’s being hit by nasty stuff.

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Joe Bacon ??  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:22:30am

I got a feeling that a coup is coming…

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makeitstop  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:22:39am
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wrenchwench  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:22:42am

re: #17 lawhawk

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That’s my new resting face.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:22:52am

Illegitimate.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:22:55am

re: #18 KerFuFFler

Trump just apologized to the one country that wants to see us destroyed.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:23:30am

re: #20 Joe Bacon ??

I got a feeling that a coup is coming…

Not a coup, but I suspect we’re going to see a lot more information come out, a lot more pressure on Republicans in Congress that will start showing up to the American people.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:24:07am

re: #25 Belafon

Not a coup, but I suspect we’re going to see a lot more information come out.

you mean people are going to stop covering for him?

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makeitstop  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:24:17am

re: #20 Joe Bacon ??

I got a feeling that a coup is coming…

Something’s gotta give here, Joe.

If not a coup, a flurry of leaks that will absolutely bury that treasonous motherfucker.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:24:20am
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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:24:27am
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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:24:33am

re: #24 Belafon

Trump just apologized to the one country that wants to see us destroyed.

Damaged.

Destroyed, we’re no good to Putin.

But damaged, we’re easier to sway and manipulate.

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Joe Bacon ??  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:24:55am

This makes Munich 1938 look like a Studio 54 Disco Party.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:25:42am

re: #26 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

you mean people are going to stop covering for him?

Yes, I think more and more information is going to come out that makes it a lot clearer to people what is happening and put a lot more pressure on Congress.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:26:35am

re: #20 Joe Bacon ??

I got a feeling that a coup is coming…

You ain’t the only one.

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Bass Reeves  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:26:50am

re: #2 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are some ways that social media has been a boon for distribution of information, and some ways it has hurt. But in no case is it a uniquely American trend.

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:27:03am
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Belafon  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:27:05am

re: #30 lawhawk

Damaged.

Destroyed, we’re no good to Putin.

But damaged, we’re easier to sway and manipulate.

We can recover from damaged.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:27:33am

re: #32 Belafon

Yes, I think more and more information is going to come out that makes it a lot clearer to people what is happening and put a lot more pressure on Congress.

I hope this turns into the summer ‘74 again when the GOP finally gave up on defending Nixon as they saw how much he was hurting them

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Charles Johnson  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:27:51am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:28:26am

re: #38 Charles Johnson

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LOL what color is the sky in Pence’s world?

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makeitstop  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:28:29am

Another concerned Republican…

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:28:40am

re: #21 makeitstop

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Camp Waconda  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:28:50am

re: Charles Johnson

Sweet Christmas.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:28:51am

re: #34 Bass Reeves

There are some ways that social media has been a boon for distribution of information, and some ways it has hurt. But in no case is it a uniquely American trend.

yes, a great way to find out about what your friends and family are up to.

a great way to exchange opinions

but when it comes to viable and verifiable news about politics and current events, then you need reliable sources with professional standards and reputations.

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:29:15am
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makeitstop  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:29:45am

re: #39 Dr Lizardo

LOL what color is the sky in Pence’s world?

Red, of course.

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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:29:47am

re: #38 Charles Johnson

Pence is complicit in the criminal misconduct by the admin.

He took an oath to protect and defend the nation from threats foreign and domestic.

Trump is both: he’s a foreign and domestic threat.

By failing to uphold his oath, he too is a threat to the nation.

Pence is no better than the rest of the craven GOPers who continue to back this traitorous regime.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:30:42am

re: #46 lawhawk

Pence is complicit in the criminal misconduct by the admin.

If Trump goes, Pence has to go as well or we will have gained little.

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makeitstop  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:31:17am
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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:31:38am
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:31:39am

re: #47 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Who is next in line after DT and MP?

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:32:26am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:32:31am

re: #38 Charles Johnson

Vomit

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Charles Johnson  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:32:32am
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KerFuFFler  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:32:46am

re: #50 PhillyPretzel

Who is next in line after DT and MP?

Currently Paul Ryan, Speaker of the House.

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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:33:05am

re: #50 PhillyPretzel

Ryan.

Who is no better.

That all changes in November. Democrats take control in the House, and Pelosi would be third in line…

And yes, I said Pelosi, because she’d repeat as Speaker.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:33:05am

Ted Lieu:
“What Trump did today was utterly shameful, and a slap in the face to the professionals in the Department of Justice and our intelligence community. Today we watched a U.S. President offer total deference to a hostile foreign power while attacking U.S. institutions. By refusing to admit that Russia attacked our Democracy, or that Russia did anything wrong whatsoever, Trump is disturbingly regurgitating the Kremlin’s talking points.

Having served on active duty, I feel nauseous thinking about Trump’s statements. Despite how desensitized we’ve become to Trump’s remarkably un-presidential actions, today should stand out as obscene. What happens next will determine whether we allow our President to cede American ideals and authority to a foreign power. We’re now at a crossroads where we have to decide whether we’re willing to let blind partisan loyalty to Trump lead to the debasing of our country. After this appalling display, will the Republicans finally stand up for America?”

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Charles Johnson  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:33:26am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:33:27am

re: #50 PhillyPretzel

Who is next in line after DT and MP?

not much better, granted, but Pence…no way.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:34:01am

re: #50 PhillyPretzel

If they’re removed at the same time, the Speaker of the House.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:34:46am
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Bass Reeves  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:35:01am

re: #43 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It’s also a great way to get ground information from areas in which you cannot reasonably send people or which have a media more heavily controlled by the state, or where this is media suppression. Think Arab Spring, Ferguson.

The biggest problem is not that media uses these sources, is that they use them uncritically. That is probably a vulnerability shared by each new means of delivering information to the masses. Newspapers, cable news, and the internet were all in this space once. Some of us are better at vetting social media sources now than we were two years ago, but Russia caught on quicker due to their need for asymmetric levers.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:35:11am

re: #18 KerFuFFler

Remember when Republicans complained about Obama’s “apology tour”? Trump’s calling years of careful American diplomacy with a ruthless Russian government “stupid” goes far beyond anything Obama did.

That’s why we love him he just says whatever’s on his mind and he’s not politically correct.

But why did DJT act like such a wimpy weasel at the press conference all sucking up to Putin?

That was just eleventy-sh dimension PR chess DJT is playing he was probably really tough when they were in private.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:35:40am
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:35:47am

I will not be distracted by the idea of Pence as POTUS. Trump out is better than every other scenario. Take it one thing at a time.

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Kragar  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:36:20am
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Charles Johnson  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:36:36am
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:36:40am

Can we ask the chain smoker to come back?
John Boehner was the name I was looking for.
en.wikipedia.org

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Scottish Dragon  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:37:06am
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Belafon  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:37:12am

re: #65 Kragar

The FBI has it, Ron. Get back on topic.

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:37:31am
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ObserverArt  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:37:34am

re: #38 Charles Johnson

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And Pence needs to go too…right along with Donny.

Pence is showing his ass with that comment. He knows others in the party are putting out very different statements.

Pence seems to think he can keep himself suctioned to Trump’s lower regions and ride this out.

Should today be the start of the actual downfall of Trump and it becomes clear he has lost the Republicans finally, watch Pence change on a dime and say he never supported Trump and knew the Russian thing was dangerous all along.

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Kragar  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:37:54am
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ObserverArt  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:37:57am

re: #39 Dr Lizardo

LOL what color is the sky in Pence’s world?

Yellow.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:38:29am

“But mom! Hillary stayed up late doing her homework! Why am I in trouble for cheating on the test?”

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:38:33am

re: #65 Kragar

Besides being ridiculous and evasive, it sounds rather odd. I don’t think a server is a piece of machinery you can just pick up and carry around and whatever. Maybe someone more knowledgeable on the techy stuff can fill in the details. It’s just a bunch of links and tubes, man.

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Scottish Dragon  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:38:45am

All I know is that I watched the POTUS get cuck-fucked on live TV and his supporters know it, since they saw it also.

That’s why they are so desperate to bring Hillary’s emails back into the conversation.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:38:54am

re: #72 Kragar

And?

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:39:00am

re: #65 Kragar

Wall to wall Q references in his replies.

I hope he’s fucking proud.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:39:08am

re: #61 Bass Reeves

It’s also a great way to get ground information from areas in which you cannot reasonably send people or which have a media more heavily controlled by the state, or where this is media suppression. Think Arab Spring, Ferguson.

The biggest problem is not that media uses these sources, is that they use them uncritically.

exactly, a great source of raw information, but it has to be processed and put into context before it can become meaningful news

and we have seen how there are people who are expert at exploiting this slight slip betwixt lip and cup…

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:39:10am

re: #72 Kragar

And this guy can follow the other gangsters right out the door, too.

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wrenchwench  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:39:55am

Pence needs to be agnewed, ASAP.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:40:18am

re: #81 wrenchwench

yes.

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:40:32am
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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:41:28am
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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:42:00am

re: #65 Kragar

Where’s Hillary’s server?

It’s secure.

Where’s Trump?

Securely fastened to Putin (pick an anatomical location).

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:42:05am

re: #84 jaunte

possibly?? He is darn it.

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makeitstop  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:42:31am

re: #84 jaunte

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Go, Tammy. Dems better start hammering this point, prontissimo.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:43:26am

Sad, but true

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Kragar  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:43:55am
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Skip Intro  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:44:48am

re: #39 Dr Lizardo

LOL what color is the sky in Pence’s world?

Orange.

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:45:07am
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Scottish Dragon  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:45:38am
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Belafon  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:45:57am

re: #83 JordanRules

Because there are lots of people at all of these federal offices debating “serve or save.” OTOH, what exactly would that change right now?

If you have a guy who wants to be a dictator, and a group of supporters - some in the legislative branch - who want to let him, would having a bunch of people resign actually hurt or help?

You know which group quitting would actually hurt Trump the most? Treasury. That group should quit all at once. When the SS checks stop flowing, then reality will set in.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:46:07am

Dec.15, 2016
“…U.S. intelligence officials now believe with “a high level of confidence” that Russian President Vladimir Putin became personally involved in the covert Russian campaign to interfere in the U.S. presidential election, senior U.S. intelligence officials told NBC News.

Two senior officials with direct access to the information say new intelligence shows that Putin personally directed how hacked material from Democrats was leaked and otherwise used. The intelligence came from diplomatic sources and spies working for U.S. allies, the officials said.

Putin’s objectives were multifaceted, a high-level intelligence source told NBC News. What began as a “vendetta” against Hillary Clinton morphed into an effort to show corruption in American politics and to “split off key American allies by creating the image that [other countries] couldn’t depend on the U.S. to be a credible global leader anymore,” the official said.”

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sagehen  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:47:22am

re: #9 makeitstop

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When an old horse like Nance is saying this, you gotta start wondering what’s being said in the halls of the CIA and FBI.

And how quickly they’ll begin saying it out loud. In public. With microphones in front of their faces. And releasing audiotapes.

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:47:26am

Unsurprisingly, I really don’t care what Cornell West’s opinion is

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Dr. Matt  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:47:32am

Expect Sean Hannity to be frothing tonight.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:48:03am

re: #96 FormerDirtDart ????

Unsurprisingly, I really don’t care what Cornell Weat’a opinion is

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Is Cornell still upset because Obama never bought him a pony?

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Kragar  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:48:15am
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ericblair  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:48:50am

re: #89 Kragar

“What the world saw, what the American people saw, is that President Donald Trump will always put the prosperity and security of America first.”

If Pence had any brains he’d find the nearest bunker and hole up for a month. But they don’t call him Dence for no reason.

Putin works on deception and misdirection. Put it all out in the open and force the talking heads to publicly admit what everybody here has known from the beginning.

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Scottish Dragon  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:48:57am
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:49:04am

White House Seeking Ways To Make It More Obvious That Trump Is Controlled By Putin

s&m dominance metaphor porn video idea ruled out for now

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Scottish Dragon  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:49:54am

re: #96 FormerDirtDart ????

Unsurprisingly, I really don’t care what Cornell Weat’a opinion is

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Really tired of Brother West.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:50:07am
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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:51:55am
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Skip Intro  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:52:13am

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Dr. Matt  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:52:46am

And this…..

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sagehen  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:52:48am

re: #35 MsJ

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The only people who came off well in that SBC were the Republican couple that had him over to dinner. The man could barely restrain himself, his wife had to keep shushing him, and after the credits they had him back on speaking to cameraman saying flat out that dude is fucked up.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:53:40am

re: #106 Skip Intro

GOP, Dems Take Opposing Positions In Weather Controversy.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:54:02am

Every day I am becoming more and more convinced that:

1. Congress will fall into Democrat control

2. Trump will be either Impeached and Removed or the 25th Amendment enacted.

3. Trump will flee the US to Russia to avoid prosecution.

4. Trump will live out his days under Putin’s protection inside Russia and become the symbolic head of an international alt-right white nationalist groups of of losers across Europe and America. This Russian-funded group’s purpose is to sow discord and political chaos within the USA and Europe.

5. Russia wins.

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ObserverArt  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:54:16am

Russia, if you are listening?

I hope you are able to release the pee tapes and other videos of Trump.

I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by the American people.

After that…you can go fuck yourself.

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Skip Intro  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:54:24am

re: #109 jaunte

GOP, Dems Take Opposing Positions In Weather Controversy.

“Let’s see what our panel has to say about that.”

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:54:32am

re: #89 Kragar

Baghdad Bob doesn’t see too well.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:54:33am

re: #107 Dr. Matt

And this…..

I would not be surprised if this occurs frequently for a while.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:54:56am

Don’t screw with Mom.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:55:01am

re: #112 Skip Intro

“I like wet”

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:55:28am

re: #107 Dr. Matt

And this…..

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What organization? NRA?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:55:33am

re: #110 Rocky-in-Connecticut

5. Russia wins.

Whatever the outcome, Russia will benefit from it.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:55:34am

re: #105 JordanRules

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“What will Haspell do?”

Waterboard a random Arab?

Anywho…. wander what Abby will say tomorrow morning sandwiched between dumber and dumbest.

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makeitstop  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:55:36am

re: #112 Skip Intro

“Let’s see what out panel has to say about that.”

‘Well, I guess we’ll just have to leave it right there. More after this.’

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EPR-radar  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:55:41am

Justice can be a scary thing. Justice compels us to ask which elected Republican officials in DC should be hanged for espionage and subversion, realizing that this list is very long.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:56:09am

Just saw someone going apeshit on Facebook posting 6 year old articles from Heritage Foundation claiming Obama apologized for America, Obama’s 50 biggest embarrassments, etc., etc., The MAGAts are t.r.i.g.g.e.r.e.d.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:57:50am

re: #92 Scottish Dragon

“The press was very mean and disrespectful to our MAGA president overseas! Very traitorous behavior. Take their media licenses away!”

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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:57:58am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:58:17am

Look, I was speaking metaphorically when I claimed Republicans were being reduced to gibbering idiocy in their efforts to defend Trumputin. Here, though, is Lubbock radio host Wade Wilkes going there for real:

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:58:37am

re: #122 Dr. Matt

Busy trying to pretend their Dear Leader didn’t just appear globally as the definition of their insult “cuck.”

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:58:52am

re: #122 Dr. Matt

Just saw someone going apeshit on Facebook posting 6 year old articles from Heritage Foundation claiming Obama apologized for America, Obama’s 50 biggest embarrassments, etc., etc., The MAGAts are t.r.i.g.g.e.r.e.d.

