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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:27:37am

And now Mitch has adjourned the Senate until Monday…

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:28:28am
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:29:19am
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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:29:48am

ok reposted from downstairs because……I’m doing great!

Report from the dopey 10k, corral F

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Don’t touch that dial

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:30:09am

Who wants to bet this guy is an incel who thought he had the absolute right to take her even if it meant killing her parents?

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Charles Johnson  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:32:53am
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Charles Johnson  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:33:19am
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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:33:51am

re: #5 MsJ

Who wants to bet this guy is an incel who thought he had the absolute right to take her even if it meant killing her parents?

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Is he one of them there Proud Boys?

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:34:56am
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William Lewis  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:36:39am

re: #5 MsJ

Who wants to bet this guy is an incel who thought he had the absolute right to take her even if it meant killing her parents?

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Oh, it’s possible. Other possibilities though as well. At this point, it’s essentially impossible to say for sure. There are certainly plenty of racist and patriarchal scumbags up here in NW Wisconsin.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:37:42am

re: #7 Charles Johnson

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I find people who post nothing but politics even those I agree with on FB a bit overbearing at times. I’m glad that the Lizards I’m friends with are like me, balanced.

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rhuarc  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:37:43am

re: #5 MsJ

Who wants to bet this guy is an incel who thought he had the absolute right to take her even if it meant killing her parents?

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He totally looks like an incel.

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jaunte  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:38:14am
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jaunte  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:39:57am

Lieberman, violating FARA:
“Hey, look over there at Ocasio-Cortez!”

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:41:16am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:41:34am

re: #13 jaunte

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Doucher.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:42:04am

re: #15 FormerDirtDart ????

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I still like how the Simpsons gave Walter Mondale a ship, a laundry ship that they fled from Australia on.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:42:10am
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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:43:54am
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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:44:40am

re: #10 William Lewis

Oh, it’s possible. Other possibilities though as well. At this point, it’s essentially impossible to say for sure. There are certainly plenty of racist and patriarchal scumbags up here in NW Wisconsin.

They were both white. Would someone patriarchal kill the father?

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KGxvi  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:44:54am

re: #3 Patricia Kayden

Worth reminding President “Great Job Numbers” that by failing to pay 800,000 federal workers, he just wiped out at least three months of job growth.

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:45:04am

re: #12 rhuarc

He totally looks like an incel.

He did to me, as well.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:45:39am

Somebody needs to borrow this loon’s pocket copy of the Constitution (they all have them as magical talismans) and show him the part that defines treason. Opposing the President’s policies ain’t in there.

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Kilroy was here  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:45:46am

re: #15 FormerDirtDart ????

USS Tricky Dick

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:46:04am

re: #13 jaunte

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:46:56am

re: #25 MsJ

Wow. He has really made a sharp right turn.

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Interesting Times  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:47:22am

Thread - it’s important to call and counter-act the crazies:

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The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:48:01am

Yeah.

So incels are awful, but they’re flavor of the month.

And not to stretch an ice cream metaphor too much…but there is definitely the “I get to own women and hurt people” cultural equivalent of vanilla, chocolate, and strawberry.

By which I mean, there are way way too many time-tested overlapping redundant mindsets and they’re all the same base matter.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:48:30am
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Interesting Times  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:48:34am

Ha!

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:49:22am

re: #21 KGxvi

Worth reminding President “Great Job Numbers” that by failing to pay 800,000 federal workers, he just wiped out at least three months of job growth.

It’s ok, he’ll just remove all public sector jobs from future reports. Same with public service sector employees on unemployment.

Statistics that they all pull out of their asses. Trump espouses them daily.

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wrenchwench  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:49:23am

re: #26 Patricia Kayden

Wow. He has really made a sharp right turn.

Turned on a dime. Or a couple $million. Everyone has a price. (Or not.)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:49:44am

re: #23 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Somebody needs to borrow this loon’s pocket copy of the Constitution (they all have them as magical talismans) and show him the part that defines treason. Opposing the President’s policies ain’t in there.

That’s not how it works, dumbass. Read a Constitution and then maybe you won’t say stupid shit like this.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:50:20am

re: #25 MsJ

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Oh yeah. It wasn’t DOD. It was FBI.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:51:47am
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ObserverArt  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:52:41am

Dang it…busy typing away in the last thread.

I want to post this thought again.

Steve King today said before the House: “I’m simply an American nationalist”.

Which I think means I am an American Nazi. And he knows it.

From wiktionay.org. The root of the name…

“since in German the nati- in national /?natsi?o?na?l/ is approximately pronounced Nazi”

Link: wiktionary.org - Nazi

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:53:21am

re: #35 Charles Johnson

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Except that wouldn’t happen, you idiot. But hey keep on freaking out about transgendered people, it looks so great on you.

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William Lewis  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:54:14am

re: #20 MsJ

They were both white. Would someone patriarchal kill the father?

Neonazi would if the parents weren’t.

I still wonder if meth isn’t involved.

We don’t know anything yet. We might be able to learn something in a year or so when the case finally comes to trial.

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:54:55am

Thread

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wrenchwench  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:55:20am

re: #37 HappyWarrior

Except that wouldn’t happen, you idiot. But hey keep on freaking out about transgendered people, it looks so great on you.

No crisis apparent on the border, let’s deal out the next one…

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:56:08am

re: #30 Interesting Times

Ha!

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It’s very frustrating to me to see anyone saying that she shouldn’t be a Twitter star. She’s countering president Twitter star. She gets her digs in and they’re week thought out and meaningful.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:56:15am
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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:57:09am

re: #34 HappyWarrior

Oh yeah. It wasn’t DOD. It was FBI.

I didn’t even know that. And I read alot.

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wrenchwench  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:57:36am

re: #42 Charles Johnson

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Rubio looks thirsty…

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lawhawk  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:58:31am

re: #37 HappyWarrior

Except that wouldn’t happen, you idiot. But hey keep on freaking out about transgendered people, it looks so great on you.

Know what you call a bathroom that anyone of any gender can use?

A bathroom.

These right wing lunatics… are lunatics.

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wrenchwench  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:00:28pm

re: #45 lawhawk

Know what you call a bathroom that anyone of any gender can use?

A bathroom.

These right wing lunatics… are lunatics.

In some languages, the nouns have gender.

In some cultures, the facilities have gender.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:01:09pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

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Marco Rubio really is a pathetic joke. You should have retired Marco. I still remember your fake tears for the LGBT community after Pulse and yet you’re still a homophobic do nothing fake.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:01:56pm

re: #45 lawhawk

Know what you call a bathroom that anyone of any gender can use?

A bathroom.

These right wing lunatics… are lunatics.

Yeah I remember unisex bathrooms from my childhood. This anti trans shit is simply a response to having lost the SSM battle so they need a new scapegoat.

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:02:38pm

No matter how damning any info that comes out is, his minions will shrug it off as fake news

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BlueGrl21  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:04:01pm

A couple of months ago my work Mac was stolen and I was given a loaner PC until a new one can be delivered. Hilarity has ensued, as I have been an exclusive Mac user for 6 years. All of the controls are different….most things are different. The overall mindset is different.

Yesterday I managed to click or type the wrong thing in a Skype window and called a senior VP. Crap, crap. He didn’t answer so i thought i was in the clear. Then I get an email. “Who is this and what do you need?”

Shit.

So, I figured if I have to deal with the guy I can at least entertain him. I tell him the saga of my laptop, how I have struggled to function, and that calling him was the equivalent of a butt dial. I apologized but told him I was glad we had met. Because why not? I work in tech. They’re used to weird people.

I got an email back. “That was the funniest thing I have seen all week. Thank you for making my day. BTW, are you the Jen that is teaching me agile next week?”

Damn it.

“Yep, that’s me. Hi.”

“Looking forward to it.”

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KGxvi  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:07:13pm

re: #47 HappyWarrior

Marco Rubio really is a pathetic joke. You should have retired Marco. I still remember your fake tears for the LGBT community after Pulse and yet you’re still a homophobic do nothing fake.

I’ll give him partial credit, which is hard for me because I really dislike him. But here’s the thing, he’s not talking to us. He knows that we know Trump declaring a national emergency is fucking nuts and in a sane world would be an impeachable offense (by the way, that’s also how you stop a future president from doing it, if Trump does this you impeach and remove him). He’s speaking to the 27-35% Trump/GOP base that want to watch the world burn from behind the greatest gated community wall ever built.

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carey94tt  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:11:30pm

re: #50 BlueGrl21

Great story. Would like to see the email.

So far I’ve avoided all Agile training even though I am a the Software Architect and even though our project is Agile (first for our company and group).

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:13:53pm

re: #51 KGxvi

I’ll give him partial credit, which is hard for me because I really dislike him. But here’s the thing, he’s not talking to us. He knows that we know Trump declaring a national emergency is fucking nuts and in a sane world would be an impeachable offense (by the way, that’s also how you stop a future president from doing it, if Trump does this you impeach and remove him). He’s speaking to the 27-35% Trump/GOP base that want to watch the world burn from behind the greatest gated community wall ever built.

True, I just find his concern trolling exhausting.

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BlueGrl21  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:17:12pm

re: #52 carey94tt

Great story. Would like to see the email.

So far I’ve avoided all Agile training even though I am a the Software Architect and even though our project is Agile (first for our company and group).

It’s not as bad as you think if your teams know what they’re doing. A stable architecture is core to being able to go fast. I worked with our Data Architecture team to move them to agile 4 years ago. They thought I was absolutely nuts. They’re now my strongest team. But I sit down and work with those teams and stay with them until everyone is kosher and if we need to adjust a process, we will.

I’m an enterprise agile coach. This year will be 20 years. I was doing agile before it was called agile. Therefore, I don’t take bullshitters well. There is still a lot of it in the agile consulting world.

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bd(it's all true)  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:18:52pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

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Marco looks like he just rolled out of bed in the suit he went to sleep in.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:23:38pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

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Dear Marco:

Yes. This has been today’s version of SATSQ.

With warmest middle fingers,

Me.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:24:36pm

I just checked WaPo and there was a breaking news message that says DT is not going to declare a national emergency right now but the Democrats should vote again on wall funding.
washingtonpost.com

Here is the article: washingtonpost.com

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:25:56pm

re: #49 FormerDirtDart ????

No matter how damning any info that comes out is, his minions will shrug it off as fake news

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I hope the Sandy Hook parents take that asshole for everything he’s worth!

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bd(it's all true)  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:29:32pm

re: #58 Joe Bacon ??

I hope the Sandy Hook parents take that asshole for everything he’s worth!

Down to his last MRE, vitamin and goldbug coin.

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:30:55pm

re: #57 PhillyPretzel

I just checked WaPo and there was a breaking news message that says DT is not going to declare a national emergency right now but the Democrats should vote again on wall funding.
washingtonpost.com

Here is the article: washingtonpost.com

Translation: His advisors have informed him that it would not only be slapped down in the courts, but it would be pretty much the beginning of the end of his presidency.

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wrenchwench  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:33:23pm
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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:33:54pm

re: #60 Targetpractice

Translation: His advisors have informed him that it would not only be slapped down in the courts, but it would be pretty much the beginning of the end of his presidency.

Sure, GOP, we can do that. Vote on a clean WALL bill which only addresses that issue and no other. It goes down in flaming defeat from the Democrats and several Republicans.

After you reopen the government, because we do not negotiate with terrorists.

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Belafon  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:34:09pm

re: #57 PhillyPretzel

I just checked WaPo and there was a breaking news message that says DT is not going to declare a national emergency right now but the Democrats should vote again on wall funding.
washingtonpost.com

Here is the article: washingtonpost.com

“Everything the Democrats are doing is constitutional, while everything Trump has proposed is unconstitutional, but Democrats should give in anyway for the good of the country.” F that.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:34:49pm

re: #58 Joe Bacon ??

I hope the Sandy Hook parents take that asshole for everything he’s worth!

Ditto.

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wrenchwench  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:35:14pm

re: #60 Targetpractice

Translation: His advisors have informed him that it would not only be slapped down in the courts, but it would be pretty much the beginning of the end of his presidency.

That’s how I think of his day of inauguration.

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:36:54pm

The “national emergency declaration” BS seems to have been yet another effort to pressure Dems into giving into his demands, saying that he could just bypass Congress altogether if he wanted to but he was giving them a “chance” to avoid that. Now that it’s become obvious that they’re not budging and the Senate GOP are actively asking him to look for alternatives, not to mention the list of experts in the press who are saying that such a move would not only be illegal but impeachment worthy, he’s trying to avoid stating the obvious: It’s not going to happen and he’s totally back into a corner.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:37:07pm

re: #49 FormerDirtDart ????

Families of Sandy Hook shooting victims win legal victory in lawsuit against InfoWars and Alex Jones, after judge grants families’ discovery requests, allowing access to InfoWars’ internal marketing and financial documents.
— ABC News (@ABC) January 11, 2019

Between this and his divorce, I hope Jones end up dead broke and homeless.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:40:00pm
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The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:42:18pm

re: #51 KGxvi

I don’t give him credit because he’s specifically using Trump’s crisis as a springboard to (once again) suggest that Democrats use power autocratically and their stances are fundamentally unreasonable.

It’s solving the short term issue of Trump by fanning the long term issues that created the ancestral line of dumbassery that leads through Trump and towards a future of Trump-like politicians dominating the rhetorical field.

Rubio, like Romney, is just a much a malicious liar as Trump.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:42:50pm

re: #5 MsJ

Not taking that bet. When I first saw his pick I thought, “Yeah, just the sort of pencil dick I was expecting.”

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KGxvi  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:43:10pm

re: #39 FormerDirtDart ????

There’s a constitutional question with that bill, namely Article I, Section 8, Clause 12:

o raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years

You could argue, I think, rather persuasively I think, that this would constitute an appropriation of money for more than two years.

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:43:44pm

The hilarity of the situation: 3 weeks ago when Trump had that meeting with Chuck and Nancy, and he broke their agreement in order to bring in the cameras, I saw “serious” pundits suggest he’d “won” the whole thing because he’d forced the discussions out into the open and so the public would see that there would be no backroom politics to avoid a shutdown.

