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Jan. 4, 2019 | Felix Contreras — Saxophonist Miguel Zenón is a big thinker — that much is clear from his recorded output, with its deep and inspiring connection to the folk traditions of his native Puerto Rico. But you also get that sense from his turn behind the Tiny Desk, where we can watch the concentration on his face and those of his adventurous band, the Spektral Quartet. This is life-affirming music with curious twists and turns, expertly performed by amazingly talented musicians.

There are two ways to marvel at the stunning unison playing that comes about three-quarters of the way through “Milagrosa.” First, listen with your eyes closed. The notes cascade at a such a fast clip, it can leave you breathless. Now, watch with your eyes open: It’s a joy to see Zenón and his band read the notes from the page, at times sneaking in visual cues with smiles just below the surface. It must be such a pleasure to make music like this.

Set List
“Rosario”
“Milagrosa”
“Villabe?o”

Credits
Producers: Felix Contreras, Morgan Noelle Smith; Creative Director: Bob Boilen; Audio Engineer: Josh Rogosin; Videographers: Morgan Noelle Smith, Kaylee Domzalski, CJ Riculan; Production Assistant: Brie Martin; Photo: Heather Kim/NPR

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 8:47:51pm
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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 8:50:49pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 8:51:53pm

re: #1 MsJ

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Graham really has fantasies of wearing one of those stylish camp commandant uniforms.

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Belafon  Jan 11, 2019 • 8:52:27pm

This is why AOC is useful to the Democrats and why a lot of the party likes her, she’s moving discussions:

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 8:54:21pm

ZING!

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 8:56:12pm

re: #128 jaunte

Plenty of chaos agents to go around.

You get a chaos agent, and you get a chaos agent …

Get Smart TV Series Intro

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2019 • 8:56:20pm

Fer shame!

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Myron Falwell  Jan 11, 2019 • 8:58:46pm

What a night for me to re-emerge… ^^;

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jaunte  Jan 11, 2019 • 8:59:30pm

re: #6 Anymouse ??

You started an earworm for me as soon as I saw the picture.

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:00:06pm

re: #1 MsJ

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Myron Falwell  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:00:27pm

re: #6 Anymouse ??

You get a chaos agent, and you get a chaos agent …

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…and you get a shoe phone and you get a shoe phone… XD

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:00:42pm
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jaunte  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:00:52pm

re: #6 Anymouse ??

Although I never knew it was in color.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:01:21pm

re: #8 Myron Falwell

Oh you pupas and your wacky Google maps and apps, get off my virtual lawn!

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jaunte  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:01:31pm

re: #8 Myron Falwell

What a night for me to re-emerge… ^^;

Join us in the Cone of Silence!

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gocart mozart  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:03:16pm
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Belafon  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:03:49pm

I’m bringing this over for the late hangers and the early risers just because it’s cool: Lego is selling a Saturn V kit. You can build a 1 meter long rocket with a detachable third stage, a lunar orbiter and lander. It has 1969 pieces: amazon.com My coworker said it took him about 7 hours to build.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:04:49pm

re: #13 jaunte

Although I never knew it was in color.

I’m pretty sure the first season at least wasn’t.

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gocart mozart  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:05:12pm
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Myron Falwell  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:05:49pm

re: #16 gocart mozart

Of course his name has to be Alex Emric Jones.

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:09:27pm

re: #20 Myron Falwell

Of course his name has to be Alex Emric Jones.

And here I thought it was Fuckwad.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:09:30pm

re: #17 Belafon

I’m bringing this over for the late hangers and the early risers: Lego is selling a Saturn V kit. You can build a 1 meter long rocket with a detachable third stage, a lunar orbiter and lander. It has 1969 pieces: amazon.com. My coworker said it took him about 7 hours to build.

Another Scott Manley video:

Lego NASA Saturn V - Hands On Build & Review

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:09:57pm

Nice drive-by cartooning with y’all. Later lizards, and do carry on.

Jason Adam Katzenstein
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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:10:19pm

By the way, notice the wording in Graham’s tweet. He doesn’t say there’s no path forward for reopening the gov’t, he says there’s no path forward for wall funding even if the gov’t reopens.

The GOP truly are hoping that Donny will made that declaration simply so they have cover to vote to reopen the gov’t without wall funding.

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:11:55pm

re: #19 gocart mozart

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Maxine should have kept smacking Michael Tracey in the head to knock some sense into him!

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Myron Falwell  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:12:31pm

re: #19 gocart mozart

Oh look, Michael Tracey’s jumping at the bit to defend Tulsi, surely that’s going to help her presidential aspirations

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Charles Johnson  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:13:02pm
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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:13:52pm

re: #9 jaunte

You started an earworm for me as soon as I saw the picture.

My work here is done. /s

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:20:27pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

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Worthy of laughter: The reality that a lot of those refunds will be going back to bots.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:21:13pm

re: #21 MsJ

And here I thought it was Fuckwad.

I thought so too lol

But I now know his name can be rearranged in a number of ways

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Myron Falwell  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:23:02pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

Those morons don’t deserve their money back anyway. If I’m not mistaken, you cannot crowdfund a public works project.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:23:18pm
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Chrysicat  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:23:29pm
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Myron Falwell  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:25:29pm

re: #32 Anymouse ??

If given a choice between Russian state TV and Laura Ingraham, I’d unplug my TV set and throw it out the window.

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:26:29pm

This episode of the original Outer Limits scared me to death as a kid. The President was replaced by a Chinese imposter and began to sabotage the government.

Now we are facing this in real life with a Russian asset in the Oval Office!

dailymotion.com

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:28:43pm

re: #31 Myron Falwell

Those morons don’t deserve their money back anyway. If I’m not mistaken, you cannot crowdfund a public works project.

You can in certain instances. However, the way this was pitched was it would be raised for Congress to help fund a racist monument wall. The Constitution leaves appropriations with Congress, not with others such as GoFundMe, even if this had been legitimate.

At lower levels of government that is possible under certain restrictions (such as donations to public libraries or construction projects on behalf of cities or counties).

At the federal level, statutes require donations to the government go into the general fund to be appropriated as Congress directs in compliance with the Constitution.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:29:30pm

re: #35 Joe Bacon ??

This episode of the original Outer Limits scared me to death as a kid. The President was replaced by a Chinese imposter and began to sabotage the government.

Now we are facing this in real life with a Russian asset in the Oval Office!

dailymotion.com

I was 11. I couldn’t make it past remolding the guy’s face….

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:30:37pm

This is a great read! Really. Just great.

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:32:15pm

re: #30 Myron Falwell

I thought so too lol

But I now know his name can be rearranged in a number of ways

Is there honest to God a website for everything?

Why yes, there is. ??????

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:35:36pm
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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:37:20pm

re: #39 MsJ

Is there honest to God a website for everything?

Why yes, there is. ??????

When I input this guy’s name only 3 Anagrams were formed!

Clank Trek
Rack Knelt
Tank Clerk

Guess Who?????????

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:41:05pm
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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:42:32pm

re: #41 Joe Bacon ??

When I input this guy’s name only 3 Anagrams were formed!

Clank Trek
Rack Knelt
Tank Clerk

Guess Who?????????

Your are such a super dude!

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Anymouse ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:44:58pm

I’m off to bed. It’s been real, y’all.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:49:39pm

re: #38 MsJ

This is a great read! Really. Just great.

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Hoarse’s postscript to that thread made my jaw drop. Holy shit.

I’m speechless.

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:52:34pm

re: #45 Myron Falwell

Hoarse’s postscript to that thread made my jaw drop. Holy shit.

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I’m speechless.

That was especially satisfying, wasn’t it?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:53:46pm

I gave up anagrams after: Howard Phillips Lovecraft == Tall Chap for Devil Worship. No way to top that.

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:54:32pm

Trump isn’t the only one backed into a corner. So is the NRA, McConnell, CPAC, The Kochs, The Mercers, Adelman, Fries and a whole bunch of Conservative activists.

Note how all those right wing Pulpit Pimps wrapped themselves around Putin, especially Franky Graham Cracker.

All of them are going down.

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:56:24pm

re: #47 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I gave up anagrams after: Howard Phillips Lovecraft == Tall Chap for Devil Worship. No way to top that.

My name had 131,579 anagrams.

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 9:57:20pm

re: #48 Joe Bacon ??

Trump isn’t the only one backed into a corner. So is the NRA, McConnell, CPAC, The Kochs, The Mercers, Adelman, Fries and a whole bunch of Conservative activists.

Note how all those right wing Pulpit Pimps wrapped themselves around Putin, especially Franky Graham Cracker.

All of them are going down.

I think you’re waaassaaaaaaaaaay too optimistic in that. Waaaaaaaaaaay too.

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 10:00:53pm

re: #50 MsJ

I think you’re waaassaaaaaaaaaay too optimistic in that. Waaaaaaaaaaay too.

My Spidey Sense is telling me that a political quake of 10 on the Richter scale is getting ready to hit DC

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 10:03:00pm

JFC

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MsJ  Jan 11, 2019 • 10:04:22pm

re: #51 Joe Bacon ??

My Spidey Sense is telling me that a political quake of 10 on the Richter scale is getting ready to hit DC

I agree. But if you think Franklin Graham is going down your fucking nuts.