And, once again, how does that absolve Trump of rewarding Russia for sabotaging our country?

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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:59:41am

re: #125 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

This is appropriate response then:

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:59:43am

re: #118 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

All Russia has to do is sow enough chaos so that sanctions are lifted and NATO is too fragmented to provide any sort of real deterrent to Putin invading the Baltics, Eastern European states, and possibly even Eastern Poland. Russian leadership under Putin has constantly lamented the territory lost under USSR hegemony and actively plans to take it back.

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makeitstop  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:59:51am

So…where’s Mitch McConnell hiding today, I wonder?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 11:59:53am

re: #119 Barefoot Grin

“What will Haspell do?”

Waterboard a random Arab?

Anywho…. wander what Abby will say tomorrow morning sandwiched between dumber and dumbest.

Gee thanks Abby. Tell that to your bosses at Faux.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:00:24pm

re: #127 Belafon

And, once again, how does that absolve Trump of rewarding Russia for sabotaging our country?


But…..SHUT UP11!!111!!!! ….AND maga!!111

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Charles Johnson  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:00:26pm

Now, because I asked John McCain what he’s going to DO about this, I have people on Twitter calling me an asshole.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:00:44pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:01:22pm

re: #119 Barefoot Grin

“What will Haspell do?”

Waterboard a random Arab?

Anywho…. wander what Abby will say tomorrow morning sandwiched between dumber and dumbest.

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Abby is only a Saturday friend.

If Abby has any actual political guts she would resign from Fox immediately.

And if her father, who once ran for President, has any integrity and love for this country he would also resign after today.

I doubt either of them will do it.

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makeitstop  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:01:47pm

re: #133 Charles Johnson

Now, because I asked John McCain what he’s going to DO about this, I have people on Twitter calling me an asshole.

You’re just so uncivil, Charles.
/

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:02:02pm
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ericblair  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:02:02pm

re: #117 MsJ

What organization? NRA?

Yes. This is big: she is one of the two main go-betweens between Russia and the NRA. The other is Aleksandr Torshin. She’s in custody in Washington. Looks like she was picked up yesterday. NRA is in a lot of shit I think.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:02:39pm
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EPR-radar  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:04:34pm

re: #130 makeitstop

So…where’s Mitch McConnell hiding today, I wonder?

Inside his shell, of course.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:04:39pm

re: #134 jaunte

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The stampede to the Russian embassy will begin any time. Stone is smart enough to skip the country and request asylum at a Russian embassy in somewhere like Mali. Lower level traitors may get caught in a simple dragnet though.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:04:45pm

re: #129 Rocky-in-Connecticut

All Russia has to do is sow enough chaos so that sanctions are lifted and NATO is too fragmented to provide any sort of real deterrent to Putin invading the Baltics, Eastern European states, and possibly even Eastern Poland. Russian leadership under Putin has constantly lamented the territory lost under USSR hegemony and actively plans to take it back.

That has been my point for a long time. Reconstructing the old Russian Empire, making sure that America is to hapless and torn by internal scandals and NATO and the EU fragmented.

Putin has 20+ million ethnic Russians living outside the Russian Federation, those are his Sudetendeutsch

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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:05:14pm

re: #133 Charles Johnson

Now, because I asked John McCain what he’s going to DO about this, I have people on Twitter calling me an asshole.

McCain, Flake, Collins, and the rest of the “mavericky” types in the GOP that talk that they’re concerned, but when the votes come, they fall in line behind McConnell like good GOPers with one exception (ACA repeal).

The exception isn’t the rule.

And this is so far beyond the pale that they have the ability to take action - but wont.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:05:38pm

re: #134 jaunte

Putin will complain to DJT about this of course; Then DJT will bitch about Sessions at DOJ allowing this and recusing himself etc.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:06:45pm
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Belafon  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:06:52pm

A lot of crap is about to go down. And every American paying attention - like us, for instance - will need to be ready to stand up for those opposing the destruction of our country. And I don’t mean taking a bullet or stuff like that, but calling out bullshit. The hardest thing for people to do is the right thing when it seems no one is standing with them.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:07:09pm

re: #134 jaunte

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Oooh……Putin ain’t gonna like that.

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makeitstop  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:07:19pm

Putin lied! Oh, my stars and garters!
/

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:07:57pm

re: #139 jaunte

This is not really great timing for MAGA world.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:08:32pm

re: #148 makeitstop

Who in the world can we trust?

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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:08:41pm

re: #144 Sir John Barron

This is another link in the Russia infiltration and misinformation campaign. Specifically, it links the NRA and Russian hacking efforts.

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Scottish Dragon  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:08:46pm

She was part of the NRA money funneling effort.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:10:11pm

Pence is currently sending his people out to discover where Putin places his water bottle.

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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:10:12pm
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Scottish Dragon  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:10:22pm

re: #105 JordanRules

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makeitstop  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:10:55pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:12:43pm

re: #151 lawhawk

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This is another link in the Russia infiltration and misinformation campaign. Specifically, it links the NRA and Russian hacking efforts.

The NRA Board is probably shitting bricks right now.

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wrenchwench  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:13:23pm

re: #157 Dr Lizardo

The NRA Board is probably shitting bricks right now.

On their fan.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:13:31pm

re: #157 Dr Lizardo

The NRA Board is probably shitting bricks right now.

Time for Bongino and Dana to do another smashing watermelons video or something.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:13:34pm

re: #156 makeitstop

“You can take my life, but you’ll never take away my dictionary!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:14:03pm

re: #157 Dr Lizardo

The NRA Board is probably shitting bricks right now.

Time to come up with some incredible CT’s about how the DNC Soros Obama Hillary Deep State arranged all this so they could then leak it to topple Trump because that was easier than just winning an election outright…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:14:03pm

re: #157 Dr Lizardo

The NRA Board is probably shitting bricks right now.

Good. I hope they all end up in a place where they’re surrounded by men with guns they can’t use. Forget the name of such a place though.//

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:14:18pm

re: #157 Dr Lizardo

The NRA Board is probably shitting bricks right now.

$100 says they’ll criticize DOJ and the “deep state”.

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Skip Intro  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:15:00pm

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calochortus  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:15:06pm

I’m obviously never going to catch up here, so I’ll just hope I’m not repeating somewhere else, but even this isn’t shaking the devotion of the wingnuts. FR had (when I looked earlier) a few short threads on Trump/Putin and they all devolved into the evils of the Deep State. Red Stater’s didn’t seem very interested, and tended to be worried about Trump critics and other Deep Staters as well. Anyone who points out Trump didn’t exactly cover himself with glory must be a traitor.
Weird.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:15:47pm

re: #151 lawhawk

This is another link in the Russia infiltration and misinformation campaign. Specifically, it links the NRA and Russian hacking efforts.

Can’t wait for DJT to call his own DOJ “stupid”.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:16:45pm

re: #161 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Time to come up with some incredible CT’s about how the DNC arranged all this so they could then leak it to topple Trump because that was easier than just winning an election outright…

Hey, there was the Doctor’s Plot back in the day. A (Stalin-era) conspiracy theory that hinged on the belief that the best way to bump off the USSR’s Central Committee was to make sure they all caught a cold.

Or something. As opposed to, you know, maybe actually assassinating them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:17:01pm

re: #165 calochortus

I’m obviously never going to catch up here, so I’ll just hope I’m not repeating somewhere else, but even this isn’t shaking the devotion of the wingnuts. FR had (when I looked earlier) a few short threads on Trump/Putin and they all devolved into the evils of the Deep State. Red Stater’s didn’t seem very interested, and tended to be worried about Trump critics and other Deep Staters as well. Anyone who points out Trump didn’t exactly cover himself with glory must be a traitor.
Weird.

Best outcome is that this starts to eat into his solid 30% core of supporters while highly motivating voters from of the remaining 70% to get out and put country over Trump.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:17:48pm

re: #163 Sir John Barron

$100 says they’ll criticize DOJ and the “deep state”.

I have no doubt. They’ll crank up their media machine to spew out “Deep State” conspiracy theory bullshit 24/7.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:17:59pm

re: #167 Dr Lizardo

Hey, there was the Doctor’s Plot back in the day. A (Stalin-era) conspiracy theory that hinged on the belief that the best way to bump off the USSR’s Central Committee was to make sure they all caught a cold.

Or something. As opposed to, you know, maybe actually assassinating them.

Jewish doctors. And the hysteria got so bad that sick people were not going to doctors for treatment for fear of being poisoned…

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:18:19pm

re: #165 calochortus

I’m obviously never going to catch up here, so I’ll just hope I’m not repeating somewhere else, but even this isn’t shaking the devotion of the wingnuts. FR had (when I looked earlier) a few short threads on Trump/Putin and they all devolved into the evils of the Deep State. Red Stater’s didn’t seem very interested, and tended to be worried about Trump critics and other Deep Staters as well. Anyone who points out Trump didn’t exactly cover himself with glory must be a traitor.
Weird.

Guess they’re all in until DJT finally takes them completely over the cliff.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:19:12pm

re: #162 HappyWarrior

Good. I hope they all end up in a place where they’re surrounded by men with guns they can’t use. Forget the name of such a place though.//

Russia.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:19:59pm

re: #172 Belafon

Russia.

Prison! I was thinking of prison.

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Skip Intro  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:20:24pm

re: #157 Dr Lizardo

The NRA Board is probably shitting bricks right now.

No, they’re getting ready to crank the Fear Generator up to 11.

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ericblair  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:20:36pm

re: #157 Dr Lizardo

The NRA Board is probably shitting bricks right now.

I’m reading the press release here. Holy crap, they’re tying her to GUN RIGHTS ORGANIZATION, and right to POLITICAL PARTY 1.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:20:43pm

re: #173 HappyWarrior

Prison! I was thinking of prison.

Either one works.

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sagehen  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:21:27pm

re: #157 Dr Lizardo

The NRA Board is probably shitting bricks right now.

David Hogg hasn’t posted yet. But I imagine he’s on a conference call with Emma Gonzalez, Cameron Kasky, Sarah Chadwick et al trying to compose the utterly PERFECT tweets they’ll all be sending out soon.

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wrenchwench  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:21:41pm

re: #176 Belafon

Either one works.

Both.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:22:23pm

re: #163 Sir John Barron

$100 says they’ll criticize DOJ and the “deep state”.

“Why didn’t Obama stop us!?”

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gocart mozart  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:22:45pm
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ericblair  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:23:03pm

re: #175 ericblair

31. …”Unrelated to specific presidential campaigns, I’ve been involved in securing a VERY private line of communication between the Kremlin and POLITICAL PARTY 1 leaders through, of all conduits, the [GUN RIGHTS ORGANIZATION]”

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ObserverArt  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:23:10pm

re: #138 ericblair

Yes. This is big: she is one of the two main go-betweens between Russia and the NRA. The other is Aleksandr Torshin. She’s in custody in Washington. Looks like she was picked up yesterday. NRA is in a lot of shit I think.

I am hoping this leads right to Rob Portman here is Ohio. There have been stories the NRA helped Rob’s campaign by buying both supportive ads and negative ads against his opponent Ted Strickland in the 2016 Senate race. Portman can say he didn’t get NRA/Russian contributions directly. This might be the connected needed to find the facts.

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calochortus  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:23:41pm

re: #171 Sir John Barron

Guess they’re all in until DJT finally takes them completely over the cliff.

Or perhaps it’s only the most delusional wingnuts are doing the commenting and as Wendell Zurkowitz suggested and a few of the 30% will become a bit disillusioned.

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:23:49pm

re: #161 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Time to come up with some incredible CT’s about how the DNC Soros Obama Hillary Deep State arranged all this so they could then leak it to topple Trump because that was easier than just winning an election outright…

Credible? Have you seen the Q bullshit? Credibility is not, in any way, required.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:23:55pm

re: #175 ericblair

I’m reading the press release here. Holy crap, they’re tying her to GUN RIGHTS ORGANIZATION, and right to POLITICAL PARTY 1.

Fuck me, it’s obvious as daylight what’s being referred to.

This is significant.

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:24:37pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:24:52pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:25:01pm

re: #141 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The stampede to the Russian embassy will begin any time. Stone is smart enough to skip the country and request asylum at a Russian embassy in somewhere like Mali. Lower level traitors may get caught in a simple dragnet though.

I’m thinking all of these guys are being watched for that very reason.

I don’t think Stone is going to be going anywhere. Well, maybe to jail…but I doubt he can sneak out. Any attempt will be damning.

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gocart mozart  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:25:20pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:25:55pm

re: #180 gocart mozart

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I guess you missed what you caused when you incited people against Obama, you feckless toad.

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:28:03pm
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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:28:19pm

re: #158 wrenchwench

I think you fail to realize the true nature of today’s NRA. They are no longer a hunter-focused, dad’s arm around the son’s shoulder out in the countryside gun rights organization.

Since 1980 or so they morphed into a radical right wing White-Christian supremacist group with a dominant political arm focused on building an international presence in “white” countries via native hard right wing supremacist groups. The NRA now operates rather openly with like-minded international miscreants and con men. The NRA’s presence inside Russia has been known for awhile now openly aligning with anti-gay, anti-minority, anti-woman’s rights individuals in an effort to extract funding, business opportunities, and expanding their 4Chan-style sub-culture.
washingtonpost.com

This WaPo article from 2017 talks a little about this effort, but there is much much more to the NRA’s efforts in Russia and elsewhere.

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Jack Burton  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:28:32pm

re: #176 Belafon

Either one works.

Black Dolphin. That would be suitable; however, if they end up fleeing to Russia, it won’t be a prison they are going to.

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sagehen  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:29:43pm

re: #175 ericblair

I’m reading the press release here. Holy crap, they’re tying her to GUN RIGHTS ORGANIZATION, and right to POLITICAL PARTY 1.

OMG!! that detailed indictment… it’s not just the NRA, she was also heavily involved in coordinating between Russia and the Prayer Breakfast talibangelicals…

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:29:48pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:29:53pm

re: #151 lawhawk

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This is another link in the Russia infiltration and misinformation campaign. Specifically, it links the NRA and Russian hacking efforts.

I don’t think you can say the NRA was part of the hacking lawhawk.

They received money to distribute to certain Republican campaigns in indirect ways to help those campaigns with pro and con ads to support their campaigns. Of course they also talked up their own shit about gun control and Hillary, etc.

Yes, they helped, but not with hacking IMO.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:30:38pm

Besties!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:30:58pm

re: #192 Rocky-in-Connecticut

I think you fail to realize the true nature of today’s NRA. They are no longer a hunter-focused, dad’s arm around the son’s shoulder out in the countryside gun rights organization.

Since 1980 or so they morphed into a radical right wing White-Christian supremacist group with a dominant political arm focused on building an international presence in “white” countries via native hard right wing supremacist groups. The NRA now operates rather openly with like-minded international miscreants and con men. The NRA’s presence inside Russia has been known for awhile now openly aligning with anti-gay, anti-minority, anti-woman’s rights individuals in an effort to extract funding, business opportunities, and expanding their 4Chan-style sub-culture.
washingtonpost.com

This WaPo article from 2017 talks a little about this effort, but there is much much more to the NRA’s efforts in Russia and elsewhere.

Right, the NRA my grandfather joined along with several of my grand uncles was about responsible gun ownership not some right wing bullshit that Wayne LaPierre has because he’s an insecure racist dick.

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wrenchwench  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:31:38pm

re: #192 Rocky-in-Connecticut

I realize. I live among them.

Thanks for the info that backs it.