3 weeks hence and it’s becoming obvious that, when the book is finally written on this whole fiasco of a presidency*, the authors are gonna have a hard time pinning the failure of Donny to avoid utter humiliation in this shutdown on anything but that video clip of his boldly saying he’d take the blame for a shutdown. A canny politician like Pence might have kept the whole thing behind closed doors so he could accuse the Dems of perfidy later, but Donny did it out in the open because he thought it would make him look “tough” and in so doing sealed his fate.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:44:05pm

re: #69 The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery

I don’t give him credit because he’s specifically using Trump’s crisis as a springboard to (once again) suggest that Democrats use power autocratically and their stances are fundamentally unreasonable.

It’s solving the short term issue of Trump by fanning the long term issues that created the ancestral line of dumbassery that leads through Trump and towards a future of Trump-like politicians dominating the rhetorically field.

Rubio, like Romney, is just a much a malicious liar as Trump.

Well said. It’s not leadership either. It’s excusing Trump by pointing to a hypothetical situation.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:46:53pm

Well, reading through the threads I see concern trolls are concerned about Rep. Ocasio-Cortez and her clapbacks on Twitter. Concerned about “civility” (the same claim made of Civil Rights protestors during Jim Crow, the claim always rolled out by the powerful when their power is challenged).

“Girl?” No, she’s a woman. “Polling negatively?” Citation needed. The only place her polling matters right now is her House district.

Having elected a Twitter troll President, spare me fake outrage.

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jimmyvluv4u  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:48:13pm

Administration is tone-deaf, exhibit 456242134:

WH Economist: Fed Workers Actually ‘Better Off’

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:49:11pm

re: #23 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Somebody needs to borrow this loon’s pocket copy of the Constitution (they all have them as magical talismans) and show him the part that defines treason. Opposing the President’s policies ain’t in there.

They don’t care. All they care about is getting power and removing all barriers to getting more.

By any means necessary.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:49:28pm

Conservaliar still lying, day ending in -day.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:49:41pm

re: #75 jimmyvluv4u

Administration is tone-deaf, exhibit 456242134:

WH Economist: Fed Workers Actually ‘Better Off’

Tone deaf motherfuckers.

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:50:36pm

re: #67 Dr. Matt

Between this and his divorce, I hope Jones end up dead broke and homeless.

Ditto!

I hope the same for all Trump’s.

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The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:50:48pm

re: #73 HappyWarrior

Well said. It’s not leadership either. It’s excusing Trump by pointing to a hypothetical situation.

I frequently talk about Trump in terms of abusive relationship dynamics, but it applies to Romney and Rubio as Trump critics: the latter just embody the “respectable” type of abuser who plays into social norms such that harm they inflict can be denied by others, right up until it can’t be denied…at which point it will be rationalized as some kind of justice.

They still gaslight, punish noncompliance, and ultimately view their targets as functional objects. They just don’t cop to doing it for whimsical reasons.

When they’re angry at Trump, what they’re pissed about is bruises visible above the collar line.

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:51:09pm

re: #75 jimmyvluv4u

Administration is tone-deaf, exhibit 456242134:

WH Economist: Fed Workers Actually ‘Better Off’

He told PBS’ “NewsHour” Thursday that a lot of federal employees were already planning to take time off between Christmas and the New Year — and so the government shutdown essentially gives them a vacation for free.

So instead of taking vacation days and getting a guaranteed paycheck today, they got an open-ended “vacation” that comes with no guarantee of ever getting paid.

“Let them eat brioche,” indeed.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:53:14pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:54:29pm

re: #81 Targetpractice

I was always told that a federal gov’t job was a good thing. Right now I am glad I work for the city.

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darthstar  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:56:32pm

Lindsey Graham - because Trump’s balls won’t lick themselves.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:57:44pm

re: #63 Belafon

“Everything the Democrats are doing is constitutional, while everything Trump has proposed is unconstitutional, but Democrats should give in anyway for the good of the country.” F that.

Lord Dampnut, and his minions, believe the Lord Dampnut’s concerns and those of the nation are the same thing.

It’s why they categorize any form of dissent as treason.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:58:15pm

re: #52 carey94tt

Great story. Would like to see the email.

So far I’ve avoided all Agile training even though I am a the Software Architect and even though our project is Agile (first for our company and group).

We have been using it for ~4 years now, heavily in the last 2. It has its place in things, especially for a large group of developers working on different parts of a connected system.

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 12:58:41pm

re: #83 PhillyPretzel

I was always told that a federal gov’t job was a good thing. Right now I am glad I work for the city.

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:00:00pm

re: #72 Targetpractice

There are no canny Republicans. See McConnell and Graham.

They know better. And yet, here we are.

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:00:18pm

re: #84 darthstar

Lindsey Graham - because Trump’s balls won’t lick themselves.

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Shitheads like Graham are why I’ve little doubt that the GOP at large secretly hope Donny will go ahead with the declaration and effectively declare himself a dictator in the name of “national security.”

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:00:27pm

re: #87 Targetpractice

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Decatur Deb  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:02:14pm

Has anyone posted the current update from the wall GFM grift? It has morphed into the most brazen of rips. Recognizing that they will never get close to the goal, they have decided they can build it better, faster, cheaper than the Fed Gov. To that end they have incorporated a guidance committee including the following stellar cast:

Brigadier General Dr. Robert S. Spalding III
Industrialist John Daniel Moran, Jr.
Ex-Navy SEAL and businessman Erik Prince,
Former Secretary of State of Kansas Kris Kobach,
Angel Mom Mary Ann Mendoza
Law enforcement and immigration expert Sheriff David Clarke
Fox news contributor and border security expert Sara A. Carter
Former Colorado Congressman and presidential candidate Tom Tancredo
Angel Dad Steve Ronnebeck
Media consultant and journalist Jennifer Lawrence

To follow GFM rules, donors (335k) have to opt-in to the changed plan.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:02:23pm

I applied for a lot of government jobs in the Obama years but I stopped once Trump was elected. Man what a mess.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:03:08pm

re: #91 Decatur Deb

Has anyone posted the current update from the wall GFM grift? It has morphed into the most brazen of rips. Recognizing that they will never get close to the goal, they have decided they can build it better, faster, cheaper than the Fed Gov. To that end they have incorporated a guidance committee including the following stellar cast:

Brigadier General Dr. Robert S. Spalding III
Industrialist John Daniel Moran, Jr.
Ex-Navy SEAL and businessman Erik Prince,
Former Secretary of State of Kansas Kris Kobach,
Angel Mom Mary Ann Mendoza
Law enforcement and immigration expert Sheriff David Clarke
Fox news contributor and border security expert Sara A. Carter
Former Colorado Congressman and presidential candidate Tom Tancredo
Angel Dad Steve Ronnebeck
Media consultant and journalist Jennifer Lawrence

To follow GFM rules, donors (335k) have to opt-in to the changed plan.

Jeezus a lot of that is a who’s who in terrible people: PRince, Kobach, Clarke, TAncredo.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:04:54pm

A school principal in Ohio was so mad when she received a $100 ticket for illegally parking in a handicapped spot that she asked officials to remove the officer who wrote the ticket from his post at Jefferson K-8 School. Warren City Police Officer Adam Chinchik said that he warned Carrie Boyer numerous times that she cannot park her car in the striped handicapped parking zone because it prevents people with disabilities from being able to get out of their vehicle.

After she repeatedly ignored his warnings, Chinchik had enough and wrote her a ticket. Boyer was not happy and called the district’s superintendent, Steve Chiaro, who sent officials to remove Chinchik from the school.

The decision, which left the school without a police officer, was blasted by city officials.

“What example is that for the children? Oh, you get a certain status in life you don’t have to follow the rules?” city law director Greg Hicks told Fox8.

Chinchik is not being punished by the police department and they are working with the school district to get him back on the job, though he said he does not want to return to Jefferson School.

“what example is that for the children” indeed

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Belafon  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:05:46pm

re: #91 Decatur Deb

I wonder what these people will do when property owners on the border practice their second amendment and property rights.

Edited: Border, not board

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Decatur Deb  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:06:20pm

re: #93 HappyWarrior

Jeezus a lot of that is a who’s who in terrible people: PRince, Kobach, Clarke, TAncredo.

Basically they are going to pay themselves a sweet chunk of the $20 Meg to consult it to death.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:08:20pm

re: #94 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pissed at $100 ticket. In Philly she would have gotten a $301 ticket. I can imagine how pissed she would be at that. And a school principal should know better.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:08:49pm

re: #95 Belafon

I wonder what these people will do when property owners on the board practice their second amendment and property rights.

What they won’t do is hold eminent domain power and environmental waivers. It’s a naked scam.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:08:57pm
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Decatur Deb  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:11:57pm

re: #99 Patricia Kayden

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Opting-in selects the Stupidest of the Stupid. Their personal identifying information on the “goose list” will be worth more than their donations.

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:13:08pm

re: #94 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“What example is that for the children? Oh, you get a certain status in life you don’t have to follow the rules?” city law director Greg Hicks told Fox8.

Basically, yeah. “When you’re rich and/or connected, you can do whatever you like because you’ve the power to push ‘lesser’ people around.”

Funny thing is, we see this shit all the time from people who aren’t rich or connected. They just think if they put their flashers on, then the cops will give them a pass because “They’re not parking, they’re just there for a sec.”

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:13:22pm

re: #99 Patricia Kayden

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How much of that was already spent?

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:13:23pm

re: #87 Targetpractice

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:14:44pm

re: #78 Dr. Matt

Tone deaf motherfuckers.

“I got mine, F them.”

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:15:47pm

re: #94 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“what example is that for the children” indeed

REPUBLICAN examples. Typically so.

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Belafon  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:16:22pm

re: #95 Belafon

I wonder what these people will do when property owners on the border practice their second amendment and property rights.

Edited: Border, not board

Gah, I can’t even use the right words.

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wrenchwench  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:16:25pm

Freedom’s just another word for
nothing left to pay the rent…

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:18:32pm

re: #99 Patricia Kayden

It came out this morning that the guy who started that GoFundMe had a previous fraudulent GoFundMe.

I tweeted it at them with a “congrats on completely de-ligitimizing your platform and screwing over people who actually need help”.

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darthstar  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:18:58pm

re: #89 Targetpractice

Shitheads like Graham are why I’ve little doubt that the GOP at large secretly hope Donny will go ahead with the declaration and effectively declare himself a dictator in the name of “national security.”

Lets them all off the hook…or so they think.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:22:10pm

re: #108 MsJ

I had heard that he was a grifter from the time he opened up the “give me your money for a wall that I know will never be built” GoFundMe acount. It’s amazing that over 300,000 people were gullible enough to still turn over their money to him under those circumstances but I guess deplorables just aren’t that bright. They are lucky that GoFundMe is giving them back their money.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:23:13pm

re: #102 Joe Bacon ??

I don’t know how GoFundMe works but I assume that you don’t get to spend the money until the campaign is over and you’ve reached your goal. But again, I’ve donated to some GoFundMe accounts but never paid any attention to its rules.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:23:39pm

re: #94 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hmm. Entitled? Check. Outraged called out for repeatedly warned as a lawbreaker? Check. Finally held to account for lawbreaking and demanding the officer be removed from his post? Check.

Where have I seen this conservative playbook before. (I have no doubt this principal is a conservative after reading the article; it is so cartoonishly on-point.)

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lawhawk  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:23:48pm

re: #110 Patricia Kayden

I had heard that he was a grifter from the time he opened up the “give me your money for a wall that I know will never be built” GoFundMe acount. It’s amazing that over 300,000 people were gullible enough to still turn over their money to him under those circumstances but I guess deplorables just aren’t that bright. They are lucky that GoFundMe is giving them back their money.

They shut’em down, but the grifter got himself yet another mailing list for which to target those foolish enough to buy into it.

I doubt SMOTI and others who were touting this nonsense will post about how they shut down the effort because it was… ahem… a scam (that anyone with a firing neuron would have smelled from a mile away).

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ObserverArt  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:24:23pm

re: #84 darthstar

Lindsey Graham - because Trump’s balls won’t lick themselves.

Lindsey Graham ?
@LindseyGrahamSC * 2h Replying to @LindseyGrahamSC @realDonaldTrump

Mr. President,

Declare a national emergency NOW.

Build a wall NOW.

I get a feeling Lindsey knows this is starting to hang around his neck too. Maybe Lindsey is goading him to do the emergency so others can kill the shutdown and then the emergency is killed because it just won’t fly.

And maybe Lindsey is also hoping Trump triggers something very illegal that causes his ouster or the start of it. Lindsey and other Republicans probably want to move on.

We know he sold his soul to Trump and maybe the Russians. But Lindsey does know the laws and he might use Trump’s lack of knowledge and eagerness against him.

Will no one rid me of this turbulent Trump?

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:24:24pm

re: #109 darthstar

Lets them all off the hook…or so they think.

It was pretty obvious from the moment that the WH started floating the idea that it was aimed at getting the Congressional GOP off the hook. But the longer he’s drug it out, the more obvious it’s become that nobody involved believes it’ll work and it will only deepen the hole they’re currently in. In the meantime, the Grahams of the party have only furthered their imminent humiliation by making it clear that a “loss” for Donny here will effectively be the final nail in his presidency’s coffin.

800,000 people have their paychecks held hostage by a party that couldn’t organize an orgy in a whorehouse.

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lawhawk  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:25:00pm

Counterpoint:

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:27:06pm

re: #101 Targetpractice

Basically, yeah. “When you’re rich and/or connected, you can do whatever you like because you’ve the power to push ‘lesser’ people around.”

Funny thing is, we see this shit all the time from people who aren’t rich or connected. They just think if they put their flashers on, then the cops will give them a pass because “They’re not parking, they’re just there for a sec.”

My wife has a handicap parking hanger due to her difficulty walking. We almost never park in handicap spaces, but on rare occasion she wants to because she is in pain.

