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1
Anymouse ??  Dec 30, 2018 • 1:39:59pm

LOL (video, 0:22)

2
GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 30, 2018 • 1:41:49pm

Build That Wall!

Oh wait.

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Anymouse ??  Dec 30, 2018 • 1:43:44pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 30, 2018 • 1:45:11pm

re: #3 Anymouse ??

JFC.

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jaunte  Dec 30, 2018 • 1:45:45pm

re: #3 Anymouse ??

An eleven year old has a lot more potential productive earning years for the private prison industry than a parent would.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2018 • 1:46:36pm

re: #3 Anymouse ??

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OFFS.

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ObserverArt  Dec 30, 2018 • 1:50:32pm

When it comes to guns and the law, Florida is flat out crazy.

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dangerman (not steve)  Dec 30, 2018 • 1:52:46pm

re: #3 Anymouse ??

Florida police charge an 11-year-old boy with manslaughter after his parents leave him home alone with loaded, unsecured guns. The parents have not been charged.

i’m going with it’s early yet (and i dont know if it’s him, her or both):

In Florida, it’s illegal to leave an unsecured firearm within reach of a child. Two handguns were recovered from the parents’ room, deputies said. No charges have been filed against Carter’s parents, but that is a possibility, Smith said.

and if they are, it wont be all i’d hope for the parents:

- jail
- fines
- loss of 2A rights forever

they had one job and they lost control of their weapons

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Anymouse ??  Dec 30, 2018 • 1:52:46pm

re: #7 ObserverArt

When it comes to guns and the law, Florida is flat out crazy.

According to the article, leaving a firearm in reach of a child is against the law in Florida.

The prosecutor’s office is weighing whether to bring charges.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 30, 2018 • 1:53:16pm
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FormerDirtDart ????  Dec 30, 2018 • 1:54:43pm

“Beware of the Dog”

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Anymouse ??  Dec 30, 2018 • 1:55:45pm

On Connie Schultz, someone pointed me at a Talking Points Memo article from 2012 about her where a right-wing blogger tried to sandbag her as a reporter, claiming she was too cozy with a politician (Sen. Sherrod Brown). As evidence, the blogger provided a photograph of her hugging the senator.

She responded:

Dear Mr. [Name Deleted]:

I am surprised you did not find a photo of me kissing U.S. Sen. Sherrod Brown so hard he passes out from lack of oxygen. He’s really cute.

He’s also my husband.

You know that, right?

Connie Schultz.

The rest of the article is pretty funny.

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Anymouse ??  Dec 30, 2018 • 1:56:31pm

re: #12 Anymouse ??

talkingpointsmemo.com

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2018 • 1:56:41pm

re: #12 Anymouse ??

On Connie Schultz, someone pointed me at a Talking Points Memo article from 2012 about her where a right-wing blogger tried to sandbag her as a reporter, claiming she was too cozy with a politician (Sen. Sherrod Brown). As evidence, the blogger provided a photograph of her hugging the senator.

She responded:

The rest of the article is pretty funny.

Hahaha.

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William Lewis  Dec 30, 2018 • 1:57:33pm

CL’d on the last thread…

So worked the overnight shift at the hotel, filling in. Went to church. Came home and napped a bit. Decided that I really ought to use up the 1 kg pork roast my ex gave me. So I sauted it in the instant pot, added some herbs, some cream of mushroom soup for liquid, roughly chopped carrot and potato and gave the stew button a poke. In less than an hour I’ll have dinner for the next couple of days. My pot was a lizard gift last year and I remain profoundly grateful.

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Anymouse ??  Dec 30, 2018 • 2:00:07pm

Uh-oh, trouble in oligarchy paradise:

palmbeachpost.com

By Alexandra Clough
@acloughpbp
Posted Dec 27, 2018 at 9:26 AM Updated Dec 28, 2018 at 2:30 PM

UPDATE:

President Donald Trump has canceled plans to spend the New Year’s holiday at Mar-a-Lago. A source who had planned to attend the Mar-a-Lago New Year’s Eve party said Friday Palm Beach was abuzz with members and guests talking about their own plans to bail on the Trump family’s annual gala.

It’s unclear whether Mar-a-Lago will let people wiggle out of their tickets at this late date. But evidently, some club members and guests have no interest in paying extra-high ticket prices if the president will not be in attendance.