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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:32:02pm

re: #196 ObserverArt

It was part of the concerted effort to destabilize the US and manipulate the media. That included the hacking efforts and using lobbying groups to shift discussion and spread agitprop.

So, it’s just another tool in Putin’s bag of tricks.

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:32:05pm

re: #192 Rocky-in-Connecticut

I think you fail to realize the true nature of today’s NRA. They are no longer a hunter-focused, dad’s arm around the son’s shoulder out in the countryside gun rights organization.

Since 1980 or so they morphed into a radical right wing White-Christian supremacist group with a dominant political arm focused on building an international presence in “white” countries via native hard right wing supremacist groups. The NRA now operates rather openly with like-minded international miscreants and con men. The NRA’s presence inside Russia has been known for awhile now openly aligning with anti-gay, anti-minority, anti-woman’s rights individuals in an effort to extract funding, business opportunities, and expanding their 4Chan-style sub-culture.
washingtonpost.com

This WaPo article from 2017 talks a little about this effort, but there is much much more to the NRA’s efforts in Russia and elsewhere.

I feel pretty comfortable asserting that it’s highly unlikely that any lizards don’t get what the NRA is now.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:32:16pm

National
Russia
Association

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calochortus  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:32:22pm

My book club is reading Bill Browder’s Red Notice about Hermitage Capital, why Putin hates him, and Sergei Magnitsky and Browder’s work to get the Magnitsky Act passed.
Very timely, as it turns out. Putin basically just suggested trading these 12 indicted Russians for Browder because he holds a grudge even longer than Trump does.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:33:11pm

re: #183 calochortus

Or perhaps it’s only the most delusional wingnuts are doing the commenting and as Wendell Zurkowitz suggested and a few of the 30% will become a bit disillusioned.

Best case scenario is that a chunk of his hard core supporters will start to saver and make it harder for the GOP to gain a majority

And that GOP will see that and start to get proactive about distancing themselves from him

There are plenty who will stick with him to the end

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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:33:14pm

Wow. Today’s Friday night news dump is coming fast and furious.

Wait. It’s Monday? 3:30pm EDT?

Holy fucking shit.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:34:26pm

GoA head Larry Pratt was apparently even too stupid for use as a Russian tool.

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sagehen  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:34:31pm

re: #198 HappyWarrior

Right, the NRA my grandfather joined along with several of my grand uncles was about responsible gun ownership not some right wing bullshit that Wayne LaPierre has because he’s an insecure racist dick.

Back then, the NRA were huge environmentalists. Because obviously, deer hunters and duck hunters are deeply concerned about habitat preservation.

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:35:04pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:35:51pm
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Dave In Austin  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:36:25pm

Is there a Sarah Press conference today. The next one will be a blow up.

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sagehen  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:37:09pm

re: #203 calochortus

My book club is reading Bill Browder’s Red Notice about Hermitage Capital, why Putin hates him, and Sergei Magnitsky and Browder’s work to get the Magnitsky Act passed.
Very timely, as it turns out. Putin basically just suggested trading these 12 indicted Russians for Browder because he holds a grudge even longer than Trump does.

Underlining why Bill Browder saw the wisdom of giving up his American citizenship and becoming a British subject.

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:39:06pm

re: #205 lawhawk

Wow. Today’s Friday night news dump is coming fast and furious.

Wait. It’s Monday? 3:30pm EDT?

Holy fucking shit.

Pre and post summit major Russia investigation drops. Holy fucking shit indeed! And then there’s the actual summit. More treason all in the open for the world to see. A crazy traitor sandwich.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:39:29pm
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makeitstop  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:39:41pm

Is this guy a Republican?

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calochortus  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:39:43pm

re: #211 sagehen

Underlining why Bill Browder saw the wisdom of giving up his American citizenship and becoming and British subject.

Yup.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:40:53pm
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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:41:02pm
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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:42:56pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:43:48pm

re: #195 jaunte

NOTHING TO SEE HERE PLEASE DISPERSE

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:45:35pm

Mainstream media will probably start finally using all of Sarah’s old work.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:45:53pm

re: #219 Sir John Barron

NOTHING TO SEE HERE PLEASE DISPERSE FAR AND WIDE

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:47:33pm

re: #220 JordanRules

Mainstream media will probably start finally using all of Sarah’s old work.

and I will develop an even bigger crush on her

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makeitstop  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:49:55pm
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austin_blue  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:50:02pm

re: #200 lawhawk

It was part of the concerted effort to destabilize the US and manipulate the media. That included the hacking efforts and using lobbying groups to shift discussion and spread agitprop.

So, it’s just another tool in Putin’s bag of tricks.

Bingo! Hackers, crackers, money launderers, influence peddlers, &c.

Mueller is pulling at threads from a very complex knot.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:50:05pm

Rep. Ted Lieu is on it.

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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:51:25pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:51:42pm

re: #223 makeitstop

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I did not know that about Montel Williams.

Cool.

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Jay C  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:51:45pm

re: #214 makeitstop

Is this guy a Republican?

[Embedded content]

Yep.

Cong. Carlos Curbelo, (R- FL-26)

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:52:07pm

re: #225 Dr Lizardo

Rep. Ted Lieu is on it.

Not sure how to do it, but somehow all or part of the DOJ needs to become part of the legislative branch.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:52:36pm

re: #225 Dr Lizardo

NEW: Maria Butina, Russian who reached out to the NRA, just got indicted for acting as a Russian agent without registering. @timkmak has done great reporting on her: thedailybeast.com

Betsy Woodruff

Yeah I was wondering what the actual charge was.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:52:58pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:53:36pm

re: #228 Jay C

Yep.

Cong. Carlos Curbelo, (R- FL-26)

is this the GOP finally starting to turn on GOP to save their own asses like they did with Nixon in 1974?

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makeitstop  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:53:51pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:54:37pm

re: #223 makeitstop

Pence:
“Montel, what the world saw, what the American people saw, what we all saw, was the greatest MAGA president there’s ever been just being a great MAGA president on stage with the head of Russia who was very cordial to him, said very good things about our MAGA president that’s what the world saw, that’s what the American people saw.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:54:41pm

re: #226 lawhawk

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You’re a disgrace, Donnie. You’re Vlad’s chew toy that he left in our yard.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:54:47pm

I’m reading so many takes that boil down to “HOLY SHIT!!!”

So many people saying this is worse than they could have imagined. Once again, we suffer from failure of the imagination.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:55:28pm

re: #236 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m reading so many takes that boil down to “HOLY SHIT!!!”

So many people saying this is worse than they could have imagined. Once again, we suffer from failure of the imagination.

because reality has been so weird lately we have not needed it

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:55:45pm

re: #236 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m reading so many takes that boil down to “HOLY SHIT!!!”

So many people saying this is worse than they could have imagined. Once again, we suffer from failure of the imagination.

Pence:

“Look, what the world saw, what the American people saw…..”

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:56:08pm

“…Asked to choose between the verbal assurances of the Russian president (a former KGB officer who has lied about all offensive cyberoperations against the West) and the detailed reports of U.S. intelligence agencies (as well as the repeated testimony of his own entire national security team), Trump chose the Russian spy.
…….
Trump also said, looking at Putin, “I’m sure we will be meeting again in the future—often.” So the opportunities to cave are not exhausted. What will Trump’s top advisers do in the meantime? “

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:56:19pm

re: #224 austin_blue

Bingo! Hackers, crackers, money launderers, influence peddlers, &c.

Mueller is pulling at threads from a very complex knot.

Sometimes I hate when folks want to rush him, though I get why and I get the urge. This thing seems so damn complex that I’m actually surprised we’ve gotten so much already.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:56:29pm

For two days we heard that the 12 indictments were useless because we could never get our hands on the Russians involved

And then it turns it that we have a Russian in hand. Fun!

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ipsos  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:56:41pm

And still…

STILL…

there has not been one single bit of “news” coming out of any of these bombshell developments that should come as any kind of surprise to anyone who watched Hillary’s speeches in 2016, read David Cay Johnston or Sarah Kendzior or JJ MacNab, etc.

NOBODY can claim they’re surprised by any of this.

IF they were paying attention.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:57:06pm

re: #236 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m reading so many takes that boil down to “HOLY SHIT!!!”

So many people saying this is worse than they could have imagined. Once again, we suffer from failure of the imagination.

Because so many people would have to imagine their hand in what led up to today.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:57:23pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:57:39pm

re: #239 jaunte

Trump also said, looking at Putin, “I’m sure we will be meeting again in the future—often.” So the opportunities to cave are not exhausted. What will Trump’s top advisers do in the meantime? “

Now that’s tough. Very tough. DJT has been very, very tough on Putin.

////

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mmmirele  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:58:21pm

When I was a teenager in the 1970s I read a potboiler political novel by Allen Drury (who wrote Advise and Consent). It was called Come Nineveh, Come Tyre, and it postulated that a president weak on the lefties and commies could be captured (figuratively)by the Soviet Union. Fast forward about 45 years later, and the capture has happened , it’s by the Russian, in fact, a guy from the KGB. I think Drury would be astonished to see Dems and “lefties” raising hell.

For the record, it wasn’t a good book. It posited the American people turning leftward in a completely unexpected way. I’m just bringing it up because a president being heavily influenced by the Russians has been fiction in the past. Now we’re seeing reality.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:58:37pm

re: #244 jaunte

Last call for Republicans to get off the Treason Train. It’s leaving the station this afternoon. The Trump White House and the NRA are riddled with Russian assets. If you support either, you’re complicit in compromising the security of the United States.

This is also what the findings of the Mueller investigation are going to be about: either act on them or be complicit in his crimes.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:58:55pm

re: #245 Sir John Barron

Now that’s tough. Very tough. DJT has been very, very tough on Putin.

////

I’m almost surprised that he didn’t ask Vlad to confirm how “tough” he’s been on him but I’m guessing Vlad reminded him who is actually boss.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:58:58pm

re: #225 Dr Lizardo

Rep. Ted Lieu is on it.

Why do all these Russian agents keep interfering in Donnie’s campaign for prez?

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 12:59:11pm

re: #242 ipsos

And still…

STILL…

there has not been one single bit of “news” coming out of any of these bombshell developments that should come as any kind of surprise to anyone who watched Hillary’s speeches in 2016, read David Cay Johnston or Sarah Kendzior or JJ MacNab, etc.

NOBODY can claim they’re surprised by any of this.

IF they were paying attention.

No doubt!

I consider myself part of the ‘been knew’ brigade but watching it all unfold still illicits the holy shits.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:00:13pm

re: #248 HappyWarrior

I’m almost surprised that he didn’t ask Vlad to confirm how “tough” he’s been on him but I’m guessing Vlad reminded him who is actually boss.

That would have conflicted with his narrative that he is bringing Peace through Cooperation with Russia

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:00:22pm

re: #241 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

For two days we heard that the 12 indictments were useless because we could never get our hands on the Russians involved

And then it turns it that we have a Russian in hand. Fun!

Next Greenwald: This is a flimsy indictment, DOJ is just persecuting people, do you know how much the Clintons made giving speeches to hedge funds?

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:00:23pm

re: #246 mmmirele

I remember reading that one, too.

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gocart mozart  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:00:50pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:01:14pm

re: #254 gocart mozart

Shite!

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:01:26pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:03:49pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:05:01pm

re: #256 MsJ

Both of them are seeing their vision of the Project For a New American Century (PNAC) being flushed down the crapper in real time. All the effort they made to have the US dominate the world by force; all for naught.

We had our brief moments in the spotlight after Europe self-destructed (after 1945) and again with the collapse of the USSR in the early 90’s, but now we have act and learn to look on ourselves as a major power but not THE dominant power.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:05:55pm
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Jay C  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:06:09pm

re: #232 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

is this the GOP finally starting to turn on GOP to save their own asses like they did with Nixon in 1974?

Dunno: Curbelo seems to be somewhat less of a diehard Trump-humper than some of his colleagues: FL-26 probably has more alligators than voters, and went for Hillary 57-41 in 2016 (though Carlos eked out a modest, but respectable win). Though his wiki notes:

As of January 2018, Curbelo had voted with his party 86.3% of the time so far in the 115th United States Congress.[22] During this same period, he voted with Donald Trump’s positions 83.6% of the time

which by GOP standards these days probably classes him as a RINO…

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:06:29pm

DJT to CoS Kelley: So, how’d I do? What’s the press, the real press, our friends in Congress, what are they saying about today’s MAGA press conference:

Kelly:

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:06:38pm

re: #256 MsJ

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It was the hubris of “End of History” and that crowd that allowed ideas like “shock therapy” for the Russian economy to ascend in the early 90s, thus creating the wild-west atmosphere that encouraged wealth grabs.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:07:26pm

re: #259 jaunte

???????!!!!!!!!!1

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:07:54pm

Trump does not give one single, solitary fuck about America. It means nothing to him, except as a platform for grifting and conning. That background should be understood when wondering how a guy gets his treason on like this.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:08:01pm

Also, thinking of Russian agents or thugs, wouldn’t now be a good time to revisit the death of the former head of RT USA in his DuPont Circle hotel the day before he was to testify to congress a couple of years ago?

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:08:07pm

re: #263 Sir John Barron

“Freedomfest”

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:08:14pm

re: #259 jaunte

She was just a coffee girl, really

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:09:44pm

re: #259 jaunte

Well, like almost all the rest of it, just right out in the open here, waiting for media people to take a look at.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:10:07pm

Adam Schiff:
?

Mariia Butina, a Russian national, has been charged with acting as a surreptitious Russian agent and establishing a secret back channel with the GOP through the NRA.

More likely to come on this; no wonder GOP members of HPSCI refused our request to bring her and others in.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:10:25pm

re: #262 Barefoot Grin

It was the hubris of “End of History” and that crowd that allowed ideas like “shock therapy” for the Russian economy to ascend in the early 90s, thus creating the wild-west atmosphere that encouraged wealth grabs.

I was in Russia when that chaos was going down…watched the Ruble go from 40 per dollar to over 600 in a year and a half…when it reached 700 they just dropped two zeros…now it is back up over 60 again.

For that, I had a two-room furnished apartment in a nice part of town (Tushino) near the Metro station for $100 per month…

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gocart mozart  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:11:00pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:11:12pm

re: #269 jaunte

Adam Schiff:
?

Adam, what the world saw, what Americans saw, what my friends in Indiana saw…..

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:11:23pm

re: #269 jaunte

Adam Schiff:
?

??!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:12:16pm

re: #273 Sir John Barron

??!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!

“…and others.”

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:12:20pm

re: #273 Sir John Barron

Lots of rot.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:13:08pm

Any GLOW fans in?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:13:45pm

Butina is fairly young and attractive. Would I be nuts in thinking that one of these right wingers had an affair with her?

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:14:01pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:14:19pm

re: #276 Dr. Matt

SMOTI is helping spread Russian propaganda

PUTIN DROPS BOMB AT HELSINKI PRESSER: Says US Intelligence Helped Move $400,000,000 to HILLARY Campaign!! (VIDEO)

I’m gonna go out on a limb here, just really crazy, and say that SMOTI is full of shister here.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:14:22pm

re: #276 Dr. Matt

SMOTI is helping spread Russian propaganda

PUTIN DROPS BOMB AT HELSINKI PRESSER: Says US Intelligence Helped Move $400,000,000 to HILLARY Campaign!! (VIDEO)

And you believe him, Jim. God you really are SMOTI.