He’ll continue to bilk the rubes until he dies.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 11, 2019 • 10:07:11pm

re: #50 MsJ

I think you’re waaassaaaaaaaaaay too optimistic in that. Waaaaaaaaaaay too.

The NRA is definitely fucked because of the whole Maria Butina thing.

Meanwhile, McConnell has backed himself into a corner by allowing the shutdown and refusing a vote for it to end, which in the short term is a win for him, but he’s fucked in the long-term when his stonewalling inevitably falls apart. That’s nowhere near the great tactician he claims to be.

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 10:10:18pm

re: #53 MsJ

I agree. But if you think Franklin Graham is going down your fucking nuts.

He’ll continue to bilk the rubes until he dies.

I got a feeling Franky the Million Dollar Whore is going down!

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Myron Falwell  Jan 11, 2019 • 10:16:48pm

re: #53 MsJ

I agree. But if you think Franklin Graham is going down your fucking nuts.

He’ll continue to bilk the rubes until he dies.

It does make me wonder sometimes if people like Franklin, Jeffers and Jerry Jr. went all-in on Trump for just a little more than a want of the almighty dollar from their followers.

If any of them are found to be Russian agents or significant players in this whole thing, I’d be shocked, by which I mean, not shocked at all.** But I’m not betting anything on it just yet.

**shamelessly lifted from Molly Jong-Fast

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Myron Falwell  Jan 11, 2019 • 10:19:25pm

re: #52 MsJ

JFC

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the best and the brightest

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 10:20:39pm

re: #56 Myron Falwell

It does make me wonder sometimes if people like Franklin, Jeffers and Jerry Jr. went all-in on Trump for just a little more than a want of the almighty dollar from their followers.

If any of them are found to be Russian agents or significant players in this whole thing, I’d be shocked, by which I mean, not shocked at all.** But I’m not betting anything on it just yet.

**shamelessly lifted from Molly Jong-Fast

We already found out about Jerry Jr and his $1.8 million dollar pool boy pal…

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Belafon  Jan 11, 2019 • 10:20:50pm

re: #47 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I gave up anagrams after: Howard Phillips Lovecraft == Tall Chap for Devil Worship. No way to top that.

I found my pseudonym as an anagram: Manuel Polanski

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Belafon  Jan 11, 2019 • 10:24:36pm

Now all I need to do is write a book.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 11, 2019 • 10:27:50pm

re: #12 MsJ

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austin_blue  Jan 11, 2019 • 10:31:13pm

re: #38 MsJ

This is a great read! Really. Just great.

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You are exactly right. It’s a ball-buster to the Admin, yet the question is: “What did Pence know, and when did he know it?”

Drumpf is obviously fucked, blued, screwed, and tattooed.

Yes, yes, yes, I know it’s early days, but this appears to not be the end of the beginning, but the beginning of the end for him.

Hoozah!

Night all, sweet scaly dreams.

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sagehen  Jan 11, 2019 • 10:31:27pm

re: #42 MsJ

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There was a recent Bull episode where their client was arrested based on DNA traced through one of those companies; and a child eyewitness picked the guy out of a lineup. But he had a solid alibi 100 miles away.

Spoiler — turns out he was adopted at birth, never knew he had a twin brother. Oops.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 11, 2019 • 10:37:09pm

Best thing I’ve seen all day

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 11, 2019 • 10:41:59pm

re: #53 MsJ

I agree. But if you think Franklin Graham is going down your fucking nuts.

He’ll continue to bilk the rubes until he dies.

Jerome Corsi is a major figure in pulpit pimp world and he has practically gone down already. He and his quack lawyer Klayman just won’t admit it yet.
Fact is, the subversion of the 2016 election was only the most egregious of a series of Russian influence operations targeting the American right. These operations go back to at least as early as the first part of the Obama Administration. Jade Helm was in 2015, the NYT article exposing the St. Petersburg troll farm ran in 2014. Their proven attempt to promote crackpot secession movements in Texas and California dates from no later than the middle of 2013. It is highly unlikely that they would ignore the opportunity to exploit an asset as influential and as corrupt as the big time Evangelicals. I don’t know if Graham is involved in this but is not much of a stretch to suggest that he might be.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 11, 2019 • 10:48:02pm

re: #38 MsJ

So Obama left an easter egg

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 11, 2019 • 10:48:53pm

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 11, 2019 • 10:49:35pm

I’m so glad to see the Sandy Hook parents get to put Alex Jones in the vise.

Hopefully that allows Seth Rich’s family to go after Hannity and people slandered by SMOTI to also take them out as well!

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Myron Falwell  Jan 11, 2019 • 10:56:56pm

re: #68 Joe Bacon ??

I’m so glad to see the Sandy Hook parents get to put Alex Jones in the vise.

Hopefully that allows Seth Rich’s family to go after Hannity and people slandered by SMOTI to also take them out as well!

That would be so perfect, but I’d also be okay with Lumpy being indicted.

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Targetpractice  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:23:49pm

re: #67 I Would Prefer Not To

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:25:39pm

R. Kelly, Trump Tower, and women hostages. Can’t make this sh*t up.

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:27:59pm

re: #71 DodgerFan1988

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R. Kelly, Trump Tower, and women hostages. Can’t make this sh*t up.

Someone did.
Cops talked to the women. They weren’t hostages.
Someone ‘SWATed’ R. Kelly

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:29:47pm

The world split off into different timelines a few years ago and we drew the short straw.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:35:16pm
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:43:32pm

re: #74 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The Trumpistas and Qidiots will spin this latest revelation as more evidence of a Deep State vendetta against Trump. “They let him win the election, so they could bring him down!!1ty!!”

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sagehen  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:44:10pm

re: #72 FormerDirtDart ????

Someone did.
Cops talked to the women. They weren’t hostages.
Someone ‘SWATed’ R. Kelly

This isn’t the first time some Kelly Girl’s parents called the cops for a welfare check; the women always say they’re fine, there of their own free will, etc. And a year or two later they’re finally ready to break with him.

Knowing they had somebody who still cared enough to check, that they’d have family to go back to, made it possible for them to eventually find the will to leave the abusive situation.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:44:28pm

I love the little time bomb Obama is said to have left behind.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:44:55pm

Still no sign of a run on guns and ammo, but Tactical Bacon is up to 28.99 a can.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:49:45pm

From way upstairs…

Sadly, I had a dumb and didn’t load the image in the tweet for the proper effect…

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 11, 2019 • 11:53:55pm
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:01:52am

re: #80 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Funny thing is, I think the shops pay more to get top billing on the entrance sign, so Kohl’s clearly is pissed at Dick’s.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:11:39am

Cthulhu help us all:

President Donald Trump’s daughter, Ivanka Trump, who works as a White House adviser, is one of the names being considered as a replacement for The World Bank’s outgoing president, Jim Yong Kim, the Financial Times reported Friday.

The DC-based World Bank, founded after World War II to finance economic-development projects in emerging economies, has traditionally been led by an American. Kim’s sudden departure from the bank came as a surprise to employees and leaves the bank’s future uncertain.

The Trump administration, which has been wary of and even hostile toward Western-led international institutions like the World Bank, will now be tasked with submitting a recommendation to the bank’s board.

Other possible American nominees to lead the bank include undersecretary of the Treasury for International Affairs David Malpass, US Agency for International Development director Mark Green, and former UN ambassador Nikki Haley, the Financial Times said.

businessinsider.com

Summon the meteors, amirite?

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Sufficient unto the day...  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:36:00am

re: #82 Dr Lizardo

Not Ivanka, after all, he doesn’t want her too far away from him, because…yeah…

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:36:21am

re: #82 Dr Lizardo

Two of those nominees make sense. The other two are just to fluff up egos.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:41:44am

Not sure how many of you caught it, but the first tune in today’s TDC quotes this folk song.

Jewel - Simple gifts

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:45:13am

re: #84 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Two of those nominees make sense. The other two are just to fluff up egos.

David Malpass I could see. Not so much Nikki, but Ivanka? Hell no.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:55:36am

re: #86 Dr Lizardo

David Malpass I could see. Not so much Nikki, but Ivanka? Hell no.

Nikki and Ivanka were nominated mostly to fluff their egos and Trump’s. That way, they can put “Nominated to be president of the World Bank” on their CVs.

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Ming5000  Jan 12, 2019 • 1:00:05am

CL’d
A few weeks ago Y-tube started to recommend Shields and Brooks on PBS. I was surprised PBS still did this segment.
Last week I had to stop watching after Brooks, in reference to the wall debate, blithely said Dems should just give in to Trump because Trump won an election on the Wall.
This week Brooks had the same take. BOTH SIDES, Trump and Pelosi, were at fault because they reside in Towers of Ego.
Mark Shields did a good job laying out the facts.
Brooks thinks paying off Trump with a few billion is what Dems should do.
Republicans are so weazelly with their words. Shields did a good job of push back.

Shields and Brooks on border wall negotiations, Mueller updates

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freetoken  Jan 12, 2019 • 1:23:32am

Violin babe Esther Abrami and her kittens:

Kitten’s Reaction To Violin - Christmas Edition!