People were willing to pay for the cachet if partying with the president, a source said. But with President Donald Trump staying in Washington, “people are bailing,” the source said. “It’s a lot of money (to spend) without his celebrity.”

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dangerman (not steve)  Dec 30, 2018 • 2:00:32pm

re: #7 ObserverArt

When it comes to guns and the law, Florida is flat out crazy.

there was a big end of the year story about the
“marjorie stoneman douglas high school public safety act”

and how far forward a leap that was for florida and gun and school safety

yes it raised the age to buy to 21
banned bump stocks
add 3 day waiting period
and a bunch of school and mental health stuff

it’s not nothing at all but close

as long as there are private sales, as long as there are no serious consequences to discharge, transfer, storage “mishaps” then it’s all theater

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dangerman (not steve)  Dec 30, 2018 • 2:01:41pm

re: #9 Anymouse ??

According to the article, leaving a firearm in reach of a child is against the law in Florida.

The prosecutor’s office is weighing whether to bring charges.

the kid’s 11
and by his actions he has some self awareness of what he was doing or did

90%+ of the responsibility for this is on the parent(s)

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2018 • 2:01:48pm

re: #17 dangerman

there was a big end of the year story about the
“marjorie stoneman douglas high school public safety act”

and how far forward a leap that was for florida and gun and school safety

yes it raised the age to buy to 21
banned bump stocks
add 3 day waiting period
and a bunch of school and mental health stuff

it’s not nothing at all but close

as long as there are private sales, as long as there are no serious consequences to discharge, transfer, storage “mishaps” then it’s all theater

Yep there’s no gun responsibility. But that’s what happens when your system pampers gun hoarders and tells them they’re protecting us against tyrants.

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ObserverArt  Dec 30, 2018 • 2:11:05pm

re: #19 HappyWarrior

Yep there’s no gun responsibility. But that’s what happens when your system pampers gun hoarders and tells them they’re protecting us against tyrants.

And as a non-gun owner I always ask who is going to protect us from the “legal” gun owners that too often turn out to be one-rage away from going on a spree.

Anyone have an answer to that? I haven’t come across one. Non-gun owners do not have much of a voice in any of the lawmaking. The laws always have to deal with gun owners due to what happens because they have such easy access to guns.

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MsJ  Dec 30, 2018 • 2:16:37pm

re: #16 Anymouse ??

Uh-oh, trouble in oligarchy paradise:

palmbeachpost.com

By Alexandra Clough
@acloughpbp
Posted Dec 27, 2018 at 9:26 AM Updated Dec 28, 2018 at 2:30 PM

UPDATE:

President Donald Trump has canceled plans to spend the New Year’s holiday at Mar-a-Lago. A source who had planned to attend the Mar-a-Lago New Year’s Eve party said Friday Palm Beach was abuzz with members and guests talking about their own plans to bail on the Trump family’s annual gala.

It’s unclear whether Mar-a-Lago will let people wiggle out of their tickets at this late date. But evidently, some club members and guests have no interest in paying extra-high ticket prices if the president will not be in attendance.

People were willing to pay for the cachet if partying with the president, a source said. But with President Donald Trump staying in Washington, “people are bailing,” the source said. “It’s a lot of money (to spend) without his celebrity.”

So. Fucking. Infuriating.

So completely in your face; unashamed and unabashed.

Fuck these people?

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Anymouse ??  Dec 30, 2018 • 2:20:06pm

Here we go again, after he tried this stunt with Nancy Pelosi and posted a picture of the wrong person’s house:

… and if they actually did such a thing, it would be necessary after years of incitement by him against them.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2018 • 2:21:42pm

re: #20 ObserverArt

And as a non-gun owner I always ask who is going to protect us from the “legal” gun owners that too often turn out to be one-rage away from going on a spree.

Anyone have an answer to that? I haven’t come across one. Non-gun owners do not have much of a voice in any of the lawmaking. The laws always have to deal with gun owners due to what happens because they have such easy access to guns.

I’ve been waiting for that answer too and I never get a real answer from my ultra pro 2A friends. I’m sorry but it’s not a free society if you have to live in fear of some asshole losing control of his weapon. And despite what they say, there are a lot of irresponsible gun owners out there that do put the rest of us non-gun owners in danger and among them have been parents, family, guardians, etc of murderers.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2018 • 2:22:01pm

re: #22 Anymouse ??