Outside the local area where people don’t know us, I can’t remember how many times people bitched because a Smart car is parked in a handicap space. (There is more room in the passenger compartment than our last car, and the doors are bigger.) It gets especially bad if I walk out to the car alone to retrieve something.

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:27:47pm

re: #114 ObserverArt

I get a feeling Lindsey knows this is starting to hang around his neck too. Maybe Lindsey is goading him to do the emergency so others can kill the shutdown and then the emergency is killed because it just won’t fly.

And maybe Lindsey is also hoping Trump triggers something very illegal that causes his ouster or the start of it. Lindsey and other Republicans probably want to move on.

We know he sold his soul to Trump and maybe the Russians. But Lindsey does know the laws and he might use Trump’s lack of knowledge and eagerness against him.

Will no one rid me of this turbulent Trump?

I honestly believe that Graham is one of those who is high on his own supply, that he genuinely believes the GOP’s bullshit about how such a declaration would hold up in the courts and so Donny could effectively declare himself as Dictator-For-Life is he so chose.

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ObserverArt  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:28:15pm

re: #91 Decatur Deb

Has anyone posted the current update from the wall GFM grift? It has morphed into the most brazen of rips. Recognizing that they will never get close to the goal, they have decided they can build it better, faster, cheaper than the Fed Gov. To that end they have incorporated a guidance committee including the following stellar cast:

Brigadier General Dr. Robert S. Spalding III
Industrialist John Daniel Moran, Jr.
Ex-Navy SEAL and businessman Erik Prince,
Former Secretary of State of Kansas Kris Kobach,
Angel Mom Mary Ann Mendoza
Law enforcement and immigration expert Sheriff David Clarke
Fox news contributor and border security expert Sara A. Carter
Former Colorado Congressman and presidential candidate Tom Tancredo
Angel Dad Steve Ronnebeck
Media consultant and journalist Jennifer Lawrence

To follow GFM rules, donors (335k) have to opt-in to the changed plan.

Nice gang. Don’t let ‘em out of your sight.

(GOP Recycling at its best)

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Belafon  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:28:31pm

re: #110 Patricia Kayden

I had heard that he was a grifter from the time he opened up the “give me your money for a wall that I know will never be built” GoFundMe acount. It’s amazing that over 300,000 people were gullible enough to still turn over their money to him under those circumstances but I guess deplorables just aren’t that bright. They are lucky that GoFundMe is giving them back their money.

Some people get so wrapped up they don’t think straight. I dislike the wall people for thinking we need a wall, but think Jill Stein.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:29:11pm

re: #113 lawhawk

They shut’em down, but the grifter got himself yet another mailing list for which to target those foolish enough to buy into it.

I doubt SMOTI and others who were touting this nonsense will post about how they shut down the effort because it was… ahem… a scam (that anyone with a firing neuron would have smelled from a mile away).

Looking up the USAF Brigadier on their advisory team shows a real officer, with a decent CV. He had a bit of controversy over a memo he wrote while attached to the Trump Admin, so might be a nutball. He seems still to be on active duty, so will probably be getting some command attention.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:30:10pm

re: #114 ObserverArt

Graham is in a reliably red state so I’m not sure that Trump is hanging around his neck when it comes to his chances of being reelected. Quite frankly, I assume that Graham wants a position in the Trump administration and will angle for one if Trump is reelected in 2020. That explains his willingness to act the fool (like he did during the Kavanaugh hearings) to further Trump’s agenda.

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:32:28pm

I’m not sure that a federal judge is going to believe there’s such a “crisis” on the border that a national emergency declaration is warranted when the guy who says he has the authority to make such a declaration and have it stick…is tossing the issue back to Congress which just adjourned for the weekend. It’s not much of a “crisis” when you keep stalling for time.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:32:32pm

re: #54 BlueGrl21

It’s not as bad as you think if your teams know what they’re doing. A stable architecture is core to being able to go fast. I worked with our Data Architecture team to move them to agile 4 years ago. They thought I was absolutely nuts. They’re now my strongest team. But I sit down and work with those teams and stay with them until everyone is kosher and if we need to adjust a process, we will.

I’m an enterprise agile coach. This year will be 20 years. I was doing agile before it was called agile. Therefore, I don’t take bullshitters well. There is still a lot of it in the agile consulting world.

I’m kind of in the same boat, but never got my Scrum Master certification. Probably need to do that when I finally finish my classes for Oracle DBA. Unfortunately I’m having to foot the bill myself on those and will probably set me back a few thousand bucks so it might have to stay on the back burner for a bit longer.

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:33:25pm
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KGxvi  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:34:44pm

re: #91 Decatur Deb

Has anyone posted the current update from the wall GFM grift? It has morphed into the most brazen of rips. Recognizing that they will never get close to the goal, they have decided they can build it better, faster, cheaper than the Fed Gov. To that end they have incorporated a guidance committee including the following stellar cast:

Brigadier General Dr. Robert S. Spalding III
Industrialist John Daniel Moran, Jr.
Ex-Navy SEAL and businessman Erik Prince,
Former Secretary of State of Kansas Kris Kobach,
Angel Mom Mary Ann Mendoza
Law enforcement and immigration expert Sheriff David Clarke
Fox news contributor and border security expert Sara A. Carter
Former Colorado Congressman and presidential candidate Tom Tancredo
Angel Dad Steve Ronnebeck
Media consultant and journalist Jennifer Lawrence

To follow GFM rules, donors (335k) have to opt-in to the changed plan.

At least the federal government could use the court system for eminent domain, these idiots can’t force anyone to sell them their land. So a lot of that money is going to be spent on lawyers for several trespassing lawsuits if they ever even try to build the wall.

This is fucking magical.

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:34:48pm

re: #110 Patricia Kayden

I had heard that he was a grifter from the time he opened up the “give me your money for a wall that I know will never be built” GoFundMe acount. It’s amazing that over 300,000 people were gullible enough to still turn over their money to him under those circumstances but I guess deplorables just aren’t that bright. They are lucky that GoFundMe is giving them back their money.

Fuck em. Should have fucked then over.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:36:10pm

Donnie just clowned himself and proved there is no national emergency. Oooooops

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:36:23pm

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:36:49pm

re: #111 Patricia Kayden

I don’t know how GoFundMe works but I assume that you don’t get to spend the money until the campaign is over and you’ve reached your goal. But again, I’ve donated to some GoFundMe accounts but never paid any attention to its rules.

No not necessarily. You can authorize payments to go out as soon as they come in. That’s what I did for that gal with the really sick baby. They needed that money (and still do) like the second it came in.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:41:58pm

re: #116 lawhawk

Counterpoint:

It’s sad 330,000 people thought this was a good idea.

What needs to happen is this guy gets tried in a court for fraud (preferably one with flags with gold fringes).

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lawhawk  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:42:04pm

re: #124 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

I’m doing agile and scrum method work these days, and when certain folks throw around the term agile, and then don’t actually show that they know what it means or how it affects the day to day work we do, it rubs me the wrong way.

I think some folks throw the term around because they think it sounds good, rather than because it makes sense for the workflow or output.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:44:12pm

White supremacist group had 20 members ‘at most’ and faked rally for publicity
nj.com

The white supremacist group that created an uproar in Princeton after spreading flyers saying it was hosting a march, now says its rally was a hoax to gain attention and publicity.

The New Jersey European Heritage Association wrote on social media Friday that it never intended to march on Saturday.

“You’ve been punk’d,” said the post on gab, a social media platform know for allowing AltRight content. It was also posted on Twitter.

“There isn’t going to be a ‘march’ this Saturday, there never was,” it said.

The group wrote that because of the online attention the NJEHA has received over the past several days, its website has experienced an uptick in traffic.

(more)

Sure, Jan.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:45:10pm

re: #130 MsJ

No not necessarily. You can authorize payments to go out as soon as they come in. That’s what I did for that gal with the really sick baby. They needed that money (and still do) like the second it came in.

That’s also what happened with my sister’s GoFundMe when her wife was dying and they were overwhelmed with bills.

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:45:18pm

re: #117 Anymouse ??

My wife has a handicap parking hanger due to her difficulty walking. We almost never park in handicap spaces, but on rare occasion she wants to because she is in pain.

Outside the local area where people don’t know us, I can’t remember how many times people bitched because a Smart car is parked in a handicap space. (There is more room in the passenger compartment than our last car, and the doors are bigger.) It gets especially bad if I walk out to the car alone to retrieve something.

After I tore up my knee last year my doctor gave me one. While I can walk now (I did the electric carts around the grocery store for four months) I still can’t walk far. I walk around the store completely on my own now (yeah fucking me) but I’m wiped if I do that for too long. The longer I walk the more I limp. There have been times I worried about getting back to my car. But when I first get out of the car, I usually walk perfectly.

And if there is a close regular parking spot I always take that. Because there are likely people worse off than me.

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Belafon  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:45:26pm

re: #54 BlueGrl21

My company is in the process of learning the meaning of all those buzzwords.

I don’t mind heading that way, the process we use now is antiquated.

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garzooma  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:46:02pm

re: #129 Joe Bacon ??

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Speaking of plans:

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KGxvi  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:47:35pm

re: #122 Patricia Kayden

Graham is in a reliably red state so I’m not sure that Trump is hanging around his neck when it comes to his chances of being reelected. Quite frankly, I assume that Graham wants a position in the Trump administration and will angle for one if Trump is reelected in 2020. That explains his willingness to act the fool (like he did during the Kavanaugh hearings) to further Trump’s agenda.

The PVI has South Carolina as R+8, which makes it about as Republican as New Jersey is Democratic. And in most House districts, the GOP lost ground from 2016 to 2018, anywhere from 1% to 9%. If Trump continues to be Trump, we may well see South Carolina move closer to being in pay (Trump’s approval ratings in SC have gone from 56-31 in January ‘17 to 52-43 in December ‘18).

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lawhawk  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:53:25pm

re: #138 KGxvi

2020 doesn’t favor the GOP on any number of grounds.

The Senate class is predominantly GOP (22 GOP vs 12 Dems up for reelection - compared to nearly the reverse this year). A hugely unpopular president and the GOP obstructionism continues.

If Democrats remain as engaged and active as they were in 2018, we might see a huge flip in 2020. Big if.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:55:13pm

re: #139 lawhawk

2020 doesn’t favor the GOP on any number of grounds.

The Senate class is predominantly GOP (22 GOP vs 12 Dems up for reelection - compared to nearly the reverse this year). A hugely unpopular president and the GOP obstructionism continues.

If Democrats remain as engaged and active as they were in 2018, we might see a huge flip in 2020. Big if.

That’s why we need the right candidate and someone who will campaign along side other Dems.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:56:23pm

re: #54 BlueGrl21

I’m an enterprise agile coach. This year will be 20 years. I was doing agile before it was called agile. Therefore, I don’t take bullshitters well. There is still a lot of it in the agile consulting world.

I love it when I see emails that someone says is a “Certified Scrum Master”…pray tell, what entity determines who is a scrum master and who isn’t….

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:56:59pm

re: #128 Dr. Matt

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Donnie just clowned himself and proved there is no national emergency. Oooooops

He’s the sort of client that gives prosecutors huge grins and defense attorneys stomach-destroying ulcers.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:58:00pm

re: #114 ObserverArt

I get a feeling Lindsey knows this is starting to hang around his neck too. Maybe Lindsey is goading him to do the emergency so others can kill the shutdown and then the emergency is killed because it just won’t fly.

And maybe Lindsey is also hoping Trump triggers something very illegal that causes his ouster or the start of it. Lindsey and other Republicans probably want to move on.

We know he sold his soul to Trump and maybe the Russians. But Lindsey does know the laws and he might use Trump’s lack of knowledge and eagerness against him.

Will no one rid me of this turbulent Trump?

from electoral-vote.com

And Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) announced that he thinks the time has come for the President to roll the dice and declare a national emergency. This would be the same Lindsey Graham who denounced such a move last week, and who 24 hours before said that the Senate was working on a compromise to resolve the situation. So, it’s another illustration of why he’s really not worth listening to anymore.

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lawhawk  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:58:32pm

Trumpworld now has to engage in pretzel logic to defend itself on all legal fronts.

You need to understand that the legal theory in one case can contradict your legal theory in another case (or even in the same case, as in alternative claims/defenses that contradict each other). It’s possible, so I’m not holding that against him.

I just find it funny that Trump’s trying to defend against this particular suit by claiming that the requested discovery would interfere with the ongoing investigation by Mueller.

It’s quite possible that the judge might delay ruling until such time that the Mueller Report is issued to avoid the problem, or they may say that the information can be vetted without difficulty (as is often done in cases where there’s classified/privileged info - IIRC you could have a special master review the info to make sure that it can be released without interfering in the investigation or other case).

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EPR-radar  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:59:14pm

re: #141 Eric The Fruit Bat

I love it when I see emails that someone says is a “Certified Scrum Master”…pray tell, what entity determines who is a scrum master and who isn’t….

Is ‘scrum’ in this context some kind of fusion of rugby and software engineering?

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KGxvi  Jan 11, 2019 • 1:59:56pm

re: #139 lawhawk

2020 doesn’t favor the GOP on any number of grounds.

The Senate class is predominantly GOP (22 GOP vs 12 Dems up for reelection - compared to nearly the reverse this year). A hugely unpopular president and the GOP obstructionism continues.

If Democrats remain as engaged and active as they were in 2018, we might see a huge flip in 2020. Big if.

I’m mildly optimistic about 2020, mostly because I think Trump is not even going to get close to what he got last time. Twelve of those GOP states in the Senate are >R+10, plus Dems have to defend Alabama which is also R+14. But hopefully the Dems are working to get more people registered and engaged in every state, and can expand the electorate enough to put more states in play.

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lawhawk  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:00:10pm

The sheriff didn’t and couldn’t stop the massacre. More guns isn’t going to stop the next one either.

This is the real national crisis, not this bulkshit from Trump about foreigners coming in and raping your women and stealing your shit and murdering your kids.