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 12, 2019 • 1:32:08am

A question -

8tnMqr6gNeogrwD0KWDLNomSPr88FhkIeMpFcIYTq61oOC2EHw6WGKwIF9KoJQVNvPkoB8GBJnm78VNbEF1sUYP11Loj0wjHhdUuRDeTq6ZxNkJNcyolavKrRd0j+4k18Vs75toTj7P+Rwgb2YS+0SycyUdFr4qOhHBBAe51yll8tFQKgbfTQ/uGO7Nxlkrxha5Cbv0n8r239U7aCtrgbjdKnP10YFtd

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freetoken  Jan 12, 2019 • 2:39:35am

re: #90 Dr Lizardo

Never tried it so don’t know.

But the Wikipedia entry suggests that the company’s model works in the US, Canada, and the UK.

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freetoken  Jan 12, 2019 • 2:41:46am

List of supported countries and currencies:

support.gofundme.com

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 12, 2019 • 2:56:13am

re: #92 freetoken

List of supported countries and currencies:

support.gofundme.com

Ah. OK. I didn’t know that; it doesn’t work where I’m at. Bummer.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 12, 2019 • 3:07:37am

re: #93 Dr Lizardo

There are other options, usually involving bitcoin or European payment processors. You’d need to do some googling to find them, though.

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freetoken  Jan 12, 2019 • 3:53:29am
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Single-handed sailor  Jan 12, 2019 • 4:17:23am
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Single-handed sailor  Jan 12, 2019 • 4:21:51am
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freetoken  Jan 12, 2019 • 4:26:45am

The following (summary of recent research) has gotten some media attention, but probably not enough:

How fast are the oceans warming?

[…]

Simulations of future climate use a set of scenarios or plausible radiative forcing pathways based on assumptions about demographic and socioeconomic development and technological changes (5). Two scenarios shown in the figure project a substantial warming in the 21st century. For the Representative Concentration Pathways (RCP) 2.6 scenario, the models project an ocean warming (0 to 2000 m) of 1037 zettajoules (ZJ) (~0.40 K) at the end of the 21st century
(mean of 2081-2100 relative to 1991-2005); this pathway is close to the Paris Agreement goal of limiting global warming to well below 2°C. For the RCP8.5 scenario, a business as-usual scenario with high greenhouse gas emissions, the models project a warming of 2020 ZJ (~0.78 K). This level of warming would have major impacts on ocean ecosystems and sea level rise through thermal expansion; 0.78 K warming at 2100 is roughly equal to a sea level rise of 30 cm. This is in addition to increased sea level rise caused byland ice melt.

The fairly steady rise in OHC shows that the planet is clearly warming. The prospects for much higher OHC, sea level, and sea-surface temperatures should be of concern given the abundant evidence of effects on storms, hurricanes, and the hydrological cycle, including extreme precipitation events (3, 15). There is a clear need to continue to improve the ocean observation and analysis system to provide better estimates of OHC, because it will enable more refined regional projections of the future. In addition, the need to slow or stop the rates of climate change and prepare for the expected impacts is increasingly evident.

A few years back, here on LGF, I had commented in regards to answering some about climate change during the alleged (really made-up) “hiatus” that the net heat increase in the climate was likely going into the ocean… as many climatologists and oceanographers had expected. Subsequent data has proven their assertions.

The earth stores most of the surface heat in the ocean, only a tiny bit in the atmosphere. Indeed, were it not for the fact that the earth’s surface is mostly covered in water we’d be much colder than we are. Warmer than the moon which has no atmosphere, but not warm enough for life.

Ocean, and ice cap, dynamics are so slow compared to the news cycle that there is no real political traction for dealing with this issue.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 12, 2019 • 4:28:52am

re: #94 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

There are other options, usually involving bitcoin or European payment processors. You’d need to do some googling to find them, though.

You could ask the National Rifle Association how to run a Putinfundme.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 12, 2019 • 4:32:10am

re: #99 BlueSpotinAL

You could ask the National Rifle Association how to run a Putinfundme.

LOLOL

I was trying to set up a GoFundMe, but apparently, it’s not available in Czech Republic.

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freetoken  Jan 12, 2019 • 4:36:31am
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A Mom Anon  Jan 12, 2019 • 5:07:50am

So if our legal system is working properly, what is the next step to make sure the multiple perpetrators of espionage and treason and who knows what else are brought to justice? I understand due process and investigations take time, but every minute this isn’t stopped means more harm it could take years to repair, if that’s possible. It’s become so blatant now that they are daring someone to stop them. And it’s not going to stop until it is physically stopped somehow.

This is kinda where my hopelessness kicks in so I’ll spare you all that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 12, 2019 • 5:23:47am

re: #102 A Mom Anon

This is kinda where my hopelessness kicks in so I’ll spare you all that.

It has been blatant since day one, and the bigger it gets, the easier it seems for the GOP to ignore or discredit as a Deep State coup attempt

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jeffreyw  Jan 12, 2019 • 5:26:28am


Good morning!
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bd(it's all true)  Jan 12, 2019 • 6:10:53am

re: #27 Charles Johnson

Kind of shocked that this whole wall gofundme scam isn’t a bigger story yet:

Great thread, it’s about the email addresses, oh and, the folks that mailed in donations look like they are hosed.

Ripping off over 300,000 wingnuts or at least trying too, should be huge news?

Surely this will open the eyes of at least 1 or 2 of them?

Where are all of the stories of the poor, stupid, gullible wingnuts who sent in money they couldn’t afford to send in?

Thanks NBC for this story, have it lead your nightly news.

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MsJ  Jan 12, 2019 • 6:14:38am

re: #105 bd(Redacted)

GoFundMe allowed it to happen. They helped perpetuate an out and put fraud.

I hate that people need a site like GFM to start with but they really proved they are not a reliable site.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 12, 2019 • 6:16:55am

re: #106 MsJ

GoFundMe allowed it to happen. They helped perpetuate an out and put fraud.

I hate that people need a site like GFM to start with but they really proved they are not a reliable site.

The idea behind it is fine but it is absolutely too easy to grift on it. Especially when it comes to those who are too blindered to see that they are being taken for a ride

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bd(it's all true)  Jan 12, 2019 • 6:21:47am

re: #106 MsJ

GoFundMe allowed it to happen. They helped perpetuate an out and put fraud.

I hate that people need a site like GFM to start with but they really proved they are not a reliable site.

Yeah, GFM has been a great platform for in many respects but it is a conman’s dream too. It almost seems like a pity porn site? I have given there before and the spam they send of other recommendations of people I should give money too really disgusts me.

300,000 wingnuts, this has to piss some of them off and open their eyes? No one strikes me as a bunch of cheap bastards than those folks and them being played should piss some of them off? That is a large number of them! Hoping for them to connect the dots may be too much of a leap though…..sigh…..

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Sionainn, Fierce Mother  Jan 12, 2019 • 6:27:40am

Trump is back to his paranoid tweeting. Something must be about to happen.

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Teddy's Person  Jan 12, 2019 • 6:28:02am

re: #19 gocart mozart

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I’ve been up since the crack of oh my g-d it’s early and catching up on yesterday’s threads. I read the New Yorker article on Gabbard, and this is my take:

She seems like a very typical Republican in that her personal experience seems to be the driving force in what she cares about domestically. Her past homophobia is only discarded when she wants to run for office in a blue, blue state. Yes, she came up with a good story but color me cynical and suspicious. To me, the Clintons and Obama have a disappointing history in public statements and policies regarding LGBTQ rights and eventually got there. But they (to the best of my knowledge) never prompted an active anti-LGBTQ agenda like Gabbard and her family.

The other thing that stood out to me in the article is that Trey Gowdy is one of her besties in Congress. Let that sink in.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 12, 2019 • 6:28:20am

The updates link on the ripoff GFM page has a 20 minute interview with Cernovich explaining this all away (#19). And yes, they are still getting real or bot donations. Got to keep the bandwagon rolling.

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freetoken  Jan 12, 2019 • 6:33:09am

re: #109 Sionainn, Fierce Mother

Trump is back to his paranoid tweeting. Something must be about to happen.

Cohen is going to go before a House committee.

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bd(it's all true)  Jan 12, 2019 • 6:33:51am

re: #111 Decatur Deb

The updates link on the ripoff GFM page has a 20 minute interview with Cernovich explaining this all away (#19). And yes, they are still getting real or bot donations. Got to keep the bandwagon rolling.

FoxNews finally printed an article about it but left out a bunch of important information somehow?

foxnews.com

I am not feeling the schadenfreude on this quite yet, I’m kinda pissed off for them now butI am sure that will change.

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MsJ  Jan 12, 2019 • 6:34:49am

re: #107 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

GFM is supposed to stop fraud. It’s in their TOS.

That they allowed this to continue as it did is on them and the damage to their own brand is on them.

If it wasn’t a service that was needed I’d hope they folded.

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bd(it's all true)  Jan 12, 2019 • 6:34:53am

re: #109 Sionainn, Fierce Mother

Trump is back to his paranoid tweeting. Something must be about to happen.

The noose is tightening

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MsJ  Jan 12, 2019 • 6:36:36am

re: #108 bd(Redacted)

300,000 wingnuts, this has to piss some of them off and open their eyes? No one strikes me as a bunch of cheap bastards than those folks and them being played should piss some of them off? That is a large number of them! Hoping for them to connect the dots may be too much of a leap though…..sigh…..

Not gonna happen. These are true believers. And they are absolutely unpersuadable.

So. Fuck em.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 12, 2019 • 6:37:10am

re: #112 freetoken

Cohen is going to go before a House committee.