Here we go again, after he tried this stunt with Nancy Pelosi and posted a picture of the wrong person’s house:

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… and if they actually did such a thing, it would be necessary after years of incitement by him against them.

You need a wall for your fat mouth.

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Anymouse ??  Dec 30, 2018 • 2:22:26pm

re: #20 ObserverArt

And as a non-gun owner I always ask who is going to protect us from the “legal” gun owners that too often turn out to be one-rage away from going on a spree.

Anyone have an answer to that? I haven’t come across one. Non-gun owners do not have much of a voice in any of the lawmaking. The laws always have to deal with gun owners due to what happens because they have such easy access to guns.

As a legal gun owner, I wonder about the same things. They don’t care about those of us who want saner laws such as closing the private-sale loophole for background checks, waiting periods, registration, &c.

The folks who push these laws aren’t pushing them on behalf of gun owners either. They are pushing them on behalf of their real constituents (the NRA).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 30, 2018 • 2:23:45pm

How much you want to bet those New Years’ Eve Mar-A-Lago tickets are non-refundable?

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Anymouse ??  Dec 30, 2018 • 2:24:46pm

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

How much you want to bet those New Years’ Eve Mar-A-Lago tickets are non-refundable?

Well, the sort of people who can afford to buy those tickets can also afford to sue the crap out of him.

That said, the idea of selling tickets for access to the President is repugnant.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 30, 2018 • 2:25:27pm

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

Bet? No. The tickets are not refundable. DT likes to grab any money that comes in.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2018 • 2:25:40pm

re: #27 Anymouse ??

Well, the sort of people who can afford to buy those tickets can also afford to sue the crap out of him.

That said, the idea of selling tickets for access to the President is repugnant.

It’s something you’d see in a third world dictatorship. The same third world dictatorship where teh President’s son in law and daughter are key makers on policy despite having no qualifications.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 30, 2018 • 2:26:11pm

re: #22 Anymouse ??

This country has never had a wall and we’ve been safe and sound for centuries. I have a feeling that Trump is going to make money off any wall and that’s the only reason he’s pushing it so hard. The man is a grifter.

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plansbandc  Dec 30, 2018 • 2:26:52pm

re: #30 Patricia Kayden

But of course.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 30, 2018 • 2:28:08pm

re: #27 Anymouse ??

Well, the sort of people who can afford to buy those tickets can also afford to sue the crap out of him.

That said, the idea of selling tickets for access to the President is repugnant.

I’m sure there is some fine print on them saying: “appearance by the President is not guaranteed, etc.”

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Charles Johnson  Dec 30, 2018 • 2:32:28pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2018 • 2:33:03pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2018 • 2:34:47pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

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*Childish name* McCrystal is a loser who wanted *blank from me* but I said no. It’s his fault we had to leave Afghanistan. He’s a disgrace. There, I found Trump’s response before Trump even stated it.

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Teukka  Dec 30, 2018 • 2:39:02pm

OT, but… Gingerbread Xenomorph.
Image: tlwp1zwrg8721.jpg

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2018 • 2:40:42pm

morons

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Charles Johnson  Dec 30, 2018 • 2:43:31pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2018 • 2:44:02pm

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

morons

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Uh huh.

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jeffreyw  Dec 30, 2018 • 2:44:23pm

Happy Birthday Sweetie!

Imgur


No, not you.

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bd(Redacted)  Dec 30, 2018 • 2:44:29pm

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

morons

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What the hell is a pause situation?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2018 • 2:45:07pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

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I remember when I thought Bush was as worse as we could do and America 2016 is like “Try me motherfucker, try me!” I’m not really worried about beating Trump in 2020 per say. I’m worried about beating Trump and having relative peace for 8 years and then amnesia setting in again and a more competent right wing con artist stepping in 2028.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2018 • 2:45:43pm

re: #41 bd(Redacted)

What the hell is a pause situation?

It’s when Trump pauses and lets Vlad pants him and Trump tells us that Vlad pantsed him because it’s going to MAGA.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 30, 2018 • 2:53:03pm

re: #36 Teukka

Big scaling problem on the photo.