The real threat is angry white guys blowing away dozens of people with guns that are all too easily available.

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:00:58pm

re: #143 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

from electoral-vote.com

The compromise went up in flames yesterday, effectively because the GOP realized that it was a wasted effort because even if Donny might be willing to sign it under different circumstances, Faux was already preparing to roast them (and him) alive if such a bill went further than a trial balloon.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:01:32pm

re: #147 lawhawk

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The sheriff didn’t and couldn’t stop the massacre. More guns isn’t going to stop the next one either.

This is the real national crisis, not this bulkshit from Trump about foreigners coming in and raping your women and stealing your shit and murdering your kids.

The real threat is angry white guys blowing away dozens of people with guns that are all too easily available.

If he hadn’t sided with the kids over the NRA, this wouldn’t be happening.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:02:34pm

re: #138 KGxvi

The PVI has South Carolina as R+8, which makes it about as Republican as New Jersey is Democratic. And in most House districts, the GOP lost ground from 2016 to 2018, anywhere from 1% to 9%. If Trump continues to be Trump, we may well see South Carolina move closer to being in pay (Trump’s approval ratings in SC have gone from 56-31 in January ‘17 to 52-43 in December ‘18).

Alabama flipped a seat, why not South Carolina? Lindsey Graham can then go on Wingnut Welfare.

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:02:54pm

re: #149 HappyWarrior

If he hadn’t sided with the kids over the NRA, this wouldn’t be happening.

Pretty much. He tried to save his own ass by pinning all the blame for the “good guy with a gun” talking point be eviscerated by his own deputy refusing to play Rambo, but that sacrifice was deemed insufficient by the blood cult.

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KGxvi  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:04:45pm

re: #150 Anymouse ??

Alabama flipped a seat, why not South Carolina? Lindsey Graham can then go on Wingnut Welfare.

South Carolina is more likely to flip than Alabama was. But then again, Doug Jones winning was something of a perfect storm. Short of Graham being found in bed with a dead boy, I’m not sure he’s going to get to Roy Moore’s level of disgust/embarrassment.

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ObserverArt  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:04:57pm

re: #123 Targetpractice

I’m not sure that a federal judge is going to believe there’s such a “crisis” on the border that a national emergency declaration is warranted when the guy who says he has the authority to make such a declaration and have it stick…is tossing the issue back to Congress which just adjourned for the weekend. It’s not much of a “crisis” when you keep stalling for time.

Trump stepped on all that yesterday when with Hannity he said “he will call the emergency if he doesn’t get his legislation and funding for the wall.”

He made it clear it has never been about a crisis at the border.

The crisis is he can’t get his way.

Can’t call an emergency on that. If he does, he might get impeached. That is why people are saying Mitch is standing back. Mitch knows the laws and he knows what can break them. And he isn’t going to be a party to it.

He also know if he stops Trump the Trump base will kill him. And Mitch likes his power.

I’ll keep saying it…Trump has been bluffing the whole time. It’s all show because that is what he knows how to do.

I just heard it reported in a bit of a different way. Trump was said to say to the news folks that he had at a luncheon the other day: I know this isn’t going to work, but I have to try it because I have to look strong (to his base).

He is harming people, he is harming his party…but damn, he is not going to harm himself. He knows his base loves this shit…and he is going to ride that until the ride stops. Or, crashes.

Look at his past. It is businesses in rubble. Lost confidence by any banks and city governments in America that would work with him.

So what did he do? Put on a show that made him look all tough business man. It was called The Apprentice. And it made him feel like a success. It was all fake. It was all bullshit.

And he is on video right now from today saying “I’m not looking at it right now, I know if I if I call the emergency, it will go to the courts, and then ‘maybe’ the Supreme Court will allow it. But I know this should be done by congress, it is easy for them.”

Does that sound like someone that is going to go through with it?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:05:34pm

re: #145 EPR-radar

Is ‘scrum’ in this context some kind of fusion of rugby and software engineering?

When it comes to this, it goes back to some of the scrum training I’ve seen: picture a chicken and a pig and figuring out where they are in the software development life-cycle….

Q: What’s the difference between / are you a chicken or a pig?
A: The chicken is involved, the pig is “committed”….

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EPR-radar  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:06:15pm

re: #150 Anymouse ??

Alabama flipped a seat, why not South Carolina? Lindsey Graham can then go on Wingnut Welfare.

The Jones vs. Moore election in AL was a special case. The only possible threat to Graham’s job security is getting primaried by a better panderer to the swivel-eyed loons of the GOP base in South Carolina.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:07:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:08:23pm

re: #150 Anymouse ??

Alabama flipped a seat, why not South Carolina? Lindsey Graham can then go on Wingnut Welfare.

I agree but we got lucky with Roy Moore.

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:08:46pm

re: #153 ObserverArt

Trump stepped on all that yesterday when with Hannity he said “he will call the emergency if he doesn’t get his legislation and funding for the wall.”

He made it clear it has never been about a crisis at the border.

The crisis is he can’t get his way.

Can’t call an emergency on that. If he does, he might get impeached. That is why people are saying Mitch is standing back. Mitch knows the laws and he knows what can break them. And he isn’t going to be a party to it.

He also know if he stops Trump the Trump base will kill him. And Mitch likes his power.

I’ll keep saying it…Trump has been bluffing the whole time. It’s all show because that is what he knows how to do.

I just heard it reported in a bit of a different way. Trump was said to say to the news folks that he had at a luncheon the other day: I know this isn’t going to work, but I have to try it because I have to look strong (to his base).

He is harming people, he is harming his party…but damn, he is not going to harm himself. He knows his base loves this shit…and he is going to ride that until the ride stops. Or, crashes.

Look at his past. It is businesses in rubble. Lost confidence by any banks and city governments in America that would work with him.

So what did he do? Put in a show that made him look all tough business man. It was called The Apprentice. And it made him feel like a success. It was all fake. It was all bullshit.

And he is on video right now from today saying “I’m not looking at it right now, I know if I if I call the emergency, it will go to the courts, and then ‘maybe’ the Supreme Court will allow it. But I know this should be done by congress, it is easy for them.”

Does that sound like someone that is going to go through with it?

When he did his little temper tantrum stomping out of the WH meeting, there was an article about how this is his “negotiation style.” That he pulls this shit all the time, marching out of meetings where the other side won’t take the “deal” he offers, scaring the shit out of them because they fear that they’re not going to get a deal if they don’t get him back in there to take what he’s offering. Problem is that that shit only works because Donny generally deals with those who are weaker than he is, whether its contractors, suppliers, or his ex-wives. Now he’s finding out that shit doesn’t work when the other side has little to lose and a lot to gain by sitting back while he beclowns himself with such childish bullshit.

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:09:04pm

What’s the chance Vermont gets rid of this guy?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:09:21pm

re: #156 Charles Johnson

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Of course

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:09:53pm

re: #159 MsJ

What’s the chance Vermont gets rid of this guy?

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Unlikely unfortunately and he was just re-elected.

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:11:34pm

re: #153 ObserverArt

I’d love to agree with you but I just can’t.

Polling shows this is hammering Republicans. Yet Mitch does nothing.

This is way past smart, political chess. He’s killing Republicans. There’s nothing what about this.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:11:37pm

The excuses for how the Sanders campaign handled this are such bs. We have women supporters! Yeah that’s not valid.

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gocart mozart  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:12:52pm
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gwangung  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:13:22pm

re: #159 MsJ

What’s the chance Vermont gets rid of this guy?

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JFC.

When this first surfaced, I pointed out a way for Sanders to get out ahead of this and be a real leader. And I’d find a real leader to be admirable.

This sort of reaction pretty much gives the stink that harassment was real and was rampant.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:14:07pm

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This is the guy who conservatives think is the person to be the leader of the country.

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:14:34pm

re: #159 MsJ

What’s the chance Vermont gets rid of this guy?

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When you’re attacking the accusers, you’re pretty much admitting that there’s validity to the charges.

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:16:43pm

re: #166 Anymouse ??

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This is the guy who conservatives think is the person to be the leader of the country.

In other words, Donny’s pretty much admitting that he’s up to his usual shady shit, withholding payment until after the work is done so he can then try to stiff the contractors by offering them less for “shoddy work.”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:16:56pm

re: #167 Targetpractice

When you’re attacking the accusers, you’re pretty much admitting that there’s validity to the charges.

Yep crying that MeToo is being used on Bernie’s staff pretty much gets why MeToo exists. MeToo is about transcending ideology.

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Chrysicat  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:17:03pm
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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:17:45pm

re: #157 HappyWarrior

I agree but we got lucky with Roy Moore.

Ewww. Brain bleach.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:18:23pm

Evening Lizardim. Happy Weekend.

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ObserverArt  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:18:31pm

re: #162 MsJ

I’d love to agree with you but I just can’t.

Polling shows this is hammering Republicans. Yet Mitch does nothing.

This is way past smart, political chess. He’s killing Republicans. There’s nothing what about this.

Mitch is past caring for Republicans. Mitch is now worried about Mitch. He’s 76. If he runs in 2020 he will be around 78. One more term and he will be 84 or 85.

He just needs Kentucky now. Maybe one last term, maybe not…but he wants to go out loved in Kentucky. He has to return to his old Kentucky home again.

Got any polling on Kentucky for McConnell?

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:19:04pm

Bernie’s also keeping to (bad) habit, choosing to leave the heavy-lifting of saving his ass to his staff rather than stepping in to accept responsibility. Much like how he lets his nutty supporters run people off while throwing up his hands to say he has no control over them.

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KGxvi  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:20:40pm

re: #168 Targetpractice

because he doesn’t believe in paying contractors until the end of the project when you can see if they did a good job

THAT IS NOT HOW CONSTRUCTION WORKS

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Belafon  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:20:48pm

re: #168 Targetpractice

In other words, Donny’s pretty much admitting that he’s up to his usual shady shit, withholding payment until after the work is done so he can then try to stiff the contractors by offering them less for “shoddy work.”

Government contracts don’t work that way.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:21:33pm

re: #118 Targetpractice

I honestly believe that Graham is one of those who is high on his own supply, that he genuinely believes the GOP’s bullshit about how such a declaration would hold up in the courts and so Donny could effectively declare himself as Dictator-For-Life is he so chose.

Followed by Senator Graham stinking the knife into Donny and taking over.

Because that’s how barbarians and authoritarians think.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:21:44pm
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TedStriker  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:21:51pm

re: #165 gwangung

JFC.

When this first surfaced, I pointed out a way for Sanders to get out ahead of this and be a real leader. And I’d find a real leader to be admirable.

This sort of reaction pretty much gives the stink that harassment was real and was rampant.

Not only that, but that Sanders himself was either personally involved in it or, at the very least, turned a blind eye to his staff doing it.

Neither would surprise me.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:21:59pm

re: #166 Anymouse ??

It’s concrete! It’s steel! It’s a barrier! It’s a fence! It’s all of these rolled into one, ladies and gents! There’s something for everyone here!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:22:15pm

re: #174 Targetpractice

Bernie’s also keeping to (bad) habit, choosing to leave the heavy-lifting of saving his ass to his staff rather than stepping in to accept responsibility. Much like how he lets his nutty supporters run people off while throwing up his hands to say he has no control over them.

He really is a terrible leader. He totally is more like Trump than his supporters realize. They’re just so blinded by the promises Bernie makes that they can’t see that and you know what? It’s a shame because I feel Democratic Socialism shouldn’t be a bad phrase too but Bernie is a terrible leader.

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:22:34pm

re: #175 KGxvi

THAT IS NOT HOW CONSTRUCTION WORKS

It’s how it has worked for him, by promising more than he’s willing to pay, then weaseling out of paying by saying the work was not up to his standards and offering the contractors less with the threat that he’ll refuse payment if they don’t take what he’s offering and will actually lose money if they try to sue him.

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Chrysicat  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:22:35pm

re: #176 Belafon

Government contracts don’t work that way.

Didn’t work that way. They unfortunately do now and will until this grifting POS is out of office, because insufficient Senate Rs would be willing to string him up for it :-(

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:23:29pm

re: #180 Flying Squirrel Girl

It’s concrete! It’s steel! It’s a barrier! It’s a fence! It’s all of these rolled into one, ladies and gents! There’s something for everyone here!

It’s a floor wax and a dessert topping!

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:24:46pm

re: #132 lawhawk

I’m doing agile and scrum method work these days, and when certain folks throw around the term agile, and then don’t actually show that they know what it means or how it affects the day to day work we do, it rubs me the wrong way.

I think some folks throw the term around because they think it sounds good, rather than because it makes sense for the workflow or output.

I know what you mean - I’ve been working on software development/testing for the last 20 years or so and moved over to database work about 5 years ago because I got burned out on testing work, and there’s a lot more demand (and upward mobility) domestically for people who know their way around Oracle and SAP. Fortunately most of the people who I’ve worked with during the past decade or so have known their stuff and I haven’t had to deal as much with the buzzword-spouting marketing guys who couldn’t identify the differences between a dynamic versus structured framework are if their lives depended on it.

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KGxvi  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:24:50pm

re: #173 ObserverArt

Mitch is past caring for Republicans. Mitch is now worried about Mitch. He’s 76. If he runs in 2020 he will be around 78. One more term and he will be 84 or 85.

He just needs Kentucky now. Maybe one last term, maybe not…but he wants to go out loved in Kentucky. He has to return to his old Kentucky home again.

Got any polling on Kentucky for McConnell?

There’s this from Morning Consult:

The latest rankings - based on surveys of 416,853 registered voters across the country conducted Oct. 1 through Dec. 31, 2018 (see methodology here) - found McConnell’s net approval increased 10 percentage points since the third quarter of 2018, with 38 percent of Kentucky voters approving of his job performance and 47 percent disapproving. The fourth quarter marks McConnell’s best showing since the second quarter of 2017 as he prepares for an expected re-election campaign in 2020. (Net approval is the share of voters who approve of a senator minus the share of voters who disapprove. Approval and disapproval figures are rounded.)