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:14:30pm
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wrenchwench  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:14:40pm

re: #264 JordanRules

Trump does not give one single, solitary fuck about America. It means nothing to him, except as a platform for grifting and conning. That background should be understood when wondering how a guy gets his treason on like this.

Except for the dollars. The most beautiful dollars anywhere. Sooo many dollars. He has the biggest collection…

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whitebeach  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:14:47pm

All I have on this is a medical question: Do we give major courses of antibiotics to American presidents who are going to foreign countries to lick Russians’ anuses for three hours?

I certainly hope not.

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wrenchwench  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:15:35pm

re: #278 HappyWarrior

Butina is fairly young and attractive. Would I be nuts in thinking that one of these right wingers had an affair with her?

On video…

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:15:47pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:15:51pm

re: #276 Dr. Matt

SMOTI is helping spread Russian propaganda

PUTIN DROPS BOMB AT HELSINKI PRESSER: Says US Intelligence Helped Move $400,000,000 to HILLARY Campaign!! (VIDEO)

Of course, before we get started, let’s all agree that Putin is a completely 100% valid unimpeachable source of info and would never lie ever.

/

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:15:58pm
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makeitstop  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:16:16pm

re: #285 wrenchwench

On video…

If I had to bet - Nunes.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:16:33pm

re: #288 jaunte

release the mem

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:17:00pm

re: #288 jaunte

Have a nice time in jail ms. Russia

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Chrysicat  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:17:02pm
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makeitstop  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:17:54pm

Don’t look now, but it seems the Russians were making Trump’s cabinet picks…

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:18:06pm

re: #278 HappyWarrior

Butina is fairly young and attractive. Would I be nuts in thinking that one of these right wingers had an affair with her?

There’s some honeypottin’ going on somewhere in this whole mess that’s for sure. It’s a tried and true technique.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:18:24pm

re: #282 MsJ

Rinse is in a witness protection program I bet

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:20:04pm

re: #293 makeitstop

Don’t look now, but it seems the Russians were making Trump’s cabinet picks…

Hmmm, I kind of doubt Mittens was ever a contender for SoS. I remember the dinner he and Orange had and the scuttlebutt about an appointment but this sounds like a stretch.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:20:21pm

re: #288 jaunte

Watch Putin arrest some Americans as tit for tat. Then let’s see what our President has to say.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:21:08pm

re: #297 Unshaken Defiance

Watch Putin arrest some Americans as tit for tat. Then let’s see what our President has to say.

“The U.S. is being very stupid. We had a great summit. Very good relations, the best relations. “

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:21:56pm

re: #288 jaunte

They can’t let her out on bail. She’s too much of a flight risk.

She’ll need to be held in custody until her trial.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:23:01pm

I think it’s about time that intel agencies, the DOD, and allied governments start releasing on all dirt on this asshole. He no long should have security clearance and should no longer be in the White House. This shit is getting real.

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Jay C  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:23:10pm

re: #288 jaunte

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Wowsers! The House Intelligence Committee Dems wanted to question Ms. Burtina, and the Committee Republicans refused?

I know the history of Congressional Committees covering crap up, wasting time on frivolous investigations, derailing serious ones, etc. is pretty -sadly- lengthy, but the 115th’s HPSCI has to take some sort of prize… the booby prize!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:23:19pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:23:57pm

Serious question. If we found Trump as guilty as some imagine, is it life without parole?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:24:36pm

re: #276 Dr. Matt

SMOTI is helping spread Russian propaganda

PUTIN DROPS BOMB AT HELSINKI PRESSER: Says US Intelligence Helped Move $400,000,000 to HILLARY Campaign!! (VIDEO)

$400 Million? SRSLY?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:24:40pm

re: #301 Jay C

Wowsers! The House Intelligence Committee Dems wanted to question Ms. Burtina, and the Committee Republicans refused?

I know the history of Congressional Committees covering crap up, wasting time on frivolous investigations, derailing serious ones, etc. is pretty -sadly- lengthy, but the 115th’s HPSCI has to take some sort of prize… the booby prize!

I wonder if Nunes wants to reconsider his re-election efforts

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makeitstop  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:25:00pm

Nance knew about this woman a while back.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:25:18pm

re: #303 Unshaken Defiance

Serious question. If we found Trump as guilty as some imagine, is it life without parole?

One way ticket to ADA Florence, solitary.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:25:35pm

re: #304 Blind Frog Belly White

$400 Million? SRSLY?

“If it weren’t for the US intelligence agencies, we would have infiltrated so many groups that Hillary would never have received any donation.”

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gocart mozart  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:26:14pm
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makeitstop  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:27:03pm

re: #303 Unshaken Defiance

Serious question. If we found Trump as guilty as some imagine, is it life without parole?

I’d prefer the time-honored sentence, plz.

Televised.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:27:28pm

re: #303 Unshaken Defiance

Serious question. If we found Trump as guilty as some imagine, is it life without parole?

The punishment for Treason is still death AFAIK.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:27:44pm

re: #276 Dr. Matt

SMOTI is helping spread Russian propaganda

PUTIN DROPS BOMB AT HELSINKI PRESSER: Says US Intelligence Helped Move $400,000,000 to HILLARY Campaign!! (VIDEO)

Pretty amazing watch SMOTI and the GOP go all antiwar dot com.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:27:48pm

re: #309 gocart mozart

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Donnie and Vlad’s Country Destroying Reunion.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:29:17pm
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ckkatz  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:29:24pm

re: #240 JordanRules

Sometimes I hate when folks want to rush him, though I get why and I get the urge. This thing seems so damn complex that I’m actually surprised we’ve gotten so much already.

Very true. Also, law, is to some degree, the telling of a story. There is also a need to time things. Each piece needs to be in place assimilated before the next piece can be presented.

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makeitstop  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:29:28pm
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lawhawk  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:29:34pm

re: #306 makeitstop

She was doing the Dana Loesch thing… but for Russia.

Then came over here and imported Russian money/influence peddling, and used the NRA has her base of operations.

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:30:02pm

re: #303 Unshaken Defiance

Serious question. If we found Trump as guilty as some imagine, is it life without parole?

Death by hanging. Isn’t that the sentence for treason?

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makeitstop  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:30:10pm

re: #317 lawhawk

She was doing the Dana Loesch thing… but for Russia.

Then came over here and imported Russian money/influence peddling, and used the NRA has her base of operations.

With a touch of that frizzle-head rifle grad girl.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:30:14pm

re: #157 Dr Lizardo

The NRA Board is probably shitting bricks right now.

Good. I hope those bricks are all pointy corners.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:30:22pm

amazon.com went down about 5 minutes after Prime Day sales went into effect.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:30:29pm

re: #316 makeitstop

Damn, RINO.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:30:45pm

re: #316 makeitstop

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Kiss your senate seat bye then, Jim because the Trump cultists in your state aren’t going to like hearing that.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:30:55pm

Wow…Texas gop congressman Will Hurd goes off

of course he won’t do a damn thing about it.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:32:10pm

re: #320 Jebediah, RBG

Good. I hope those bricks are all pointy corners.

The cool thing about bricks - especially the rectangular ones with pointy corners - is that you can arrange them to spell RICO.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:33:01pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:33:09pm

I keep hoping this really is the Tipping Point. That either people will come to their senses (ie elected ones, the rabble never will) or Mueller will start carpet bombing the news with more indictments and images of campaign members being frog marched to a cop car. Something. has. to. give.

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Chrysicat  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:33:13pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:33:14pm

re: #257 Charles Johnson

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His base:

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Charles Johnson  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:33:16pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:33:36pm

re: #257 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson ?

@Green_Footballs
What Trump did today was so blatant, the only way to make sense of it is to understand this: he believes he’s above the law and will never face any consequences for his traitorous actions. And he’s enjoying rubbing this in our faces.

4:03 PM - Jul 16, 2018

I hope by “our faces” you include the entire Washington DC “machine” is getting the fuck you finger from Trump.

They have never paid attention to all the times he has criticized Washington DC and said they are stupid and he can do better without them.

What? Do they all need to be in the pee tapes to understand he is pissing all over our U.S. Constitution and all the people in our government?

And how the fuck can this asshole that couldn’t run a money machine like a casino even feel like he has any standing to call out anyone?

We’ve known he is the emperor with no cloths…but today he turned to the people that tell him how nice he looks and said “kiss my big orange butt” making it clear there have never been clothes on Trump.

Any support after today is willfully criminally ignorant.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:34:15pm

re: #330 Charles Johnson

Oooooh, DC is ON IT!

/

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:34:35pm

re: #324 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Wow…Texas gop congressman Will Hurd goes off

of course he won’t do a damn thing about it.

Yeah I want actual action. We’ve seen talk like this before from Congressional Republicans before they decide they’re Trump’s party above country.

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BeachDem  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:34:41pm

re: #226 lawhawk

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Was his tweet a case of Eats Shoots and Leaves?

Did he really intend to have a comma between intelligence and people, i.e.

I have GREAT confidence in MY intelligence COMMA people.

Because that would make more yamsense—he does have GREAT confidence in HIS intelligence, even if he’s a party of one.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:35:07pm

re: #326 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

“Well, how were we to know that just because DJT asked for Russia’s help right from a campaign stage that he colluded with Russia and is a Russia suck up?”

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:35:35pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:36:05pm

re: #334 BeachDem

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Was his tweet a case of Eats Shoots and Leaves?

Did he really intend to have a comma between intelligence and people, i.e.

I have GREAT confidence in MY intelligence COMMA people.

Because that would make more yamsense—he does have GREAT confidence in HIS intelligence, even if he’s a party of one.

He needs to be removed now before he can damage us further.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:36:07pm

re: #329 Stanley Sea

His base:

They’re half way over the Grand Canyon sawing off the bridge that took them there.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:36:34pm

re: #329 Stanley Sea

His base:

Don’t call them ‘deplorables’.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:37:06pm

And guess what? Nobody resigned.

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makeitstop  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:37:26pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:37:52pm

re: #334 BeachDem

Was his tweet a case of Eats Shoots and Leaves?

Did he really intend to have a comma between intelligence and people, i.e.

I have GREAT confidence in MY intelligence COMMA people.

Because that would make more yamsense—he does have GREAT confidence in HIS intelligence, even if he’s a party of one.

Wow, that’s super lame even for DJT.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:38:29pm

Fuckin’-A, Lizards, it just keeps getting better and better!

The FBI has obtained wiretaps from Spanish authorities of conversations involving an ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin who met with President Donald Trump’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., during the 2016 US presidential election, Yahoo News reported.

Alexander Torshin is a prominent Russian banker, politician, and gun-rights activist who is closely tied to the National Rifle Association. He has long been on the Spanish government’s radar for his suspected involvement in money laundering and organized crime, and media reports earlier this year indicated that the FBI was investigating whether Torshin used the NRA as a vehicle to funnel Russian money into the election to boost Trump.

José Grinda, who has led investigations by the Spanish government into organized crime in the country, said this week that the FBI had in recent months requested and received transcripts of wiretapped conversations between Torshin and Alexander Romanov, a former Russian banker with connections to the mob who has been convicted of money laundering.

businessinsider.com

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:39:43pm

re: #336 jaunte

That’s what I was saying the other day as well. The only way Trump would have looked tough was to demand that Russia turn over the 12. Since he didn’t - and we knew he wouldn’t - it just looks like what we all knew, that Putin owns him. Those who can deny it were already on Putin’s side. The rest of the country, the barely paying attention part, now gets to see what’s going on.

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Jay C  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:40:03pm

re: #305 Sir John Barron

I wonder if Nunes wants to reconsider his re-election efforts

Well, so far, such polling as has been done shows him moderately ahead with LVs, but in a red rural district like CA-22, he ought to be well in front. However, he has a determined challenger this year, and - despite his Intelligence Committee clownery being the main strike against him, IMO - Trump’s farm-product tariffs are likely to heavily impact the heavily agricultural district: a factor that might get the farmers (mid-size businesses for the most part, I think: these aren’t The Real McCoys) to jump to a Dem who might seem able to help them out with immigration (i.e. farm labor) and export issues better than a GOPer. Maybe.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:40:30pm

re: #318 MsJ

Death by hanging. Isn’t that the sentence for treason?

Still?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:40:31pm

re: #329 Stanley Sea

Because if Hillary had been elected she would have hated America so much she’d have allowed a foreign power to interfere in our elections.

///

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:41:30pm

re: #329 Stanley Sea

His base:

Sure, we betrayed our country and committed murder and gross acts of assault, but we got our candidate elected, so what does it matter? Will we see you at the next Values Voters Summit?

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makeitstop  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:41:42pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:41:43pm

You know what didn’t happen today?

Well, at least I don’t think it happened.

Jim Jordan was going to call for the impeachment of Rob Rosenstein.

Did that get killed by Trump’s actions today? Or, are they just going to lie low for a few days and then get right back at going after Rosenstein?

There is a point where Jordan and his gang are going to be seen as nothing but obstruction and it is Trump that is defeating them. No, I don’t think they are intelligent enough to see it…but it is there.

The facts are starting to make their excuses look weaker and weaker to the point the next stage is many will know it is nothing but a protection of a dangerous president.

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:41:51pm

re: #346 Unshaken Defiance

Still?

If they offered it on PPV, we could erase the national debt.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:41:54pm

re: #130 makeitstop

So…where’s Mitch McConnell hiding today, I wonder?

behind Elaine’s skirts…

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austin_blue  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:42:05pm

re: #340 Blind Frog Belly White

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And guess what? Nobody resigned.

YET.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:42:36pm

Re: Gun babe Butina.
Employees of foreign media organizations are exempt from the agent registration requirement. Her lawyers can cite myriad sources to simply argue that FSB and GRU are now media organizations, and she is therefore exempt.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:42:59pm

re: #349 makeitstop

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His MAGA cult will and that’s what keeps him in. And they need to resign like now. Give all the dirt on him and maybe they can be decent people again.

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:43:13pm
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Kragar  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:43:30pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:44:12pm

re: #357 Kragar

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His base would love gulags for liberals.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:44:13pm

re: #356 MsJ

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Yeah, but they’re gonna be unhappy about it.

So, there’s that.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:44:17pm

re: #354 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Re: Gun babe Burtina.
Employees of foreign media organizations are exempt from the agent registration requirement. Her lawyers can cite myriad sources to simply argue that FSB and GRU are now media organizations, and she is therefore exempt.

Heh. Is there a Russian word for chutzpah?

Because if there isn’t, there damn well should be.

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wrenchwench  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:44:19pm

What’s Trump’s schedule? Is he coming back? Will there be a welcoming party? With bracelets instead of leis to bestow upon the returning?

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:45:00pm

re: #354 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Re: Gun babe Burtina.
Employees of foreign media organizations are exempt from the agent registration requirement. Her lawyers can cite myriad sources to simply argue that FSB and GRU are now media organizations, and she is therefore exempt.

And our peeps most certainly know this too. This was highly orchestrated. The feds don’t usually do ham sandwiches.

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ObserverArt  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:45:13pm

re: #278 HappyWarrior

Butina is fairly young and attractive. Would I be nuts in thinking that one of these right wingers had an affair with her?

Just look for the Republican Congress members that are sweating a whole lot more this afternoon.

And since she has been caught, it might all come out soon.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:46:20pm

re: #362 JordanRules

And our peeps most certainly know this too. This was highly orchestrated. The feds don’t usually do ham sandwiches.

Now the one headline that would make me cheer is if I saw that the NRA was being prosecuted under the RICO law.

And you know what? I’m thinking that’s actually possible.