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TedStriker  Dec 30, 2018 • 2:57:34pm

Reposted from the end of the last thread:

re: #389 PhillyPretzel

One note about the Ring Video Doorbell: The apps from Apple’s App Store work beautifully. I have both loaded to their respective platforms and I have so far very few problems. I tried to get the amazon version and stopped when I read the reviews. One would figure that paying for an app it would be a better one. According to the reviews it is not. So I did not download it. This means that my kindle fire tablet which I purchased to be used for this doorbell is not. Even when I went to the ring website it transferred me back to amazon’s App Store.

Could you not sideload the standard Android Ring app (which appears to be free)?

laptopmag.com

Edit: I didn’t notice that link was really old and that Handango doesn’t run an app store of its own anymore; see below for a way to get Google Play Store apps on Kindle Fire devices that’s much more recent:

howtogeek.com

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:03:41pm

re: #45 TedStriker

Thanks. I will have to try it. Right now I am happy with the Apple platforms.

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ObserverArt  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:04:16pm

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

How much you want to bet those New Years’ Eve Mar-A-Lago tickets are non-refundable?

On the back of the ticket, that would be right after the non-disclosure part of the legal language. You can’t tell anyone what happened at the party and you can’t get your money back if the party doesn’t provide the stars.

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TedStriker  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:05:38pm

re: #46 PhillyPretzel

Thanks. I will have to try it. Right now I am happy with the Apple platforms.

Refresh my post for more current and usable info.

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bd(Redacted)  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:05:50pm

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

How much you want to bet those New Years’ Eve Mar-A-Lago tickets are non-refundable?

And an explanation on how they need to contact Nancy Pelosi for a refund.

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jeffreyw  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:06:37pm

re: #44 Decatur Deb

I was able to view the whole photo by right clicking and opening the link in a new tab. Chrome for Windows

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TedStriker  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:12:15pm

re: #49 bd(Redacted)

And an explanation on how they need to contact Nancy Pelosi and the US government for a refund.

FTFY

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:14:10pm

re: #45 TedStriker

Even How to Geek wants me to download 4 other programs and then I can get the Android version. That is a bit much for one app that I already have on my iPhone and iPad. I will find other uses for that kindle tablet.

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TedStriker  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:16:36pm

re: #52 PhillyPretzel

Even How to Geek wants me to download 4 other programs and then I can get the Android version. That is a bit much for one app that I already have on my iPhone and iPad. I will find other uses for that kindle tablet.

The HtG tutorial is on how to install the Google Play Store on a Kindle Fire device (they have two methods posted, one is to install the APKs needed to get the Play Store through the KF GUI [which is the one you reference] and the other, more advanced, method is to install it through ADB [where you can brick the device if something goes wrong because it’s more “to the metal”, so to speak]). However, if you have the time and the inclination later, it may be worth it to get access to the general Android app ecosystem if you want more than just the Ring app.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:19:37pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:20:27pm

re: #54 Patricia Kayden

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“Plus he promised me he’d consider me for the AG slot and suddenly my worries about Syria melted away.”

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Anymouse ??  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:20:58pm

It is now sunset where I live (4:30PM). I need to duck out and raise the village flags.

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TedStriker  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:22:07pm

re: #56 Anymouse ??

It is now sunset where I live (4:30PM). I need to duck out and raise the village flags.

Raise or lower?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:22:36pm

re: #54 Patricia Kayden

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He’s so obviously being blackmailed.

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TedStriker  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:24:27pm

re: #58 HappyWarrior

He’s so obviously being blackmailed.

Maybe or perhaps Graham just looooves cradling Trump’s shriveled ballsack, because you know Trump isn’t down to reciprocate.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:26:27pm

re: #58 HappyWarrior

He’s so obviously being blackmailed.

I believe that most Congressional Republicans were being blackmailed and hence their lockstep march along with Trump no matter what he does. Russians didn’t just hack into the DNC, after all.

I hope Democrats investigate why several Republicans went to Russia on the Fourth of July. That was beyond odd. washingtonpost.com

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:26:27pm

re: #59 TedStriker

Maybe or perhaps Graham just looooves cradling Trump’s shriveled ballsack, because you know Trump isn’t down to reciprocate.

It’s how quickly he started to love him that makes him suspect imo.

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Targetpractice  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:28:08pm

My personal favorite of Huckleberry Closet-case’s remarks today remains declaring the “big, beautiful wall” as a a “metaphor” for border security. As if he believes anybody is buying that shit at this point.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:28:35pm

It does speak a lot to how dirty and corrupt Republicans are if so many of them can be blackmailed that easily.