38-47 approval was actually an improvement, apparently.

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:25:52pm

re: #179 TedStriker

Not only that, but that Sanders himself was either personally involved in it or, at the very least, turned a blind eye to his staff doing it.

I’m going to guess that he either knew about it and said nothing because he figured that his staff were keeping a strong enough lid on it, or he didn’t but is scared shitless if he takes any measure of responsibility for his staff’s actions that he’ll lose face.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:25:54pm

re: #186 KGxvi

There’s this from Morning Consult:

38-47 approval was actually an improvement, apparently.

The right candidate with the right campaign could beat him IMO. He needs to be taken out.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:27:32pm

re: #145 EPR-radar

Is ‘scrum’ in this context some kind of fusion of rugby and software engineering?

It’s the perfect mix of physical and mental pain.

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EPR-radar  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:27:47pm

re: #165 gwangung

JFC.

When this first surfaced, I pointed out a way for Sanders to get out ahead of this and be a real leader. And I’d find a real leader to be admirable.

This sort of reaction pretty much gives the stink that harassment was real and was rampant.

Sanders continues to be handicapped by his view that “straight white male” is the default version of human life.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:28:14pm

re: #187 Targetpractice

I’m going to guess that he either knew about it and said nothing because he figured that his staff were keeping a strong enough lid on it, or he didn’t but is scared shitless if he takes any measure of responsibility for his staff’s actions that he’ll lose face.

I don’t know what happened either but the way they’re responding to this shows me again why they shouldn’t be in charge. When Harris had to fire that staffer, her people didn’t cry that MeToo was being used against her. Sanders’ surrogates doing that and saying WE HAVE WOMEN SUPPORTERS SO DON’T ACCUSE US OF NOT RESPECTING WOMEN is quite frankly the kind of crap I’d expect from Republicans. Team Bernie may think they’re the purest of them all but they act like Republicans when they’re in a tough spot. Not the people I want running the Executive Branch.

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:28:52pm

re: #186 KGxvi

There’s this from Morning Consult:

38-47 approval was actually an improvement, apparently.

What’s saved his ass is he’s usually been up for reelection in years that favored GOP candidates. What may hurt him this go around is that Donny is a huge fucking albatross around the party’s neck whose stink is so rancid that it might dissuade all but the “BETTER DEAD THAN RED!!!” portion of the KY GOP to support him.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:29:01pm

re: #190 EPR-radar

Sanders continues to be handicapped by his view that “straight white male” is the default version of human life.

He really is and it’s a pity because he should be capable of learning. And frankly if he’s incapable, he shouldn’t be in office anymore.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:29:23pm

moron is so full of shit

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:29:55pm

I just feel I should remind everyone that one of the wealthiest and most powerful countries in the world is currently in the midst of the longest Federal government shutdown in its 243 year history because we’re being held hostage by a 72 year-old toddler who can’t get his way on a giant wall.

I thought this was the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave, how the fuck did we get here??

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:30:04pm

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is so full of shit

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Then drop the demand for the stupid wall, moron.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:30:38pm

re: #189 Romantic Heretic

It’s the perfect mix of physical and mental pain.

Yeah, and Agile has a manifesto too, just like those communists!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:30:57pm

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is so full of shit

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YOU CAN HANDLE PROBLEMS AT THE BORDER WITHOUT A FUCKING WALL.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:31:01pm

re: #195 Eclectic Cyborg

I just feel I should remind everyone that one of the wealthiest and most powerful countries in the world is currently in the midst of the longest government shutdown in its 243 year history because we’re being held hostage by a 72 year-old toddler who can’t get his way on a giant wall.

I thought this was the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave, how the fuck did we get here??

Because a bunch of white guys got their fee fees hurt by a woman being nominated and being more qualified than the two angry old white guys that she ran against.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:31:25pm

re: #195 Eclectic Cyborg

Voter apathy is part of it.

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Danack  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:31:39pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:31:40pm

Realizing I made a mistake. I bought my sister a Switch for Christmas, only to find that I’m getting jealous of her because I’d really like one of my own but can’t afford to buy it until at least after tax season.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:32:05pm

re: #200 PhillyPretzel

Voter apathy is part of it.

BOTH ARE THE SAME. Yeah I challenge any Bro who believes that to tell me that Hillary would have appointed Brett Kavanaugh or would have had shutdown over a wall.

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:32:40pm

re: #200 PhillyPretzel

Voter apathy is part of it.

Ayep. “It’s somebody else’s problem” combined with “He’s a bastard, but he’s our bastard.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:32:54pm

re: #202 Targetpractice

Realizing I made a mistake. I bought my sister a Switch for Christmas, only to find that I’m getting jealous of her because I’d really like one of my own but can’t afford to buy it until at least after tax season.

I have been absolutely enthralled by Breath of the Wild. Super Mario Odyssey and Smash Bros. are solid too.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:33:23pm

re: #202 Targetpractice

Realizing I made a mistake. I bought my sister a Switch for Christmas, only to find that I’m getting jealous of her because I’d really like one of my own but can’t afford to buy it until at least after tax season.

I got a watch for Christmas one year right before my brother climbed Kilimanjaro. He needed a nice watch for that climb so he asked me for it and offered to get me a new one when he got back which I thought was reasonable.

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EPR-radar  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:33:39pm

re: #199 HappyWarrior

Because a bunch of white guys got their fee fees hurt by a woman being nominated and being more qualified than the two angry old white guys that she ran against.

IMO it’s more that decades of Fox News and Hate Radio have turned the GOP base into deplorable pig-people that worship Trump as their God.

So even though it would obviously be good for business and normal GOP fuck-the-nation priorities, no Congressional Republicans dare to deal with their Trump problem.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:33:53pm

re: #205 Eclectic Cyborg

I have been absolutely enthralled by Breath of the Wild. Super Mario Odyssey and Smash Bros. are solid too.

i’ve been playing Red Dead 2. Holy shit, what a game that is. Chapter 2 btw.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:34:23pm

re: #207 EPR-radar

IMO it’s more that decades of Fox News and Hate Radio have turned the GOP base into deplorable pig-people that worship Trump as their God.

So even though it would obviously be good for business and normal GOP fuck-the-nation priorities, no Congressional Republicans dare to deal with their Trump problem.

True it’s that as well.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:35:33pm

businessinsider.com
Fuck me, I hate this crooked asshole and his family.

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:35:43pm

re: #205 Eclectic Cyborg

I have been absolutely enthralled by Breath of the Wild. Super Mario Odyssey and Smash Bros. are solid too.

Got her BotW along with the new Pokemon game, after joking that I’d get her a copy of Skyrim instead. Don’t think I’ve seen her play the former, but she’s been enthralled by the latter.

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KGxvi  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:35:56pm

re: #192 Targetpractice

What’s saved his ass is he’s usually been up for reelection in years that favored GOP candidates. What may hurt him this go around is that Donny is a huge fucking albatross around the party’s neck whose stink is so rancid that it might dissuade all but the “BETTER DEAD THAN RED!!!” portion of the KY GOP to support him.

He won by less than 1% in ‘84 when he first became a Senator. Then his closest elections were ‘90 and ‘08 when he won by about 5 points each time. ‘96, ‘02, and ‘14 were all blow outs.

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:36:18pm

re: #210 HappyWarrior

businessinsider.com
Fuck me, I hate this crooked asshole and his family.

Glad to see he got over his worries about being accused of nepotism.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:37:32pm

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is so full of shit

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My view settled on the ‘cowboy’.

Dude, do you know what a poser you look like? And take your hat off indoors.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:38:04pm

re: #212 KGxvi

He won by less than 1% in ‘84 when he first became a Senator. Then his closest elections were ‘90 and ‘08 when he won by about 5 points each time. ‘96, ‘02, and ‘14 were all blow outs.

As I said, the right candidate and campaign could knock him off.
02 and ‘14 were Republican years but ‘90 and ‘08 weren’t and 2020 isn’t looking like it will be. It’s tough though, They’re going to need someone good to run against the asshole tehy have as governor too. Poor BWS and our other Bluegrass lizards.

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:38:40pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:39:53pm

re: #216 MsJ

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He’ll win the primary and the GOP will use the same excuse Rauner did for not opposing that Nazi in Illinois, “At least he’s not a Democrat.” I think the National GOP may be tired of King but his own state and local GOP will keep him.

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:40:22pm

The only reason Donny avoided nominating Ivanka for UN Ambassador is that would require Senate approval. The World Bank presidency doesn’t require such, though he’d probably face flak on the world stage for nominating his daughter, as though he gives much of a shit by this point what the rest of the world thinks.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:40:54pm

re: #195 Eclectic Cyborg

Makes me think of a quote from Walt Kelly.

We amazed our friends abroad and astounded our enemies at home. They had no idea we were so soft in the head or so hard in the heart.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:41:48pm

re: #218 Targetpractice

The only reason Donny avoided nominating Ivanka for UN Ambassador is that would require Senate approval. The World Bank presidency doesn’t require such, though he’d probably face flak on the world stage for nominating his daughter, as though he gives much of a shit by this point what the rest of the world thinks.

i didn’t know that didn’t require confirmation. Hmmm explains why McNamara got it after DOD and Wolfowitz too. Man what an awful choice to even consider. Ivanka isn’t qualified to do anything with politics. God I loathe her and her father.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:42:32pm

re: #219 Romantic Heretic

Makes me think of a quote from Walt Kelly.

Good line, what was he referring to?

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:43:33pm

Everything he says is a lie

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:43:43pm

re: #215 HappyWarrior

As I said, the right candidate and campaign could knock him off.
02 and ‘14 were Republican years but ‘90 and ‘08 weren’t and 2020 isn’t looking like it will be. It’s tough though, They’re going to need someone good to run against the asshole tehy have as governor too. Poor BWS and our other Bluegrass lizards.

Bevin has a Republican primary challenger who has already filed.
Andy Beshear (currently our state AG and also son of our former Dem governor) has filed for the Dem nomination.
Bevin is looking at a different woman to run with him as lt gov. I guess his current lt gov (the black female libertarian tea party gal from Detroit) hasn’t been working out well for him.

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whitebeach  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:44:48pm

The lady who cleans for my mom once a week is the best kind of Christian, the kind who practice the Golden Rule, not just preach it. I can’t count the number of kind deeds she’s done for my mom and others.

But this is north Louisiana, so she’s also a Trumpista. While she was here today, CNN previewed an upcoming story by asking how effective walls actually were in immigration situations. Passing through the room, my lady saiid “Good enough for our homes.”

This might make a nice sound byte, but in fact her home has no wall, and it has never been invaded by criminals of any kind, much less by undocumented immigrants.

I didn’t say anything, though. She’s too good a human being for us to argue crappy politics, and she knows very well what I think of Trump already.

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:44:52pm

re: #222 FormerDirtDart ????

Everything he says is a lie

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Yeah, first he says “I don’t pay until the work is done,” then in the next minute says “The work’s done, I’m just withholding payment.” Any way you slice it, he’s an unethical piece of shit.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:45:03pm

re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bevin has a Republican primary challenger who has already filed.
Andy Beshear (currently our state AG and also son of our former Dem governor) has filed for the Dem nomination.
Bevin is looking at a different woman to run with him as lt gov. I guess his current lt gov (the black female libertarian tea party gal from Detroit) hasn’t been working out well for him.

Do you think the former gov would consider running against Mitch or is he content to enjoy his retirement? Interesting though. Didn’t know Bevin had an interparty challenger.

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KGxvi  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:45:10pm

re: #218 Targetpractice

The only reason Donny avoided nominating Ivanka for UN Ambassador is that would require Senate approval. The World Bank presidency doesn’t require such, though he’d probably face flak on the world stage for nominating his daughter, as though he gives much of a shit by this point what the rest of the world thinks.

Nominating/appointing his Jewish daughter to run the World Bank would send some of his supporters over the edge. The thing I always come back to with Trump and the alt-right is the scene from the Vice episode on Charlottesville when one of the white nationalists says something along the lines of “I don’t like that he gave his daughter to a Jew.”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:45:30pm

re: #225 Targetpractice

Yeah, first he says “I don’t pay until the work is done,” then in the next minute says “The work’s done, I’m just withholding payment.” Any way you slice it, he’s an unethical piece of shit.

He rips people off just like HRC said.

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Sea Mexican  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:45:47pm
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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:46:14pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:46:45pm

re: #230 Anymouse ??

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We used to be leaders on this. Props to PM Trudeau.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:47:14pm

re: #220 HappyWarrior

i didn’t know that didn’t require confirmation. Hmmm explains why McNamara got it after DOD and Wolfowitz too. Man what an awful choice to even consider. Ivanka isn’t qualified to do anything with politics. God I loathe her and her father.

Does the World Bank have to accept her if he actually did that? I would imagine they don’t want the Trumps to have the keys to their treasury, so to speak.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:48:05pm

re: #232 Anymouse ??

Does the World Bank have to accept her if he actually did that? I would imagine they don’t want the Trumps to have the keys to their treasury, so to speak.

I have no idea. I imagine the WB wasn’t too happy with Wolfowitz and McNamara taking the job after Iraq and Vietnam but they were at least qualified.

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:48:53pm

re: #225 Targetpractice

Yeah, first he says “I don’t pay until the work is done,” then in the next minute says “The work’s done, I’m just withholding payment.” Any way you slice it, he’s an unethical piece of shit.

re: #228 HappyWarrior

He rips people off just like HRC said.

He has absolutely no involvement in contracted DHS work. Or any other agency in the executive branch

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:49:08pm

re: #226 HappyWarrior

Do you think the former gov would consider running against Mitch or is he content to enjoy his retirement? Interesting though. Didn’t know Bevin had an interparty challenger.

no, I don’t think former gov is interested. At least not at the moment.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:49:32pm

re: #221 HappyWarrior

He was speaking of the McCarthy years.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:49:34pm

re: #217 HappyWarrior

He’ll win the primary and the GOP will use the same excuse Rauner did for not opposing that Nazi in Illinois, “At least he’s not a Democrat.” I think the National GOP may be tired of King but his own state and local GOP will keep him.