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makeitstop  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:46:29pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:48:01pm

re: #353 austin_blue

YET.

I really feel like if anybody was going to they would have by now, because it’s exactly that bad. Which illustrates the real problem with the modern GOP and the way Trump has sleadily mutated it into his own personality cult. This is so much worse than the Access Hollywood pussy grabbing tape and yet the Republican response at this point in the news cycle is far more tepid than the same point back then. All we’re getting are some milquetoast statements affirming the US intelligence community’s assessments but no direct condemnations of Trump’s statements and behavior. They’re all shocked and horrified in private, in public they’re cowed.

It’s his party.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:48:12pm
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Kragar  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:48:29pm
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whitebeach  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:48:31pm

re: #358 HappyWarrior

His base would love gulagsdeath camps for liberals.

FIFY.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:49:33pm

re: #358 HappyWarrior

His base would love gulags for liberals.

We have them for the babies of asylum seekers already.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:50:10pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:50:10pm
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Teukka  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:50:16pm
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Jack Burton  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:50:33pm

re: #254 gocart mozart

Mark Hertling
?
@MarkHertling
For those gobsmacked and disgusted by what you just saw, imagine being part of the military leadership in the Pentagon or in Europe, or anywhere in the intelligence community, as you REALLY have information that makes this unfathomable.

Lots of bourbon for them tonight.

THIS. This right here.
One of the things that completely astounds me, is how many people who work in the defense industry, especially in fucking CYBERSECURITY, are MAGAts and think “Trump-Russia” is fake news. I know these people have security clearances and should know much more than random internet guy 345627, and just know better in general.

I work in that industry and the collusion and political interference is so blatantly obvious its glows like a supernova.

The only explanation I have is that hatred of the Clintons is so intense it clouds all judgement.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:50:53pm

re: #370 Unshaken Defiance

We have them for the babies of asylum seekers already.

Those babies are no angels….

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Sir John Barron  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:51:29pm

re: #368 Kragar

Oh Governor TCOT has stuck his nose above the sewer I see.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:51:34pm

re: #327 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I keep hoping this really is the Tipping Point. That either people will come to their senses (ie elected ones, the rabble never will) or Mueller will start carpet bombing the news with more indictments and images of campaign members being frog marched to a cop car. Something. has. to. give.

I see a lot of people starting to waver in GOP ranks, and I am sure that a lot of the rock-solid base is also having second thoughts about making the effort to get out and support DT regardless of what he does

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:51:41pm

And you wonder why we have so many folktales about making a deal with the devil.

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:51:56pm
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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:52:42pm
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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:53:25pm
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ckkatz  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:53:47pm

re: #350 ObserverArt

You know what didn’t happen today?

Well, at least I don’t think it happened.

Jim Jordan was going to call for the impeachment of Rob Rosenstein.

Did that get killed by Trump’s actions today? Or, are they just going to lie low for a few days and then get right back at going after Rosenstein?

There is a point where Jordan and his gang are going to be seen as nothing but obstruction and it is Trump that is defeating them. No, I don’t think they are intelligent enough to see it…but it is there.

The facts are starting to make their excuses look weaker and weaker to the point the next stage is many will know it is nothing but a protection of a dangerous president.

Their political survival is now at stake. Cornered rats can be nasty. I would expect that they will try anything that they can.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:55:03pm

re: #374 Jack Burton

THIS. This right here.
One of the things that completely astounds me, is how many people who work in the defense industry, especially in fucking CYBERSECURITY, are MAGAts and think “Trump-Russia” is fake news. I know these people have security clearances and should know much more than random internet guy 345627, and just know better in general.

I work in that industry and the collusion and political interference is so blatantly obvious its glows like a supernova.

The only explanation I have is that hatred of the Clintons is so intense it clouds all judgement.

The defense industry is full of conservatives because that’s the behavior the industry encourages. And I’m not talking about the “America, love it or leave it kind” but the “stable but unexciting for 30 years” kind of conservatism. There’s nothing that forces these people outside of their comfort zone.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:55:15pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:55:47pm

re: #365 makeitstop

Got to love the irony that Rosenstein and Mueller basically threw Trump a lifeline to cancel this summit and he didn’t take it

Heck, they were criticized for trying to wreck the summit and make DT look bad.

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Jack Burton  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:56:07pm

re: #371 jaunte

Chuck Todd bitching about someone “both sides-ing” an issue is like Trump bitching about someone rambling incoherently while speaking.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:56:13pm

re: #381 JordanRules

Obama and Clinton spoke up in 2016 but so many of you can’t ever listen to women and black people

I CAN’T HEAR YOU OVER THE SOUND OF MY OWN WHITENESS.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:56:36pm

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:56:39pm
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Belafon  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:58:31pm

re: #388 Dr. Matt

Bonnie Wright can play her when the movie comes out.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:58:51pm

re: #368 Kragar

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Nah Greg, he would sell them your state for a cheap hooker tho.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:59:07pm
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EPR-radar  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:59:09pm

re: #246 mmmirele

When I was a teenager in the 1970s I read a potboiler political novel by Allen Drury (who wrote Advise and Consent). It was called Come Nineveh, Come Tyre, and it postulated that a president weak on the lefties and commies could be captured (figuratively)by the Soviet Union. Fast forward about 45 years later, and the capture has happened , it’s by the Russian, in fact, a guy from the KGB. I think Drury would be astonished to see Dems and “lefties” raising hell.

For the record, it wasn’t a good book. It posited the American people turning leftward in a completely unexpected way. I’m just bringing it up because a president being heavily influenced by the Russians has been fiction in the past. Now we’re seeing reality.

Advise and Consent was very good. Then Drury made it into a 6-volume epic of political allegory with predictable results (Come Ninevah, Come Tyre was book 5, IIRC).

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ObserverArt  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:59:30pm

re: #338 Sir John Barron

They’re half way over the Grand Canyon sawing off the bridge that took them there.

That made me think of this old Photoshop…from the way-back machine.

GOP ACME Scandal Kit - WIle E. Coyote - National Chairman
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:59:32pm

re: #384 jaunte

LOL Quelle surprise. They’re panicking; I have zero doubt about that. This story about Butina and her NRA connections is a bombshell.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2018 • 1:59:55pm

re: #384 jaunte

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Dana’s nothing but a cheap NRA toy.

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:00:09pm
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EPR-radar  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:01:12pm

re: #264 JordanRules

Trump does not give one single, solitary fuck about America. It means nothing to him, except as a platform for grifting and conning. That background should be understood when wondering how a guy gets his treason on like this.

This is also true of the entire senior leadership of the Republican party.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:01:47pm

re: #389 JordanRules

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Why do I imagine Ukraine unfortunately becoming a sort of Spain like battlefield for Vlad and maybe even Donald to try our new toys on.

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:02:03pm
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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:02:08pm

Useless.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:03:34pm
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Teukka  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:07:00pm
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makeitstop  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:07:31pm

I get the feeling that a certain former RNC chair is enjoying this.

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ObserverArt  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:09:45pm

re: #381 JordanRules

Oliver Willis ?
@owillis
Obama and Clinton spoke up in 2016 but so many of you can’t ever listen to women and black people

Nice quick left jab to the jaw.

Down goes Lizza!

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makeitstop  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:10:14pm
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Belafon  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:11:25pm

re: #381 JordanRules

The only president this should be focused on is Trump.

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BeachDem  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:11:32pm

re: #342 Sir John Barron

Wow, that’s super lame even for DJT.

I guess I didn’t explain myself clearly. I think he forgot the comma when he said he has great faith in his intelligence people—i.e. he has faith in the FBI etc. I think he really meant to say that he has great faith in his own intelligence.

Obviously, my snark fell as flat as a baby trump balloon without air. Sorry.

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:11:51pm
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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:11:52pm

Oh Chicago. You slay me.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:12:04pm

re: #404 makeitstop

I get the feeling that a certain former RNC chair is enjoying this.

People should use Steele as a way for some Republicans to get out.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:13:06pm

I think it should be repeated, even though I’ve said it before:

There are plenty of social conservatives and reactionaries that view a large number of US citizens as Not American because they don’t comply with the narrow definition of American they apply…which exist entirely separate from the on-the-books laws and equal franchise and civil liberty.

These same people adore the Russian Federation because its mix of social conservatism and authoritarianism with a nationalist bent reflects what they want out of society.

These folks won’t care about interference in an election because they view it as a correction of a system that is Wrong because it allows dissent from their positions.

Don’t assume this is all about kompromat and assets. The cultural link-up of Russia and US reactionaries has been occurring quite openly. The kleptocrats have been associating with one another openly. There are people in both the base and in office who simply view the RF’s system as superior to democracy for their purposes.

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EPR-radar  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:13:14pm

re: #406 makeitstop

Hanging for treason would stretch the neck on that turtle nicely.

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whitebeach  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:17:24pm

re: #410 MsJ

Oh Chicago. You slay me.

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WTF do they put on their french fries, mayonnaise?

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:17:27pm
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terraincognita  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:17:59pm

re: #402 jaunte

Comrade Walker, I see this association is beginning to break with the Milwaukee news. I advise a quick trip to the Russian bureau in Chicago for your necessary blank visa papers.

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:18:14pm

Read this whole thread…

But, holy shit…

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:18:24pm

re: #406 makeitstop

Mitch McConnell has made it his life’s work to create a permanent conservative majority in US government. He’s always been shifty and good at hacking procedure to get what he wants. He’s one of the ones that’s both cynically venal and idealistically authoritarian, so a flawed democracy with weakened accountability is win-win.

If there’s a single person that absolutely would do stuff without being extorted, it’s him. He’s already demonstrated complete contempt for good order to achieve court-packing. The end justifies the means, so he’ll cover for any bad (R) behavior, no matter what, until he gets his checklist.

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:18:30pm
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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:19:21pm

re: #414 whitebeach

WTF do they put on their french fries, mayonnaise?

Beats me. Everyone I know uses ketchup. I don’t like ketchup, myself. And I prefer mayo with fries.

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ckkatz  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:22:17pm

re: #406 makeitstop

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re: #406 makeitstop

Regrettably, I suspect that Mueller, in choosing his battles carefully, needs McConnell more as a friend (or at least quiet) than as an enemy.

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uncah91  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:22:45pm

I just sent the following to the sane(r) Senator in my state:

Dear Senator Burr,

As a citizen of the great state of North Carolina and one of your many constituents, I ask that you consider my entreaty and respond to my inquiries.

As chairman of the Select Committee on Intelligence, you should have a clear eyed view of what is going on. President Donald Trump is threatening the strength of each of our alliances and is now weakly professing to believe the autocratic president of Russia over all evidence and reason.

Our democracy depends on free and fair elections. Russian interference cannot be allowed to go unpunished, let alone unacknowledged, nay repudiated, by our own President. A corrosive and invidious poison is seeping its way through both the Republican party, its current governance, and the nation as a whole.

This state of affairs, and specifically the events of today, should shock you. It should shock you from any complacency you have about the state of the executive branch. It should shock you from any notions that the situation is minor and merely aesthetic. It should disabuse you of any notion that the situation can be considered “manageable”. It should shock you into consideration that the party of which you are member cannot adequately respond to the situation as it to has been corrupted and co-opted into deference to a cult of personality.

You must ask your self, as a man of conscious, what will you do? Do you believe that the leadership of your party is allowing adequate response to the crisis? That even a plurality of your party’s members in the Congress will allow, nay demand, an adequate response?

Each day the administration and the President reveal new depths of their dangerous, callous, feckless desire to govern not in service of the United States, but in their own private interest.

You cannot adequately respond from within your own party. Heed the example of those before who have followed their conscience and declared their independence. Caucus with the Democrats. Urge other members of your party to do so as well, in both the House and the Senate.

If not this, that what remedy can adequately address such perfidy?

Respectfully,
uncah91

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makeitstop  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:22:55pm

This woman sure did get around.

I’m wondering how many of those ‘good Christian men’ are notches on her bedpost, so to speak?

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:23:34pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:24:18pm

Does everyone remember this image?

It takes on new meaning today.

And I think that one of the women in the back that are unidentified in the image might be Ms. Butina.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:24:27pm
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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:26:13pm

re: #422 uncah91

I just sent the following to the sane(r) Senator in my state:

Very well done.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:30:50pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:31:19pm
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BeachDem  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:32:18pm

re: #422 uncah91

I just sent the following to the sane(r) Senator in my state:

A friend in Arizona asked me to draft a similar letter for her to McCain and Flake. Here’s what I wrote.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:32:39pm

Another facebook shitshow: One “friend” called the other friend (who is late 60s and currently fighting metastatic lung cancer) “unAmerican” because she posted a joke about Melanie’s drape-like dress. FFS. I really hate Trump cultists.

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:33:26pm

Newt haz a sad.

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gocart mozart  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:33:47pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:33:55pm

re: #361 wrenchwench

What’s Trump’s schedule? Is he coming back? Will there be a welcoming party? With bracelets instead of leis to bestow upon the returning?

I expect he’s scheduling another one of his Nazi rallies.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:34:12pm
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makeitstop  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:34:37pm

re: #432 MsJ

President Trump must clarify his statements in Helsinki on our intelligence system and Putin. It is the most serious mistake of his presidency and must be corrected—-immediately.

Narrator: It wasn’t a mistake.

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wrenchwench  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:35:12pm

re: #431 Dr. Matt

Another facebook shitshow: One “friend” called the other friend (who is late 60s and currently fighting metastatic lung cancer) “unAmerican” because she posted a joke about Melanie’s drape-like dress. FFS. I really hate Trump cultists.

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I thought I saw Melania in a photo from today, wearing a pee coat. Same color as that dress.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:35:14pm

re: #409 JordanRules

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:35:18pm
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EPR-radar  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:35:34pm

re: #432 MsJ

Newt haz a sad.

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In other words, Newt sees that Trump is getting bad press for this, and wants Trump to tell more believable lies.

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:36:33pm

LOL

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Dr. Matt  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:36:37pm

re: #432 MsJ

Newt haz a sad.

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How long will it take before Newt issues a public apology to Dear Leader? I’m guessing less than 7 hours.

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austin_blue  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:36:47pm

re: #417 MsJ

Read this whole thread…

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Wow. That’s pretty damning for the NRA, isn’t it?

Good!

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Chrysicat  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:37:15pm

HOW IN HEAVEN’S NAME DOES THE DOW RISE AS TRUMP ACTIVELY COMMITS TREASON ON WORLDWIDE TELEVISION?!?

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wrenchwench  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:37:30pm

re: #435 goddamnedfrank

[… who are trying to understand what world our idiot president lives in.]

—bernie

There’s only one world. We all live in it. Bernie has no understanding.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:37:38pm

re: #435 goddamnedfrank

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:38:20pm

re: #433 gocart mozart

It’s nice she has that flaming red hair. Kinda hard to hide (granted, it shows as brunette sometimes).

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ObserverArt  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:39:08pm

re: #440 EPR-radar

In other words, Newt sees that Trump is getting bad press for this, and wants Trump to tell more believable lies.

Trump is making Newt look bad.

Imagine that…someone that can make Newt look bad. That takes some doing. But The Don is on it.

And Newt knows the amount of Trump butt he kissed isn’t worth what he was paid.

Future earnings are at stake.