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Sea-King  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:32:13pm

re: #10 Patricia Kayden

Someone discovered America!!

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bd(Redacted)  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:35:16pm

So the wall isn’t even a wall now, it’s a metaphor?

wth, floundering flounders.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:35:32pm
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Decatur Deb  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:38:57pm

re: #65 bd(Redacted)

So the wall isn’t even a wall now, it’s a metaphor?

wth, floundering flounders.

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It’s actually more of a phantasm, and by “phantasm” I mean custard pie.

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Targetpractice  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:41:11pm

“It’s a metaphor for ‘border security.’”

“I see. So if we pass $5B for border security, but put in explicit language that says that money can’t be used to build a wall, then it’s cool?”

“NO, IT HAS TO BE MONEY WE CAN USE TO BUILD A WALL!!!”

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:44:44pm

re: #65 bd(Redacted)

So the wall isn’t even a wall now, it’s a metaphor?

wth, floundering flounders.

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Mexico will pay for his lobotomy.

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makeitstop  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:46:28pm

That Marcus King is damn good, and he’s only 22. Plus, he’s in good hands being mentored by Warren Haynes.

I know he’s got a different style, but he attacks the guitar on his solos like SRV (and Albert King!) used to. I love seeing that.

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bd(Redacted)  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:50:22pm

re: #69 HappyWarrior

Mexico will pay for his lobotomy.

They do microsurgery in Mexico?

//

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:53:09pm

re: #71 bd(Redacted)

Yes, and fast too. The Speedy Gonzales Memorial Hospital. Zip you are in. Zip you are out.

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Jay C  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:53:49pm

re: #62 Targetpractice

My personal favorite of Huckleberry Closet-case’s remarks today remains declaring the “big, beautiful wall” as a a “metaphor” for border security. As if he believes anybody is buying that shit at this point.

My own guess* is that, since Miss Lindsay is, after all, a Senator, that his main job now is trying desperately to come up with some sort of compromise solution that will let the government reopen more-or-less in good time, and not have it look (reality notwithstanding) as if it is anything but a major defeat for President Asshole and/or a public embarrassment for the GOP. I’m thinking* that when Congress reconvenes next Thursday, Job #1 is going to be passing a budget CR that everyone can at least get passed with as little trouble as possible: The House won’t be a problem, the Senate will be: but if Lindsay and Mitch can cobble up some - ANY sort of agreement that placates the Toddler-in-Chief enough so as not to veto it, it can hailed as a victory all around (again, reality notwithstanding) - and we can all move on to the next round of dysfunction.

*Mere rank speculation, of course, but hey! It’s the Internet!

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TedStriker  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:54:12pm

re: #63 Eclectic Cyborg

It does speak a lot to how dirty and corrupt Republicans are if so many of them can be blackmailed that easily.

They tend to be everything that they accuse their opponents of being/doing.

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ObserverArt  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:54:42pm

re: #70 makeitstop

That Marcus King is damn good, and he’s only 22. Plus, he’s in good hands being mentored by Warren Haynes.

I know he’s got a different style, but he attacks the guitar on his solos like SRV (and Albert King!) used to. I love seeing that.

I came across him at one of my favorite musics sites…Jam in the Van. One of those tunes.

THE MARCUS KING BAND - “Rita is Gone” (Live at JITV HQ in Los Angeles, CA) #JAMINTHEVAN

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Anymouse ??  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:56:04pm

re: #57 TedStriker

Raise or lower?

Raise, from half-mast to full. Thirty days has now passed since President GHW Bush passed away.

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Targetpractice  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:57:48pm

re: #73 Jay C

My own guess* is that, since Miss Lindsay is, after all, a Senator, that his main job now is trying desperately to come up with some sort of compromise solution that will let the government reopen more-or-less in good time, and not have it look (reality notwithstanding) as if it is anything but a major defeat for President Asshole and/or a public embarrassment for the GOP. I’m thinking* that when Congress reconvenes next Thursday, Job #1 is going to be passing a budget CR that everyone can at least get passed with as little trouble as possible: The House won’t be a problem, the Senate will be: but if Lindsay and Mitch can cobble up some - ANY sort of agreement that placates the Toddler-in-Chief enough so as not to veto it, it can hailed as a victory all around (again, reality notwithstanding) - and we can all move on to the next round of dysfunction.

