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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jan 9, 2019 • 11:59:12am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:01:58pm
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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:03:00pm

re: #457 wrenchwench

Hunting in a wildlife refuge?!? That doesn’t seem fair.

That happens here, but it’s only kids with bows and arrows (one of my customers, when she was 15, got an elk).

fws.gov

According to FWS, more than 370 wildlife refuges permit hunting, the practice dating back to the early XX Century.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:03:00pm

Links to Raw Story:

Trump AG nominee has been friends with Mueller for years.

“I asked Mr. Barr directly, ‘Do you think Bob, Mr. Mueller’s, on a witch hunt?’ He said no. ‘Do you think he would be fair to the president and the country as a whole?’ He said yes,” Graham recalled, according to Bloomberg News.

Graham said that he learned that Mueller and Barr have been friends for decades.

“They’ve been personal friends for over 20 years,” Graham noted, explaining that the two had worked together at the Justice Department. “His opinion of Mr. Mueller is very, very high in terms of ethics and character and professionalism.”

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Sir John Barron  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:04:32pm

re: #4 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Links to Raw Story:

Trump AG nominee has been friends with Mueller for years.

So, isn’t this a “conflict of interest”, according to president Maga? THEY KNOW EACH OTHER

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:05:54pm

re: #5 Sir John Barron

So, isn’t this a “conflict of interest”, according to president Maga? THEY KNOW EACH OTHER

Yeah, I don’t think Drumpf knows this tidbit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:07:53pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:09:28pm
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Sir John Barron  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:12:13pm

re: #6 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Yeah, I don’t think Drumpf knows this tidbit.

What’s this? But I read his memo about me being able to obstruct justice! I wouldn’t have nominated him if I knew he knew and friended Mueller!

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Sir John Barron  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:12:41pm

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

Took me a couple of secs….

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:13:32pm

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m afraid I don’t get the joke, and no one on that thread explained it. Apparently I’m too slow.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:14:51pm

re: #11 Anymouse ??

Okay, my wife explained it to me. “Labour union.”

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sagehen  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:14:57pm

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

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wonder if he’s got a prenup….

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:14:57pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:18:25pm

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wow, that’s going to be a big ass settlement.

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:18:33pm
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Sir John Barron  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:22:56pm

re: #14 Single-handed sailor

“There’s a crisis, terrible crisis, only national security emergency order will fix, but first to Davos.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:23:16pm

Interesting. Someone has edited the Wikipedia article on US Goverenment shutdowns to make it less aggressive against his Orangeness.

Among other things it now states there were only 2 shutdowns in 2018 instead of 3.

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makeitstop  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:24:54pm

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

Interesting. Someone has edited the Wikipedia article on US Goverenment shutdowns to make it less aggressive against his Orangeness.

Among other things it now states there were only 2 shutdowns in 2018 instead of 3.

Well, if they mean fiscal years…

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Sea Mexican  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:25:47pm

re: #11 Anymouse ??

I’m afraid I don’t get the joke, and no one on that thread explained it. Apparently I’m too slow.

Bezos is quite against unions.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:27:45pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:30:14pm

Bolsonaro is still “officially” Catholic but he attends a Baptist church.

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fern01  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:32:03pm

re: #16 FormerDirtDart ????

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If there is any way California can stop paying Federal taxes - they should do it now. trump is evil - no other word so defines who he is.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:32:05pm
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:32:37pm

re: #22 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Seems this is a good response:

Link between brain damage and religious fundamentalism established by scientists.

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:33:07pm

WARNING
It’s going to get very dusty where you’re sitting

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:33:57pm

re: #21 Backwoods_Sleuth

Do yourself a favor and don’t look at the comments on that second tweet.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:33:58pm

re: #22 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Bolsonaro is still “officially” Catholic but he attends a Baptist church.

We need to tell evangelicals that Brazil is trying to steal God from them.

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:35:00pm

re: #22 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Bolsonaro is still “officially” Catholic but he attends a Baptist church.

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Sick of these Pulpit Pimps.

Tax the Churches!!!!!!!!

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sizzzzlerz  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:36:19pm

re: #13 sagehen

If not, he’s going to be writing a check with a whole lot of numbers on it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:36:22pm
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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:38:29pm
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Flying Squirrel Girl  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:38:55pm

re: #21 Backwoods_Sleuth

If Republicans are totally unified, why didn’t they do wall when they still had control of all three branches?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:40:25pm

re: #31 The Vicious Babushka

Lunch: Chickpea Tacos

you post us recipe, no?

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Targetpractice  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:41:22pm

Things are gonna get interesting after Friday, because after then the whole “It’ll be okay, this will all be over soon” bit no longer becomes tenable. Tens of thousands of federal employees who’ve been working without pay for 3 weeks are gonna flip the fuck out because there’s no end in sight and they can’t keep spending money to keep a job that’s not paying them anything.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:41:24pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:41:40pm

re: #33 Flying Squirrel Girl

If Republicans are totally unified, why didn’t they do wall when they still had control of all three branches?

Because, as has been noted earlier, a lot of Republicans don’t want it, especially those on the border states. They know that it will be expensive, unpopular and generally useless.

But it is not about building a wall, it is about the symbolism of The Wall

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gwangung  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:43:15pm

re: #37 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because, as has been noted earlier, a lot of Republicans don’t want it, especially those on the border states. They know that it will be expensive, unpopular and generally useless.

But it is not about building a wall, it is about the symbolism of The Wall

As somebody put it, “You know, any section of a steel barrier wall that wasn’t closely guarded around the clock would quickly be cut up and trucked away to be sold for its scrap metal value.”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:44:05pm

re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I recognize Conway, Sanders, Miller and the Kushners; who are the other three?

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:44:09pm
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makeitstop  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:44:19pm

Here we go…

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:44:30pm

WORLD’S GREATEST NEGOTIATOR (LOL)

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:44:39pm

re: #33 Flying Squirrel Girl

If Republicans are totally unified, why didn’t they do wall when they still had control of all three branches?

The argument I’ve seen is that was pointless, as they didn’t have enough votes to override a filibuster in the Senate: in other words, an excuse.

The real answer is conservatives cannot govern. Not today, not last month, not ever.

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lawhawk  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:44:45pm

re: #38 gwangung

The Border Patrol had issues with a concrete wall, because it made it impossible to see actions on the other side, which is why wall became a fence. Any wall would require constant patrols and manpower, which is a cost that Trump ignores when he claims that it’ll pay for itself (it wont, just like the tax cuts didn’t pay for themselves).

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Targetpractice  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:45:39pm

re: #33 Flying Squirrel Girl

If Republicans are totally unified, why didn’t they do wall when they still had control of all three branches?

Because it was Trump’s hill to die on, not theirs. They went along with the whole “BUILD THE WALL!” malarkey because it won them the presidency. But they had bigger fish to fry, whether it was launching an ultimately fruitless attempt to repeal the ACA or passing a massive tax giveaway. They always had something more important to get through the Senate than getting wall funding, because they knew that the time and political capital spent trying to get that funding would be a total waste in the end.

Now? Now the bill has come due and they have no fucking clue how to get out of it. They’d hoped that the base would be happy with $1.6B and assurances that the wall was being built, but Fox News called them on it and Donny freaked out before the bill could be signed. So they’ve got no Plan B, no exit strategy, just a shutdown they didn’t want over a wall they never wanted to fight over.

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:46:55pm

Trump wants furloughed employees to quit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:47:06pm

re: #39 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I recognize Conway, Sanders, Miller and the Kushners; who are the other three?

Bill Shine and Dan Scavino. I don’t know who the woman is at far right.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:47:17pm
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wrenchwench  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:49:20pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

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Was Schumer’s orange tie a factor?

We can only speculate.

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lawhawk  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:50:35pm

re: #42 The Vicious Babushka

Any negotiator with even moderate skill could find a compromise position here.

But that requires giving something up to get something.

We’ve seen various kinds of deals proposed - DACA for a few billion dollars for the wall. Heck, you could propose $1 billion for border security initiatives in exchange for VAWA, DACA, and VRA updated. He can call that $1 billion whatever he wants (not like he isn’t already lying about everything else), but we get actual advancements on women’s rights, voting rights, and immigration issues despite Trump’s insolence and tantrums. And once we see that the money isn’t being spent, reappropriate it back to social programs and to help clear the immigration backlog (where the money really should be going - not to some private prison complex).

Thing is that Trump is so egotistical and reactionary that any deal could be undone at a moment’s notice by the Fox crowd shouting in his ear. That’s how we got this shutdown too - because Trump heard that he was getting whacked by Pelosi and Schumer and got nothing in return.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:51:21pm

re: #40 FormerDirtDart ????

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Fuck it, just sell your first born!

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lawhawk  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:51:27pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:52:09pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:52:33pm

re: #49 wrenchwench

….I’m packed

and on the road

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:52:42pm

LOLWUT?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:53:30pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:55:55pm
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Citizen K  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:56:39pm

re: #55 Anymouse ??

LOLWUT?

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The sheer amount of utopian thinking around the wall, literally treating it as some cure-all for all crime, is just….wow.

What exactly about the wall would fix human trafficking, even specifically that on the southern border? They seem to literally believe that there’s just masses of people streaming across every mile of the border like it’s the world’s longest finish line and they’re on the final 5 meters of a 100m dash.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:57:21pm

re: #46 Joe Bacon ??

Trump wants furloughed employees to quit.

I imagine Libertarians do too. They’ve been after the FDA forever, claiming it should be shut down because it interferes with the “free market.” Get poisoned by a bad drug or food, then you sue. Of course, you can’t do that if your dead.

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wrenchwench  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:57:32pm

re: #54 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

….I’m packed

and on the road

Yay!

I’m glad you remembered to pack.

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Targetpractice  Jan 9, 2019 • 12:59:34pm

“The president wants to solve this problem,” says the scum-sucking leech now talking. Which is why Donny got up and left the meeting the moment he was told he’d get no guaranteed money in 30 days.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:00:56pm

re: #34 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

you post us recipe, no?

Here ya go.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:02:14pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:02:15pm

gaaaaaah

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:05:06pm

re: #51 Eventual Carrion

Fuck it, just sell your first born!

Or a kidney. Hey, you have two!

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Mike Lamb  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:05:11pm

Schumer hadn’t exactly covered himself in glory towards the end of the last legislative session, but I feel like he’s doing a good job in these negotiations and the post-“negotiation” pressers. Maybe Pelosi lent him a spine?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:05:47pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:06:40pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

gaaaaaah

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He thinks Russian bots are “patriots”

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Mike Lamb  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:07:33pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

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Well, I’m not sure how Schumer mischaracterized anything. Trump’s tweet tracks almost perfectly with what Schumer described.

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wrenchwench  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:07:52pm
Dr. Bernice Sandler, ‘Godmother Of Title IX,’ Dies At 90

RIP.

Mr. w is taking a nap on the couch, heard the above announced while he’s half asleep, and called me out there to tell me, ‘Bernie Sanders died! Was he 90?!?’

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Targetpractice  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:07:59pm

Negotiations in “good faith” or at least trying to maintain the illusion of such would involve lowering the demands, not raising them while screaming the other side won’t put a counter-offer on the table.

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:08:03pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:08:23pm

I have solved the problem of the tortilla falling apart while I eat it. If I fry the tortillas for about 1 minute in a drop of olive oil they hold together much better.