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Lang1  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:39:42pm

Much as I would like to think we’ll take back Congress, what’s to stop Putin and his associates from meddling again? They were able to do it before, there’s no reason they’ll develop a conscience and let us decide this time around.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:40:29pm

A day old, but worth RTing

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wrenchwench  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:40:30pm

re: #449 Lang1

Much as I would like to think we’ll take back Congress, what’s to stop Putin and his associates from meddling again? They were able to do it before, there’s no reason they’ll develop a conscience and let us decide this time around.

Greetings, hatchling.

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:41:09pm

re: #444 Chrysicat

HOW IN HEAVEN’S NAME DOES THE DOW RISE AS TRUMP ACTIVELY COMMITS TREASON ON WORLDWIDE TELEVISION?!?

I’ve been asking that for a week.

Hubby says it’s because the US is largely a services economy and it’s not hurting that (yet).

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Skip Intro  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:41:22pm

re: #414 whitebeach

WTF do they put on their french fries, mayonnaise?

Salt.

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gocart mozart  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:41:42pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:42:18pm

re: #449 Lang1

Greetings! I gotta hope by stepping up our defenses at every layer, every hub and point of contact. Hit the streets and up the winning margin above the influence of the manipulators. They are only effective in close elections.

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:42:32pm

re: #449 Lang1

Much as I would like to think we’ll take back Congress, what’s to stop Putin and his associates from meddling again? They were able to do it before, there’s no reason they’ll develop a conscience and let us decide this time around.

Nothing. Not a goddamned thing.

I actually expect it.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:43:49pm

THIS asshole is back at it again….

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:43:55pm

re: #449 Lang1

Much as I would like to think we’ll take back Congress, what’s to stop Putin and his associates from meddling again? They were able to do it before, there’s no reason they’ll develop a conscience and let us decide this time around.

Same statement, replace “Putin and his associates” with “state-level GOP politicians engaged in voter suppression.”

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:45:02pm
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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:45:16pm
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danarchy  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:45:19pm

Treason requires actually taking up arms against the US or giving aid and comfort to the enemy in wartime. Short of that it is something else. Espionage, money laundering, campaign finance violations etc.

It may be pedantic, but if we are talking about hanging people, we should probably have the law right.

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SteelPH  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:45:48pm

re: #458 The Ghost of a Flea

Same statement, replace “Putin and his associates” with “state-level GOP politicians engaged in voter suppression.”

And armed folks looking to take out people “committing voter fraud.” i.e. minorities

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:46:21pm

When war is waged against you, it isn’t war unless you’re aware of it?

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wrenchwench  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:46:55pm

re: #456 MsJ

re: #449 Lang1

Much as I would like to think we’ll take back Congress, what’s to stop Putin and his associates from meddling again? They were able to do it before, there’s no reason they’ll develop a conscience and let us decide this time around.

Nothing. Not a goddamned thing.

I actually expect it.

There’s no conscience. There’s no ‘let us decide’. There is, as Unshaken Defiance said above you, our defenses, and our bigger (than 2016) margins. And a certain amount of ‘woke’ to go with.

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:47:40pm

re: #452 MsJ

I’ve been asking that for a week.

Hubby says it’s because the US is largely a services economy and it’s not hurting that (yet).

Yeah I really think it is just a matter of yet.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:47:59pm

re: #456 MsJ

Nothing. Not a goddamned thing.

I actually expect it.

BINGO. But, if/when the Democrats take over one or both chambers they can stop/slow down the Russian Asset INSIDE the White House. They can spend every waking moment holding hearings and investigations to undercover the deep and severe corruption in the GOP from the top down.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:48:24pm

re: #461 danarchy

Treason requires actually taking up arms against the US or giving aid and comfort to the enemy in wartime. Short of that it is something else. Espionage, money laundering, campaign finance violations etc.

It may be pedantic, but if we are talking about hanging people, we should probably have the law right.

Okay so given the presumed other charges at hand, if guilty what then as maximum?

Earlier to Gus

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EPR-radar  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:48:34pm

re: #461 danarchy

Treason requires actually taking up arms against the US or giving aid and comfort to the enemy in wartime. Short of that it is something else. Espionage, money laundering, campaign finance violations etc.

It may be pedantic, but if we are talking about hanging people, we should probably have the law right.

Espionage can be a capital federal crime. Sometimes I like to tease myself by imagining the strain on the DC municipal sewer system if every Federal-level Republican that deserves to face a capital espionage trial were actually charged with that, all on the same day.

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EPR-radar  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:49:57pm

re: #464 wrenchwench

There’s no conscience. There’s no ‘let us decide’. There is, as Unshaken Defiance said above you, our defenses, and our bigger (than 2016) margins. And a certain amount of ‘woke’ to go with.

The only good Republican official is a Republican official that’s part of a small enough minority that they can no longer fuck things up.

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:50:17pm

re: #461 danarchy

Treason requires actually taking up arms against the US or giving aid and comfort to the enemy in wartime. Short of that it is something else. Espionage, money laundering, campaign finance violations etc.

It may be pedantic, but if we are talking about hanging people, we should probably have the law right.

When I use it, most of the time I’m using the general definition, not the legal one. These folks have betrayed their country.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:51:37pm

I don’t want to hang Trump, I want to lock him up in a small room with a view of a golf course and a McDonald’s.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:52:35pm
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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:53:12pm
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Jack Burton  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:53:21pm

re: #435 goddamnedfrank

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His campaign manager was suspiciously involved with Paul Manafort and Sergey Kisylak as well from what I’ve been hearing.

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austin_blue  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:54:07pm

re: #461 danarchy

Treason requires actually taking up arms against the US or giving aid and comfort to the enemy in wartime. Short of that it is something else. Espionage, money laundering, campaign finance violations etc.

It may be pedantic, but if we are talking about hanging people, we should probably have the law right.

Not all wars are fought with rifles. Some are fought with computers. Like this one.

It’s still war.

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wrenchwench  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:54:13pm

re: #469 EPR-radar

The only good Republican official is a Republican official that’s part of a small enough minority that they can no longer fuck things up.

That day will come. I don’t know when, but I know it will.

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Skip Intro  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:55:04pm

re: #456 MsJ

Nothing. Not a goddamned thing.

I actually expect it.

It’s well under way already, I’m sure.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:56:43pm

Here is some local news by way of WHYYY/NPR:
whyy.org
These officials are not happy and something might be happening sooner rather than later.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:57:29pm

Future generations will never believe any of this happened.

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danarchy  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:57:29pm

re: #468 EPR-radar

Espionage can be a capital federal crime. Sometimes I like to tease myself by imagining the strain on the DC municipal sewer system if every Federal-level Republican that deserves to face a capital espionage trial were actually charged with that, all on the same day.

Unfortunately, I think you would be hard pressed to charge the president with espionage either. Since the president is in charge of foreign policy and has pretty much complete discretion over classified information, when he does it it is just a really bad policy change. Better off following the money and getting him on those issues

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:58:24pm

re: #475 austin_blue

Not all wars are fought with rifles. Some are fought with computers. Like this one.

It’s still war.

Putin is pretending they’re “mercenaries” but Russians and Americans have been shooting at each other.

Braga’s forces repelled the surprise assault from the pro-Bashar al-Assad fighters and the Russian private military contractors. The Feb. 7 clash was the first time in 50 years that Americans and Russians have engaged in direct combat.
nbcnews.com

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:58:49pm

Evening Lizardim.

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wrenchwench  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:59:37pm

re: #479 Dr. Matt

Future generations will never believe any of this happened.

Future generations won’t believe how long it took US to believe it.

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danarchy  Jul 16, 2018 • 2:59:40pm

re: #475 austin_blue

Not all wars are fought with rifles. Some are fought with computers. Like this one.

It’s still war.

It isn’t war until congress declares it war…good luck making that happen.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:00:58pm

re: #475 austin_blue

Not all wars are fought with rifles. Some are fought with computers. Like this one.

It’s still war.

Undeclared though. For actual formal charges maybe not gonna fly but in a non legal sense, say a political betrayal of American interests in favor of Russia, or personal gain is probably good for a long stretch, if not of his neck.

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wrenchwench  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:03:01pm

re: #485 Unshaken Defiance

Undeclared though.

In the Koreas, it’s STILL a ‘police action’.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:03:13pm

re: #485 Unshaken Defiance

Undeclared though.

Exactly.
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Just like the war on Christmas. //

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:03:27pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:04:24pm

re: #488 jaunte

Very interesting and telling.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:05:49pm

WHO WILL STOP HIM?

“not me”, said the little red hen

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:05:57pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:07:12pm
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William Lewis  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:07:38pm

re: #461 danarchy

Treason requires actually taking up arms against the US or giving aid and comfort to the enemy in wartime. Short of that it is something else. Espionage, money laundering, campaign finance violations etc.

It may be pedantic, but if we are talking about hanging people, we should probably have the law right.

Nope. Article 3 Section 3: “Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.”

One: The Russians committed several acts of war during the 2016 election season.
Two: These acts of war show that the Russian Federation is a defacto enemy of the US.
Three: Trump and the GOP have been performing actions giving them “Aid and Comfort” to these enemies.
Four: Trump admitted said treason on international TV and is probably stupid enough to do so in open court.

We can use the same gurney they strapped Timothy McVeigh down on.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:09:08pm
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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:09:20pm
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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:09:21pm

An idiot and a coward.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:09:26pm

re: #490 dog philosopher ????

“Not me,” said the the scheming turtle and the spineless man.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:09:51pm

re: #492 Patricia Kayden

And DT was the one who penned the press so that so-called people like this troll can spread their filth and very few can stop them.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:10:40pm

The forms of war and the forms of propaganda through social media have outstripped our legal system’s defenses.

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ObserverArt  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:10:40pm

Just saw this on Ari Melber’s show.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:10:49pm

When you lose Fox “news”…..

Facebook

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danarchy  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:11:28pm

re: #493 William Lewis

Nope. Article 3 Section 3: “Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.”

One: The Russians committed several acts of war during the 2016 election season.
Two: These acts of war show that the Russian Federation is a defacto enemy of the US.
Three: Trump and the GOP have been performing actions giving them “Aid and Comfort” to these enemies.
Four: Trump admitted said treason on international TV and is probably stupid enough to do so in open court.

We can use the same gurney they strapped Timothy McVeigh down on.

In Cramer vs. US, the Supreme Court constrained that second part to wartime as well.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:11:50pm

re: #495 MsJ

Ask him what he would have done if Iran had hacked our political databases and colluded with Secretary Clinton to win an election? We’ve never fought a war against Iran but I bet his answer would be much different. And the Cold War was a war.

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jaunte  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:12:06pm

Bumpstocks make it not an automatic weapon.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:12:22pm

Amazon is still hammered on Prime Day. Don’t know if it’s because their servers can’t handle the traffic or the Russians DDOS’ed ‘em. Probably both.

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:12:40pm

re: #501 Dr. Matt

When you lose Fox “news”…..

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…You only lose them for about a 20 minute segment.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:13:49pm

re: #506 JordanRules

…You only lose them for about a 20 minute segment.

Touche’

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Skip Intro  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:14:13pm

re: #501 Dr. Matt

When you lose Fox “news”…..

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He hasn’t “lost” Fox “News”. He never will until Rupert says so.

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:14:45pm

re: #505 The Vicious Babushka

Amazon is still hammered on Prime Day. Don’t know if it’s because their servers can’t handle the traffic or the Russians DDOS’ed ‘em. Probably both.

They should have Amazon Web Services spin up some more servers for them. LOL

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Skip Intro  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:15:04pm

re: #505 The Vicious Babushka

I got on, didn’t see a damn thing I wanted. It’s always like that for me on these sales.

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William Lewis  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:15:17pm

re: #502 danarchy

In Cramer vs. US, the Supreme Court constrained that second part to wartime as well.

Then the argument is that the acts of war, like the Japanese attacks of Dec 7, 1941, were an inherent declaration of war and that such a state of war is in existence between the US and the Russian Federation, no matter the inaction of the traitors in the GOP.

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danarchy  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:16:35pm

re: #511 William Lewis

Then the argument is that the acts of war, like the Japanese attacks of Dec 7, 1941, were an inherent declaration of war and that such a state of war is in existence between the US and the Russian Federation, no matter the inaction of the traitors in the GOP.

It would be an interesting argument, think getting them on financial crimes would be a lot easier in the end.

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:16:56pm

re: #503 Patricia Kayden

Ask him what he would have done if Iran had hacked our political databases and colluded with Secretary Clinton to win an election? We’ve never fought a war against Iran but I bet his answer would be much different. And the Cold War was a war.

Gus is a good guy. No way he would side with Iran and I’m certain he was in the Clinton camp. I’m sure we’re discussing legalities and semantics. I just disagree with him.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:17:03pm

Bottom line: Trump doesn’t care about America. He only cares about Trump.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:17:37pm

re: #505 The Vicious Babushka

Amazon is still hammered on Prime Day. Don’t know if it’s because their servers can’t handle the traffic or the Russians DDOS’ed ‘em. Probably both.

It’s tomorrow as well? I tried to sign in & couldn’t.

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:17:38pm

re: #505 The Vicious Babushka

Amazon is still hammered on Prime Day. Don’t know if it’s because their servers can’t handle the traffic or the Russians DDOS’ed ‘em. Probably both.

I gave up. Divine intervention telling me to stop spending money.

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:17:55pm

re: #513 MsJ

Gus is a good guy. No way he would side with Iran and I’m certain he was in the Clinton camp. I’m sure we’re discussing legalities and semantics. I just disagree with him.

He definitely is.

He might have changed his mind after today. Looks like that tweet was before the summit.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:18:28pm

Boom.

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:18:31pm

re: #509 JordanRules

They should have Amazon Web Services spin up some more servers for them. LOL

This makes Amazon look really bad.

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:19:35pm

Anybody ever heard of this Paul fella?

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:20:13pm

re: #519 MsJ

This makes Amazon look really bad.

It really does. I couldn’t resist the irony.

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danarchy  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:20:25pm

re: #519 MsJ

This makes Amazon look really bad.

I’ve been on and off amazon all day, even ordered a couple things, haven’t seen any issues from here.

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ObserverArt  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:20:38pm

re: #519 MsJ

This makes Amazon look really bad.

Maybe Trump has the Russians meddling with Amazon’s servers to make them look bad.

Am I joking? I don’t know!

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:21:19pm

re: #517 JordanRules

He definitely is.

He might have changed his mind after today. Looks like that tweet was before the summit.

I don’t know. If you believe treason requires war I doubt that today will change his mind. IIRC, Gus is ex-military.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:21:58pm
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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:24:08pm

re: #521 JordanRules

It really does. I couldn’t resist the irony.

re: #523 ObserverArt

Maybe Trump has the Russians meddling with Amazon’s servers to make them look bad.

Am I joking? I don’t know!

They offer a web service. As does Microsoft. If you were a business looking for those services, which would you choose?

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:26:17pm

re: #524 MsJ

I don’t know. If you believe treason requires war I doubt that today will change his mind. IIRC, Gus is ex-military.

Ahhh. Yeah, if he’s ex military he might be less inclined to stretch into accepting that. But the attack coming from GRU pushed a lot of people like that over to seeing it as an act of war.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:30:12pm

re: #525 Patricia Kayden

This is what it reduces down to: there is a percentage of this country that sees any method of attaining hegemony as legitimate.

The political culture of the US right has made it central to their beliefs that all manifestations of liberal are an existential threat. Not just an annoyance, or wrong/wrong (inaccurate/immoral), but malicious and intent upon harm.