*Mere rank speculation, of course, but hey! It’s the Internet!

They are trying desperately to save his ass, which is why they’re trying to spin whatever amount of money that Pelosi and Schumer put forth for border security as a “win” for Donny. The fact that the DNC is insisting upon language that makes it explicitly clear that funding can’t go towards wall construction seems to be the major sticking point, else the GOP would be on pressing the WH to sign off on the damned bill so they can move things forward.

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Belafon  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:58:14pm

re: #68 Targetpractice

“It’s a metaphor for ‘border security.’”

“I see. So if we pass $5B for border security, but put in explicit language that says that money can’t be used to build a wall, then it’s cool?”

“NO, IT HAS TO BE MONEY WE CAN USE TO BUILD A WALL!!!”

The wall is a metaphor for security, and Mexico was just a metaphor for tax payers.

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TedStriker  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:58:58pm

re: #73 Jay C

My own guess* is that, since Miss Lindsay is, after all, a Senator, that his main job now is trying desperately to come up with some sort of compromise solution that will let the government reopen more-or-less in good time, and not have it look (reality notwithstanding) as if it is anything but a major defeat for President Asshole and/or a public embarrassment for the GOP. I’m thinking* that when Congress reconvenes next Thursday, Job #1 is going to be passing a budget CR that everyone can at least get passed with as little trouble as possible: The House won’t be a problem, the Senate will be: but if Lindsay and Mitch can cobble up some - ANY sort of agreement that placates the Toddler-in-Chief enough so as not to veto it, it can hailed as a victory all around (again, reality notwithstanding) - and we can all move on to the next round of dysfunction.

*Mere rank speculation, of course, but hey! It’s the Internet!

I got to say, I’ve never been comfortable with the “Miz Lindsey” quips to skewer Graham’s alleged closeting; frankly, I don’t give a shit if he is indeed gay/bi, but I do care that he’s a craven hypocrite that values his own power more than any vestige of integrity or proper governance.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:59:01pm
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Anymouse ??  Dec 30, 2018 • 3:59:36pm

re: #73 Jay C

My own guess* is that, since Miss Lindsay is, after all, a Senator, that his main job now is trying desperately to come up with some sort of compromise solution that will let the government reopen more-or-less in good time, and not have it look (reality notwithstanding) as if it is anything but a major defeat for President Asshole and/or a public embarrassment for the GOP. I’m thinking* that when Congress reconvenes next Thursday, Job #1 is going to be passing a budget CR that everyone can at least get passed with as little trouble as possible: The House won’t be a problem, the Senate will be: but if Lindsay and Mitch can cobble up some - ANY sort of agreement that placates the Toddler-in-Chief enough so as not to veto it, it can hailed as a victory all around (again, reality notwithstanding) - and we can all move on to the next round of dysfunction.

*Mere rank speculation, of course, but hey! It’s the Internet!

McConnell is already on record saying he won’t bring any bill to the Senate floor that Trump won’t sign.

The Senate is now operating under one-party rule, effectively gumming up the whole government.

McConnell doesn’t care. All he cares about is power.

And with such a statement, how does one really know what it is Trump wants to sign? We effectively have an executive branch run by one senator from Kentucky.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2018 • 4:00:50pm

re: #80 Patricia Kayden

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Evil shitbags.

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Jay C  Dec 30, 2018 • 4:09:04pm

re: #79 TedStriker

I got to say, I’ve never been comfortable with the “Miz Lindsey” quips to skewer Graham’s alleged closeting; frankly, I don’t give a shit if he is indeed gay/bi, but I do care that he’s a craven hypocrite that values his own power more than any vestige of integrity or proper governance.

Not only a craven hypocrite, but a blatant liar (as per his new BFF in the WH) as well: saw on Balloon Juice a quote Graham (in TV) made about Syria, where he blamed all the problems there on Obama withdrawing from Iraq; and when questioned about the SOFA Agreement Obama had had to work under, dismissed it as “bullshit”. The Agreement which is part of the official public record, and can be looked up with a few minutes Googling, but then: the Trump line is that it’s BS, so BS it is…..

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Anymouse ??  Dec 30, 2018 • 4:12:56pm

Marcy Wheeler notes an interesting issue with both Giuliani and Trump attacking the FBI over Peter Strzok’s text messages. Why aren’t they attacking the contractor who was keeping those texts for the government?