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Targetpractice  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:11:06pm

The other issue with this BS about the GOP negotiating in “good faith” is they’re not saying “We’re open to negotiating the figure,” they’re digging in by claiming that’s the figure “necessary” for border security. When you say (in effect) “Our demands are non-negotiable,” then the only thing you’re signaling an interest in negotiating is the terms of the other party’s surrender.

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wrenchwench  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:11:13pm

re: #62 The Vicious Babushka

Here ya go.

Bogus! The avocado is not mentioned, not even as a ‘serving suggestion’.

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darthstar  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:11:51pm

It really was a pathetic speech.

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lawhawk  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:15:36pm

Another formulation of negotiating to a solution:

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:16:03pm

re: #58 Citizen K

The sheer amount of utopian thinking around the wall, literally treating it as some cure-all for all crime, is just….wow.

What exactly about the wall would fix human trafficking, even specifically that on the southern border? They seem to literally believe that there’s just masses of people streaming across every mile of the border like it’s the world’s longest finish line and they’re on the final 5 meters of a 100m dash.

Then there’s all the Christian love (there are literally thousands of tweets from conservative Christians blaming lack of WALL on atheists, or calling migrants atheists, or whatnot):

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:16:54pm
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wrenchwench  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:19:22pm

re: #75 wrenchwench

Bogus! The avocado is not mentioned, not even as a ‘serving suggestion’.

Nevermind. I just rtwt.

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lawhawk  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:19:28pm
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Jay C  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:19:38pm

If our national “mainstream” media were doing its goddamn job, they’d be searching out actual Federal employees working without pay, and ask them if they agree with the Idiot-in-Chief’s opinion that they are all doing it/enduring it happily in order to ensure funding for The Wall.

But that probably wouldn’t be accepted, as it would violate the seemingly sacred journalistic principle of Bothsiderism.

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makeitstop  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:20:34pm

re: #79 Charles Johnson

Gotta think Trump is trying to work himself up to that national emergency he so clearly wants to declare. Will he have the cojones?

Seeing as how his Big Speech tanked and Pelosi and Schumer bested him in the ratings, I’d say he’s probably almost pissy enough to go ahead and do it.

Pelosi’s crack about asking Dad for more money might just send him over the edge.

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lawhawk  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:21:08pm

re: #79 Charles Johnson

Who’d talk him out of doing so?

I can imagine Miller in the lower levels of the West Wing wringing his hands in glee at the prospect of using those emergency powers to go after those nonwhites all around the country. Same as Trump.

It’d be an excuse to try and cram as much anti-American crap into as short a window as possible before the courts stay any of his actions (as if he’ll listen to what the courts say).

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Jay C  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:22:08pm

re: #81 lawhawk

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“Commie???” SRSLY??

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:24:10pm

re: #85 Jay C

“Commie???” SRSLY??

Why not “ComSymp?” How old is this guy?

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Jay C  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:26:20pm

re: #86 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Why not “ComSymp?” How old is this guy?

Not as old as those tired trite Red-baiting slurs the SMOTI likes to trot out…

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:26:36pm

re: #82 Jay C

If our national “mainstream” media were doing its goddamn job, they’d be searching out actual Federal employees working without pay, and ask them if they agree with the Idiot-in-Chief’s opinion that they are all doing it/enduring it happily in order to ensure funding for The Wall.

But that probably wouldn’t be accepted, as it would violate the seemingly sacred journalistic principle of Bothsiderism.

If they were doing their job, they’d be asking McConnell why he won’t bring up funding for a vote and have Congress do its job. And if he says “because the president won’t sign it” then ask him why he won’t let Congress override that veto.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:26:38pm

re: #11 Anymouse ??

I’m afraid I don’t get the joke, and no one on that thread explained it. Apparently I’m too slow.

He’s anti-union. Therefore he can’t be part of a union.

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lawhawk  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:26:44pm

re: #85 Jay C

You expected something different? Like a principled discussion of the costs of doing so?

Thing is that when you start doing a prinicpled analysis, you’d also have to point out that NYC delivers more money to the federal government than it gets back, and if you equalized the value back and forth, the NYC tax burden would drop significantly - freeing up even more money to do things like infrastructure and health coverage but places like Missouri would lose since they’re one of the bigger net takers.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:26:49pm

re: #79 Charles Johnson

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Let him. He’s fucked if he does. Not being able to negotiate a deal doesn’t make something a national emergency. Well, not to anyone other than my almost 5 year old and President Man Baby.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:27:15pm

Even my right-leaning regional newspaper is putting the word “crisis” (referring to the border) in scare quotes.

Dems say Trump walked out of shutdown meeting (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald, updated about five minutes ago)

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Mike Lamb  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:27:36pm

re: #81 lawhawk

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Most foreigners already have better access to health care…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:31:22pm

re: #87 Jay C

Not as old as those tired trite Red-baiting slurs the SMOTI likes to trot out…

Yeah, that was my point. He keeps using this Frank Burns Korean War terminology. Didn’t he say “ChiCom” a while back?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:33:18pm

Sometimes we need reminding that there’s a whole world of people whom it’s hard to believe tRump and the tRumporrhoids are the same species as. Scott Manley details Brian May’s research that earned him his doctorate—after a 35-year hiatus:

What Rock Star Brian May Discovered About Interplanetary Dust

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:33:21pm

re: #82 Jay C

If our national “mainstream” media were doing its goddamn job, they’d be searching out actual Federal employees working without pay, and ask them if they agree with the Idiot-in-Chief’s opinion that they are all doing it/enduring it happily in order to ensure funding for The Wall.

But that probably wouldn’t be accepted, as it would violate the seemingly sacred journalistic principle of Bothsiderism.

Really. How many trump supporting yokel stories did we get? From every corner of the country, how hard it is for them to date, etc, etc, etc.

But working Americans dedicating themselves to public service… Fuck them.

The next stories will be trump supporters who are public service employees who still support him, a la the father stories we saw. Because that’s apparently the only qualifier that matters.

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:36:55pm

re: #92 Anymouse ??

Even my right-leaning regional newspaper is putting the word “crisis” (referring to the border) in scare quotes.

Dems say Trump walked out of shutdown meeting (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald, updated about five minutes ago)

No comments. Too bad. I like to see what locals are saying.

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Kilroy was here  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:37:21pm

Chuck Schumer describes a meeting he just had with President Trump: “Unfortunately, the president just got up and walked out. He asked Speaker Pelosi, ‘Will you agree to my wall?’ She said no. And he just got up and said, ‘Then we have nothing to discuss,’ and he just walked out”

I think I see the problem…

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lawhawk  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:39:30pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:39:33pm
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Belafon  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:39:37pm

Schumer should announce on the Senate floor that since McConnell is abdicating his duty, Schumer will be leading the senate in a vote to end the shutdown.

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:41:05pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:41:41pm

Listening to Nicole Wallace’s show…and watching the progress of a big ol’ pot of chili.

Her guest Matthew Miller was talking about how the GOP Senators don’t want the wall and they are realizing the only way to get anywhere with the Orange Monster is to somehow let him declare a military emergency and give him his way, it won’t cost too much. He closed saying they are all loyal to the Republican Party.

Nicole quickly jumped in and said:

There is no Republican Party
The Republican Party is Dead
They are loyal to Trump

Music to my ears. And I know she is a Republican and nothing like that is probably going to happen. But music to my ears anyway.

(I put her comment in three lines…because is is poetic)

By the way…much discussion also on how Trump wanting to use the military to do something that polls show is not popular and use the military to go over and ignore the political process is 100% the move of an autocrat.

Yep…we got to get this ass out of the White House.

And I burned another contact to my buddy Rob Portman. Real sick of this shit.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:41:59pm

re: #96 MsJ

Really. How many trump supporting yokel stories did we get? From every corner of the country, how hard it is for them to date, etc, etc, etc.

But working Americans dedicating themselves to public service… Fuck them.

The next stories will be trump supporters who are public service employees who still support him, a la the father stories we saw. Because that’s apparently the only qualifier that matters.

We’re still getting them.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:42:37pm

Jane Kleeb (Nebraska Democratic Party chairwoman):

“Trump lied. Again. He promised during his campaign that Mexico would pay for his wall. Now he wants to saddle American taxpayers with the bill. His administration continues to lie and obfuscate the facts over border security to fan the flames of hysteria.

“And he seems content with shutting down much of the federal government because of his temper tantrum, which hurts the more than 800,0000 federal workers who are not being paid and denies vital services to the American people.

“It is, in a word, unconscionable. And Nebraska’s GOP congressional members — Sens. (Ben) Sasse and (Deb) Fischer and Reps. Bacon, (Jeff) Fortenberry and (Adrian) Smith — are in lock-step with Trump and follow along without making a peep.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:44:16pm
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lawhawk  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:45:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:45:56pm

re: #107 lawhawk

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Good. We don’t need another businessman who thinks the Presidency is the same as his business.

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lawhawk  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:46:26pm

re: #106 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ambassadors are there to make the job of Sec. State easy and guide the process. Trump’s gutted State and sabotaged their ability to do basic diplomacy.

This is a goal of GOP to sabotage functioning government. Trump’s doing what the GOP has sought to do for years. And they’re cheering him on still.

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TedStriker  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:46:27pm

re: #81 lawhawk

SMOTI thinks that improved health care access for residents of NYC is a bad thing.

NYC is already a destination because of our world class health care providers. He’s making it so people don’t get a medically induced bankruptcy because they need medical care.

— lawhawk (@lawhawk) January 9, 2019

re: #85 Jay C

“Commie???” SRSLY??

re: #86 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Why not “ComSymp?” How old is this guy?

re: #87 Jay C

Not as old as those tired trite Red-baiting slurs the SMOTI likes to trot out…

Hoft is a real-life Frank Burns/Colonel Flagg; I’m surprised he hasn’t said “better dead than red” yet.

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:48:20pm

Holy crap
I knew this guy for years. He was with the OPFOR platoon when I was an instructor at Ranger School, and he was one of my squad leaders when I was a First Sergeant with the 173rd in Italy. I saw that image a few times, and it didn’t connect. But, someone from back in the day sent me word that he was hearing it was Rod’. Then I saw the second image in the article, where you can actually see some of his face.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:48:30pm

re: #110 TedStriker

Hoft is a real-life Frank Burns/Colonel Flagg; I’m surprised he hasn’t said “better dead than red” yet.

Those sick foreigners and pregnant women have money. They’ll spend it in New York. Thanks SMOTI for showing how to shoot your argument in the foot.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:48:46pm

A Utica, New York man was arraigned in court for chopping up his grandmother and landlady, as they were atheists.

re: #110 TedStriker

Hoft is a real-life Frank Burns/Colonel Flagg; I’m surprised he hasn’t said “better dead than red” yet.

Republicans have moved on, now Better Russian than Democrat.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:48:58pm

re: #110 TedStriker

Hoft is a real-life Frank Burns; I’m surprised he hasn’t said “better dead than red” yet.

“Now, if you would offer tax breaks, then you’d get the very best foreigners and Americans and not pregnant womenz.”

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:49:01pm

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bill Shine and Dan Scavino. I don’t know who the woman is at far right.