I’m wondering how this will shake out with the Iowa voters - between them getting hit hard by Trump’s trade war, and the mask covering King’s white nationalism being torn completely off now by his quoting Nazi talking points verbatim, does the Iowa GOP leadership think for a second that the seat will stay in the red column if he doesn’t get primaried?

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:50:39pm

re: #232 Anymouse ??

Does the World Bank have to accept her if he actually did that? I would imagine they don’t want the Trumps to have the keys to their treasury, so to speak.

No, there’s an election to the position so she could very well lose. And while such a loss would hurt the US in the world’s eyes, it would just motivate Donny to further attack the bank’s legitimacy and issue threats against it.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:52:01pm

re: #231 HappyWarrior

A couple of days ago I was arguing with a moonbat who claimed Trudeau was ‘the most violent man in Canada.’

Yeah, we got ‘em up here too.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:52:26pm

re: #238 Targetpractice

No, there’s an election to the position so she could very well lose. And while such a loss would hurt the US in the world’s eyes, it would just motivate Donny to further attack the bank’s legitimacy and issue threats against it.

Which is exactly what he’d do.

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gwangung  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:52:33pm

re: #234 FormerDirtDart ????

He has absolutely no involvement in contracted DHS work. Or any other agency in the executive branch

Pissing away, one by one, our political, our economic, our cultural and our technical leadership.

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:52:43pm

re: #190 EPR-radar

Sanders continues to be handicapped by his view that “straight white male” is the default version of human life.

I really REALLY fucking dislike him.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:53:23pm

re: #239 Romantic Heretic

A couple of days ago I was arguing with a moonbat who claimed Trudeau was ‘the most violent man in Canada.’

Yeah, we got ‘em up here too.

Yeah I know a Canadian moonbat who hates Trudeau and thinks he’s awful. I really like the guy. He’s a genuinely caring person.

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Interesting Times  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:54:12pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:54:22pm

re: #242 MsJ

I really REALLY fucking dislike him.

I dislike what he’s created too.

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EPR-radar  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:54:30pm

re: #238 Targetpractice

No, there’s an election to the position so she could very well lose. And while such a loss would hurt the US in the world’s eyes, it would just motivate Donny to further attack the bank’s legitimacy and issue threats against it.

More to the point, something like this would harm the interests of US oligarchs, many of which are in the GOP donor class. This inaction of the GOP donor class vs. Trump is the biggest mystery I see in the current mess of US politics.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:54:43pm

Today in open conservative graft:

washingtonpost.com

‘Could you make these guys essential?’: Mortgage industry gets shutdown relief after appeal to senior Treasury officials

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:54:49pm

re: #244 Interesting Times

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Atta boy Tim.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:55:53pm

re: #246 EPR-radar

More to the point, something like this would harm the interests of US oligarchs, many of which are in the GOP donor class. This inaction of the GOP donor class vs. Trump is the biggest mystery I see in the current mess of US politics.

Well Trump does like to blackmail to get his way. Maybe these guys have some dirt on them.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:56:39pm

re: #230 Anymouse ??

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I still worry that the Saudi government isn’t going to try to forcibly repatriate her (or worse) because they sure were on the side of the family members’ attempts to ship her back after her asylum requests.

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EPR-radar  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:57:01pm

re: #242 MsJ

I really REALLY fucking dislike him.

Not only is Sanders’ cluelessness on identity issues (which verges on bigotry IMO) odious, but his campaign fucked up the anti-plutocracy story badly in ways that will take years to recover from.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:57:05pm

re: #248 HappyWarrior

Atta boy Tim.

Yup. Also puts the GOP in the House on the spot.

Any Republican who votes against the measure signals they support Rep. Steve King’s comments.

Those are political adverts in the making for each of their districts.

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KGxvi  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:57:32pm

re: #239 Romantic Heretic

A couple of days ago I was arguing with a moonbat who claimed Trudeau was ‘the most violent man in Canada.’

Yeah, we got ‘em up here too.

You could argue that about any head of government that approves/directs the use of military force.

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sagehen  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:57:33pm

re: #206 HappyWarrior

I got a watch for Christmas one year right before my brother climbed Kilimanjaro. He needed a nice watch for that climb so he asked me for it and offered to get me a new one when he got back which I thought was reasonable.

And you were smart enough not to respond with “I dunno, how sure are you that you’re coming back? I’ve heard stories about what can happen to mountain-climbers…”

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:58:07pm

re: #218 Targetpractice

The only reason Donny avoided nominating Ivanka for UN Ambassador is that would require Senate approval. The World Bank presidency doesn’t require such, though he’d probably face flak on the world stage for nominating his daughter, as though he gives much of a shit by this point what the rest of the world thinks.

Don’t other countries have a say in it?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:58:13pm

re: #252 Anymouse ??

Yup. Also puts the GOP in the House on the spot.

Any Republican who votes against the measure signals they support Rep. Steve King’s comments.

Those are political adverts in the making for each of their districts.

Yep. Make King out what they want to make AOC into.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:58:18pm

re: #250 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

I still worry that the Saudi government isn’t going to try to forcibly repatriate her (or worse) because they sure were on the side of the family members’ attempts to ship her back after her asylum requests.

She is in the hands of UNHCR. With asylum granted in Canada, that makes it a bunch tougher for them.

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EPR-radar  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:59:05pm

re: #249 HappyWarrior

Well Trump does like to blackmail to get his way. Maybe these guys have some dirt on them.

The GOP donor class is much bigger and more powerful than Trump. Blackmail of these sharks by Trump is simply not possible, IMO.

Perhaps they really are just stupid, despite (or perhaps because of) their great wealth and power.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:59:06pm

re: #254 sagehen

And you were smart enough not to respond with “I dunno, how sure are you that you’re coming back? I’ve heard stories about what can happen to mountain-climbers…”

Heh true. And yeah I can’t believe he did it.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 2:59:55pm

re: #258 EPR-radar

The GOP donor class is much bigger and more powerful than Trump. Blackmail of these sharks by Trump is simply not possible, IMO.

Perhaps they really are just stupid, despite (or perhaps because of) their great wealth and power.

Could well be.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:00:56pm

I’d link every incumbent House Republican to King if I were the DCCC.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:01:01pm

re: #248 HappyWarrior

Atta boy Tim.

With Democrats in control of the House, even though they can’t count on direct expulsion (which is what he honestly deserves), they sure as hell can make sure that his tenure will be very unpleasant by keeping him off of committees so his influence is reduced to next to zero.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:02:13pm

Gaaa. The GOP’s major donors are going to pull the plug on the GOP soon enough. This guy is costing them real money now.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:02:26pm

re: #262 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

With Democrats in control of the house, even though they can’t count on direct expulsion (which is what he honestly deserves), they sure as hell can make sure that his tenure will be very unpleasant by keeping him off of committees so his influence is reduced to next to zero.

It at the very least might give his constituents a clue to chuck the bastard and give him a retirement way overdue.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:04:23pm

re: #264 HappyWarrior

It at the very least might give his constituents a clue to chuck the bastard and give him a retirement way overdue.

Censure also only requires a simple majority.

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:04:55pm

re: #263 Anymouse ??

Gaaa. The GOP’s major donors are going to pull the plug on the GOP soon enough. This guy is costing them real money now.

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The leader who has painted himself into a corner asks the party he drug into that corner with him to save his ass.

By this point, the janitors on Capital Hill must be taking empty liquor bottles out by the crate-load.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:05:54pm
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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:06:32pm

re: #266 Targetpractice

The leader who has painted himself into a corner asks the party he drug into that corner with him to save his ass.

By this point, the janitors on Capital Hill must be taking empty liquor bottles out by the crate-load.

Nope. They’re too busy cleaning out the bongs!

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:07:05pm

The Senate GOP should take him up on it, pass the House bill with the $1.6B for border security, then put it on his desk with the public statement that that funding will go to a “barrier.”

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:07:12pm

re: #247 Anymouse ??

Today in open conservative graft:

washingtonpost.com

‘Could you make these guys essential?’: Mortgage industry gets shutdown relief after appeal to senior Treasury officials

This picking and choosing which agencies should remain open is insanity.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:07:22pm

re: #265 Anymouse ??

Censure also only requires a simple majority.

Censuring isn’t removing though. I’m saying that if he were to lose his committee positions that his constituents might get the clue that the racist bastard is not only an asshole but useless too.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:07:55pm

re: #269 Targetpractice

The Senate GOP should take him up on it, pass the House bill with the $1.6B for border security, then put it on his desk with the public statement that that funding will go to a “barrier.”

1.6 billion for peach pies for the refugees and VB will bake them. //

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:10:25pm

re: #266 Targetpractice

The leader who has painted himself into a corner asks the party he drug into that corner with him to save his ass.

By this point, the janitors on Capital Hill must be taking empty liquor bottles out by the crate-load.

And Maalox.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:10:37pm

My wife will be seeing a different doctor at the hospital in Scottsbluff on Monday.

She notes he has the very unfortunate name of “Dr. Die.”

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EPR-radar  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:12:13pm

re: #267 Anymouse ??

Of course Meghan McCain approves of any ‘Democrat’ (like Lieberman) whose deepest political instinct is unconditional surrender to the Republican demands of the day.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:13:17pm

re: #267 Anymouse ??

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He hasn’t been a Democrat since you were 18, Meaghan. Stop this shit.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:13:37pm

re: #275 EPR-radar

Of course Meghan McCain approves of any ‘Democrat’ (like Lieberman) whose deepest political instinct is unconditional surrender to the Republican demands of the day.

Lieberman ain’t a Dem and hasn’t and he wasn’t when Meg’s father vetted him.

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:16:02pm

Ok.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:17:05pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:19:35pm

re: #278 MsJ

Ok.

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Should have figured when the announcement was made that he’d only cooperate to a point.

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jaunte  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:19:36pm

“After an intense lobbying campaign by the mortgage industry, the Treasury Department this week restarted a program that had been sidelined by the partial government shutdown, allowing hundreds of Internal Revenue Service clerks to collect paychecks as they process forms vital to the lending industry.”

This is always the Trump way: create a disruption and then charge for exceptions.

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:20:05pm

In a word, yes. Also Republicans.

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jaunte  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:21:18pm

Keep the mortgage business rolling, but cut the paychecks to the people buying the houses. More upward wealth transfer.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:21:21pm

re: #279 Anymouse ??

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I’m enjoying this empowered, taking no bullshit version of Nancy Pelosi more and more. The GOP made her out to be a monster in their campaign rhetoric, and she’s come back as their greatest nightmare in the legislative branch.

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:21:44pm

re: #280 Targetpractice

Should have figured when the announcement was made that he’d only cooperate to a point.

I still think there’s a Mueller aspect to what he can’t discuss.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:23:19pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:24:19pm

You can already hear the snickering from wingnuts that, while Cohen will be able to talk about all sorts of salacious and illegal shit Donny did, he can’t talk about Russia and thus “THERE’S NO PROOF OF COLLUSION!!!”

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:24:47pm

re: #280 Targetpractice

Should have figured when the announcement was made that he’d only cooperate to a point.

Anything covering the investigation into Russia is likely classified. They will be holding a classified portion of the hearing; if it’s going to be discussed, it will be then, not on C-SPAN.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:26:34pm

re: #286 Anymouse ??

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Uh no. It’s got nothing to do with you being Jewish. You acted like a bigoted clown.

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:26:56pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:27:33pm

re: #290 FormerDirtDart ????

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Nope. Fuck Romney tbo

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EPR-radar  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:29:54pm

re: #291 HappyWarrior

Nope. Fuck Romney tbo

Romney is just another standard-issue evil Republican piece of shit.

With Trump in office being such a total witless fucking cocksplat, it’s easy to forget just how heinous ‘normal’ Republicans are.

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TedStriker  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:30:04pm

re: #268 Joe Bacon ??

Nope. They’re too busy cleaning out the bongs!

Negatory, these are Republicans we’re talking about.

It’s either going to be cocaine spoons or meth pipes.

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William Lewis  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:30:43pm

re: #205 Eclectic Cyborg

I have been absolutely enthralled by Breath of the Wild. Super Mario Odyssey and Smash Bros. are solid too.

Skyrim and Warframe are great on the switch as well. Best $75 I ever spent….

Guy was trying to pawn it, pawn broker would not take it so I offered the guy $75 for the machine and $25 for Zelda :)

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Jay C  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:30:52pm

re: #246 EPR-radar

More to the point, something like this would harm the interests of US oligarchs, many of which are in the GOP donor class. This inaction of the GOP donor class vs. Trump is the biggest mystery I see in the current mess of US politics.

Maybe it’s not that much of a mystery: that “donor class” has to be aware that however incompetent Donny may be, there is a solid bloc of deluded Deplorables reliably Republican voters out there who worship his vile orange ass, and aren’t going to be susceptible to any overly (or even overtly) anti-Trump (or even non-Trump) alternate candidate. Even if lavishly financed.

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:31:12pm

Not gonna read it but if there eating their own I’m all for it.

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:33:34pm

Maybe she and Bernie can kill each other off.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:33:46pm

A small but important fact to remember:

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ObserverArt  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:34:51pm

re: #267 Anymouse ??

Meghan McCain ?
@MeghanMcCain

Joe Lieberman is one of the greatest politicians I have had the privilege of knowing and watching work with my father. He is a true example of bipartisanship and human decency that tragically has been lost in our current times. All of us in this country could take a page from him

2:49 PM - Jan 11, 2019

Shorter Meghan McCain: I too hate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

But I am going to be passive-aggressive about it because I have to look good for the public.

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Sea Mexican  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:39:23pm

re: #295 Jay C

Maybe it’s not that much of a mystery: that “donor class” has to be aware that however incompetent Donny may be, there is a solid bloc of deluded Deplorables reliably Republican voters out there who worship his vile orange ass, and aren’t going to be susceptible to any overly (or even overtly) anti-Trump (or even non-Trump) alternate candidate. Even if lavishly financed.