That NYT report about the FBI national security investigation might have him a tad worried.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 12, 2019 • 6:38:56am

re: #113 bd(Redacted)

FoxNews finally printed an article about it but left out a bunch of important information somehow?

foxnews.com

I am not feeling the schadenfreude on this quite yet, I’m kinda pissed off for them now butI am sure that will change.

Why do you hate charitable donations?

(That’s 20 million that won’t go to the RNC, so there’s that.)

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Teddy's Person  Jan 12, 2019 • 6:39:29am

re: #10 Joe Bacon ??

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Go ahead and open the door for President Elizabeth Warren to declare a National Emergency to expand Medicare for All!

Except, Criminal Mitch has repeatedly demonstrated he doesn’t care about precedent or actually doing his job as outlined by the Constitution. The Republican Senate will continue to support what every deranged thought stomps through the Orange Menace’s syphilitic, demented brain and obstruct the next Democratic President without batting an eye. Two and a half centuries of precedent are crumbling right in front of our eyes thanks to Mitch and the Republican’s insatiable quest for power. I want them all to die in prison.

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MsJ  Jan 12, 2019 • 6:39:37am

re: #109 Sionainn, Fierce Mother

Trump is back to his paranoid tweeting. Something must be about to happen.

It happened last night. Now we’re just waiting for the fallout.

I love how more and more unhinged he is. His tweets are constantly in the 3rd grade range with silly name calling.

I read an article the other day that those tweets have less and less impact because they’ve been unhinged for so long they’re no longer news.

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jimmyvluv4u  Jan 12, 2019 • 6:40:13am

re: #114 MsJ

Yes, GFM should never have let this get off the ground, but once it did they had a bit of a rock and a hard place situation. Summarily shutting it down would have unleashed the craziest wing of the RWNM on them.

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bd(it's all true)  Jan 12, 2019 • 6:40:47am

re: #118 Decatur Deb

Why do you hate charitable donations?

(That’s 20 million that won’t go to the RNC, so there’s that.)

LOL, I guess I am dreaming about someone ripping off the wingnut rubes and donating the money to Planned Parenthood.

:)

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MsJ  Jan 12, 2019 • 6:42:11am

re: #121 jimmyvluv4u

Yes, GFM should never have let this get off the ground, but once it did they had a bit of a rock and a hard place situation. Summarily shutting it down would have unleashed the craziest wing of the RWNM on them.

Which I call shirking they’re responsibility.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 12, 2019 • 6:43:01am

re: #122 bd(Redacted)

LOL, I guess I am dreaming about someone ripping off the wingnut rubes and donating the money to Planned Parenthood.

:)

Watched the video, for my sins. The big press in this phase of the bajour is to get the marks to recommit and turn down the refunds. A bunch of them will.

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MsJ  Jan 12, 2019 • 6:46:07am
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Teddy's Person  Jan 12, 2019 • 6:47:27am

re: #125 MsJ

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They really are mole people (h/t Charles Pierce).

Edit: I thing what you missed is “LOOK SQUIRREL!!1!!”

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freetoken  Jan 12, 2019 • 6:50:26am

re: #125 MsJ

I don’t know what consequence such things will have… other than reinforce that the Trump people are bad people.

But I can see that such an affair would subject both of them to the possibility of being blackmailed.

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MsJ  Jan 12, 2019 • 6:55:26am

re: #127 freetoken

I don’t know what consequence such things will have… other than reinforce that the Trump people are bad people.

But I can see that such an affair would subject both of them to the possibility of being blackmailed.

I’m starting to wonder if Hope Hicks is one of the FBI moles. She’s virtually disappeared from sight.

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jaunte  Jan 12, 2019 • 6:57:44am
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Sionainn, Fierce Mother  Jan 12, 2019 • 6:57:45am

I figured it out. Trump is terrified of being in prison with brown people.

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Teddy's Person  Jan 12, 2019 • 6:59:54am

re: #128 MsJ

I’m starting to wonder if Hope Hicks is one of the FBI moles. She’s virtually disappeared from sight.

Could be. Wasn’t she billed as the Trump whisperer? She always impressed me as the person who’s in a lot of rooms (because young attractive woman feeding Trump’s ego) but is someone no one pays any attention (because young attractive woman and misogyny). I would wager there is very little that happened during her tenure at the White House that she didn’t witness first hand or hear about directly from Trump.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:02:30am

i LOVE FB

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:03:30am

Morning!

First actual snow to hit Columbus is ongoing. There is a light coating out there right now and some flurries. I guess it is supposed to go on and off all day into the early morning. Some reports say up to 5 inches. We shall see.

Worst thing is temps just over freezing starting tomorrow and then of course freezing at night. Argh. That means ice and slop.

But hey! How about that failing New York Times article?

Had a good jam/song practice sessions last night. The new combination of my cousin Rick (guitar/keyboards) and his friend Joe (Bass/guitar) joining up with me and my longtime friend and guitarist Terry is starting to find a groove no the songs I have written.

So it was just after midnight before I got back to look what was going at LGF and also flipped on MSNBC with Joy Reid going over the times article. Wow! Just wow!

I still need to read the last thread through to get caught up.

By the way…I see Trump’s tweet calling out the “failing New York Times.” I’m not a huge fan of some of their reporting, but how long have they been failing Big Ass Donny?

I guess “failing” is much like Trump’s use of “emergency.” Bullshit.

It will be interesting to see how much further pressure the Times article puts on this whole shutdown/crisis mess.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:04:50am

re: #129 jaunte

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You’re proving exactly why Peter talked the way he did about you, you crooked treasonous fuck.

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MsJ  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:05:04am

re: #131 Teddy’s Person

Could be. Wasn’t she billed as the Trump whisperer? She always impressed me as the person who’s in a lot of rooms (because young attractive woman feeding Trump’s ego) but is someone no one pays any attention (because young attractive woman and misogyny). I would wager there is very little that happened during her tenure at the White House that she didn’t witness first hand or hear about directly from Trump.

She was in the plane as Trump, Junior, et al we crafting their response to one of the first mentions of what happened at the Trump tower meeting…adoptions, not adoptions.

She knows everything.

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jaunte  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:05:27am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:05:56am

re: #128 MsJ

I’m starting to wonder if Hope Hicks is one of the FBI moles. She’s virtually disappeared from sight.

I think it’s plausible absolutely.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:06:25am

re: #136 jaunte

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You go out of your way to coddle Putin & everyone knows it.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:07:00am

Tougher than any President? Haha yeah sure Donnie.

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jaunte  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:07:02am

re: #128 MsJ

I’m starting to wonder if Hope Hicks is one of the FBI moles. She’s virtually disappeared from sight.

That would be one of the very few ways to explain why she would have an affair with Corey Lewandowski.

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MsJ  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:08:31am

re: #140 jaunte

That would be one of the very few ways to explain why she would have an affair with Corey Lewandowski.

Oy. Hicks as a Honeypot.

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:10:15am

re: #135 MsJ

She was in the plane as Trump, Junior, et al we crafting their response to one of the first mentions of what happened at the Trump tower meeting…adoptions, not adoptions.

She knows everything.

She may not be an actual government plant, but for sure she is probably very usable.

She is young and I doubt she wants her entire life ruined. So yeah, I can see her being really usable because like you say, she was close to a lot of all that was going on.

By the way, I see Myron Fallwell has joined back in the LGF fray. Good to see you back Myron!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:10:21am

re: #141 MsJ

Oy. Hicks as a Honeypot.

I don’t think she’s that clever but as someone who is now spilling the beans to save herself? Absolutely. She’s still young and wants to be employable.

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jaunte  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:10:42am

re: #141 MsJ

Or most likely she just has extremely bad judgment.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:11:10am

re: #142 ObserverArt

She may not be an actual government plant, but for sure she is probably very usable.

She is young and I doubt she wants her entire life ruined. So yeah, I can see her being really usable because like you say, she was close to a lot of all that was going on.

By the way, I see Myron Fallwell has joined back in the LGF fray. Good to see you back Myron!

My thoughts exactly. And ditto on Myron. Good to see an old name again.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:11:46am

This morning’s news takes a bit of the sting out of Arsenal’s loss to West Ham.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:15:27am

re: #136 jaunte

Ask George Papadapolous how repeated self-incrimination on Twitter worked out for him.

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Teddy's Person  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:18:13am

re: #143 HappyWarrior

She’s still young and wants to be employable.

Or stay out of prison. She strikes me as a person Trumpco would set up to take the fall for a whole host of questionable to illegal activities that makeup the Trump administration. When she left, it might have been because she realized that the loyalty-impaired Trumps would eventually throw her under the bus.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:20:06am

re: #148 Teddy’s Person

Or stay out of prison. She strikes me as a person Trumpco would set up to take the fall for a whole host of questionable to illegal activities that makeup the Trump administration. When she left, it might have been because she realized that the loyalty-impaired Trumps would eventually throw her under the bus.

Yeah I think that’s plausible too.

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Belafon  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:20:57am

re: #106 MsJ

GoFundMe allowed it to happen. They helped perpetuate an out and put fraud.

I hate that people need a site like GFM to start with but they really proved they are not a reliable site.

Every single system you can set up will be abused by evil people. Unless you want to shut every single thing humans do to try to help each other, this will happen. Now you can either be angry at the organization or you can be angry at the evil people who do these things. I prefer the evil people. You really don’t want to go down the route of blaming people trying to do good.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:23:54am

re: #148 Teddy’s Person

Or stay out of prison. She also strikes me as a person Trumpco would set up to take the fall for a whole host of questionable to illegal activities that makeup the Trump administration. When she left, it might have been because she realized that the loyalty-impaired Trumps would eventually throw her under the bus.