Probably answered already…but that is Mercedes Schlapp.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:52:40pm

re: #74 Targetpractice

The other issue with this BS about the GOP negotiating in “good faith” is they’re not saying “We’re open to negotiating the figure,” they’re digging in by claiming that’s the figure “necessary” for border security. When you say (in effect) “Our demands are non-negotiable,” then the only thing you’re signaling an interest in negotiating is the terms of the other party’s surrender.

How come Dems won’t negotiate or compromise with Donnie’s non-negotiable demands?

/

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:55:19pm

Something to help you sleep tonight.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:55:21pm
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lawhawk  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:56:53pm

Why am I not surprised that the misogynist Trump spoke over Pelosi repeatedly?

He is threatened by women who are strong and stand up to his baffling BS.

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:57:51pm

re: #103 ObserverArt

I’m a first class c**t. I will never forgive these people. Not Nicole. Not Steve. Not Rick. Not Bill. Not David. Not Jennifer. Not Michael. Not any of the ones I didn’t mention.

They built this.

They supported this.

They lied about us. About everything.

They made us The Enemy.

They went on Fox and built THAT.

This is their disaster to own like a boss.

And what’s the cherry on top of the two-slice shit pie? When given the chance, they still do it.

They fucking broke America.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:57:59pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson ?

@Green_Footballs
TRUMP BROUGHT CANDY

4:01 PM - Jan 9, 2019

McCarthy is, again…a lightweight.

And he is the Republican Minority Leader.

That tells you the state of the Republicans.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:58:19pm

The idea it’s just Evangelicals who supported Trump over Clinton is debunked by polling.

All faiths (except Jews and Mormons) have steadily increased their support for Republicans, including Trump. Evangelicals didn’t even have the largest shift. That went to “other faiths” (-12 for Clinton) and “Hispanic Catholics” (-8 for Clinton).

pewresearch.org

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:59:02pm

re: #119 lawhawk

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Why am I not surprised that the misogynist Trump spoke over Pelosi repeatedly?

He is threatened by women who are strong and stand up to his baffling BS.

Reminds me of his little tantrum with Merkel where he threw starbursts at her. Man he’s an embarrassment not just as our President or even as an American but man to man.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 9, 2019 • 1:59:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:00:11pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:01:41pm

He’s so obssessed with that stupid wall. At this point he’s practically daring the GOP to step up and stop him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:01:49pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:02:43pm

re: #66 Mike Lamb

Schumer hadn’t exactly covered himself in glory towards the end of the last legislative session, but I feel like he’s doing a good job in these negotiations and the post-“negotiation” pressers. Maybe Pelosi lent him a spine?

You mean the last legislative session that was controlled by the Republicans because they had overwhelming voting numbers to ignore Schumer?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:03:44pm

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He has no idea about the border. He’s obsessed with his view of immigration being the only right one. And he’s a man we know doesn’t read and likes having his biases reenforced. Impeach the motherfucking son of a bitch.

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ipsos  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:03:58pm

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Many years ago, I had a cool summer job as a tour guide at the Old North Church. The sexton was well into his 80s even then, and had lived through the molasses disaster as a young man. The stories he told were amazing.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:05:33pm

re: #122 Anymouse ??

The idea it’s just Evangelicals who supported Trump over Clinton is debunked by polling.

All faiths (except Jews and Mormons) have steadily increased their support for Republicans, including Trump. Evangelicals didn’t even have the largest shift. That went to “other faiths” (-12 for Clinton) and “Hispanic Catholics” (-8 for Clinton).

pewresearch.org

I’ll have to look later, but is that taking into account how much those groups are shrinking?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:06:04pm

re: #130 ipsos

Many years ago, I had a cool summer job as a tour guide at the Old North Church. The sexton was well into his 80s even then, and had lived through the molasses disaster as a young man. The stories he told were amazing

It’s neat when you can talk to people who were eyewitness to history like that. My moms parents survived the second Johnstown flood. It’s not as famous as the 1889 one but they survived it. And according to my Dad’s cousin, their grandmother’s aunt survived the great one.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:06:30pm

No President in history has managed to piss more people off at the same time as Trump has.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:07:04pm

re: #133 Eclectic Cyborg

No President in history has managed to piss more people off at the same time as Trump has.

His supporters think that’s a positive not a negative as do he and his advisers.

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:07:37pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:08:33pm

re: #135 MsJ

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Go for it Jimmy.

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wrenchwench  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:11:12pm

re: #135 MsJ

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No thinking! No more ‘thoughts’! Just prayers and fasts!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:11:56pm
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Belafon  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:13:02pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

“We need a wall to get our sailor back!”

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KGxvi  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:13:44pm

re: #131 Belafon

I’ll have to look later, but is that taking into account how much those groups are shrinking?

Just looking at it now, it’s interesting.

The Mormon improvement is a bit more complicated than “+4” to Clinton. Romney won Mormons 78-21 in 2012, Trump won them 61-25 (I suspect a lot of that has to do with McMullin getting 21% of the vote in Utah.

It does include a percentage of the electorate chart, which shows unaffiliated grew by 3% from 2012. Interestingly, 51% of respondents attend religious services less than monthly (either “never” or “a few times a year”); and the more often you attend religious services, the more likely you were to vote for Trump.

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:13:55pm

Goddamn insanity.

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KGxvi  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:16:22pm

re: #140 KGxvi

Also worth noting the “other faiths” number that shows a -12 for Clinton, Trump only improved by 6 points from Romney, the other half apparently went to third party candidates.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:16:35pm

re: #128 ObserverArt

You mean the last legislative session that was controlled by the Republicans because they had overwhelming voting numbers to ignore Schumer?

Yeah, Schumer gets an incredible amount of flak for being able to count. He got a few very small concessions in return for not making things as difficult as possible on some issues, which was all he had the power to do.

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:16:55pm
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KGxvi  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:17:47pm

re: #144 MsJ

Wait, isn’t that the plot to A Few Good Men?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:18:28pm

I got nothing…

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:19:59pm

re: #145 KGxvi

Wait, isn’t that the plot to A Few Good Men?

Is it? Really? I never saw that.

If not, it’s a story right out of a NCIS script.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:20:34pm

re: #131 Belafon

I’ll have to look later, but is that taking into account how much those groups are shrinking?

I presume no. It was exit polling which asked what faith each voter adheres to.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:20:42pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:21:09pm

re: #143 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Yeah, Schumer gets an incredible amount of flak for being able to count. He got a few very small concessions in return for not making things as difficult as possible on some issues, which was all he had the power to do.

I prefer Pelosi but Schumer is all right. I’m willing to give him a shot to govern as Majority Leader hopefully starting in 2021.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:22:07pm

re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I guess that’s why while we should respect the military, we shouldn’t worship it either.

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wrenchwench  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:22:41pm

re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth

[gutted out punching bags]

The bag that punches back.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:22:43pm

re: #147 MsJ

Is it? Really? I never saw that.

If not, it’s a story right out of a NCIS script.

Iirc AFGM involves a murder cover up by Nicholson’s character.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:23:08pm

re: #128 ObserverArt

You mean the last legislative session that was controlled by the Republicans because they had overwhelming voting numbers to ignore Schumer?

Yes, the last legislative session where he cut deals to allow judges to be confirmed, as an example, because he and others wanted to be able to go home.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:23:43pm
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freetoken  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:24:09pm

This also happened today:

Representative reintroduces impeachment articles against President Donald Trump

Pelosi will probably want to hold off until Mueller is ready to report more.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:25:34pm

re: #156 freetoken

This also happened today:

Representative reintroduces impeachment articles against President Donald Trump

Pelosi will probably want to hold off until Mueller is ready to report more.

Or until trump tries to declare a national emergency.

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:25:35pm

Apparently you are all correct because there’s a ton on YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH responses to that tweet.

I’m so culturally challenged sometimes.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:25:43pm

re: #156 freetoken

This also happened today:

Representative reintroduces impeachment articles against President Donald Trump

Pelosi will probably want to hold off until Mueller is ready to report more.

Yep and she’ll take flak for that but it’s the right move.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:25:52pm

re: #111 FormerDirtDart ????

Holy crap
I knew this guy for years. He was with the OPFOR platoon when I was an instructor at Ranger School, and he was one of my squad leaders when I was a First Sergeant with the 173rd in Italy. I saw that image a few times, and it didn’t connect. But, someone from back in the day sent me word that he was hearing it was Rod’. Then I saw the second image in the article, where you can actually see some of his face.

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My God….

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freetoken  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:26:22pm
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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:29:00pm

re: #154 Mike Lamb

Yes, the last legislative session where he cut deals to allow judges to be confirmed, as an example, because he and others wanted to be able to go home.

To go home and campaign for election. McConnell specifically said he wanted to keep Democrats from campaigning against Republicans.

Context is important.

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:29:11pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:29:34pm

re: #161 freetoken

Update on this story from the other day:

TEXAS REPUBLICANS WILL VOTE ON WHETHER TO REMOVE MUSLIM-AMERICAN FROM GOP POSITION BECAUSE OF HIS RELIGION

If that guy had any brains, he’d left the party as soon as this was announced. What a pile of dicks. I’m sure he’s no prize either obviously but still.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:30:03pm

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

But do any of these bills stand a chance in the Senate??

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:32:39pm

So I tweet about twitchy.com being a wretched sewer that exists only to incite harassment, immediately get barraged with insults and dumbass comments from Twitchy fans, proving my point. This is how a Trump fan finds amusement, I guess.

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:32:55pm

re: #164 HappyWarrior

If that guy had any brains, he’d left the party as soon as this was announced. What a pile of dicks. I’m sure he’s no prize either obviously but still.

Obviously.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:34:09pm

re: #166 Charles Johnson

So I tweet about twitchy.com being a wretched sewer that exists only to incite harassment, immediately get barraged with insults and dumbass comments from Twitchy fans, proving my point. This is how a Trump fan finds amusement, I guess.

It’s essy to forget Malkim sometimes because of all the other horrible people who have risen to prominence in that movement in recent years but I’ll always remember her as an apologist for interning Japanese Americans during WWII.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:34:29pm

re: #167 MsJ

Obviously.

He is a Republican after all.

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:34:44pm

re: #165 Eclectic Cyborg

But do any of these bills stand a chance in the Senate??

Maybe. Republicans know they’ll be crushed of refunds are withheld. Crushed. Decimated. Destroyed.

At some point out has to get through that government matters. Perhaps we all have to have garage sales for that to happen.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:34:45pm

re: #165 Eclectic Cyborg

But do any of these bills stand a chance in the Senate??

That depends. As each bill (simply cut out from the Senate bill passed in the last election 100-0) comes up and McConnell refuses to put it on the floor, another Democratic talking point and advert is born.

FAA: The Republicans don’t want you to travel safely.
FDA: The Republicans don’t want you to have safe food and drugs.
FTC: The Republicans don’t want you to have safe consumer products.
Coast Guard: The Republicans don’t want you to have water safety, drug interdiction, and less crime.
&c

There are now four Republicans who say they are on-board with re-opening the government in the Senate. In theory, that’s enough to force votes.

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:35:58pm

re: #171 Anymouse ??

That depends. As each bill (simply cut out from the Senate bill passed in the last election 100-0) comes up and McConnell refuses to put it on the floor, another Democratic talking point and advert is born.