People keep saying “this is not normal” but what’s going on is a natural extension of what’s been “normal” for fifty, sixty years: pundits announcing that any expansion of norms is the vanguard of an attempt to destroy society and institute one or more forms of depravity.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:30:29pm

re: #516 MsJ

I gave up. Divine intervention telling me to stop spending money.

I’m on a fantastic roll. New sofa and bed coming soon!!! I need to hit some thrift stores etc., for a dresser. Hope to find something funky.

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:30:57pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:31:11pm

re: #321 The Vicious Babushka

amazon.com went down about 5 minutes after Prime Day sales went into effect.

It’s been glitchy as hell for me all afternoon.

re: #510 Skip Intro

I got on, didn’t see a damn thing I wanted. It’s always like that for me on these sales.

There’s a Gourmia sous vide cooker deal scheduled for 5:45pm that I’m considering but that’s it.

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:32:06pm
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Teukka  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:32:33pm

re: #531 goddamnedfrank

It’s been glitchy as hell for me all afternoon.

There’s a Gourmia sous vide cooker deal scheduled for 5:45pm that I’m considering but that’s it.

I try it and it presents a CAPTCHA first thing.

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:32:34pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:33:32pm

re: #532 MsJ

So he’s still ok with Putin owning Trump.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:34:13pm

So there’s a bunch of progressive whataboutism about how US intelligence are bad actors and have messed in elections.

And it’s making me crazy because the current path…further politicization of intelligence, aligning with a regional power that’s doing Dulles-brother-level shady shit…suggests that unless this issue is nipped in the bud, our intelligence services are likely to get even dirtier and more suspect.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:34:25pm

re: #493 William Lewis

We can use the same gurney they strapped Timothy McVeigh down on.

Nice touch.

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:34:27pm

This is all fucking absurd.

LOL
It’s nervous laughter.
WTF

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:36:41pm

re: #529 Stanley Sea

I’m on a fantastic roll. New sofa and bed coming soon!!! I need to hit some thrift stores etc., for a dresser. Hope to find something funky.

eBay, too. I got two great pieces for cheap.

One was an antique that the people I got it from wanted to sell to someone who’d love it like his mom did (these folks were easily in their 80s, so Mom likely had it since the 1800s). We wrapped it in blankets and shrink wrap and they were delighted. $280.00

For another dresser for $35. Simple but really cool looking.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:36:45pm

re: #536 The Ghost of a Flea

I don’t see why anyone who knows about what the CIA has done wrong would view what the RF is doing right now as okay. It’s the same fucking playbook.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:37:39pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:38:11pm

re: #505 The Vicious Babushka

Amazon is still hammered on Prime Day. Don’t know if it’s because their servers can’t handle the traffic or the Russians DDOS’ed ‘em. Probably both.

Something’s really fucked up because damn near every large site runs on Amazon Cloud Services.

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blueraven  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:39:32pm

Trump couldn’t have been clearer today with his message to Putin; There is nothing to stop them from interfering with our elections. In fact, he encourages their help.

If we don’t take, at least, The House in the mid terms, and he wins re-election in 2020, it is game over for America.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:39:49pm

re: #538 JordanRules

Perhaps he can stay there. His next door neighbor and the rest of us would be glad to see him go. Useless troll.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:40:03pm

re: #449 Lang1

Much as I would like to think we’ll take back Congress, what’s to stop Putin and his associates from meddling again? They were able to do it before, there’s no reason they’ll develop a conscience and let us decide this time around.

There’s no guarantee. But, unlike 2016, and what’s been happening in 2017 and 2018 is a so many people are voting that it’s making it harder to play the margins. It’s not going to be easy for us, to be sure, especially with gerrymandering, but we have a better shot than before.

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:41:05pm

re: #535 Skip Intro

So he’s still ok with Putin owning Trump.

I get the idea he’s not.

It’s like how Walsh is still a tea partier but he quit the GOP.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:41:26pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:41:28pm

Damn. Afscme was at my front door and they want to talk to me about the Janus verdict.
Grrr

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electrotek  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:42:52pm

So has the right-wing turned against Trump yet?

550
JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:42:58pm

re: #542 goddamnedfrank

Something’s really fucked up because damn near every large site runs on Amazon Cloud Services.

Yup, but I’m only hearing about issues with Amazon’s site. Interesting. Didn’t expect it to still be hinky hours later.

551
PhillyPretzel  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:43:51pm

re: #550 JordanRules

I was able to sign in and look at a few things.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:44:27pm

re: #549 electrotek

So has the right-wing turned against Trump yet?

They’re trying to thread the needle of not acknowledging their bastard offspring but continue fucking their mistress.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:44:31pm

re: #461 danarchy

Treason requires actually taking up arms against the US or giving aid and comfort to the enemy in wartime. Short of that it is something else. Espionage, money laundering, campaign finance violations etc.

It may be pedantic, but if we are talking about hanging people, we should probably have the law right.

We were attacked by the military of a foreign government. As far as I am concerned, he’s aiding that government and is therefore committing treason.

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:44:51pm

re: #547 Dr. Matt

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Oh hell no to all of that.
A circle jerk of shady actors.

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:45:55pm
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ipsos  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:45:58pm

HOW THE EVERLIVING FUCK DOES IT TAKE NBC NIGHTLY NEWS UNTIL 15 MINUTES INTO THE BROADCAST TO MENTION MARIA BUTINA….IN THREE FUCKING SENTENCES?

GRRRRRRRRR.

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:46:57pm
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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:48:22pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:48:47pm

re: #454 gocart mozart

I self-censored a little bit there.

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Skip Intro  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:49:41pm

re: #546 MsJ

I get the idea he’s not.

It’s like how Walsh is still a tea partier but he quit the GOP.

He says he’s mad about trade.

561
BigPapa  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:49:48pm

re: #557 JordanRules

That will dupe Trumpers. Too complex a thought to consider the long game. Russia knows the long game.

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:50:55pm

re: #556 ipsos

HOW THE EVERLIVING FUCK DOES IT TAKE NBC NIGHTLY NEWS UNTIL 15 MINUTES INTO THE BROADCAST TO MENTION MARIA BUTINA….IN THREE FUCKING SENTENCES?

GRRRRRRRRR.

I am sensing that the media is not treating the Butina bombshell as such. It’s kinda odd. Even though the treason summit is understandably shaking the whole world, I expected more heavy coverage of this critical development. I mean hell, it goes perfectly well with reporting on the Helsinki betrayal.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:51:02pm

re: #547 Dr. Matt

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All those people are truly awful and toxic though. They’re all conservatives who helped create the environment that incubated racism within the GOP and paved the way for Trump. None of them have taken any responsibility for that, instead they blame Democrats as shrill alarmists or, in Mensch’s case, try to sidle up to and discredit the left by adopting and encouraging people to push the most unhinged and baseless conspiracy theories.

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:51:49pm

re: #560 Skip Intro

He says he’s mad about trade.

Fuck him sideways.

That did, at this point anyone “against” is ok by me. Vote against this trump thing and you get a pass from me. For this election.

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blueraven  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:52:12pm

re: #461 danarchy

Treason requires actually taking up arms against the US or giving aid and comfort to the enemy in wartime. Short of that it is something else. Espionage, money laundering, campaign finance violations etc.

It may be pedantic, but if we are talking about hanging people, we should probably have the law right.

Does it?

18 U.S.C. § 2381 - U.S. Code - Unannotated Title 18. Crimes and Criminal Procedure § 2381. Treason

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; ?and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

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ObserverArt  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:52:23pm

re: #562 JordanRules

I am sensing that the media is not treating the Butina bombshell as such. It’s kinda odd. Even though the treason summit is understandably shaking the whole world, I expected more heavy coverage of this critical development. I mean hell, it goes perfectly well with reporting on the Helsinki betrayal.

Ari had a pretty good mention of it.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:52:31pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:52:47pm

re: #563 goddamnedfrank

The media are the ones burying the stories and protecting his ass, just like two years ago.

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ipsos  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:52:57pm

re: #562 JordanRules

I am sensing that the media is not treating the Butina bombshell as such. It’s kinda odd. Even though the treason summit is understandably shaking the whole world, I expected more heavy coverage of this critical development. I mean hell, it goes perfectly well with reporting on the Helsinki betrayal.

And yet they did a 2-minute reported package on the Amazon Prime Day outage.

GRRRRRRRRR.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:53:18pm

re: #532 MsJ

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:53:35pm

Has Mueller made any statement other than they are looking into what DT did today?

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Skip Intro  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:54:08pm

re: #571 PhillyPretzel

What can he say?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:54:49pm

I’m seeing this Butina news, and noting that she’s 29, I find myself wanting to tell The Older Boy, “Look, she’s only TWO YEARS OLDER than you, and already she’s been charged with subverting the most powerful lobbying group in America as well as one of the two major political parties. What have YOU done with YOUR life?”
/////////////////

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BeachDem  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:54:58pm

re: #515 Stanley Sea

It’s tomorrow as well? I tried to sign in & couldn’t.

I was able to sign in and, of course, found a gadget I didn’t have and wanted—a Hepa air purifier marked down from $89.95 to $58.49.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:55:30pm

re: #572 Skip Intro

He and his people might find something chargeable against DT and company. One can hope.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:55:33pm

Okay, it’s sounding like I missed a LOT. Who the hell is Maria Butina, and what the ever-loving fuck did Trump say today?

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EPR-radar  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:56:03pm

re: #572 Skip Intro

What can he say?

I want Federal marshals to arrest Trump right as he leaves the plane when he returns to the US. I know it won’t happen, but I am very tired of seeing this traitor and his party full of treacherous snakes do as they please.

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:56:06pm
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Dr. Matt  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:57:56pm

Someone, for dear Dog, please, please, please…PRETTY PLEASE….

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.

R E L E A S E - T H E - P E E - T A P E!!!!

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:58:44pm

re: #576 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Here is an article from my local PBS station WHYY. I posted this earlier upstream.
whyy.org

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Skip Intro  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:59:35pm

re: #575 PhillyPretzel

He and his people might find something chargeable against DT and company. One can hope.

Yeah, but he’s not going to announce it.

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ObserverArt  Jul 16, 2018 • 3:59:53pm

re: #576 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Okay, it’s sounding like I missed a LOT. Who the hell is Maria Butina, and what the ever-loving fuck did Trump say today?

It’s just as much about what he didn’t say as what he said.

To sum it up…he sold out his own Intel agencies and most of DC by saying Putin/Russia had nothing to do with the election/collusion.

But Hillary’s server and 30,000 emails…

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Skip Intro  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:00:35pm

re: #576 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Are you kidding?

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BeachDem  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:02:08pm

re: #532 MsJ

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I don’t understand all the accolades he’s getting for remaining a conservative Republican even if he’s stepping down as county chair. Why does that show courage or principle? It’s like being a little bit pregnant.

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:02:32pm

re: #579 Dr. Matt

Someone, for dear Dog, please, please, please…PRETTY PLEASE….

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R E L E A S E - T H E - P E E - T A P E!!!!

I really don’t think it will matter.

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Teukka  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:02:44pm

re: #576 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Okay, it’s sounding like I missed a LOT. Who the hell is Maria Butina, and what the ever-loving fuck did Trump say today?

Mariia Butina is a Russian national arrested for conspiracy of being an agent of the Russian federation. NRA member, and seems to have (tried to) be a liasion between the RF and conservative circles in DC.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:03:00pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:04:16pm

re: #585 JordanRules

I really don’t think it will matter.

That excruciating slow drip of… events.

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Chrysicat  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:04:18pm

re: #505 The Vicious Babushka

Amazon is still hammered on Prime Day. Don’t know if it’s because their servers can’t handle the traffic or the Russians DDOS’ed ‘em. Probably both.

Or it could be the strike that its employees planned for that day, though I’m not sure if it was Prime Day or Bezos officially becoming the world’s richest man that had them go for it. Maybe some of the IT people support the strikers?

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Mike Lamb  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:04:19pm

re: #547 Dr. Matt

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That’s all well and good, but until a senator matches their concerns with action, the bipartisan tweeting is pretty fucking worthless.

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Chrysicat  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:05:03pm

*Ahem*

The stray re-posted content has been trimmed from my #589.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:05:32pm

Trap set.

They will have to defend his tweets, lol

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:05:37pm
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BigPapa  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:06:13pm

This is like the Cuban Missile Crisis but much slower and with social media. So it’s cool, all good.

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:06:14pm

re: #585 JordanRules

I really don’t think it will matter.

The number of people laughing at him would drive him over another edge.

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teleskiguy  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:06:45pm

It’s Amazon Prime Day!

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Chrysicat  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:07:05pm
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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:08:59pm

re: #576 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Okay, it’s sounding like I missed a LOT. Who the hell is Maria Butina, and what the ever-loving fuck did Trump say today?

Seriously. It’s like this everyday. The overwhelmingly incompetence, criminality, bullshit, lies, treason. Every damn day it’s something (usually awful). It’s overwhelming.

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:09:16pm

re: #595 Belafon

The number of people laughing at him would drive him over another edge.

Wherein he usually hurts vulnerable people by serving them up for his base somehow.

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teleskiguy  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:09:50pm
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Chrysicat  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:10:16pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:10:32pm

re: #598 MsJ

Seriously. It’s like this everyday. The overwhelmingly incompetence, criminality, bullshit, lies, treason. Every damn day it’s something (usually awful). It’s overwhelming.

And it covers up all the other horrible things his administration is doing, every single day.

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wrenchwench  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:10:33pm

re: #562 JordanRules

I am sensing that the media is not treating the Butina bombshell as such. It’s kinda odd. Even though the treason summit is understandably shaking the whole world, I expected more heavy coverage of this critical development. I mean hell, it goes perfectly well with reporting on the Helsinki betrayal.

First; the weekly magazines couldn’t keep up. Then the newspapers couldn’t keep up. Then the radio. Now the TV. Everybody has to catch up to the internet.

I’m sunk.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:10:55pm

I’m feeling especially salty today.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:12:01pm

Y’all so doomsday.

Today showed the puppet in fine form. Drip drip.

I appreciated the tweet posted before that said Rosenstein & Mueller gave him a way out on friday, but his ego could not see it.
……the road to justice is long, but we must travel it & not pull over…..-SS 2018

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:12:09pm

re: #584 BeachDem

I don’t understand all the accolades he’s getting for remaining a conservative Republican even if he’s stepping down as county chair. Why does that show courage or principle? It’s like being a little bit pregnant.

Desperation on our part. Enjoyment at watching every little collapse of the GOP.

A bunch of reasons just like those.

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:12:31pm

re: #585 JordanRules

I really don’t think it will matter.

It wouldn’t. Not to the cult.

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gocart mozart  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:13:13pm

Anatomy of a Trump cultist
[The “liberal shill” is Shapiro for calling Putin a murderer]

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EPR-radar  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:14:43pm

re: #604 goddamnedfrank

I’m feeling especially salty today.

Never-Trump Republicans piss me off. They are like an especially stupid version of Victor Frankenstein.

What kind of idiot spends at least 24 years (Gingrich’s contract on America) working 24 hours every day of every stinking year on their goddamn monster, and then denies paternity when the beast slips its leash and starts laying waste to everything in sight?

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:15:17pm

re: #605 Stanley Sea

Y’all so doomsday.

Today showed the puppet in fine form. Drip drip.

I appreciated the tweet posted before that said Rosenstein & Mueller gave him a way out on friday, but his ego could not see it.
……the road to justice is long, but we must travel it & not pull over…..-SS 2018

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Belafon  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:15:38pm

re: #599 JordanRules

He hasn’t needed an excuse before.