So much shit has happened, I can’t even remember why I’m mad at Hope. I vaguely remember her defending someone but can’t remember the details. (I’m getting old and it happened…check notes… not that long ago). We are living life in the fast lane… I’m offline for awhile to do some Sat morning writing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:24:11am

re: #132 I Would Prefer Not To

i LOVE FB

that is even better.

and besides, roombas have natural predators in the form of self-driving lawn mowers

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MsJ  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:26:54am

re: #150 Belafon

Every single system you can set up will be abused by evil people. Unless you want to shut every single thing humans do to try to help each other, this will happen. Now you can either be angry at the organization or you can be angry at the evil people who do these things. I prefer the evil people. You really don’t want to go down the route of blaming people trying to do good.

Usually is agree with you. But not with a company that is supposed to actively be anti-fraud.

I don’t actually give the first fuck about rubes taken for their money over this wall business. It’s less money they can use to inflict damage in other places. My beef is that this was an illegal supposed benefit which should have been shut down immediately. There was no way this money could have gone to The Government. It damages their brand whick damages people who actually need help. And I absolutely hate GFM for that.

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Teddy's Person  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:29:00am

re: #151 I Would Prefer Not To

So much shit has happened, I can’t even remember why I’m mad at Hope. I vaguely remember her defending someone but can’t remember the details. (I’m getting old and it happened…check notes… not that long ago). We are living life in the fast lane… I’m offline for awhile to do some Sat morning writing.

Hicks wasn’t a very public figure in Trumpco land. When she made the news, it was for acting like Trump’s valet instead of the Communications Director. My google-fu tells me she’s now an executive at FOX.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:30:12am

All I remember about Hope Hicks are all the times she couldn’t be reached for comment on something. She wasn’t prepared to be a communications director, didn’t Trump pick her because she simply worked for his company (his fascination with young girls notwithstanding)?

Being that young and seeing all sorts of bad-to-illegal shit go down around you, it is very possible that she felt used, abused and willing to tell all at the first chance she had as soon as she fled TrumpWorld.

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plansbandc  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:31:57am

re: #146 Barefoot Grin

That was a terrible performance. Team’s really going downhill. And no transfer window money. SMDH

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lawhawk  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:35:07am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Trump (or whoever’s spewing his tweets this AM) is going on epic rant about Russia, FBI, Clinton, and angry Democrats that’s about as unhinged and fact-free as ever.

I can’t quite put my finger on why they’re at this.

Is it because McConnell shut down the Senate over the weekend and therefore the longest GOP/Trump shutdown continues with no end in sight?

Is it because Trump took credit for the shutdown and a majority of people polled blame him explicitly for the shutdown?

Is it because there’s no crisis at the border and that he’s manufactured this nonsense and there’s no support for it, even among the GOPers in Congress.

Is it because a clean CR would pass Congress and have potential votes available for a veto override that would embarrass Trump (and that’s why McConnell ducked out of town?)?

Is it because news stories keep dropping about how Trump is up to his eyeballs in Russia chicanery and the ties are becoming more defined and evidence is piling up that he and those involved in his campaign conspired with foreign agents to manipulate outcome of election?

All of it.

It’s because of all of it. Trump’s walls are closing in - and will soon be the bars he so craves. It can’t come soon enough frankly for all the damage he’s done to the nation, its political institutions, and the Office of the President. Oh, and the GOP must be swept from power for conspiring with Trump and aiding/abetting/condoning Trump’s criminality by refusing to be a check and balance on Trumpworld malfeasance.

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MsJ  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:35:18am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:35:58am

re: #158 MsJ

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Deserved it when it happened but especially now.

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MsJ  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:38:20am

Hmmm…

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lawhawk  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:40:15am

Gabbard’s running?

Yeah, we’re taking a look at horseshoe theory in action.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:42:08am

re: #160 MsJ

Hmmm…

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You’re not fooling anyone. You’re only talking now because he could sink your own re-election.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:42:56am

re: #160 MsJ

Joni Ernst:

I condemn Rep. Steve King’s comments on white supremacy; they are offensive and racist - and not representative of our state of Iowa. We are a great nation and this divisiveness is hurting everyone. We cannot continue down this path if we want to continue to be a great nation.

Then stop voting for bigoted, racist-fueled and inhumane legislation and policies

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makeitstop  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:43:30am

re: #144 jaunte

Or most likely she just has extremely bad judgment.

If she was shtupping Lewandowski, her bad judgement is indisputable.

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MsJ  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:43:37am
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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:46:01am

re: #164 makeitstop

If she was shtupping Lewandowski, her bad judgement is indisputable.

Maybe she was just fucking up!

if you know what I mean.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:48:03am

Of the Wall/GFM reports out there, the NBC story is the most comprehensive and detailed:

nbcnews.com

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Myron Falwell  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:52:02am

re: #160 MsJ

Hmmm…

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Then demand his resignation, or that the House leadership impeach and remove him, otherwise it’s just meaningless words, Joni.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:52:46am

I’m going to have a four tier system of candidates: Those I really like, those I like but want to learn more, those I don’t really dislike but think could be better, and those I don’t want at all
Tier one: Beto, Harris, Booker, Biden, Klobuchar
Tier two: Brown, Garcetti, Gillibrand, Inslee, Castro,
Tier three: McAuliffe, Warren, Delaney
Tier four: Bernie, Tulsi, Bloomberg,

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Belafon  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:53:42am

I was reading a DK diary about AOC’s “New party, who dis?” jab at Lieberman, and I realized something else: She’s also the face of all those new women in Congress, all those women who Republicans - and quite a few Democrats I’m sure (and I’m not counting Lieberman in that group) would love to make sure they quietly sit there and wait their turn.

Here’s the thing, with Trump in the White House, there’s no sitting and waiting their turn. They were voted in to counter him and to deal with things like unequal treatment dealt to the poor, women, minorities, and non-Christian religions.

So, once again, she really can’t just back down. I don’t think she volunteered for this job, but various groups chose her because of her being a Democratic Socialist. But they obviously chose the wrong person. Next time, I would recommend not choosing a bartender.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:54:14am

re: #161 lawhawk

Gabbard’s running?

Yeah, we’re taking a look at horseshoe theory in action.

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It’s so weird how lefties think she’s this huge dove because she was critical of Obama’s Syria policy. She’s not. It actually kind of reminds me of people who liked Bob Graham in 2004 thinking that he was a huge dove on Iraq when he wasn’t.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:56:37am

re: #170 Belafon

I was reading a DK diary about AOC’s “New party, who dis?” jab at Lieberman, and I realized something else: She’s also the face of all those new women in Congress, all those women who Republicans - and quite a few Democrats I’m sure (and I’m not counting Lieberman in that group) would love to make sure they quietly sit there and wait their turn.

Here’s the thing, with Trump in the White House, there’s no sitting and waiting their turn. They were voted in to counter him and to deal with things like unequal treatment dealt to the poor, women, minorities, and non-Christian religions.

So, once again, she really can’t just back down. I don’t think she volunteered for this job, but various groups chose her because of her being a Democratic Socialist. But they obviously chose the wrong person. Next time, I would recommend not choosing a bartender.

I mean it is a little annoying how she’s overshadowed a lot of the other Freshmen women but that’s on the media not her IMO. My freshman Congresswoman hasn’t talked much about ACO. Our two districts couldn’t be more different but I’m sure Jen Wexton and ACO will find common ground on many an issue that tehy find important.

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lawhawk  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:58:16am

re: #169 HappyWarrior

I’m going to have a four tier system of candidates: Those I really like, those I like but want to learn more, those I don’t really dislike but think could be better, and those I don’t want at all
Tier one: Beto, Harris, Booker, Biden, Klobuchar
Tier two: Brown, Garcetti, Gillibrand, Inslee, Castro,
Tier three: McAuliffe, Warren, Delaney
Tier four: Bernie, Tulsi, Bloomberg,

Applying your tier structure, I’d reorganize (and yeah, it’s my preferences) thusly:

Tier One: Harris, Booker, Warren, Gillibrand (no order ranking yet)
Tier Two: Beto, Brown, Garcetti, Inslee, Castro
Tier Three: McAuliffe, Delaney
Tier Four: Bloomberg, Biden
Tier Five (don’t just go away.. go home): Bernie, Tulsi.

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jaunte  Jan 12, 2019 • 7:59:31am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:03:53am

re: #173 lawhawk

Applying your tier structure, I’d reorganize (and yeah, it’s my preferences) thusly:

Tier One: Harris, Booker, Warren, Gillibrand (no order ranking yet)
Tier Two: Beto, Brown, Garcetti, Inslee, Castro
Tier Three: McAuliffe, Delaney
Tier Four: Bloomberg, Biden
Tier Five (don’t just go away.. go home): Bernie, Tulsi.

I dig that. I have Beto high because I’ve been reading up on his work in the past on the war on Drugs and Border. I also like your tier 5.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:05:33am

re: #170 Belafon

I was reading a DK diary about AOC’s “New party, who dis?” jab at Lieberman, and I realized something else: She’s also the face of all those new women in Congress, all those women who Republicans - and quite a few Democrats I’m sure (and I’m not counting Lieberman in that group) would love to make sure they quietly sit there and wait their turn.