FAA: The Republicans don’t want you to travel safely.
FDA: The Republicans don’t want you to have safe food and drugs.
FTC: The Republicans don’t want you to have safe consumer products.
Coast Guard: The Republicans don’t want you to have water safety, drug interdiction, and crime.
&c

There are now four Republicans who say they are on-board with re-opening the government in the Senate. In theory, that’s enough to force votes.

That’s already happened.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:36:03pm

re: #165 Eclectic Cyborg

But do any of these bills stand a chance in the Senate??

1. McConnell isn’t bringing them up for a vote.
2. Right now, we’re playing in the court of public opinion against Trump. If his numbers start tanking, he’ll either give up or the rest of the GOP will. It’s good to have the House, meaning Democrats, go on record showing they want to reopen the government.

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freetoken  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:36:32pm

They daily NYT Democrats-are-divided story:

Democrats Focus on Shutdown’s Cost and Steer Away From Trump’s Wall

[…]

But while they are almost all opposed to the idea of a wall between the United States and Mexico — which is unpopular among a majority of Americans and strongly opposed by Democratic voters, and which has been dismissed as ineffective by border security experts — Democrats are less united about what form of border security they do support.

[…]

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:37:01pm

re: #172 MsJ

That’s already happened.

And they’ve expired since the new session of Congress started.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:37:25pm

re: #162 Anymouse ??

To go home and campaign for election. McConnell specifically said he wanted to keep Democrats from campaigning against Republicans.

Context is important.

He’s actually done that more that once. And I’m pretty sure McConnell kept them in session anyways.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:38:19pm

re: #170 MsJ

Maybe. Republicans know they’ll be crushed of refunds are withheld. Crushed. Decimated. Destroyed.

At some point out has to get through that government matters. Perhaps we all have to have garage sales for that to happen.

Moreover, Republican supporters in unfunded departments are being reminded who’s withholding their paychecks.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:38:50pm

re: #171 Anymouse ??

That depends. As each bill (simply cut out from the Senate bill passed in the last election 100-0) comes up and McConnell refuses to put it on the floor, another Democratic talking point and advert is born.

FAA: The Republicans don’t want you to travel safely.
FDA: The Republicans don’t want you to have safe food and drugs.
FTC: The Republicans don’t want you to have safe consumer products.
Coast Guard: The Republicans don’t want you to have water safety, drug interdiction, and crime.
&c

There are now four Republicans who say they are on-board with re-opening the government in the Senate. In theory, that’s enough to force votes.

hi i just got here

it’s up to eight

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:43:05pm

re: #176 Mike Lamb

He’s actually done that more that once. And I’m pretty sure McConnell kept them in session anyways.

Yes he has. So you’re left with this situation:

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) suggested Friday that he could keep lawmakers in Washington until the end of October if Democrats seek to slow or block the confirmation of President Trump’s judicial nominees.

Stay and oppose them and bring up their flaws, or go campaign but give the Republicans a super-majority while you’re out campaigning.

Couple that with McConnell removing the blue slip process they abused during the Obama Presidency, and there’s not a whole lot the minority party can do.

With the worst Senate map in a century, Democrats were able to hold losses to two seats. Imagine what might have happened without the ability to campaign and meet constituents.

McConnell was going to get his judges in any case. How would Schumer stop that?

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KGxvi  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:43:35pm

re: #147 MsJ

Is it? Really? I never saw that.

If not, it’s a story right out of a NCIS script.

A Few Good Men is about the court martial of two Marines stationed at Guantanamo Bay because another Marine mysteriously dies. I’ll put the rest behind the spoiler tag, even if I’m not sure you can spoil something that is 27 years old

Turns out there’s a cover up because the commanding officer (played by Nicholson) ordered a “code red” - basically hazing, that resulted in the Marine dying. Tom Cruise, Demi Moore, and Kevin Pollak are the rag tag defense team that uncover the conspiracy, leading to the famous “you want the truth? you can’t handle the truth” scene

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Interesting Times  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:45:12pm

This would never happen, but oh, if only it did:

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:45:16pm

re: #178 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

hi i just got here

it’s up to eight

That’s eight Representatives; I was referring to Senators.

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Jay C  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:47:20pm

re: #178 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

hi i just got here

it’s up to eight

Yeah, well we’ll have to wait and see. And I wouldn’t hold my breath until I see/hear any solid news from Mitch McConnell: I think it’s going to take more than just eight waverers to get him to move squat in the Senate.
I think.

ADD : posted before I saw #182

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:49:10pm

re: #182 Anymouse ??

That’s eight Representatives; I was referring to Senators.

oops
i just got here

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:50:38pm

re: #97 MsJ

No comments. Too bad. I like to see what locals are saying.

Comments in my newspaper are only by Letter to the Editor.

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KGxvi  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:51:29pm

re: #179 Anymouse ??

The Democrats up in 2020 are (mostly) in safe seats. Doug Jones is the only one in a +R PVI rated state. New Hampshire is even, Virginia, Minnesota, and Michigan are D+1; New Mexico is D+3; Oregon is D+5. Republicans have to defend 6 seats that are rated R+5 or more Democratic (including two that are rated +D)

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:52:17pm
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Mike Lamb  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:53:00pm

re: #179 Anymouse ??

Yes he has. So you’re left with this situation:

Stay and oppose them and bring up their flaws, or go campaign but give the Republicans a super-majority while you’re out campaigning.

Couple that with McConnell removing the blue slip process they abused during the Obama Presidency, and there’s not a whole lot the minority party can do.

With the worst Senate map in a century, Democrats were able to hold losses to two seats. Imagine what might have happened without the ability to campaign and meet constituents.

McConnell was going to get his judges in any case. How would Schumer stop that?

Not every Dem was running for re-election. And there being less Dems present doesn’t give the GOP a super-majority.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:54:06pm

Fucking hypocrites, goddamned conservatives.

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KGxvi  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:54:53pm

re: #188 Mike Lamb

Not every Dem was running for re-election. And there being less Dems present doesn’t give the GOP a super-majority.

Good point, and more Republicans are up in 2020 than Democrats. At least some of them will probably want to go home to campaign, especially in a presidential cycle when turnout will be higher.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:55:48pm
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MsJ  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:56:12pm

re: #178 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

hi i just got here

it’s up to eight

It doesn’t matter. Can anyone but McConnell bring it to the floor?

This is Republican cover. Sounds good but doesn’t matter at all.

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sagehen  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:57:53pm

re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The reason CIA/NSA types (and I suppose probably some military) got away with that sort of thing in the 80’s is because they had their own dedicated airfields, never had to go through customs.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:58:31pm

re: #187 FormerDirtDart ????

The master negotiator, ladies and gentlemen.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:59:08pm

re: #186 KGxvi

The Democrats up in 2020 are (mostly) in safe seats. Doug Jones is the only one in a +R PVI rated state. New Hampshire is even, Virginia, Minnesota, and Michigan are D+1; New Mexico is D+3; Oregon is D+5. Republicans have to defend 6 seats that are rated R+5 or more Democratic (including two that are rated +D)

Virginia should be fine. Warner won’t mess up like he did in 2014.

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wrenchwench  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:59:10pm

re: #184 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

oops
i just got here

Unpack.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2019 • 2:59:35pm

Also, likelihood of Doug Jones losing his next election? High.

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:01:02pm

Maybe girly stuff but this interview with Melissa McCarthy is great.

And she looks mah-velous!!

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:01:34pm

For the four Republican senators who claim they are interested in opening the government again, I would be more impressed if one of them lead a leadership fight to remove McConnell.

I wouldn’t expect the GOP to support a Democrat in that position, but Collins, Murkowski, Isakson, and Capito (the ones who are calling for the government to be reopened) could put one of themselves forward.

I suspect if this goes on long enough they might, though you might wind up with a split between GOP senators who support McConnell or one of the others.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:01:49pm
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William Lewis  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:02:06pm

re: #28 Belafon

We need to tell evangelicals that Brazil is trying to steal God from them.

No! Tell them they need to all move there and help him.

That way we can make America into a much better place without them.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:02:27pm

re: #197 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, likelihood of Doug Jones losing his next election? High.

We got lucky there.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:03:24pm

re: #199 Anymouse ??

For the four Republican senators who claim they are interested in opening the government again, I would be more impressed if one of them lead a leadership fight to remove McConnell.

I wouldn’t expect the GOP to support a Democrat in that position, but Collins, Murkowski, Isakson, and Capito (the ones who are calling for the government to be reopened) could put one of themselves forward.

I suspect if this goes on long enough they might, though you might wind up with a split between GOP senators who support McConnell or one of the others.

I’d love to see Mitch have to worry about losing his position.

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:04:13pm

re: #200 teleskiguy

I tried to read that article but my app crashed and I can’t get it back. Sounded very interesting.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:06:16pm

Evening Lizardim from the windy and bitterly cold wild north country. I see the government is still shut down, but the Shitgibbon-in-Chief has not blown the country to smithereens, so… yay us? How go things among the lizardfolk on this truly wintry day?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:06:27pm

Bet you Trump will declare the national emergency late on Friday or Saturday.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:06:30pm
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MsJ  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:07:34pm
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William Lewis  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:10:12pm

Just got back from celebrating my son’s 17th birthday.

Time flies, etc, etc.

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:10:42pm
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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:11:23pm

re: #188 Mike Lamb

Not every Dem was running for re-election. And there being less Dems present doesn’t give the GOP a super-majority.

That’s true as far as it goes (not a super-majority). The Senate before the election was R-52, D-46, I-2.

Democrats had 24 seats up for re?lection. Both independents were also up.

If those 26 had taken off with the Senate in session to campaign, that would be R-52, D-22, I-0 in the Senate during the campaign.

And again, Schumer couldn’t stop anyone Mitch McConnell wanted to put up. He traded campaign time for what McConnell already had. All it would have done is increase the Republican majority when they were passing votes on simple majorities.

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:12:28pm

re: #210 MsJ

The Democratic-led House approved a bill Wednesday to reopen the Treasury Department, Internal Revenue Service and Small Business Administration, among other federal agencies.

The chamber voted 240-188 to advance the measure, with eight Republicans bucking party lines to back the bill, which is the first of four bills expected to be brought to the floor by Democrats.

The Republicans who voted to advance the measure Wednesday included Reps. Elise Stefanik (N.Y.), Will Hurd (Texas), Fred Upton (Mich.), John Katko (N.Y.), Brian Fitzpatrick (Pa.), Greg Walden (Ore.), Adam Kinzinger (Ill.) and Herrera Beutler (Wash.).

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:12:50pm

re: #204 MsJ

I tried to read that article but my app crashed and I can’t get it back. Sounded very interesting.

nationalgeographic.com

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:15:31pm

re: #120 MsJ

I’m a first class c**t. I will never forgive these people. Not Nicole. Not Steve. Not Rick. Not Bill. Not David. Not Jennifer. Not Michael. Not any of the ones I didn’t mention.

They built this.

They supported this.

They lied about us. About everything.

They made us The Enemy.

They went on Fox and built THAT.

This is their disaster to own like a boss.

And what’s the cherry on top of the two-slice shit pie? When given the chance, they still do it.

They fucking broke America.

Awww…c’mon MsJ.

I hate them too, but can’t you appreciate what fun it is to hear some of these former Republicans saying stuff like their party is dead?

That is all I meant.

I’ve never heard Republicans talk like this. And if what you say is correct (not doubting) then this is actual Republicans saying their party is dead.

I love it!