(Short answer from me would be “the contractor isn’t investigating Trump.”)

If Trump Is So Concerned that a DOJ Contractor Failed to Archive Texts, Why Not Hold the Contractor Accountable? (Goes to emptywheel, more at the link):

The claim is, like so much else emanating from these two men’s twitter thumbs, an either willful or ignorant misstatement, this one based on a DOJ IG Report on efforts to collect Strzok-Page texts that, because of a technical malfunction, didn’t get collected by an FBI contractor. It conflates efforts to replace texts sent using their FBI-issued Samsung Galaxy phones (where some 19,000 texts did not get archived, though the number itself is inflated because it would necessarily include a lot of overlap) with a belated effort to check their Mueller-issued iPhones. Worse still, it talks about texts that actually were recovered.

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Mattand  Dec 30, 2018 • 4:20:44pm

re: #21 MsJ

So. Fucking. Infuriating.

So completely in your face; unashamed and unabashed.

Fuck these people?

Yes.

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Targetpractice  Dec 30, 2018 • 4:22:30pm

re: #84 Anymouse ??

Marcy Wheeler notes an interesting issue with both Giuliani and Trump attacking the FBI over Peter Strzok’s text messages. Why aren’t they attacking the contractor who was keeping those texts for the government?

(Short answer from me would be “the contractor isn’t investigating Trump.”)

If Trump Is So Concerned that a DOJ Contractor Failed to Archive Texts, Why Not Hold the Contractor Accountable? (Goes to emptywheel, more at the link):

Like so much else about the wingnut attacks on the Mueller investigation, it’s about throwing as much chaff in the air as possible so that the final results are obscured behind a wall of “doubt.” Efforts to attack Mueller directly have been largely unsuccessful, so they’re going after the weak links in the hopes of disrupting the “chain of custody.” It’s like a defense lawyer dragging in some lab tech to argue that the evidence is “tainted” because it was mishandled at some point between collection and the courtroom.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 30, 2018 • 4:25:00pm

re: #78 Belafon

That would make an awesome tweet. Lol.

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Belafon  Dec 30, 2018 • 4:28:52pm

re: #87 Patricia Kayden

Done:

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jaunte  Dec 30, 2018 • 4:34:00pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 30, 2018 • 4:35:50pm

re: #89 jaunte

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I hear nothing but bitching from Republican “sources” or the handful willing to be quoted by name, yet none of them has the balls to stand up and say “Fuck the wall!”

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Anymouse ??  Dec 30, 2018 • 4:39:58pm

They still didn’t apologise for favourable coverage of Hitler, are still giving favourable coverage to Twittler, and are only thirty years late with this:

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 30, 2018 • 4:41:45pm

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wrenchwench  Dec 30, 2018 • 4:42:50pm

re: #91 Anymouse ??

They still didn’t apologise for favourable coverage of Hitler, are still giving favourable coverage to Twittler, and are only thirty years late with this:

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What the NYT calls a ‘moral panic’, I would call an ‘immoral panic’. Sounds a lot like the current administration’s border strategy.

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freetoken  Dec 30, 2018 • 4:43:59pm

Opinion: If There’s a Crisis on The Border, Why Is San Diego So Safe?

[…]

San Diego is poised to end 2018 with 1.9 murders per 100,000 residents, compared to 23.1 per 100,000 in Indianapolis and 51.7 per 100,000 in Baltimore. That means a resident of Indianapolis is 12 times more likely to be murdered, a resident of Baltimore 27 times.

If the border crisis is real, wouldn’t the crime rate in San Diego reflect that? If illegal immigration is the existential threat that President Trump and conservative Republicans say it is, wouldn’t there be evidence in San Diego? Wouldn’t MS-13 gang members and drug traffickers be shooting people in downtown San Diego? Slashing hard working citizens in San Ysidro? Terrorizing the streets of La Jolla?

[…]

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freetoken  Dec 30, 2018 • 4:45:08pm
A report last week by New York University’s Brennan Center for Justice found that San Diego had both the lowest murder rate and overall violent crime rate of the 30 largest American cities in 2018.

And we have a great many people here who were not born in the US.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 30, 2018 • 4:45:10pm

re: #75 ObserverArt

Screaming potential. Add some Joe Cocker soul to the mix. I like this kid. I just hope the party doesn’t eat him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2018 • 4:45:26pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2018 • 4:45:40pm

re: #94 freetoken

Opinion: If There’s a Crisis on The Border, Why Is San Diego So Safe?