AOC is just a red flag for a lot of guys like Lieberman; female, Latina, urban, educated, sassy, brash and outspoken. They cannot help but lash out against her every time she squeezes the Charmin.

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lawhawk  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:06:36am

re: #175 HappyWarrior

Way I see it is that anyone in the top 2 tiers could be president with anyone else in the top 3 tiers as VP and I’d probably be okay with it.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:07:05am

re: #176 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

AOC is just a red flag for a lot of guys like Lieberman; female, Latina, urban, educated, sassy, brash and outspoken. They cannot help but lash out against her every time she squeezes the Charmin.

Lieberman was threatened by Obama too. I have no idea why Brian felt so eager to go to bat for a guy who hasn’t supported a Democratic presidential candidate since John Kerry, when AOC and myself were unable to vote due to our ages.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:10:10am

re: #177 lawhawk

Way I see it is that anyone in the top 2 tiers could be president with anyone else in the top 3 tiers as VP and I’d probably be okay with it.

Absolutely. I’d like to see more of Inslee. I’m impressed by the resume but I need to get to know the man better. But on paper there’s a lot I like, Governor, former Congressman, seems quite intelligent and well versed on the issues but I want to see more of his style. Maybe one of these days I should ask my friend whom I grew up with who now lives in Washington state what her verdict on him is but we don’t talk politics much even though I know we agree more than we don’t.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:10:54am

re: #157 lawhawk

I don’t think it’s being mentioned enough just how much McConnell totally played himself here. Unlike Trump, he has only one way out… allowing a veto-proof CR vote… and it will humiliate him and destroy his Machiavellian fa?ade of being this calculating tactician.

When lackeys like Lindsey and Rubio are now pleading for Trump to go the “emergency” declaration route, it’s McConnell they want to save. Not Trump. They can’t afford to have him back down, because when he does, it’s an admission of guilt that McConnell was to blame for the whole thing. It’s a con in and of itself, just like this racist wall being the last lingering element of the Great Trump Con that’s inevitably going to come crashing down.

Only problem is, Pelosi IS the brilliant tactician McConnell has always claimed to be, and she’s now emboldened Sen. Schumer. And the polls are showing that the GOP’s ridiculous stonewalling is starting to undo all the demonizing they’ve unleashed on her since the early 2000s.

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MsJ  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:17:13am

re: #172 HappyWarrior

I mean it is a little annoying how she’s overshadowed a lot of the other Freshmen women but that’s on the media not her IMO. My freshman Congresswoman hasn’t talked much about ACO. Our two districts couldn’t be more different but I’m sure Jen Wexton and ACO will find common ground on many an issue that tehy find important.

She beat out the guy who was going to be the house whip. That’s a big fucking deal.

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MsJ  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:18:32am

re: #169 HappyWarrior

re: #173 lawhawk

Do you guys dislike Klobachar? (Sic)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:20:17am

re: #181 MsJ

She beat out the guy who was going to be the house whip. That’s a big fucking deal.

Absolutely it is.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:21:18am

re: #181 MsJ

She beat out the guy who was going to be the house whip. That’s a big fucking deal.

So in addition to the usual misogyny and bigotry there is a palpable sense of fear.

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William Lewis  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:21:35am

re: #173 lawhawk

Applying your tier structure, I’d reorganize (and yeah, it’s my preferences) thusly:

Tier One: Harris, Booker, Warren, Gillibrand (no order ranking yet)
Tier Two: Beto, Brown, Garcetti, Inslee, Castro
Tier Three: McAuliffe, Delaney
Tier Four: Bloomberg, Biden
Tier Five (don’t just go away.. go home): Bernie, Tulsi.

I like this idea. I’d simply move Beto to Tier one & add to Tier Two: Tammy Baldwin, Tammy Duckworth. And both Bloomberg & Biden to 5. I like Biden but his time has long past.

Right now my gut favorite combo is Beto for Prez and (out & proud) Baldwin for VP.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:22:07am

re: #182 MsJ

Do you guys dislike Klobachar? (Sic)

I like her but I wanted to know and see more. She’s in Tier 2 for me. But that said, I know her resume and like it and I was impressed with her handling of Barf Kavanaugh during the hearings. She reminds me of my mom a little and I mean that as a compliment because my mom like Senator Klobuchar is of Slovene ancestry, hard-working, and not flashy but gets the job done. They’re around the same age too though Amy is a year or two younger.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:22:53am

re: #100 Dr Lizardo

LOLOL

I was trying to set up a GoFundMe, but apparently, it’s not available in Czech Republic.

So you’re saying they don’t accept Czechs?

…I’ll see myself out now.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:23:12am

re: #185 William Lewis

I like this idea. I’d simply move Beto to Tier one & add to Tier Two: Tammy Baldwin, Tammy Duckworth. And both Bloomberg & Biden to 5. I like Biden but his time has long past.

Right now my gut favorite combo is Beto for Prez and (out & proud) Baldwin for VP.

I still really like Biden. I think I may move him to where I have Terry Mac and Delaney. Someone I don’t really dislike but don’t really want either.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:23:32am

re: #187 Eclectic Cyborg

So you’re saying they don’t accept Czechs?

…I’ll see myself out now.

Oh Slovak the hell down there :).

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TedStriker  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:23:52am

re: #187 Eclectic Cyborg

So you’re saying they don’t accept Czechs?

…I’ll see myself out now.

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William Lewis  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:24:10am

re: #187 Eclectic Cyborg

So you’re saying they don’t accept Czechs?

…I’ll see myself out now.

So does that mean that Kafka is really the richest writer in the world since he wrote the Czech book?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:24:50am

re: #191 William Lewis

So does that mean that Kafka is really the richest writer in the world since he wrote the Czech book?

Well if this is German(e) to you, he actually wrote in German :).

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William Lewis  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:25:36am

re: #188 HappyWarrior

I still really like Biden. I think I may move him to where I have Terry Mac and Delaney. Someone I don’t really dislike but don’t really want either.

I get that vibe on Biden even though I like him, I feel like he could screw up someone better despite his own good intentions. Such are the road to hell paved with often enough as it is…

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:25:49am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:25:59am

re: #187 Eclectic Cyborg

So you’re saying they don’t accept Czechs?

…I’ll see myself out now.

make sure you leave at a Slovak

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:26:30am

re: #193 William Lewis

I get that vibe on Biden even though I like him, I feel like he could screw up someone better despite his own good intentions. Such are the road to hell paved with often enough as it is…

Right. TBH, Biden and Obama for that matter are people I want our next President to talk to extensively for advice.

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William Lewis  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:27:23am

re: #192 HappyWarrior

Well if this is German(e) to you, he actually wrote in German :).

I actually had forgotten that. The pain of reading in translation. Plus I read both him and Rilke in high school (37+ years ago!)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:29:30am

re: #197 William Lewis

I actually had forgotten that. The pain of reading in translation. Plus I read both him and Rilke in high school (37+ years ago!)

I couldn’t resist because the pun was just perfect. Definitely wasn’t trying to school ya. I read him too both senior year and in one of my literature courses. Really didn’t do it for me honestly since it’s so unconventional but the opening of The Metamorphosis is brilliant of course. Same thing with The Trial. The guy knew how to hook in readers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:29:44am

re: #192 HappyWarrior

Well if this is German(e) to you, he actually wrote in German :).

This point came up several times; had Kafka written in Czech he might have remained obscure, but writing in German helped make him known to a much broader public and eventually become a major figure in the Western Literary Canon.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:31:24am

re: #199 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This point came up several times; had Kafka written in Czech he might have remained obscure, but writing in German helped make him known to a much broader public and eventually become a major figure in the Western Literary Canon.

German after all was the language of the empire. And definitely more German to English translators than Czech to English ones too. There’s another Czech writer from that era I want to read. I forget his name offhand but he apparently wrote some funny WWI stories.

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Teddy's Person  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:32:05am

re: #186 HappyWarrior

… hard-working, and not flashy but gets the job done.

This is what we need from the Democrats at all levels. People willing to roll up their sleeves and clean up the fucking mess that Trumpco leaves behind when they are all frog-marched to prison.

Right now, my pick for the top slot is Beto (full disclosure: I have a huge Obama-sized crush on the man), and my pick for number two is Tammy Duckworth. I say “right now” because I got burned by John Edwards and his working-class populism.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:33:23am

eonline.com
Poor Steve Buscemi. Lost his wife of over 30 years at the age of 65. He always has seemed to me to be one of the better guys in the film industry. I have a friend who has met him and said he was very down to earth and professional. He’s also a 9/11 hero.

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Jay C  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:34:36am

re: #180 Myron Falwell

I don’t think it’s being mentioned enough just how much McConnell totally played himself here. Unlike Trump, he has only one way out… allowing a veto-proof CR vote… and it will humiliate him and destroy his Machiavellian fa?ade of being this calculating tactician.

When lackeys like Lindsey and Rubio are now pleading for Trump to go the “emergency” declaration route, it’s McConnell they want to save. Not Trump. They can’t afford to have him back down, because when he does, it’s an admission of guilt that McConnell was to blame for the whole thing. It’s a con in and of itself, just like this racist wall being the last lingering element of the Great Trump Con that’s inevitably going to come crashing down.