And I’d like to help further make sure we can stick some stakes in it so it does die.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:18:47pm

re: #214 ObserverArt

Awww…c’mon MsJ.

I hate them too, but can’t you appreciate what fun it is to hear some of these former Republicans saying stuff like their party is dead?

That is all I meant.

I’ve never heard Republicans talk like this. And if what you say is correct (not doubting) then this is actual Republicans saying their party is dead.

I love it!

And I’d like to help further make sure we can stick some stakes in it so it does die.

I was going to say. I won’t empathize with them, but I sure as hell will indulge in the schadenfreude. More please. Wingnut tears are the perfect chaser for the bourbon Mrs. Fish brought home.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:18:59pm

re: #122 Anymouse ??

The idea it’s just Evangelicals who supported Trump over Clinton is debunked by polling.

All faiths (except Jews and Mormons) have steadily increased their support for Republicans, including Trump. Evangelicals didn’t even have the largest shift. That went to “other faiths” (-12 for Clinton) and “Hispanic Catholics” (-8 for Clinton).

pewresearch.org

I bet those Hispanic Catholics are considering those voted now, because what is going on is not supported by the Catholic Church. That is unless they are fine with Hispanic mothers being separated from their children and having some of those kids die. Nothing Catholic/Christian about it.

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:19:47pm

re: #213 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

nationalgeographic.com

Thank you.

George the lonely tree snail has died. They’re now extinct. ????

nationalgeographic.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:23:03pm

Narrator’s Voice: He just pulled that lie out of his ass to look “tough”.

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:24:15pm

re: #214 ObserverArt

Awww…c’mon MsJ.

I hate them too, but can’t you appreciate what fun it is to hear some of these former Republicans saying stuff like their party is dead?

That is all I meant.

I’ve never heard Republicans talk like this. And if what you say is correct (not doubting) then this is actual Republicans saying their party is dead.

I love it!

And I’d like to help further make sure we can stick some stakes in it so it does die.

I know. And I can appreciate the sentiment. I just hate them so intensely for all their destruction I can’t get past it.

Maybe in remembrance of poor George (noted above, RIP 14 year old tree snail) we could salt the hell out of the Republican party. Although staking it through the heart is probably more apropos since they are all fucking bloodsuckers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:25:58pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:26:56pm

This is the biggest bunch of horseshit you will see all day==>

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:27:10pm
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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:27:54pm

The incumbent Democratic mayor of Lincoln, Nebr., is in an interesting position.

Republican politicians spearheaded a drive in Lincoln to term-limit the mayor of Lincoln to two terms, with no retroactive clause. That passed, meaning Mayor Chris Beutler cannot run for re?lection.

As such, he is now considering a run against Senator Ben Sasse. Republican Representative Jeff Fortenberry (R-NE1) is considering running a primary against Sen. Sasse.

Elections are already heating up here. Farmers and ranchers getting pounded by Sasse’s lock-step position on keeping the government shut will hurt him (and Fortenberry is also all-in on keeping the government shut as well).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:28:55pm
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jaunte  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:30:31pm

re: #221 The Vicious Babushka

“My physical appearance is so impressive it could change world history, but I don’t want to look vain, so I’ll say a friend told me.”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:31:58pm

re: #222 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This decision looks different in light of the new information that Deripaska was a conduit through which Manafort delivered campaign data to Russian Intelligence.

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:33:07pm

JFC - to both.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:33:25pm
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jaunte  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:33:27pm
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MsJ  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:35:20pm

re: #225 jaunte

“My physical appearance is so impressive it could change world history, but I don’t want to look vain, so I’ll say a friend told me.”

There is nothing Cruz could do to not look like the little shit weasel that he is.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:35:21pm

re: #222 Backwoods_Sleuth

NEW: Treasury Sec. Mnuchin agrees…

“Agrees”, his ass! Who is he to “agree”? They want him to testify he goddamn well testifies! The fucking arrogance of these vermin is absolutely infuriating!

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:35:57pm

re: #178 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

hi i just got here

it’s up to eight

Dangerman…it’s all good.

But, ‘mouse was talking about 4 Senators. Your link discusses House members.

We need more of both to start to show Trump up and put McConnell and McCarthy in tough spots.

And good luck on your Goofy Runs!

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:38:36pm

re: #179 Anymouse ??

Yes he has. So you’re left with this situation:

Stay and oppose them and bring up their flaws, or go campaign but give the Republicans a super-majority while you’re out campaigning.

Couple that with McConnell removing the blue slip process they abused during the Obama Presidency, and there’s not a whole lot the minority party can do.

With the worst Senate map in a century, Democrats were able to hold losses to two seats. Imagine what might have happened without the ability to campaign and meet constituents.

McConnell was going to get his judges in any case. How would Schumer stop that?

I’m thinking Mike just wanted to see more public fight, maybe some more anger and going on the attack in a public way.

That may not be Schumer. He is not the angry display type.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:38:42pm

re: #200 teleskiguy

Too far away: 1.5 billion light years from here. Not even in our galaxy or any neighboring ones. The signal was sent before there was any life on Earth.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:41:01pm

take a seat, mitch

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sagehen  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:41:23pm

re: #227 MsJ

JFC - to both.

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Reminder to this whacko — Illegal is not a noun.

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sagehen  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:42:22pm

re: #229 jaunte

Kevin McCarthy
?
@GOPLeader
The way that Democrats just behaved in our meeting at the @WhiteHouse is embarrassing. They need to get back into the room and get serious about solving the crisis at the border.

It’s not the Dems that walked out of the room.

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Targetpractice  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:43:00pm

re: #229 jaunte

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The President* just stormed out of the meeting after being told he’s not getting funding for his wall, declared the meeting a waste of his time, and declared that he won’t reopen the gov’t unless he gets what he wants.

To call Kevin McCarthy a scumbag would be an insult to bags of scum.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:43:02pm
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MsJ  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:45:39pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:47:26pm

re: #214 ObserverArt

Awww…c’mon MsJ.

I hate them too, but can’t you appreciate what fun it is to hear some of these former Republicans saying stuff like their party is dead?

That is all I meant.

I’ve never heard Republicans talk like this. And if what you say is correct (not doubting) then this is actual Republicans saying their party is dead.

I love it!

And I’d like to help further make sure we can stick some stakes in it so it does die.

Yes — the old Republican party is dead; in its place is the new fascist white nationalist Putin-loving party — which seems to be very alive and headed by Trump, the Putin-toady-in-chief .

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:47:47pm
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freetoken  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:47:59pm

re: #234 Hecuba’s daughter

Too far away: 1.5 billion light years from here. Not even in our galaxy or any neighboring ones. The signal was sent before there was any life on Earth.

Multicellular life anyway.

But back to the story - the lay person probably does not realize how much energy it takes to make an emission that can be detected even a light year away, not to mention a million, or a billion, light years away.

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:48:17pm
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MsJ  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:49:49pm

It never seems to go as planned these days.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:51:33pm

re: #221 The Vicious Babushka

This is the biggest bunch of horseshit you will see all day==>

[Embedded content]

No your beard is just a beard you stupid fuck.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:54:08pm

re: #192 MsJ

It doesn’t matter. Can anyone but McConnell bring it to the floor?

This is Republican cover. Sounds good but doesn’t matter at all.

Pressure on McConnell none-the-less. Eventually if enough people turn on him it puts him a place where they may want to remove Mitch as leader.

I know that is a stretch. but it is something to consider if this gets to a point where the Republicans in the Senate find it really is costing them.

And we really are seeing a unique time in politics. Unprecedented for our times, maybe even heading for first time history what could happen. At some point the knives are going to come out.

Not all of them have a state like Kentucky backing them. Mitch might not get much pressure from Kentuckians…though I don’t know why. He doesn’t so shit for them.

What needs to be done is to keep the heat on. That is why I contact Rob Portman so much and why I suggest we all contact Republican Senators in the states we reside.

Mitch needs to be feeling the heat. They all do.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:55:01pm

re: #243 freetoken

Multicellular life anyway.

But back to the story - the lay person probably does not realize how much energy it takes to make an emission that can be detected even a light year away, not to mention a million, or a billion, light years away.

You’re right — single cell organisms apparently evolved about 3.5 billion years ago; multi-cellular ones less than a billion years ago. The repeated burst is probably some natural phenomenon that we haven’t yet identified rather than little green men (and women).

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:56:11pm

re: #199 Anymouse ??

For the four Republican senators who claim they are interested in opening the government again, I would be more impressed if one of them lead a leadership fight to remove McConnell.

I wouldn’t expect the GOP to support a Democrat in that position, but Collins, Murkowski, Isakson, and Capito (the ones who are calling for the government to be reopened) could put one of themselves forward.

I suspect if this goes on long enough they might, though you might wind up with a split between GOP senators who support McConnell or one of the others.

I hadn’t seen your comment…a bit behind. Goes to my latest comment too.

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freetoken  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:56:41pm

re: #247 ObserverArt

I have no faith that the majority of the Republican Senators will put country above party.

A few here or there - especially those in swing states - may make noises… and huff and puff… but the GOP has over the past 10 to 20 years become more and more the white nationalist/Christian-nationalist party, as we can witness the effort to boot the Muslim Republican from the party down in Texas.

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:57:25pm

Accordion hands is one of his lying tells.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:58:12pm

re: #251 jaunte

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Accordion hands is one of his lying tells.

the senators look so enthused…

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2019 • 3:58:59pm

re: #209 William Lewis

Just got back from celebrating my son’s 17th birthday.

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Time flies, etc, etc.

Looks snowy outside that window.

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freetoken  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:01:16pm

Here’s the facebook page of the Christian nationalist in Tarrant county who are trying to oust Shafi:

facebook.com

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:03:37pm

re: #254 freetoken

Here’s the facebook page of the Christian nationalist in Tarrant county who are trying to oust Shafi:

facebook.com

There’s a load of crazy there. RINOs=Dems. Sure. WhatEv’s.

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freetoken  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:07:17pm

Here’s a good summary of what is going on in Tarrant county GOP land:

Texas governor weighs in on push to remove Muslim from Tarrant GOP post

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:07:51pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:08:00pm

re: #219 MsJ

I know. And I can appreciate the sentiment. I just hate them so intensely for all their destruction I can’t get past it.

Maybe in remembrance of poor George (noted above, RIP 14 year old tree snail) we could salt the hell out of the Republican party. Although staking it through the heart is probably more apropos since they are all fucking bloodsuckers.

Bring the garlic bulbs and I’ll bring the silver Catholic-priest-blessed cross.

Let’s make it a real dead party!

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freetoken  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:09:53pm

Trump’s disapproval still has yet to hit the high it did last April:

polling.reuters.com

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:10:39pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:10:56pm
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freetoken  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:11:38pm

Note that many more people are blaming the Democrats than blaming the Republicans in Congress:

polling.reuters.com

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:12:10pm

re: #233 ObserverArt

I’m thinking Mike just wanted to see more public fight, maybe some more anger and going on the attack in a public way.

That may not be Schumer. He is not the angry display type.

I’m hardly a great political strategist, or I might be a senator (or at least a village board member).

All I can do is look at what’s being tried, and attempt to second-guess it.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:16:26pm

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

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take a seat, mitch

Awww, look at poor Mitch getting all upset because the Democrats are using tough tactics.