El Paso is a pretty safe city too.

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FormerDirtDart ????  Dec 30, 2018 • 4:46:09pm

Entertainment thread

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DodgerFan1988  Dec 30, 2018 • 4:48:01pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 30, 2018 • 4:49:03pm

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Nah, let him do the SOTUA, I wanna see another round of the media going “He’s so presidential!” because he can read a teleprompter without shitting himself.

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Belafon  Dec 30, 2018 • 4:49:47pm

re: #100 DodgerFan1988

1. Vanity Fair and Teen Vogue were doing actual reporting on Trump when most publications were sucking up.
2. Look at the freakin’ name of the publication.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2018 • 4:51:00pm

re: #100 DodgerFan1988

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Seriously of all the people I feel bad for. College Republicans are right after girls who didn’t get Oompa Loompas now and the guy who didn’t get his Scuzan sauce.

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Jay C  Dec 30, 2018 • 4:51:42pm

re: #89 jaunte

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Actually (cockeyed optimist as I am*) Shelby’s comments might illustrate a way out the current mess: i.e., a carefully orchestrated veto override. Scenario: the House (which has to take the lead) passes a CR for the budget along the lines of the old Senate 100-0 proposal (no Wall $). The Senate, after some dithering and diddling, passes it with a carefully-calculated majority to minimize Republican embarrassment, after which the Moron-in-Chief vetoes it. The House then overrides the veto, as does the Senate - again, by a carefully-calculated minimal majority. Trump shrugs, blames Congress for the lack of Wall; and goes on to rabble-rouse the rubes over it, while the rest of the government goes back to sub-normal. At least until Feb. 8.

*SPOILER: Not.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 30, 2018 • 4:52:52pm

Bub U La

moe. Rebubula

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Anymouse ??  Dec 30, 2018 • 4:56:12pm

The media is liberally-biased - conservatives.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2018 • 4:56:56pm

re: #106 Anymouse ??

The media is liberally-biased - conservatives.

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Reading the legal code is hard.

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 30, 2018 • 4:58:06pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

El Paso is a pretty safe city too.

BUT WHAT ABOUT DETROIT!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2018 • 4:58:25pm

re: #108 The Vicious Babushka

BUT WHAT ABOUT DETROIT!!!!

Or Chicago!

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 30, 2018 • 4:59:50pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

Or Chicago!

Chicago isn’t on the border.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2018 • 5:00:53pm

re: #110 The Vicious Babushka

Chicago isn’t on the border.

I know.

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Targetpractice  Dec 30, 2018 • 5:02:32pm

re: #106 Anymouse ??

The media is liberally-biased - conservatives.

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Translation: “That’s our excuse for why we downplay revelations that hurt Trump and play up things we view as helping his case that this is all ‘political’!”

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Anymouse ??  Dec 30, 2018 • 5:04:52pm

re: #100 DodgerFan1988

Bwahahahaha! Nope.

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Anymouse ??  Dec 30, 2018 • 5:05:50pm

re: #110 The Vicious Babushka

Chicago isn’t on the border.

With the 100-mile inspection zone, it is now. All the Great Lakes shorelines are considered “border.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Dec 30, 2018 • 5:23:48pm

re: #114 Anymouse ??

With the 100-mile inspection zone, it is now. All the Great Lakes shorelines are considered “border.”

Yeahbut, Detroit, [Port Huron, Buffalo & Sault Ste. Marie] are all FREAKING BORDER CROSSING POINTS but Chicago, Milwaukee, & Cleveland are not.

[/pedant]

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Decatur Deb  Dec 30, 2018 • 5:26:34pm

re: #110 The Vicious Babushka

Chicago isn’t on the border.

Sort of is. The Border Patrol has an extended authority zone within 100 miles of any border, and CHI has nothing but water between it and those nice people to the north. Lower Alabama is “the border”.

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FormerDirtDart ????  Dec 30, 2018 • 5:27:12pm

re: #110 The Vicious Babushka

Chicago isn’t on the border.

Yes, it is.

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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 30, 2018 • 6:21:03pm

re: #110 The Vicious Babushka

Yeah, um that 100 mile policy puts many of our largest cities and most of our population at a reduced civil rights status.


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