Only problem is, Pelosi IS the brilliant tactician McConnell has always claimed to be, and she’s now emboldened Sen. Schumer. And the polls are showing that the GOP’s ridiculous stonewalling is starting to undo all the demonizing they’ve unleashed on her since the early 2000s.

Two comments:
1. Agree about McConnell: for a guy who’s supposed to be this iron-fisted Senate Leader, he’s backed himself into an unpleasant corner over the “Wall/Trump Shutdown”: I would have thought that he would have, by now, come up with some sort of face-saving compromise (one agreed to between Republicans and Democrats in both Houses)
that would get the government re-opened, and still leave The Orange Anus with some sort of Wall bullshit or other that would let him declare “victory”, and everyone can all move on to the next crisis.
But as it happened, McConnell, who was expecting the main problem to come from the Democrats, got sandbagged by “his own” WH instead. [Womp Womp…]
2. It should be noted that that years-long GOP “demonization” of Nancy Pelosi has been usually based mainly on ideological grounds (“loony-left San Francisco liberal”, etc.) ignoring her considerable political skills - honed even sharper by years in the Minority. Sort of the converse of their regard of former Speaker Paul Ryan: hailed (by GOPers) as some sort of genius/visionary because he pushed for all the right pro-oligarchal policies, but as a political leader in the House, all but useless.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:35:12am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:35:24am

So our crazy orange asshole of a President has now stuck us with the longest Federal Government shutdown in American history.

Remember, this was TOTALLY avoidable. There was a clean CR ready to go, but President shitweasel wouldn’t sign it because he decided throw a tantrum over his fucking wall.

Also of note: Republicans have been responsible for the three longest shutdowns of the past 25 years.

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jaunte  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:35:32am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:35:33am

re: #201 Teddy’s Person

This is what we need from the Democrats at all levels. People willing to roll up their sleeves and clean up the fucking mess that Trumpco leaves behind when they are all frog-marched to prison.

Right now, my pick for the top slot is Beto (full disclosure: I have a huge Obama-sized crush on the man), and my pick for number two is Tammy Duckworth. I say “right now” because I got burned by John Edwards and his working-class populism.

I really like Beto too because I love his approach and he honestly and maybe it’s that he’s a guy of Irish descent named Robert Francis but he also has the similar goofy but lovable smile of RFK who was before my time but my favorite Kennedy brother. He’s also done a lot of policy stuff on issues important to me i.e. immigration and the drug war. He’s also a pretty positive guy. I like Tammy Duckworth too. I don’t think she will be running but I think she should be considered for VP if she wants it.

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William Lewis  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:36:30am

re: #200 HappyWarrior

German after all was the language of the empire. And definitely more German to English translators than Czech to English ones too. There’s another Czech writer from that era I want to read. I forget his name offhand but he apparently wrote some funny WWI stories.

Jaroslav Ha?ek & I expect that you’re thinking of “The Good Soldier ?vejk” which I’ve seen small excerpts from. Very good stuff.

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MsJ  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:36:32am

Hey, would someone on a computer go to the memes page and create one for me using that pic of I think Jon Lovitz saying…

I’m not saying it was treason.

But it was treason.

And then post it here so I can tweet it.

I’m on my phone. Thanks in advance to anyone who has the time!!

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ericblair  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:37:31am

re: #174 jaunte

Just a reminder that on July 4th, our Independence Day, these Senators took a surprise trip to Russia. As we watch them all acquiesce to Trump now, it just seems to me that this meeting is worth remembering.

It’s very much worth remembering, since it must have been deliberately scheduled by Putin on the 4th of July to rub the US Senators’ noses in it. And yet they came, why the fuck did they do that?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:37:58am

re: #208 William Lewis

Jaroslav Ha?ek & I expect that you’re thinking of “The Good Soldier ?vejk” which I’ve seen small excerpts from. Very good stuff.

Yes! I’m trying to do a WWI read-a-thon and I want to incorporate contemporary material into it. I have Farewell to All That by Robert Graves on my list too. And of course Farewell to Arms and Remarque’s Three Comrades.

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Teddy's Person  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:39:01am

re: #207 HappyWarrior

I really like Beto too because I love his approach and he honestly and maybe it’s that he’s a guy of Irish descent named Robert Francis but he also has the similar goofy but lovable smile of RFK who was before my time but my favorite Kennedy brother. He’s also done a lot of policy stuff on issues important to me i.e. immigration and the drug war. He’s also a pretty positive guy. I like Tammy Duckworth too. I don’t think she will be running but I think she should be considered for VP if she wants it.

Just to clarify, I’d like to see a Beto/Duckworth ticket.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:39:37am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:39:42am

re: #212 Teddy’s Person

Just to clarify, I’d like to see a Beto/Duckworth ticket.

I think that would be a fine ticket.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:39:54am

re: #105 bd(Redacted)

A look into the freeper swamp ands theyreredirecting their money to the new LLC. Others there are excited that part of the wall will be privately funded some it’s not owned by the gov.

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MsJ  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:40:16am

re: #203 Jay C

Two comments:
1. ….
2. It should be noted that that years-long GOP “demonization” of Nancy Pelosi has been usually based mainly on ideological grounds (“loony-left San Francisco liberal”, etc.) ignoring her considerable political skills - honed even sharper by years in the Minority. Sort of the converse of their regard of former Speaker Paul Ryan: hailed (by GOPers) as some sort of genius/visionary because he pushed for all the right pro-oligarchal policies, but as a political leader in the House, all but useless.

The demonization of Pelosi is precisely because of her skills. She’s far better than any of them and they all know it.

And AOC uses Twitter extremely effectively which is exactly what we need in this era of governance by social media.

Plus the added bonus of both being women.

Republicans hate all three.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:40:37am

re: #200 HappyWarrior

German after all was the language of the empire. And definitely more German to English translators than Czech to English ones too. There’s another Czech writer from that era I want to read. I forget his name offhand but he apparently wrote some funny WWI stories.

Hasek? The Good Soldier Schweik is a classic

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:40:37am

re: #210 ericblair

It’s very much worth remembering, since it must have been deliberately scheduled by Putin on the 4th of July to rub the US Senators’ noses in it. And yet they came, why the fuck did they do that?

Most likely because Putin threaten to ruin their careers if they didn’t.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:40:59am

re: #213 Ace-o-aces

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TedStriker  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:41:25am

re: #209 MsJ

Hey, would someone on a computer go to the memes page and create one for me using that pic of I think Jon Lovitz saying…

I’m not saying it was treason.

But it was treason.

And then post it here so I can tweet it.

I’m on my phone. Thanks in advance to anyone who has the time!!

It’s not Jon Lovitz, it’s Giorgio A. Tsoukalos from Ancient Aliens.

Anywho:

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Teddy's Person  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:41:50am

re: #209 MsJ

Do you mean this?

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:42:01am

Hello from wet NoHo.

We saw through this scheme before it was a see through wall, and now we see anyone can saw right through.

Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through

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TedStriker  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:42:19am

re: #221 Teddy’s Person

Do you mean this?

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Jinx!

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Teddy's Person  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:42:23am

re: #221 Teddy’s Person

Do you mean this?

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Arghhhhh…25 seconds too late.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:42:27am

re: #219 HappyWarrior

I want him to donate to my charity
Raising
Investments
Properly
Online
For
Friends.

Mine too:

Society of

Children

Aspiring for

More

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:42:34am

re: #217 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Hasek? The Good Soldier Schweik is a classic

Yep, that’s the guy. I looked for it on the Kindle to no avail. I’ll just order a hardcopy. I’m still finishing Guns of August and then I’m on to Birdsong by Faulks, recommended to me by a Belgian WWI tour guide I met in Ypres a couple years ago.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:42:57am

re: #224 Teddy’s Person

Arghhhhh…25 seconds too late.

One and one makes for two updings.

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Charmingly Persistent  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:43:08am

re: #201 Teddy’s Person

I say “right now” because I got burned by John Edwards and his working-class populism.

Sooo much this. I used to think campaigns were way too long, but now I am glad for the level of vetting our candidates get. Right now my view is “let a thousand flowers bloom.” Anyone who wants to run, show us what you’ve got.

I do look askance at old white guys right now. Not that I would never vote for one (I would vote even for Bernie if he were running against Trump). But the excitement and energy unleashed by the younger, less white, more female midterms is such a force of nature, I’d hate to see it squashed by playing it safe with someone like Biden.

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William Lewis  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:43:27am

re: #211 HappyWarrior

Yes! I’m trying to do a WWI read-a-thon and I want to incorporate contemporary material into it. I have Farewell to All That by Robert Graves on my list too. And of course Farewell to Arms and Remarque’s Three Comrades.

Ah. Then be sure to reread Wilfred Owens and Siegfried Sassoon in the light of the literature. And “Farewell” remains the only thing that must be read by him. The rest of his output is just the same story, with different names. But Farewell gave us this:

“If people bring so much courage to this world the world has to kill them to break them, so of course it kills them. The world breaks every one and afterward many are strong at the broken places. But those that will not break it kills. It kills the very good and the very gentle and the very brave impartially. If you are none of these you can be sure it will kill you too but there will be no special hurry.”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:43:30am

re: #220 TedStriker

It’s not Jon Lovitz, it’s Giorgio A. Tsoukalos from Ancient Aliens.

Anywho:

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Looking at him, he looks like what would happen if Lovitz and Rob McElhenney (Mac from It’s Always Sunny) had a baby.