Go fuck yourself McConnell. You are as big an ass and as much a problem in all this as anyone.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:17:41pm

re: #234 Hecuba’s daughter

Too far away: 1.5 billion light years from here. Not even in our galaxy or any neighboring ones. The signal was sent before there was any life on Earth.

[pedant]
The evolutionary history of life on Earth traces the processes by which both living organisms and fossil organisms evolved since life emerged on the planet, until the present. Earth formed about 4.5 billion years (Ga) ago and evidence suggests life emerged prior to 3.7 Ga.
[/pedant]
en.wikipedia.org

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:17:43pm

The whole Manafort thing was almost completely absent from Twitter today. I saw nothing from news orgs.

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:18:35pm

re: #265 Anymouse ??

If you call that living.

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:21:07pm

re: #262 freetoken

Note that many more people are blaming the Democrats than blaming the Republicans in Congress:

polling.reuters.com

What? Did I read this wrong?

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Weaselone  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:22:17pm

re: #262 freetoken

Note that many more people are blaming the Democrats than blaming the Republicans in Congress:

polling.reuters.com

Is it multiple choice? I suspect you might see a similar breakdown for Democrats if Nancy Pelosi was put down as an option.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:22:20pm

re: #262 freetoken

Note that many more people are blaming the Democrats than blaming the Republicans in Congress:

polling.reuters.com

Nearly half are blaming Donald Trump in that poll tracker though. And the number is trending higher. The trend line for Democrats is going down. Republicans in Congress only get a small fraction of the blame and it’s constant.

I want to know who the 12% are who think “other reasons.” (That’s been pretty steady as well.)

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:22:45pm

re: #268 MsJ

What? Did I read this wrong?

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Oh nevermind. I did.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:23:02pm

re: #237 sagehen

It’s not the Dems that walked out of the room.

It appears to me all of the Republicans are resorting to Trump-like actions. They are all in and ready to go down with Trump.

McCarthy acting all pissed-off and tough. Lindsey is more entertaining.

Unbe…no, believable. I hope this costs all of them. And it sure does make you wonder how many really are bought and paid for by Vlad.

Joe Bacon, there must be a lot of Kompromat!

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Mike Lamb  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:24:08pm

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

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take a seat, mitch

Mitch, please have this salty bag of dicks and this rusty spoon. Enjoy!

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:24:09pm

re: #267 jaunte

If you call that living.

LOL.

According to the timeline, God had not yet created sexual reproduction. Pretty boring if you ask me.

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Weaselone  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:24:30pm

re: #270 Anymouse ??

Other could be : both sides! Or even Trump and Republicans.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:26:09pm

re: #244 jaunte

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Ha. Way to go Senator Murphy.

I always say healthcare can be tied to strong defense.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:27:24pm

re: #276 ObserverArt

Ha. Way to go Senator Murphy.

I always say healthcare can be tied to strong defense.

REPUBLICAN President Theodore Roosevelt thought so.

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MsJ  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:28:30pm
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MsJ  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:31:17pm

re: #278 MsJ

OMG. The responses. ????????????

I’m literally dripping tears of laughter.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:32:04pm

re: #260 jaunte

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Always the TV President.

Cheap reality TV stunts that have nothing to do with his job.

And the rest of them are going right along with the theatrics.

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fern01  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:32:13pm

re: #119 lawhawk

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Why am I not surprised that the misogynist Trump spoke over Pelosi repeatedly?

He is threatened by women who are strong and stand up to his baffling BS.

He did it at the meeting that was televised - let Chuck speak but tried to stop Ms Pelosi. Calls her Nancy - time she started calling him little Donny.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:32:33pm

re: #261 teleskiguy

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Yeah you’re sane ladies.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:32:51pm

re: #281 fern01

He did it at the meeting that was televised - let Chuck speak but tried to stop Ms Pelosi. Calls her Nancy - time she started calling him little Donny.

Baby Donny.

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fern01  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:34:39pm

re: #120 MsJ

As soon as trump is gone - they will all crawl back and support the GOP - they will attack the democrats as they did for 8 years of the Obama Presidency and 8 years of the Clinton Presidency. Their reward - a place on pundit TV.

I agree with your sentiments.

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wrenchwench  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:35:57pm

re: #251 jaunte

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Accordion hands is one of his lying tells.

Especially when his mouth is open.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:35:59pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:36:00pm

One of the great crashes of ski racing, right up there with Hermann Maier in the Olympics.

Chad Fleischer Recounts His 1995 Crash At Kitzbuhel | ISOS013

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Skip Intro  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:38:12pm

re: #245 MsJ

It never seems to go as planned these days.

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We do have fucking borders. Lou Dobbs has no shame at all.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:38:16pm

re: #286 Charles Johnson

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Trump trolls them into thinking he’s what a great American is. Nuff said. They’re idiots and should be derided as such.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:38:26pm

re: #268 MsJ

What? Did I read this wrong?

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No. It has been reported elsewhere Trump is being blamed by 51%

37% Dems and other at 12%

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lawhawk  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:38:34pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:38:58pm

re: #288 Skip Intro

We do have fucking borders. Lou Dobbs has no shame at all.

Yeah but because we’re not 1960’s East Berlin. Lou isn’t happy.

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wrenchwench  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:39:49pm

re: #286 Charles Johnson

[Right wingers like to pose as the greatest trolls and masters of the internets, but in truth they’re the ones who are comically easy to troll, and so gullible they’ll believe anything]

Projection, of the negative. Conjection?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:39:51pm

re: #291 lawhawk

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Hell second hand stories about her “raging” at staff get treated as gospel.

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lawhawk  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:40:02pm

re: #288 Skip Intro

No one is asking for a wall with Canada, despite actual terrorists crossing that border.

The difference? Canada has a lot of white people living there, but our Southern border has lots of nonwhites who want to come North.

There’s no interest in a wall with Canada, despite the same kind of threat.

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fern01  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:40:32pm

re: #145 KGxvi

Wait, isn’t that the plot to A Few Good Men?

The one comment on your link picked up on that as well.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:41:28pm

re: #287 teleskiguy

I vividly remember watching Hermann Maier crash in the Olympics on live TV in 1998. I thought I was watching a man die on live TV. He ended up winning gold in the Super G and Giant Slalom a few days later.

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Skip Intro  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:41:37pm

re: #295 lawhawk

Did I misread something? Dobbs says borders, not walls.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:43:50pm
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wrenchwench  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:44:20pm

re: #297 teleskiguy

I vividly remember watching Hermann Maier crash in the Olympics on live TV in 1998. I thought I was watching a man die on live TV. He ended up winning gold in the Super G and Giant Slalom a few days later.

Updinging but not watching, thank you.

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lawhawk  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:44:42pm

re: #298 Skip Intro

No. You’re right. Dobbs said borders. His poll is about borders.

But the argument Trump’s making is that without the wall we don’t have borders. And specifically that without the wall on the border with Mexico that we’re dealing with a national security risk.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:44:55pm

re: #293 wrenchwench

Projection, of the negative. Conjection?

Rejection?

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:46:13pm

re: #298 Skip Intro

Did I misread something? Dobbs says borders, not walls.

This is a standard RW argument about a nation needing strong borders; that if non-citizens can somehow get through a border and enter the country without approval, that a nation has no effective borders and isn’t really a nation. Therefore we need a wall. (Mere increased border security isn’t sufficient).

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:46:32pm

re: #298 Skip Intro

Did I misread something? Dobbs says borders, not walls.

Borders, walls, moats, landmines, spring machine guns like East Germany, barbed wire, sharks with lasers on their heads, it’s all the same to them.

As a matter of fact, except for the sharks, I’ve seen conservative arguments for all those.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:46:39pm

re: #300 wrenchwench

Updinging but not watching, thank you.

I bet you’ll watch this!

Right Here, Right Now // Kirt Voreis

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Skip Intro  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:47:38pm

re: #301 lawhawk

No. You’re right. Dobbs said borders. His poll is about borders.

But the argument Trump’s making is that without the wall we don’t have borders. And specifically that without the wall on the border with Mexico that we’re dealing with a national security risk.

Well, that’s a pretty stupid argument, isn’t it?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:52:15pm

re: #297 teleskiguy

I vividly remember watching Hermann Maier crash in the Olympics on live TV in 1998. I thought I was watching a man die on live TV. He ended up winning gold in the Super G and Giant Slalom a few days later.

Who was the ski jumper in the titles of The Wide World of Sports for like 40 years? Czech, wasn’t he?

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:57:30pm

re: #307 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Who was the ski jumper in the titles of The Wide World of Sports for like 40 years? Czech, wasn’t he?

Vinko Bogataj. He’s Slovenian.

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fern01  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:58:26pm

re: #199 Anymouse ??

Collins can’t be counted. She’ll swap back as soon as it is explained to her that she must support the president*.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:59:13pm

‘wrench…did you catch this video at the beginning of the previous thread?

re: #2 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 9, 2019 • 4:59:36pm

Good news! Letters & Liquor is back after a year-long hiatus. I’m probably not the only one here who would find this history interesting:

Letters and Liquor illustrates the history of lettering associated with cocktails. From the 1690s to the 1990s, I’ve selected 52 of the most important drinks in the cocktail canon and rendered their names in period-inspired design. Each post features a detailed history plus photos and recipes.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:00:02pm

re: #308 teleskiguy

Vinlo Bogataj. He’s Slovenian.

Thanks. Made me cringe every time.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:01:06pm

So glad you can edit typos at LGF. Wish you could do that on Twitter.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:01:47pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:06:54pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:07:59pm

Stepping away slowly from this one, no sudden moves…

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:08:27pm

re: #308 teleskiguy

Vinlo Bogataj. He’s Slovenian.

Was coming back from the Canadian Grand Prix in Montreal in ‘89. We were tired and planning on spending that Sunday night after the race, but decided to drive out of Canada first. So we came down through the tip of New York right down the side of Lake Champlain.

We saw a sign pointing to Lake Placid and decided why not stay in Lake Placid. It was June. So, off season…not many people.

We went to the top of the mountain that had the ski jumps on it. Took the elevator up to the top and looked out of the building the skiers gather prior to their jumps.

Pretty cool. Damn steep at first before curving out over the rest of the hill.

The US Team was there that day practicing jumps off a mini-ramp into a pool.

We also took a ride to the top of the bobsled run. That really gave you perspective of how nuts all that is. You see all the concrete runs, curves and shoots and how high up on the run they can get. All that gets’ covered in ice. And steep. It was a little hard to walk down the path next to the run even in summer.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:09:55pm
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TedStriker  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:12:23pm

re: #307 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Who was the ski jumper in the titles of The Wide World of Sports for like 40 years? Czech, wasn’t he?

re: #308 teleskiguy

Vinko Bogataj. He’s Slovenian.