See Romney, Mitt.

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:41:00pm

re: #298 Barefoot Grin

A small but important fact to remember:

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Crenshaw’s only right if you assume that the Senate Dems would have been quicker to cut a deal in such a scenario, afraid of being stuck in the middle between a GOP House and a GOP Senate which would have the media’s support in dubbing the whole thing the “Schumer Shutdown.”

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freetoken  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:41:22pm

re: #300 Sea Mexican

If one is very rich, in this country, there is little to fear from the daily foibles of Trump.

The very top of the societal rung are very good at protecting themselves.

It’s the rest of us who are in danger.

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Jay C  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:42:14pm

re: #298 Barefoot Grin

And that it was the departing/retired Speaker - Paul Ryan, the Solon of Janesville - who dropped the whole “wall funding” thing (on a strict party-line vote of course) on the government practically as the last act of the 115th Congress. Kind of the way a departing disgruntled tenant relieves their bowels on the front hall rug as a “welcome present” for the landlord/new tenants.
Angry as one might get at their actions, unfortunately, cleaning up the mess has to be the first priority…

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:42:17pm

No thanks.

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:43:46pm

re: #297 MsJ

Maybe she and Bernie can kill each other off.

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So when is Bernie’s other stooge Nina Turner declaring?

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:43:52pm

The only danger of Tulsi and Bernie being in the race is the shrapnel produced from the two of them battling could damage others in the field.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:44:17pm

re: #298 Barefoot Grin

A small but important fact to remember:

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Dan, if the wall was so important why didn’t your fellow Republicans try to pass legislation for it in the majority? Stop lying.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:44:54pm

re: #297 MsJ

Maybe she and Bernie can kill each other off.

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Yeah pass.

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freetoken  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:44:57pm

re: #304 Anymouse ??

The more the merrier, I guess.

I doubt Gabbard will garner much of the vote.

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Belafon  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:45:25pm

re: #304 Anymouse ??

No thanks.

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Gonna love it when she finds out she’s irrelevant.

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freetoken  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:45:35pm

Was wondering why Alex Jones is trending.. then saw about the judge’s decision to allow discovery in the suit against him to go forward wrt financial documents.

Good.

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ObserverArt  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:46:05pm

re: #280 Targetpractice

Should have figured when the announcement was made that he’d only cooperate to a point.

Did you read the article?

Because I don’t think you would make that comment if you did!

Even the headline at CNN’s web site has “may not” in it.

And the reason for that is, Mueller is asking to keep some of the Russian stuff out due to the ongoing investigation.

Even Cohen’s own lawyers are saying that is in negotiation.

And one more thing to consider. Adam Schiff said some of it might not be for public consumption. That could be before the committee behind closed doors.

CNN wouldn’t be covering that…so therefore It may not be said by Cohen on their network.

You have to read everything and run it through interpretation as to what they are really saying. Much of our media is a disservice, don’t let them be.

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:46:13pm

Bernie vs. Gabbard. Who wins? Anybody who’s rooting for injuries.

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:48:38pm

re: #313 Targetpractice

Bernie vs. Gabbard. Who wins? Anybody who’s rooting for injuries.

Make it a 4 way with Kucinich and Nina Turner!

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ObserverArt  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:48:51pm

re: #292 EPR-radar

Romney is just another standard-issue evil Republican piece of shit.

With Trump in office being such a total witless fucking cocksplat, it’s easy to forget just how heinous ‘normal’ Republicans are.

But he is pretty good looking, and so he would make a great president. /

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:51:21pm

Bernie could just sit it out, give Tulsi his blessing, and avoid a lot of unnecessary bloodletting that will only hurt his movement while helping the “corporate Democrats.”

But he won’t, because it’s not about the movement, it’s about him and he won’t abide anyone taking his spot at “The One True Progressive.”

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:52:41pm

re: #91 Decatur Deb

I wonder if people like Kris Kobach, Tom Tancredo, and ex-Sheriff Clarke even know if this guy is using their names?

Considering the alleged frauds he’s run in the past, he might have just put their names on their without asking them.

I can’t imagine he knows that whole list of people.

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 3:55:39pm

This is so cute!! ??????

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Decatur Deb  Jan 11, 2019 • 4:00:38pm

re: #318 MsJ

This is so cute!! ??????

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Winnie the Pooh lives on 5th Avenue, a few blocks from Trump.

exhibitions.nypl.org

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Brian J.  Jan 11, 2019 • 4:00:55pm

re: #313 Targetpractice

Bernie vs. Gabbard. Who wins? Anybody who’s rooting for injuries.

Bernie vs. “Yo Gabba” Gabbard is the reverse of Alien vs. Predator: Whoever loses, we win!

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 11, 2019 • 4:02:10pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 4:02:55pm

Regardless of who loses between Gabbard and Sanders, they can rest assured that the Bros will spend the next 4 years insisting that the primaries were “rigged” against them anyway.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 11, 2019 • 4:07:34pm

The fundraisers at The Republican National Senatorial Committee have placed me on their INACTIVE list.

Que lastima !!

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 4:09:04pm

re: #323 Decatur Deb

The fundraisers at The Republican National Senatorial Committee have placed me on their INACTIVE list.

Que lastima !!

Oh the humanity!

//

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gocart mozart  Jan 11, 2019 • 4:10:02pm

Here is the 156 pg discovery request
civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov
the Order and plaintiff’s motion for clarification
civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov
civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov
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jaunte  Jan 11, 2019 • 4:11:45pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 11, 2019 • 4:17:01pm

GoFundMe wall guy setting up a “non-profit” after $20m in donations was the most predictable thing ever.

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Jay C  Jan 11, 2019 • 4:21:01pm

re: #323 Decatur Deb

The fundraisers at The Republican National Senatorial Committee have placed me on their INACTIVE list.

Que lastima !!

A shondeh, to be sure….

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Belafon  Jan 11, 2019 • 4:23:08pm
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Belafon  Jan 11, 2019 • 4:27:43pm
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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 4:28:09pm

Good ol’ anti-vaxxers.

Flu has sickened about 7 million in the U.S. so far, and half needed medical care (Washington Post)

Up to 84,000 have been hospitalised.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 11, 2019 • 4:30:59pm

re: #331 Anymouse ??

Good ol’ anti-vaxxers.

Flu has sickened about 7 million in the U.S. so far, and half needed medical care (Washington Post)

Up to 84,000 have been hospitalised.

Fuck those people. All of them. (The anti-vaxxers that is).

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 4:47:08pm

re: #322 Targetpractice

Regardless of who loses between Gabbard and Sanders, they can rest assured that the Bros will spend the next 4 years insisting that the primaries were “rigged” against them anyway.

I saw some of them insisting that they were why Nixon lost to Cuomo in NY. One of my friends in NY who is quite progressive and hell even supported Bernie was telling me that Nixon had a completely idiotic approach to the film and TV industry that provides so many jobs in NY.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 4:48:01pm

This is going to be a big field. Not unlike the GOP field that Trump emerged from but some of these people will be gone before Iowa. I’ve honestly lost track of who’s running.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 11, 2019 • 4:48:04pm

re: #313 Targetpractice

Bernie vs. Gabbard. Who wins? Anybody who’s rooting for injuries.

To be honest, Bernie. Tulsi is an opportunistic nutbag.

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bd(it's all true)  Jan 11, 2019 • 4:49:43pm

re: #313 Targetpractice

Bernie vs. Gabbard. Who wins? Anybody who’s rooting for injuries.

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EPR-radar  Jan 11, 2019 • 4:50:04pm

re: #335 Barefoot Grin

To be honest, Bernie. Tulsi is an opportunistic nutbag.

Bernie hasn’t done a good job of distinguishing himself from opportunistic nutbags.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 4:52:51pm

It’s going to be interesting because I remember in the Republican debates there would be some tag teaming, i.e. Trump and Christie would attack Rubio. Christie’s a crooked asshoel who belongs in jail but i did like the one liner he got on Rubio when he did the lame attempt at a zinger on Obama.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 11, 2019 • 4:54:47pm

It would be beneficial for the Dems to unite behind someone as early as possible for 2020.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 4:56:59pm

re: #339 Eclectic Cyborg

It would be beneficial for the Dems to unite behind someone as early as possible for 2020.

I just hope the losers pull a Perriello and voew to work hard for the winner. I just hope that winner isn’t Gabbard or Bernie.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:00:09pm

Good news from Texas:

Texas officials vote to remove Confederate plaque that says Civil War wasn’t over slavery
texastribune.org

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:03:03pm

re: #341 Anymouse ??

Good news from Texas:

Texas officials vote to remove Confederate plaque that says Civil War wasn’t over slavery
texastribune.org

I love how adamant the CSA apologists are that it wasn’t when the CSA founders pretty much said “Yeah we were worried that Lincoln would try to ban slavery, duh of course that’s why we left.”

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jaunte  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:06:07pm

Gabbard sure has a lot of nice things to say about Putin.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:06:49pm

LOL

moron

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:07:23pm

re: #341 Anymouse ??

Good news from Texas:

Texas officials vote to remove Confederate plaque that says Civil War wasn’t over slavery
texastribune.org

How’d that happen?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:07:24pm

re: #343 jaunte

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Gabbard sure has a lot of nice things to say about Putin.

Yikes.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:08:15pm

re: #344 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL

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moron

And that station knows that walls work how? Maybe if you spent less time trashing CNN for criticizing you, you’d actually merely be as bad as Buchanan rather than the abject failure you are.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:08:18pm

re: #337 EPR-radar

Bernie hasn’t done a good job of distinguishing himself from opportunistic nutbags.

Yeah, I thought the same thing after my post. But I still think she’s worse. Bernie’s always been a liberal populist; Tulsi started as an anti-LGBT person but then changed her mind when it was convenient to get elected. She also has shady connections to weird Hindu nationalist leaders, etc. And that’s not talking about her missions to Assad.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:10:34pm

re: #348 Barefoot Grin

Yeah, I thought the same thing after my post. But I still think she’s worse. Bernie’s always been a liberal populist; Tulsi started as an anti-LGBT person but then changed her mind when it was convenient to get elected. She also has shady connections to weird Hindu nationalist leaders, etc. And that’s not talking about her missions to Assad.

I think so too. Fortunately I don’t think either will be the nominee and I think each will be beaten before they can cause too much trouble. Tulsi is just known right now for backing Bernie over Clinton. When the opps research points that stuff out, I think she’ll be done.

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Interesting Times  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:10:59pm

Heh:

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:13:58pm

I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Greens nominate Tulsi.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:14:46pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:15:27pm

re: #351 Joe Bacon ??

I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Greens nominate Tulsi.

How are they going to explain her hawkish attacks on Obama?

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:15:29pm

re: #334 HappyWarrior

This is going to be a big field. Not unlike the GOP field that Trump emerged from but some of these people will be gone before Iowa. I’ve honestly lost track of who’s running.

So far I’ve heard Elizabeth Warren, Tulsi Gabbard, Kamala Harris. Amy Klobuchar “has not ruled it out,” Joe Biden thinks he’s the most qualified but hasn’t announced. Beto O’Rourke has offices in every state but has not made such an announcement yet.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:15:39pm

re: #351 Joe Bacon ??

I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Green nominate Tulsi.

I thought Jill Stein was running again?

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:16:13pm

A POTUS being trolled by the dictionary.

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EPR-radar  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:16:49pm

re: #352 Charles Johnson

Personally I wouldn’t say ‘never’ in terms of supporting Gabbard for president. Certainly not in the (D) primary. But in a general election where she is the (D) nominee vs. any Republican, hell yes.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:17:21pm

re: #345 MsJ

re: #341 Anymouse ??

Good news from Texas:

Texas officials vote to remove Confederate plaque that says Civil War wasn’t over slavery
texastribune.org

How’d that happen?

Sneaked through while the Republicans were fighting over that Muslim guy.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:17:21pm

re: #345 MsJ

How’d that happen?

It was actually a bipartisan thing. Dallas’s Democratic rep was passionate about it, but Greg Abbot and Dan Patrick have also said the plaque is ahistorical and should be removed somewhere else.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:17:50pm

re: #354 Anymouse ??

So far I’ve heard Elizabeth Warren, Tulsi Gabbard, Kamala Harris. Amy Klobuchar “has not ruled it out,” Joe Biden thinks he’s the most qualified but hasn’t announced. Beto O’Rourke has offices in every state but has not made such an announcement yet.

Same. I really like Beto. I’m interested in Amy Klobuchar. She’s not flashy but she’s a popular Senator in a region we’ve struggled in and I was impressed with her in the Kavanaugh hearings. She’s someone if she doesn’t run, I wouldn’t mind seeing considered for AG or SCOTUS.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:18:29pm

re: #360 HappyWarrior

Same. I really like Beto. I’m interested in Amy Klobuchar. She’s not flashy but she’s a popular Senator in a region we’ve struggled in and I was impressed with her in the Kavanaugh hearings. She’s someone if she doesn’t run, I wouldn’t mind seeing considered for AG or SCOTUS.

Klobuchar has been awesome and I’m happy to be one of her constituents. If she ran, I would back her with everything.

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EPR-radar  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:18:30pm

re: #356 MsJ

A POTUS being trolled by the dictionary.

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See also emergency rooms and medical triage where issues are carefully prioritized by their urgency.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:18:37pm

re: #355 Eclectic Cyborg

I thought Jill Stein was running again?

Probably is. The Libertarians will also have multiple candidates. Gary Johnson probably is done but Bill Weld is urnning again.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:19:14pm

re: #357 EPR-radar

Personally I wouldn’t say ‘never’ in terms of supporting Gabbard for president. Certainly not in the (D) primary. But in a general election where she is the (D) nominee vs. any Republican, hell yes.

Luckily, she’ll never get into that position and we’ll never have to make that choice.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:19:26pm

re: #361 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Klobuchar has been awesome and I’m happy to be one of her constituents. If she ran, I would back her with everything.