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wrenchwench  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:15:42pm

re: #609 EPR-radar

Never-Trump Republicans piss me off. They are like an especially stupid version of Victor Frankenstein.

What kind of idiot spends at least 24 years (Gingrich’s contract on America) working 24 hours every day of every stinking year on their goddamn monster, and then denies paternity when the beast slips its leash and starts laying waste to everything in sight?

All of ‘em.

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BeachDem  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:18:02pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:19:20pm

re: #605 Stanley Sea

Y’all so doomsday.

Today showed the puppet in fine form. Drip drip.

I appreciated the tweet posted before that said Rosenstein & Mueller gave him a way out on friday, but his ego could not see it.
……the road to justice is long, but we must travel it & not pull over…..-SS 2018

Check back on November 9.

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:21:38pm

re: #611 Belafon

He hasn’t needed an excuse before.

And yet it’s still a tactic that he employs when he feels cornered and/or feels it may be especially beneficial.

And really, who is going to be laughing at him in any more egregious and accessible ways than we’ve already seen? For the most part, if you have proximity to him, you are a loyalist. He’ll continue to avoid protesters who do it. The media won’t do it. His regime surely won’t and would work 24/7 to help him avoid it so they don’t get cussed out.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:21:52pm

re: #614 Skip Intro

Check back on November 9.

Not giving up hope no matter.

GOTV is the key to Nov. 9.

All of us need to put in an hour at least.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:22:00pm

Tweety…….

FoxNeus today…. “Man bites dog”

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:24:05pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:24:05pm

re: #616 Stanley Sea

Very true. I saw someone registering voters at the train station today. There are many people making a solid effort.

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danarchy  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:24:09pm

re: #565 blueraven

Does it?

18 U.S.C. § 2381 - U.S. Code - Unannotated Title 18. Crimes and Criminal Procedure § 2381. Treason

Enemy has a specific legal definition. I don’t have a problem calling Trump a treasonous POS in the colloquial sense of the word, but when you start talking about punishments for crimes you can’t use colloquial definitions anymore:

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:25:07pm

re: #620 danarchy

Enemy has a specific legal definition. I don’t have a problem calling Trump a treasonous POS in the colloquial sense of the word, but when you start talking about punishments for crimes you can’t use colloquial definitions anymore:

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At least we are past the “can’t arrest a sitting President” garbage.

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Skip Intro  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:25:42pm

re: #616 Stanley Sea

I’m just suggesting you check back to see if you’re right and pick up the accolades. Maybe if the Dems can get off of their asses long enough to vote you’ll get them. I certainly hope so.

But this time it’s now or never, and the Republicans and the Russians are going to do everything in their power to make sure they win.

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:25:57pm

re: #616 Stanley Sea

Not giving up hope no matter.

GOTV is the key to Nov. 9.

All of us need to put in an hour at least.

I’m all over it. Been marching, calling, protesting, amplifying. Will continue to work and GOTV.

Not gone gaslight myself tho. Shit is really bad.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:26:44pm

re: #623 JordanRules

Yes. It is very bad. :(

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Teukka  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:26:46pm

re: #620 danarchy

Enemy has a specific legal definition. I don’t have a problem calling Trump a treasonous POS in the colloquial sense of the word, but when you start talking about punishments for crimes you can’t use colloquial definitions anymore:

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That would require legal definition of enemy and possibly war, “aid” and “comfort”.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:28:14pm

re: #623 JordanRules

I’m all over it. Been marching, calling, protesting, amplifying. Will continue to work and GOTV.

Not gone gaslight myself tho. Shit is really bad.

I’m going to Beach Dem’s group on Thursday. I’m ready fo them to put me to work.

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:28:58pm

re: #622 Skip Intro

I’m just suggesting you check back to see if you’re right and pick up the accolades. Maybe if the Dems can get off of their asses long enough to vote you’ll get them. I certainly hope so.

But this time it’s now or never, and the Republicans and the Russians are going to do everything in their power to make sure they win.

I honestly hate that we have to be 3x’s perfect to even have a chance at this thing in November. It’s worth working our ass off for and I mean we kinda have to. But I hate that we have to be in this position because we know they’ve been cheating and will continue to. That freakin sucks.

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Teukka  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:29:12pm

re: #625 Teukka

That would require legal definition of enemy and possibly war, “aid” and “comfort”.

As to war:
Sweden nabbed 3 righties that had received paramilitary training in Russia, which they used to commit at least 3 bombings. It’s not unlikely that pattern is repeated in Europe and the US. Then we have the cyber aspect. Can assymetric warfare be legally defined?

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Jack Burton  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:32:27pm

re: #461 danarchy

Treason requires actually taking up arms against the US or giving aid and comfort to the enemy in wartime. Short of that it is something else. Espionage, money laundering, campaign finance violations etc.

It may be pedantic, but if we are talking about hanging people, we should probably have the law right.

“I do not care what the blunt skulls call it. Here, it is known as treason.”

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:33:16pm

breitbart lead headline right now

Another Hysteria: Media Berserk After Trump Meets with Putin

CNN Shock: Call for Deep State to Oust POTUS

When Will ‘Shadow Government’ Rise Against?

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Jack Burton  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:34:31pm

re: #628 Teukka

As to war:
Sweden nabbed 3 righties that had received paramilitary training in Russia, which they used to commit at least 3 bombings. It’s not unlikely that pattern is repeated in Europe and the US. Then we have the cyber aspect. Can assymetric warfare be legally defined?

So Russia has terrorist training camps. Didn’t we bomb the shit out of a couple of countries for that?

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:36:11pm

Front page of WaPo:
washingtonpost.com

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Teukka  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:37:15pm

re: #631 Jack Burton

So Russia has terrorist training camps. Didn’t we bomb the shit out of a couple of countries for that?

Yeah, but how does one do that without the fecal matter migrating sideways in a pear shape into the rotary air distribution apparatus in terms of war?

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:37:24pm

Ventured onto Free Republic, where they almost unanimously believe US Intelligence cannot be believed, and Trump has their absolute alliegance. freerepublic.com

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Skip Intro  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:37:34pm

re: #627 JordanRules

The real problem is our side can make zero mistakes. Just one and the media will be all over it to “both sides” their milquetoast coverage of Trump.

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teleskiguy  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:37:55pm

re: #630 dog philosopher ????

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Skip Intro  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:38:17pm

re: #634 Big Beautiful Door

FR is nothing but a demented cult now. Bow down to Leader Jim or get the ZOT.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:41:00pm
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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:41:48pm

Some good news… If he follows through.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:42:42pm

re: #636 teleskiguy

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Media Berserk After Trump Meets With Putin

Is that what we’re calling fellation these days?

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:42:43pm

re: #639 MsJ

Good.

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:43:45pm

re: #626 Stanley Sea

I’m going to Beach Dem’s group on Thursday. I’m ready fo them to put me to work.

Lots of really good benefits for taking action. You get good distractions and can kinda lose yourself in the work. You also start to think more strategically I think and I find the feelings of solidarity you encounter very energizing. Get’s your blood flowing!

It’s just good stuff all around.

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teleskiguy  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:43:48pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:45:25pm

re: #640 Blind Frog Belly White

Media Berserk After Trump Meets With Putin

Is that what we’re calling fellation these days?

I note they only mention the media.

No mention whatsoever about conservatives both current and former Republicans that are having a lot issues with Trump.

Oh, that’s right. I forgot. They too are part of the deep state.

Fucking Bannon Bullshit Machine?.

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Skip Intro  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:46:10pm

re: #639 MsJ

What’s the catch?

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:46:25pm
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Chrysicat  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:46:30pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:47:05pm

Listened to a bit of Mark Levin ripping the media for asking questions at the press conference. I imagine Hannity will be ranting about servers and emails.

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Skip Intro  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:47:20pm

re: #646 JordanRules

Somebody just got blocked.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:48:05pm

re: #642 JordanRules

Lots of really good benefits for taking action. You get good distractions and can kinda lose yourself in the work. You also start to think more strategically I think and I find the feelings of solidarity you encounter very energizing. Get’s your blood flowing!

It’s just good stuff all around.

The added benefit of having something to back your bitch.

I sat on the sidelines forever. NWWT.

But now.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:50:50pm

OMG THE HARISSA MAKES SRIRACHA TASTE LIKE TOMATO SOUP

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JordanRules  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:51:48pm

Ha!

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BeachDem  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:52:14pm

re: #642 JordanRules

Lots of really good benefits for taking action. You get good distractions and can kinda lose yourself in the work. You also start to think more strategically I think and I find the feelings of solidarity you encounter very energizing. Get’s your blood flowing!

It’s just good stuff all around.

And most importantly, this week’s event is a happy hour, so alcohol!
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:52:31pm

re: #638 goddamnedfrank

Why should they “speak up”? They’ve served their country. Let Republicans who could actually do something to stop Trump speak the hell up.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:53:04pm
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Stanley Sea  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:53:46pm

re: #653 BeachDem

Therefore my willing attendance.

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wrenchwench  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:54:04pm

re: #651 The Vicious Babushka

OMG THE HARISSA MAKES SRIRACHA TASTE LIKE TOMATO SOUP

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By comparison? not by putting some in the Sriracha, I’m thinking…

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MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:56:02pm

re: #645 Skip Intro

What’s the catch?

An administrative group has to decide. Sinclair didn’t divest enough of it’s media assets.

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Jay C  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:57:30pm

re: #632 PhillyPretzel

Front page of WaPo:
washingtonpost.com

BTW, I saw an interesting piece on the WaPo site: apparently, Reps. Mark Meadows and Jim Jordan (House Free Dumb Caucus) are still pursuing their little vendetta against DAG Rod Rosenstein. Although they are not calling for his impeachment, (as they were threatening on Friday), they’ve scaled back their crusade to filing a complaint with DoJs Inspector General over their gripe that Rosenstein was “threatening” to Congressional staffers over the HFC’s demands for some documents or other. Poor snowflakes…

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gocart mozart  Jul 16, 2018 • 4:59:44pm
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EPR-radar  Jul 16, 2018 • 5:00:17pm

re: #659 Jay C

BTW, I saw an interesting piece on the WaPo site: apparently, Reps. Mark Meadows and Jim Jordan (House Free Dumb Caucus) are still pursuing their little vendetta against DAG Rod Rosenstein. Although they are not calling for his impeachment, (as they were threatening on Friday), they’ve scaled back their crusade to filing a complaint with DoJs Inspector General over their gripe that Rosenstein was “threatening” to Congressional staffers over the HFC’s demands for some documents or other. Poor snowflakes…

These House Republican treason-turds will bring up impeaching Rosenstein again, as soon as the media heat from Trump’s latest shitting of the bed dies down.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jul 16, 2018 • 5:03:48pm

re: #652 JordanRules

The only way the base will ever #ImpeachTrump is if they catch him wearing a “Black Lives Matter” t-shirt.

nah they’d just put it down to “owning the libs”

663
The Vicious Babushka  Jul 16, 2018 • 5:08:16pm

re: #657 wrenchwench

By comparison? not by putting some in the Sriracha, I’m thinking…

By comparison. Putting harissa in sriracha would be kind of pointless, it would water down the harissa.

664
MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 5:08:54pm

But of course. Sununu.

665
Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 16, 2018 • 5:11:30pm

We are all Divine….

666
makeitstop  Jul 16, 2018 • 5:12:24pm

Yeah, I know, Buckley. Still…

667
wrenchwench  Jul 16, 2018 • 5:12:53pm

re: #663 The Vicious Babushka

By comparison. Putting harissa in sriracha would be kind of pointless, it would water down the harissa.

Falafel looks great. Or is it ‘falafels look great’?

I’m having (left over) green chile corn chowder, and my second attempt at fried green tomatoes.

668
Ace Rothstein  Jul 16, 2018 • 5:14:53pm

I just got an auto-text from the Beto campaign asking me (“Shirley”) who I was voting for. I replied “I wouldn’t vote for Cruz if you stuck hot pokers in my eyeballs. BETO!!!!”

And stop calling me Shirley.

669
Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 16, 2018 • 5:15:05pm

To my eternal shame, I was, for one year, a member.

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makeitstop  Jul 16, 2018 • 5:15:20pm

re: #667 wrenchwench

Falafel looks great. Or is it ‘falafels look great’?

I’m having (left over) green chile corn chowder, and my second attempt at fried green tomatoes.

The wife and I ran out to the beach for a bit. Hummus, pickles, canteloupe, olives, crackers, vegetarian sausage (for her), smoked gouda and beer.

It was unusually damp. Good to duck out of the maelstrom for a bit, though.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 16, 2018 • 5:15:37pm

re: #669 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s okay, I used to vote Republican. That’s much worse.

672
gocart mozart  Jul 16, 2018 • 5:16:00pm
673
Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Jul 16, 2018 • 5:16:03pm

Seeing more & more of this on Twitter - armed service veterans lamenting that they spent a good portion of their lives fighting against the Evil Empire, only to see everything thrown away by a corrupt moron who goes on his knees and slobbers on Putin’s knob.

674
MsJ  Jul 16, 2018 • 5:19:23pm

Meanwhile in OH.

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gocart mozart  Jul 16, 2018 • 5:20:36pm
676
EPR-radar  Jul 16, 2018 • 5:22:27pm

re: #671 Ace Rothstein

It’s okay, I used to vote Republican. That’s much worse.

So did I. However, there is a certain clarity in having been fooled so badly that ‘never again’ has real force. For me that was voting for W in 2000. At least it was in CA where it didn’t make a damn bit of difference.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 16, 2018 • 5:25:00pm

re: #676 EPR-radar

So did I. However, there is a certain clarity in having been fooled so badly that ‘never again’ has real force. For me that was voting for W in 2000. At least it was in CA where it didn’t make a damn bit of difference.

“Just so, I tell you, there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance.”

678
Dave In Austin  Jul 16, 2018 • 5:31:11pm

Because he could.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Jul 16, 2018 • 5:55:21pm

re: #585 JordanRules

I really don’t think it will matter.

Pee tape won’t matter.

My friends in Ukraine have been trying to figure out WTF it could be, that a mere hooker tape is not enough to make Trump go this overboard and self-damaging, and what they’ve come up with is …

that it’s some kind of homosexual tape. Either a hooker with a strap-on, or some big buff Siberian dude bending Trump over, and giving him what he’s been giving America.

Remember, Russia is FAR more homophobic than the U.S.; the Russian mob (which is what Putin is, really) considers being gay the worst, lowest, most shameful thing imaginable. So it makes sense that if you really want to compromise a person, you get the most damaging possible information on them, right?

Which is one of the things that they have in common with Trump’s base. And Trump himself, come to think of it. Imagine all the MAGA-hats being confronted with tapes on WikiLeaks of Trump squealing in delight as he’s getting just pounded? There would be a run on mops in Wal-Marts all across the Bible Belt just to clean up all the ‘asploding heads.

Maybe this is why Putin was giggling like a schoolboy? Because he knew what he has on Trump is SO MUCH worse than any Pee-Pee tape, something that strikes right to the heart of Trump’s image as a ladykilling cocksman…

Sorry to anyone who clicked on that and barfed a little into their mouths, but it’s one of the hot rumors. Probably not true. Probably.

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cat-tikvah  Jul 16, 2018 • 10:37:04pm

re: #478 PhillyPretzel

You know the sh*t is hitting the fan when Toomey crawls out to make a statement.

681
Dr. Matt  Jul 17, 2018 • 6:41:14am

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