VINKO BOGATAJ AGONY OF DEFEAT WIDE WORLD OF SPORTS

Bogataj competed as a Yugoslav entrant at the ski flying event in Oberstdorf, West Germany on 7 March 1970. A light snow had begun falling at the start of the competition, and by the time Bogataj was ready for his third jump on the Heini Klopfer hill, the snow had become quite heavy. Midway down the inrun for his jump, Bogataj realised that the conditions had made the ramp too fast. He attempted to lower his center of gravity and stop his jump, but instead lost his balance completely and rocketed out of control off the end of the inrun, tumbling and flipping wildly, and crashing through a light retaining fence near a crowd of spectators before coming to a halt. Bogataj suffered a mild concussion and a broken ankle.[2]

A film crew from Wide World of Sports was recording the event in which Bogataj crashed. The show featured an opening narration by host Jim McKay over a montage of sports clips, and co-ordinating producer Dennis Lewin inserted the footage of the crash to coincide with the words “…and the agony of defeat.” Throughout the show’s long history, various images were used for the other parts of the narration, including for “the thrill of victory…”, which directly preceded the above phrase and was often accompanied by images of the celebrating team at the most recent Super Bowl or World Cup, but after that point, the “agony of defeat” was always illustrated by Bogataj’s failed jump.[1] Later on, other clips were added to the “agony of defeat”, but Bogataj’s crash was always featured and always the first played.

I loved this part:

The melodrama of the narration—which became a catchphrase in the US—transformed the uncredited ski jumper into an American icon of bad luck and misfortune. Meanwhile, having retired to his quiet, private life in Slovenia, Bogataj was unaware of his celebrity, and so was surprised to be asked to attend the 20th anniversary celebration for Wide World of Sports in 1981.[2] He received the loudest ovation of any athlete introduced at the gala,[2] and attendees such as Muhammad Ali asked him for his autograph.[1]

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:12:40pm

They just can’t forget me.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:13:13pm

Barack Obama loves pie.

Obama: I Like Pie. You Like Pie Too?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:14:30pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:15:25pm

There is a Tweet (or in this case a video) for everything.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:15:47pm
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TedStriker  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:17:18pm

re: #320 Charles Johnson

They just can’t forget me.

Living rent-free in their heads for so long has to be pretty good for your budget, Charles.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:17:43pm

re: #319 TedStriker

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Cool story!

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:19:09pm

re: #320 Charles Johnson

They just can’t forget me.

Since when did you ban anyone with a slight disagreement with your opinions?

Granted I’m relatively new here, but those I’ve seen you ban are trolls, overt racists, &c. As far as I can tell, the majority of people now not here flounced, they weren’t banned.

I’m pretty sure there’s a lot about my political positions we don’t agree on. Shortly after I came here, I even asked you to ban me (you didn’t and I later apologised for being a jerk).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:19:19pm

re: #256 freetoken

Here’s a good summary of what is going on in Tarrant county GOP land:

Texas governor weighs in on push to remove Muslim from Tarrant GOP post

I’m sorry I really don’t understand how a Muslim could be a Republican in the first place.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:19:48pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:20:43pm
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MsJ  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:21:01pm

re: #316 Charles Johnson

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Stepping away slowly from this one, no sudden moves…

The dancing thing was a BFD to wing nuts. He helped lead the charge in making them look like the fools they are. Footloose, ancient, out of step and unable to enjoy anything.

They’re turning on him because of that.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:21:14pm

re: #328 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m sorry I really don’t understand how a Muslim could be a Republican in the first place.

Or someone LGBTQ, or Hispanic, or African-American, or female, ftm.

‘Tis a conundrum.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:21:14pm
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Sionainn, Fierce Mother  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:22:51pm

re: #287 teleskiguy

One of the great crashes of ski racing, right up there with Hermann Maier in the Olympics.

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Video

Reminds me of Wide World of Sports. I wish we still had that kind of programming because I was introduced to so many different sports and competitions world-wide. It was awesome. Can’t find anything like it now.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:22:53pm

re: #329 Backwoods_Sleuth

Seriously, Stormy could have a regular feature of her sitting on her bed in her undies folding clothes, and get at least 100K viewers every time.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:25:26pm

re: #334 Sionainn, Fierce Mother

Reminds me of Wide World of Sports. I wish we still had that kind of programming because I was introduced to so many different sports and competitions world-wide. It was awesome. Can’t find anything like it now.

As a kid, I was not a sports lover, exactly, but I watched WWoS every Saturday afternoon, and got a little taste of why people get so worked up about them. Plus, I discovered there were more sports than just baseball, football and basketball.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:25:41pm

re: #333 Backwoods_Sleuth

DT reminds me of a toddler going through the terrible twos.

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Unabogie  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:26:15pm
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jaunte  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:28:08pm

re: #338 Unabogie

A Bunkertod of Nazis.

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Sionainn, Fierce Mother  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:29:17pm

re: #318 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That’s just fucking nuts!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:29:54pm

re: #336 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

As a kid, I was not a sports lover, exactly, but I watched WWoS every Saturday afternoon, and got a little taste of why people get so worked up about them. Plus, I discovered there were more sports than just baseball, football and basketball.

I remember watching surfing on WWoS, and every time they’d show an old-fashioned pointed surfboard and laugh about what idiots people used to be. Now I notice all the surfboards are pointed again….

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:30:02pm

I looked at this tweet and thought “you know, The Hill does have a habit of ‘click-baiting’ their headlines…”
Well, not this time.

“… Republican Dorrie O’Brien is leading a group of colleagues in an attempt to unseat Shahid Shafi, a trauma surgeon in Forth Worth, the largest city in Tarrant County.

“We don’t think he’s suitable as a practicing Muslim to be vice chair because he’d be the representative for ALL Republicans in Tarrant County, and not ALL Republicans in Tarrant County think Islam is safe or acceptable in the U.S.,” O’Brien wrote in a Facebook post. …”

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:30:43pm

re: #338 Unabogie

Numbskulls.

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:32:30pm

re: #327 Anymouse ??

Since when did you ban anyone with a slight disagreement with your opinions?

Granted I’m relatively new here, but those I’ve seen you ban are trolls, overt racists, &c. As far as I can tell, the majority of people now not here flounced, they weren’t banned.

I’m pretty sure there’s a lot about my political positions we don’t agree on. Shortly after I came here, I even asked you to ban me (you didn’t and I later apologised for being a jerk).

Some got banned for being abusive assholes, but most of the old conservative guard left because they couldn’t deal with people bringing real arguments to them.

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Sionainn, Fierce Mother  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:33:24pm

re: #328 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m sorry I really don’t understand how a Muslim could be a Republican in the first place.

I wondered that myself when my sister converted to Islam and married a Muslim man. She is no longer a Republican because she sees just how horrible they are to everyone not male and white.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:34:17pm
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:34:45pm

Food for thought

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:36:16pm

re: #344 jaunte

Some got banned for being abusive assholes, but most of the old conservative guard left because they couldn’t deal with people bringing real arguments to them.

Yeah, but they WOULD have gotten banned if they had stayed, and they definitely felt unwelcome so it’s as good as getting banned, so there!

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Sionainn, Fierce Mother  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:36:50pm

re: #336 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

As a kid, I was not a sports lover, exactly, but I watched WWoS every Saturday afternoon, and got a little taste of why people get so worked up about them. Plus, I discovered there were more sports than just baseball, football and basketball.

Yes! I really loved the figure skating, gymnastics, skiiing, weight-lifting, and my mind is now going blank on all the others. It was fun and exciting. I’m more of an individual sports person instead of team sports, and they showed it all. Plus, it didn’t focus on just Americans. It’s why I can’t watch the Olympics anymore. If an American isn’t competing right then, they don’t show it. We miss so much!

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:37:07pm

re: #341 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I remember watching surfing on WWoS, and every time they’d show an old-fashioned pointed surfboard and laugh about what idiots people used to be. Now I notice all the surfboards are pointed again….

If you wait long enough, old styles just become new styles. I remember young women used to wear short skirts and thigh-high boots, back in the 1960s and early ’70s. Now I see the same fashion here in China in the 2010’s.

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plansbandc  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:37:08pm

re: #251 jaunte

His open mouth is a lying tell.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:37:47pm

re: #327 Anymouse ??

Since when did you ban anyone with a slight disagreement with your opinions?

Granted I’m relatively new here, but those I’ve seen you ban are trolls, overt racists, &c. As far as I can tell, the majority of people now not here flounced, they weren’t banned.

I’m pretty sure there’s a lot about my political positions we don’t agree on. Shortly after I came here, I even asked you to ban me (you didn’t and I later apologised for being a jerk).

TBH, I remember that and have to admit I did consider banning you. But I had a feeling you were OK and just testing the water, so to speak, and not malicious about it.

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:38:16pm

re: #348 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Yeah, but they WOULD have gotten banned if they had stayed, and they definitely felt unwelcome so it’s as good as getting banned, so there!

I’m certain they were all big proponents of private property rights except for when they were the ones getting thrown out of the bar.

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Sionainn, Fierce Mother  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:38:55pm

re: #342 FormerDirtDart ????

I looked at this tweet and thought “you know, The Hill does have a habit of ‘click-baiting’ their headlines…”
Well, not this time.

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Dorrie O’Brien is a nutcase. Seriously.

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:39:05pm

re: #351 plansbandc

Yes, I thought about that after I posted. He lies all the time, so everything he does has to be included.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:39:06pm

re: #344 jaunte

Some got banned for being abusive assholes, but most of the old conservative guard left because they couldn’t deal with people bringing real arguments to them.

The first big round of flounces came when I revealed myself as a godless Darwinist who believed in evolution.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:39:47pm

re: #356 Charles Johnson

The first big round of flounces came when I revealed myself as a godless Darwinist who believed in evolution.

If a Christian doesn’t have some non-Christian friends to keep them honest and grounded, they turn into wingnuts. Exhibit A, speaking.

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TedStriker  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:40:15pm

re: #341 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I remember watching surfing on WWoS, and every time they’d show an old-fashioned pointed surfboard and laugh about what idiots people used to be. Now I notice all the surfboards are pointed again….

TIL that Howard Cosell, after serving in the Army during WWII, was a practicing lawyer for about 7-8 years before getting his first host gig on the radio:

After the war, Cosell began practicing law in Manhattan, primarily union law. Some of his clients were actors, and some were athletes, including Willie Mays. Cosell’s own hero in athletics was Jackie Robinson, who served as a personal and professional inspiration to him in his career.

It certainly explains a lot about his style…

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Sionainn, Fierce Mother  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:40:17pm

re: #347 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Food for thought

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Certainly explains why he was squinting to the entire time. If one’s pupils are dilated that much, those bright lights have got to hurt.

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Sionainn, Fierce Mother  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:42:52pm

re: #356 Charles Johnson

The first big round of flounces came when I revealed myself as a godless Darwinist who believed in evolution.

I came along after that, but I can just imagine their minds ‘asploding from that reveal. Makes me laugh every time.

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:43:33pm

re: #359 Sionainn, Fierce Mother

Certainly explains why he was squinting to the entire time. If one’s pupils are dilated that much, those bright lights have got to hurt.

Heh. I made that same comment earlier today in the other thread.

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fern01  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:43:38pm

re: #335 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Seriously, Stormy could have a regular feature of her sitting on her bed in her undies folding clothes, and get at least 100K viewers every time.

$1 entry fee - she would do well.

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Sionainn, Fierce Mother  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:43:55pm

re: #358 TedStriker

TIL that Howard Cosell, after serving in the Army during WWII, was a practicing lawyer for about 8-10 years before getting first host gig on the radio:

It certainly explains a lot about his style…

Howard Cosell drove me nuts. I really didn’t like him and I was just a kid.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:44:35pm

re: #359 Sionainn, Fierce Mother

Certainly explains why he was squinting to the entire time. If one’s pupils are dilated that much, those bright lights have got to hurt.