She doesn’t make the news a lot but some of us in my Slovene-American FB group I’m a member of were talking about her with pride. I’d be very happy if she replaced Melon as the most famous Slovenian-American in the country.

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Jay C  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:19:36pm

re: #343 jaunte

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Gabbard sure has a lot of nice things to say about Putin.

Isn’t Tulsi Gabbard’s fundamental shtick a sort of virulent anti-Islamic (cloaked as anti-*Islamism*) obsession: along with that Hindu-nationalist thing (a big Modi fan, I think), dolled up in conventional American lefty-ism to keep the wingnut stink away??

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:19:38pm

If any Democrat actually has to run against Trump, our system of checks on power has failed so miserably anything is likely. Nightmarish.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:19:45pm

re: #364 Charles Johnson

Luckily, she’ll never get into that position and we’ll never have to make that choice.

I’d be shocked if she’s still there in Iowa.

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EPR-radar  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:21:30pm

re: #366 Jay C

Isn’t Tulsi Gabbard’s fundamental shtick a sort of virulent anti-Islamic (cloaked as anti-*Islamism*) obsession: along with that Hindu-nationalist thing (a big Modi fan, I think), dolled up in conventional American lefty-ism to keep the wingnut stink away??

Oh dear. What little I know of Hindu fundamentalism is that it is basically an import to India of US religious right nonsense in local idiom and not really improved by the translation. Ick.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:21:40pm

re: #364 Charles Johnson

Luckily, she’ll never get into that position and we’ll never have to make that choice.

This is what people used to say about Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:22:29pm

re: #366 Jay C

Isn’t Tulsi Gabbard’s fundamental shtick a sort of virulent anti-Islamic (cloaked as anti-*Islamism*) obsession: along with that Hindu-nationalist thing (a big Modi fan, I think), dolled up in conventional American lefty-ism to keep the wingnut stink away??

She’s definitely quite odd. I have no idea why she was on the DNC executive committee prior to her weird abrupt switch from Clinton to Bernie midway thru a couple years ago. Something’s off about her.

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jaunte  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:22:51pm

One for the annals of marginal self-promoters.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:23:05pm

The so-called liberal media:

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:23:17pm

re: #370 Eclectic Cyborg

This is what people used to say about Trump.

That’s true but Trump had name recon already in a way that Tulsi doesn’t and I like to think Dem primary voters are a bit more sensible.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:23:24pm

re: #366 Jay C

Isn’t Tulsi Gabbard’s fundamental shtick a sort of virulent anti-Islamic (cloaked as anti-*Islamism*) obsession: along with that Hindu-nationalist thing (a big Modi fan, I think), dolled up in conventional American lefty-ism to keep the wingnut stink away??

Basically correct, with a history of homophobia as well.

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bd(it's all true)  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:23:51pm

re: #355 Eclectic Cyborg

I thought Jill Stein was running again?

Hopefully she burned a few bridges with her recount fundraising scam last cycle.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:24:14pm

re: #372 jaunte

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One for the annals of marginal self-promoters.

Oh man, I had forgotten that Bannon loves her. Had no idea she had beef with Hirono who I like.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:24:48pm

Neo-Nazi Richard Spencer is also a Tulsi fan.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:24:54pm

re: #375 Charles Johnson

Basically correct, with a history of homophobia as well.

It amazed that the Bros forgave that and acted like HRC was just awful for doing the standard for civil unions but against gay marriage thing. Tulsi was outright hostile to LGBT rights for a long time.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:24:55pm

re: #371 HappyWarrior

She’s definitely quite odd. I have no idea why she was on the DNC executive committee prior to her weird abrupt switch from Clinton to Bernie midway thru a couple years ago. Something’s off about her.

Her family is Republicans. She was a long-time anti-LGBT and forced birther, but switched parties to win the Democratic primary for her seat.

He father is a wingnut radio host in Honolulu. He was the former wingnut mayor of Honolulu.

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jaunte  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:25:07pm

re: #377 HappyWarrior

Bannon loves chaos, so I guess she appeals to him.

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:26:00pm

I have no more free articles and refuse to subscribe.

Anyone able to do a Cliff Notes version?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:26:01pm

re: #380 Anymouse ??

Her family is Republicans. She was a long-time anti-LGBT and forced birther, but switched parties to win the Democratic primary for her seat.

He father is a wingnut radio host in Honolulu. He was the former wingnut mayor of Honolulu.

Oh I know that. As I said, I don’t trust her a damn bit.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:26:19pm

re: #381 jaunte

Bannon loves chaos, so I guess she appeals to him.

They also both really hate Muslims and Obama.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:26:19pm

re: #380 Anymouse ??

Her family is Republicans. She was a long-time anti-LGBT and forced birther, but switched parties to win the Democratic primary for her seat.

He father is a wingnut radio host in Honolulu. He was the former wingnut mayor of Honolulu.

Her father was also a highly placed member of the whacked out Chris Butler cult in Hawaii.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:27:26pm

re: #385 Charles Johnson

Her father was also a highly placed member of the whacked out Richard Butler cult in Hawaii.

Richard Butler of Aryan Nations fame? Wow.

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:27:49pm

re: #375 Charles Johnson

Basically correct, with a history of homophobia as well.

Yeah. She’s going places. ??

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Charles Johnson  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:28:19pm

re: #386 HappyWarrior

Not Richard - Chris Butler. Typed ahead of brain.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:28:34pm

How the hell did her old man get elected Mayor of Honolulu? Charles probably knows Hawaii the best of anyone here. I don’t know much about Hawaiian politics but that just stuns me since Hawaii is such a reliable Democratic state in presidential elections and I thought its biggest city well.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:29:19pm

re: #388 Charles Johnson

Not Richard - Chris Butler. Typed ahead of brain.

Ahhhh okay. Never heard of him.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:32:34pm

I am glad Inslee is looking at running. I actually like him more than my own former Governor, Terry Mac. I’ve warmed up on Terry Mac a lot over the past six years since he was first elected our governor but I’ don’t see him as Presidential material. I also think he’s too tied with the Clintons for many people’s comfort.

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Jay C  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:35:18pm

re: #388 Charles Johnson

Not Richard - Chris Butler. Typed ahead of brain.

OK, who is Chris Butler?
Wikipedia lists eight of them: none seem to be associated with anything cultish/political (except for one who is/was a Tory MP).

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Charles Johnson  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:35:34pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:36:51pm

re: #392 Jay C

OK, who is Chris Butler?
Wikipedia list eight of them: none seem to be associated with anything cultish/political (except for one who is/was a Tory MP).

honolulumagazine.com

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:37:34pm

re: #393 Charles Johnson

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Well I believe in her. I believe in her being held accountable for being an Assad apologist.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:37:46pm

re: #385 Charles Johnson

Her father was also a highly placed member of the whacked out Chris Butler cult in Hawaii.

I had to look that up. Yikes.
ramaransonvsthecult.wordpress.com (with video of her parents mocking Christians with the cult leader, 2:48)

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Charles Johnson  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:37:58pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:39:19pm

re: #397 Charles Johnson

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Jesus.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:39:33pm

This is worse than Bernie tbh.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:40:45pm

re: #397 Charles Johnson

I find it troublesome to upfist that, Mr. Johnson.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:41:09pm

OT It is supposed to snow Saturday night into Sunday morning. Philly is supposed to get 1-2 inches of snow. I have my shovel and salt ready to go. The snow was supposed to start tomorrow afternoon but it got pushed back to tomorrow evening. I am going to do my weekly food shopping tomorrow.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:41:27pm

I’m from Hawaii, so I got the word about the Chris Butler cult a while ago. Was a nasty shock to hear that someone who came up in that environment was starting to exploit the far left.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:41:32pm

I mean Bernie is an ass but at least he’s on the right side of an issue more than not and is hated by the right people on the right.

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:41:52pm

re: #382 MsJ

I have no more free articles and refuse to subscribe.

Anyone able to do a Cliff Notes version?

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Got it!

apple.news

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Jay C  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:43:41pm

re: #398 HappyWarrior

Jesus.

re: #399 HappyWarrior

This is worse than Bernie tbh.

Agree: thanks for the link, Charles.

And hopefully, Tulsi can look forward to spending a lot of time back in Hawaii next election season…..

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:44:08pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:44:18pm

re: #405 Jay C

Agree: thanks for the link, Charles.

And hopefully, Tulsi can look forward to spending a lot of time back in Hawaii next election season…..

I’m surprised that she wasn’t primaried.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:45:03pm

re: #406 FormerDirtDart ????

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So I’m otherwords, Trump brought a lot of this on himself haha.

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TedStriker  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:45:29pm

re: #357 EPR-radar

Personally I wouldn’t say ‘never’ in terms of supporting Gabbard for president. Certainly not in the (D) primary. But in a general election where she is the (D) nominee vs. any Republican, hell yes.

True enough, but I don’t think we’ll have to worry about Gabbard making it to the general TBH…she’ll get picked apart in the primaries and before.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:47:13pm

re: #409 TedStriker

True enough, but I don’t think we’ll have to worry about Gabbard making it to the general TBH…she’ll get picked apart in the primaries and before.

Yeah I’m sure the opps researchers are having a field day.

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Dizzy  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:49:58pm

Trudeau confirms Saudi asylum seeker coming to Canada

“That is something that we are pleased to do because Canada is a country that understands how important it is to stand up for human rights, to stand up for women’s rights around the world,” Trudeau said, during a media availability in Regina.

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Jay C  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:50:05pm

re: #410 HappyWarrior

Yeah I’m sure the opps researchers are having a field day.

Doesn’t sound like they’re going to have a difficult time of it, either.

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VegasGolfer  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:50:37pm

re: #344 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL

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moron

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:50:55pm

re: #412 Jay C

Doesn’t sound like they’re going to have a difficult time of it, either.

Yeah. I’d be shocked if she’s above water in January 2020.

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Belafon  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:51:05pm

Someone go to any state not named Texas, California, or Hawaii and ask Beto or Tulsi and I’m sure 3/4 of them will be “Tulsi who?” You’d actually get the same reaction in Texas, but he’s also known outside the state. And the Democrats that do know her won’t have anything nice to say.

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EPR-radar  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:53:54pm

re: #415 Belafon

Someone got to any state not named Texas, California, or Hawaii and ask Beto or Tulsi and I’m sure 3/4 of them will be “Tulsi who?” You’d actually get the same reaction in Texas, but he’s also known outside the state. And the Democrats that do know her won’t have anything nice to say.

The danger would be if she campaigns in full Trump mode and just says lies that people want to believe. The (D) establishment has screwed the pooch enough on economic issues to make that kind of thing a real threat, even in a (D) primary.

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teleskiguy  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:54:07pm

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We were doing a demo near London during a Bones Brigade tour in 1990 when a kid asked if we’d like to come to his house for dinner. It was an unusual request, but he had confidence and explained that his dad would be excited to meet us. We quickly learned that his name was Dhani Harrison, and his dad was the legendary George Harrison. We agreed, and headed to his place (castle) after the demo. His mom Olivia was a most gracious host, offering us homemade pizza. She proudly gave us a preview of a charity album she organized to benefit Romanian orphans that featured the Traveling Wilburys, who would be recording at their home studio the following day. We were led into the living room where George and Tom Petty were fixated on the World Cup finals. It was surreal. Dhani showed us his room and some of his guitar techniques he had learned from Bob Dylan, who was scheduled to arrive later that night. Dhani and I have remained in contact to this day, and it has been inspiring to see how him forging his own way as a talented musician while keeping the grace and humility of his legendary father.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:58:37pm

re: #417 teleskiguy

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I miss George. My favorite Beatle. Dhani’s a chip off the block. And George and Petty watching the Stanley Cup finals over Pizza while young Tony Hawk watches.

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Belafon  Jan 11, 2019 • 5:58:57pm

re: #416 EPR-radar

The danger would be if she campaigns in full Trump mode and just says lies that people want to believe. The (D) establishment has screwed the pooch enough on economic issues to make that kind of thing a real threat, even in a (D) primary.

The only time Democrats screw up on describing the economy is when it’s doing well. I doubt we’re going to have that issue.

She has to get through the Democratic primary. What people outside of Hawaii know about her involves Syria. She’s not going to last very long.

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แอดไลน์รับเครดิตฟรี 50Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 6:02:04pm

Twitter is lighting up over a new article in the NYT.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 11, 2019 • 6:02:28pm

GOOD MORNING VIET NAM!

Now playing on Vice (Ch 271 on DirecTV)

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fern01  Jan 11, 2019 • 6:04:22pm

re: #128 Dr. Matt

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Donnie just clowned himself and proved there is no national emergency. Oooooops

So why doesn’t he ask the GOP senate to come back into session and do its job?

Just impeach the m.f.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 6:04:58pm

re: #420 Anymouse ??

Twitter is lighting up over a new article in the NYT.

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HOly crap.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 11, 2019 • 6:05:59pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 11, 2019 • 6:08:19pm

re: #424 Single-handed sailor

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Oh Jesus.

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fern01  Jan 11, 2019 • 6:08:59pm

re: #153 ObserverArt

Can’t call an emergency on that. If he does, he might get impeached. That is why people are saying Mitch is standing back. Mitch knows the laws and he knows what can break them. And he isn’t going to be a party to it.

Mitch is standing back because he wants the government to remain shut down. In one movement he could vote on the House Bill & reopen the government.

MicConnell is as responsible as trump for the current funding mess.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 11, 2019 • 6:09:28pm
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fern01  Jan 11, 2019 • 6:13:35pm

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is so full of shit

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As are the sycophants who bow down before him.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 6:13:59pm
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fern01  Jan 11, 2019 • 6:16:43pm

re: #222 FormerDirtDart ????

Everything he says is a lie

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And re really loves not paying contractors for the work they do - how many times do they have to lose before they get the message

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 6:17:22pm

They really are out of ideas. The first one wasn’t that good.

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fern01  Jan 11, 2019 • 6:22:35pm

re: #290 FormerDirtDart ????

Paul Krugman - only writer at the nyt worth reading - wish he’d go work for someone else - I don’t read the nyt


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