He refuses to wear glasses, and dilated pupils make it that much harder to focus, since if your pupils are contracted, your eyes work like a pinhole camera, not so dependent on lens and cornea.

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fern01  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:45:17pm

re: #342 FormerDirtDart ????

I looked at this tweet and thought “you know, The Hill does have a habit of ‘click-baiting’ their headlines…”
Well, not this time.

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That’s click bate for every republican in Texas

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Jay C  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:45:18pm

re: #359 Sionainn, Fierce Mother
Apologies: Minor fix:

Certainly explains why he was squinting to the entire time. If one’s pupils are dilated is hopped up on drugs that much, those bright lights have got to hurt.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:46:03pm

re: #358 TedStriker

TIL that Howard Cosell, after serving in the Army during WWII, was a practicing lawyer for about 7-8 years before getting first host gig on the radio:

It certainly explains a lot about his style…

No shit. I never knew Cosell was a lawyer. It does explain his interviewing technique and delivery, though.

IIRC Cosell was sympathetic to Muhammad Ali’s refusal to serve in the military on religious grounds, when Ali was getting a lot of shit for it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:46:28pm

obviously, Bear went to the Rango School of Sleeping

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Sionainn, Fierce Mother  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:46:34pm

re: #366 Jay C

Apologies: Minor fix:

LOL! Perfect.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:46:55pm

re: #328 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m sorry I really don’t understand how a Muslim could be a Republican in the first place.

Think of Log Cabin Republicans. Same reason.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:47:39pm

re: #362 fern01

$1 entry fee - she would do well.

Really. If I could make money that easy, I’d do it.

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fern01  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:48:17pm

re: #372 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Really. If I could make money that easy, I’d do it.

But do you have Stormy’s attributes and skills?

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Sionainn, Fierce Mother  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:48:20pm

re: #368 Backwoods_Sleuth

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obviously, Bear went to the Rango School of Sleeping

LOL! I’ve caught Oliver sleeping like that, too. We have only had him one week today. I will have to start taking more photos and posting them. He is way too stinkin’ cute!

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:49:34pm

re: #373 fern01

But do you have Stormy’s attributes and skills?

Lol. Nope.

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plansbandc  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:50:38pm

re: #319 TedStriker

Wide World of Sports was must see TV for me and my best friend. Demolition Derby, ski jumping, Sumo Wrestling, Winston Cup Racing, Bowling, Croquet, Volleyball, Oh the “constant variety”. But the one thing we loved above all else was the Harlem Globetrotters.

Sometimes it would be nice to be able to go back to that time, just for a little bit.

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wrenchwench  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:52:55pm

re: #310 ObserverArt

‘wrench…did you catch this video at the beginning of the previous thread?

Thanks! I missed it before! And I’m being called away again!

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:54:03pm

re: #328 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m sorry I really don’t understand how a Muslim could be a Republican in the first place.

“Tax cuts and limited government.” I imagine right up until they came after him, that’s pretty much all he cared about. See also Log Cabin Republicans. Hispanic Republicans. Female Republicans.

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TedStriker  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:55:00pm

re: #367 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

No shit. I never knew Cosell was a lawyer. It does explain his interviewing technique and delivery, though.

IIRC Cosell was sympathetic to Muhammad Ali’s refusal to serve in the military on religious grounds, when Ali was getting a lot of shit for it.

I’m 44 as of this past Sunday, so I don’t have a lot of memories of Cosell on-the-air, but those I do have (combined with clips I’ve seen on YT over the years) jibes with my newfound knowledge; Cosell didn’t interview as much as quiz subjects like they were on the witness stand.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:55:19pm

I make no secret of my Christian beliefs but I don’t feel as though I have ever been treated unfairly here because of them.

And that’s why I love this place. We got Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddists and Atheists and we all get along.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:55:34pm

A Republican is going to primary Rep. Steve King (Confederate District IA-4). That might be interesting to watch safely from my side of the river.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:56:50pm

re: #380 Eclectic Cyborg

I make no secret of my Christian beliefs but I don’t feel as though I have ever been treated unfairly here because of them.

And that’s why I love this place. We got Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddists and Atheists and we all get along.

No love for Wiccans or Jains? /s

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 9, 2019 • 5:59:48pm
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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 6:02:41pm

re: #342 FormerDirtDart ????

“We don’t think he’s suitable as a practicing Muslim to be vice chair because he’d be the representative for ALL Republicans in Tarrant County, and not ALL Republicans in Tarrant County think Islam is safe or acceptable in the U.S.,” O’Brien wrote in a Facebook post. …”

So much for freedom of religion in the Tarrant County Republican Party.

And ALL? If they’re looking for a unanimous vote on even what religious belief Texas Republicans think acceptable, they’ll be looking for a long time.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2019 • 6:04:05pm
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TedStriker  Jan 9, 2019 • 6:04:05pm

re: #383 goddamnedfrank

“The snozzberries taste like snozzberries!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 6:04:15pm
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plansbandc  Jan 9, 2019 • 6:04:31pm

Howard Cosell chose which game highlights he would show at halftime on Monday Night Football. This was at a time when there wasn’t any ESPN, so highlights were rare. (Sports Machine was the other place to see highlights once a week)

Bronco fans hated Howard for ignoring their games and hated ABC for never putting the Broncos on MNF. It was a huge deal when they finally started scheduling them, but Howard’s hate for the Broncos was always evident.

A bar in Denver started having a raffle on Monday Nights to throw a brick through a TV when Howard appeared on the screen. LOL Later, some enterprising company started making foam Bronco Bricks for fans to toss at their home TVs.

Ah, memories.

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Interesting Times  Jan 9, 2019 • 6:04:48pm

re: #385 Charles Johnson

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TedStriker  Jan 9, 2019 • 6:05:13pm

re: #385 Charles Johnson

And, let us hope that they’re all third-rate, like his previous and current lawyers.

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plansbandc  Jan 9, 2019 • 6:05:51pm

re: #387 Backwoods_Sleuth

Excellent podcast. Some fascinating history.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2019 • 6:06:52pm

re: #385 Charles Johnson

I’m kind of surprised they could find that many lawyers who would work with them.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 6:08:09pm

re: #356 Charles Johnson

The first big round of flounces came when I revealed myself as a godless Darwinist who believed in evolution.

Oh my stars and garters.

I recall someone linking the creationist thread here (I didn’t save the link, alas) which seemed to be the longest thread on your Website. Reading through it was quite interesting. Is there someone around here who can give me that link again, so I can save and savour it?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2019 • 6:08:23pm
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Interesting Times  Jan 9, 2019 • 6:09:06pm

re: #392 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m kind of surprised they could find that many lawyers who would work with them.

Remember how the lawyers from his “successful businessman” days always wanted to have another lawyer in the room to provide cover from his lies?

So maybe it’s the same principle here - they hired one new lawyer who wanted another lawyer to cover for him, and then that lawyer wanted a backup, and the backup wanted a backup and…

turtles lawyers all the way down.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 6:09:59pm

re: #390 TedStriker

And, let us hope that they’re all third-rate, like his previous and current lawyers.

I imagine so. It would seem at this point, a lawyer signing up to defend Mr. Trump will kill his or her career.

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BlueGrl21  Jan 9, 2019 • 6:10:48pm

re: #384 Anymouse ??

So much for freedom of religion in the Tarrant County Republican Party.

And ALL? If they’re looking for a unanimous vote on even what religious belief Texas Republicans think acceptable, they’ll be looking for a long time.

Fort Worth. Ground Zero of Texas Wingnuttery.

They’re having some emotional problems right now. Tarrant County went blue in the last election and they now have a Democratic representative.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2019 • 6:13:35pm

re: #318 Backwoods_Sleuth

??

That’s so nutty.

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Interesting Times  Jan 9, 2019 • 6:13:42pm

I can’t remember if I saw the comment from someone here or someone on twitter, but it was to the effect of, not only does AOC rebut GOPer idiocy, but - in the very same breath - reinforce her own message. Case in point:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 9, 2019 • 6:13:44pm

re: #392 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m kind of surprised they could find that many lawyers who would work with them.

probably mostly shiny new Liberty U grads

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ObserverArt  Jan 9, 2019 • 6:13:44pm

re: #396 Anymouse ??

I imagine so. It would seem at this point, a lawyer signing up to defend Mr. Trump will kill his or her career.

There might be a lot of little Roy Cohn types running around.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 9, 2019 • 6:15:54pm

Don’t worry, we’re still inspecting 31% of our food.

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The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery  Jan 9, 2019 • 6:17:26pm

re: #383 goddamnedfrank

Look.

None of us can completely judge until we know how well that doorknob was seasoned.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 9, 2019 • 6:17:35pm

re: #359 Sionainn, Fierce Mother

re: #347 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

There was a discussion on the topic of dilated eyes regarding a Stormy Daniels interview: apparently there are other possible reasons:

businessinsider.com

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 6:20:06pm
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Belafon  Jan 9, 2019 • 6:20:18pm

William Morgan Sheppard died on Sunday. He’s the father of Mark Sheppard, and for you Doctor Who fans, played the older Canton Everett Delaware III. He was also in the Elvira movie, Max Headroom, and a billion other things according to his IMDB page.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 9, 2019 • 6:20:42pm

re: #403 The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery

Look.

None of us can completely judge until we know how well that doorknob was seasoned.

Liberal hypocrisy! Why are liberals bagging on the doorknob’s lifestyle choice?

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retired cynic  Jan 9, 2019 • 6:28:09pm

re: #337 PhillyPretzel

DT reminds me of a toddler going through the terrible twos.

There was an article in WaPo about just that thing, specifically.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 9, 2019 • 6:34:18pm

re: #406 Belafon

William Morgan Sheppard died on Sunday. He’s the father of Mark Sheppard, and for you Doctor Who fans, played the older Canton Everett Delaware III. He was also in the Elvira movie, Max Headroom, and a billion other things according to his IMDB page.

Never saw the “William” before, but I remember him from the “Soul Hunter” episode of Babylon 5.

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William Lewis  Jan 9, 2019 • 6:46:16pm

re: #357 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

If a Christian doesn’t have some non-Christian friends to keep them honest and grounded, they turn into wingnuts. Exhibit A, speaking.

Fuck yeah to this. And can I get an amen too?

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William Lewis  Jan 9, 2019 • 6:49:03pm

re: #382 Anymouse ??

No love for Wiccans or Jains? /s

Sure, not problems at all. Now, I have known a few white supremacist Norse Pagans who were asshats but that might have had more to do with the supremacist part than the Pagan part.

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2019 • 6:57:01pm

re: #356 Charles Johnson

The first big round of flounces came when I revealed myself as a godless Darwinist who believed in evolution.

I call it The Great LGF Creationst Purge, have for years. ??

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teleskiguy  Jan 9, 2019 • 7:00:00pm

re: #360 Sionainn, Fierce Mother

I came along after that, but I can just imagine their minds ‘asploding from that reveal. Makes me laugh every time.

This LGF article is the genesis. The comments section is insane.

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Sionainn, Fierce Mother  Jan 9, 2019 • 7:06:18pm

re: #404 Hecuba’s daughter

There was a discussion on the topic of dilated eyes regarding a Stormy Daniels interview: apparently there are other possible reasons:

businessinsider.com

Aha! So instead of drugs, it could have been because he was askeered!


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