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MsJ  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:44:07am

re: #220 TedStriker

Bless you, my child! Thank you!

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MsJ  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:44:43am

re: #221 Teddy’s Person

Do you mean this?

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Thank you so much!!!

I love you guys!!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:45:05am

re: #225 Eclectic Cyborg

Mine too:

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Aspiring for

More

Or
Generations
Raising
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Talent

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:47:24am

re: #229 William Lewis

Ah. Then be sure to reread Wilfred Owens and Siegfried Sassoon in the light of the literature. And “Farewell” remains the only thing that must be read by him. The rest of his output is just the same story, with different names. But Farewell gave us this:

Yep, I picked up a collection of the poems in a bookstore in Ypres. I keep it alongside my pocket sized Constitution I got from the ACLU, my wit and wisdom of Lincoln, Instructions for British Servicemen in Germany 1944, my Art of War, and my Irish Quotations and of course in close proxmity to my bartender’s bible.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:49:00am

re: #226 HappyWarrior

Yep, that’s the guy. I looked for it on the Kindle to no avail. I’ll just order a hardcopy. I’m still finishing Guns of August and then I’m on to Birdsong by Faulks, recommended to me by a Belgian WWI tour guide I met in Ypres a couple years ago.

I got through most of Birdsong but then my Kindle died. I was lucky to find a second-edition German version of Im Westen nichts neues (All Quiet on the Western Front). Also bought the movie, which is one of the rare examples of when I watch a film with the German soundtrack rather than the original.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:49:05am

re: #228 Charmingly Persistent

Sooo much this. I used to think campaigns were way too long, but now I am glad for the level of vetting our candidates get. Right now my view is “let a thousand flowers bloom.” Anyone who wants to run, show us what you’ve got.

I do look askance at old white guys right now. Not that I would never vote for one (I would vote even for Bernie if he were running against Trump). But the excitement and energy unleashed by the younger, less white, more female midterms is such a force of nature, I’d hate to see it squashed by playing it safe with someone like Biden.

I really think it’s key that we have new perspectives which is why I’m so excited to see such a diverse field developing not just in race and ethnicity but gender and age too. Multiple women and women of color at that running will be the new norm and that’s great.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:50:04am

re: #236 HappyWarrior

I really think it’s key that we have new perspectives which is why I’m so excited to see such a diverse field developing not just in race and ethnicity but gender and age too. Multiple women and women of color at that running will be the new norm and that’s great.

and GOP headsplosions will also become the new standard

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:50:10am

Whoa!

I is getting confused here.

MsJ Happy has Amy Klobuchar in his first line of favorites. See #169

Happy…you have Amy Klobuchar in your first line of favorites!!! See #169

You all got my head a spinning…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:50:26am

re: #235 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I got through most of Birdsong but then my Kindle died. I was lucky to find a second-edition German version of Im Westen nichts neues (All Quiet on the Western Front). Also bought the movie, which is one of the rare examples of when I watch a film with the German soundtrack rather than the original.

I have an edition of All Quiet that I got many years ago when I read it between Freshman and Sophomore year of high school. Still one of my favorite novels because of how Remarque gets you to forget nationality.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:51:37am

re: #238 ObserverArt

Whoa!

I is getting confused here.

MsJ Happy has Amy Klobuchar in his first line of favorites. See #169

Happy…you have Amy Klobuchar in your first line of favorites!!! See #169

You all got my head a spinning…

Hahaha I guess I hadn’t had my covefe but yeah Amy and your own Brown look good but I want to see more. Brown is someone I really like since he’s able to be populist without being dismissive of racial concerns.

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William Lewis  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:53:46am

re: #235 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I got through most of Birdsong but then my Kindle died. I was lucky to find a second-edition German version of Im Westen nichts neues (All Quiet on the Western Front). Also bought the movie, which is one of the rare examples of when I watch a film with the German soundtrack rather than the original.

That damn butterfly…

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:53:47am
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Charmingly Persistent  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:54:52am

I have a question someone here might know the answer to. I will be flying soon and I am wondering if I can give the TSA agents something small to thank them for working without pay. Maybe a Starbucks card? I don’t want to be guilty of bribery or anything!

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ericblair  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:55:07am

re: #218 Eclectic Cyborg

Most likely because Putin threaten to ruin their careers if they didn’t.

Right, and the job now is to find out exactly how Putin could do that. In the security clearance process, one of the most important things they want to know about you is if you’re blackmailable.

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Teddy's Person  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:55:47am

re: #228 Charmingly Persistent

Sooo much this. I used to think campaigns were way too long, but now I am glad for the level of vetting our candidates get. Right now my view is “let a thousand flowers bloom.” Anyone who wants to run, show us what you’ve got.

I do look askance at old white guys right now. Not that I would never vote for one (I would vote even for Bernie if he were running against Trump). But the excitement and energy unleashed by the younger, less white, more female midterms is such a force of nature, I’d hate to see it squashed by playing it safe with someone like Biden.

It is time for some of the older Dems who are flirting with the presidential nomination to step aside and assume the role of elder statespeople or just stay in Congress. I think Elizabeth Warren is more effective as a Senator. Even though she’s not my Senator, she does good for everyone. Kind of like when famous people (like Oprah) get bandied about in the press. I think those people can do more good as private citizens.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:56:12am

re: #187 Eclectic Cyborg

So you’re saying they don’t accept Czechs?

…I’ll see myself out now.

Ba-dum-tshhh!!

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Charmingly Persistent  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:56:23am

re: #238 ObserverArt

Whoa!

I is getting confused here.

MsJ Happy has Amy Klobuchar in his first line of favorites. See #169

Happy…you have Amy Klobuchar in your first line of favorites!!! See #169

You all got my head a spinning…

She was great in the Kavanaugh hearings. So was Kamala.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 12, 2019 • 8:57:13am

re: #73 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The world split off into different timelines a few years ago and we drew the short straw.

I have a theory that we are in the midst of a time-travel war, in which factions from the future are disrupting events on our timeline. This is based only on the feeling of reality having jumped off the rails in 2016, and the normal course of events leaping around like a scared squirrel at random.

Mabye in the future, an immortal Cyborg Hillary Clinton reigned over a “progressive globalist” world, and a “resistance” faction of Republicans hiding out in Russia sent someone back to set up an election-throwing effort with Putin to make sure Clinton never happened. And it’s been move-countermove on our timeline ever since.

//come on, it’s at least as likely as anything else

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:01:57am

re: #236 HappyWarrior

Maybe the most contentious gradient? Experience and age (with career baggage) vs so young with an utterly fresh approach. Uncle Joe V Beto or OCA.

It takes time to build in or become influential in the DC power networks that outlive every admin.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:04:54am

re: #249 Unshaken Defiance

Maybe the most contentious gradient? Experience and age (with career baggage) vs so young with an utterly fresh approach. Uncle Joe V Beto or OCA.

It takes time to build in or become influential in the DC power networks that outlive every admin.

Right, I like a little of both which is why I want to learn more about Klobuchar. She’s not really young and an upstart like Obama is but she’s not someone who has been around Washington forever too. What I want is someone who will be a strong defender of our values not just as Democrats but as Americans and someone who will lead on key issues and someone who will surround themselves with not only smart but decent people too.

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Teddy's Person  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:06:46am

This has probable already been seen around these parts but holy shit. This is a picture of the table during a cabinet meeting Trump held the beginning of the month.

His neediness knows no bounds.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:07:43am

re: #250 HappyWarrior

Aaaand the other side shows desperation
news.avclub.com
Dwayne Johnson hopped on Instagram this afternoon to address his fans, letting them know that a recent interview he purportedly conducted with British tabloid The Daily Star was entirely untrue,”100 percent fabricated,”and just generally completely made-up by the writer in question. In the “interview”—which was picked up by a number of news sites, including our own—Johnson supposedly defamed the members of “generation snowflake” in a generally un-Rock-like fashion, being quoted as saying that “this generation are looking for a reason to be offended.”

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:08:36am

re: #251 Teddy’s Person

This has probable already been seen around these parts but holy shit. This is a picture of the table during a cabinet meeting Trump held the beginning of the month.

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His neediness knows no bounds.

Also, he obviously missed the end of season 7.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:11:13am

re: #203 Jay C

2. It should be noted that that years-long GOP “demonization” of Nancy Pelosi has been usually based mainly on ideological grounds (“loony-left San Francisco liberal”, etc.) ignoring her considerable political skills - honed even sharper by years in the Minority. Sort of the converse of their regard of former Speaker Paul Ryan: hailed (by GOPers) as some sort of genius/visionary because he pushed for all the right pro-oligarchal policies, but as a political leader in the House, all but useless.

Exactly right. And that’s why Pelosi is back in as House speaker and Ryan is on the fast track to irrelevance.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:12:32am

re: #252 Unshaken Defiance

Aaaand the other side shows desperation
news.avclub.com
Dwayne Johnson hopped on Instagram this afternoon to address his fans, letting them know that a recent interview he purportedly conducted with British tabloid The Daily Star was entirely untrue,”100 percent fabricated,”and just generally completely made-up by the writer in question. In the “interview”—which was picked up by a number of news sites, including our own—Johnson supposedly defamed the members of “generation snowflake” in a generally un-Rock-like fashion, being quoted as saying that “this generation are looking for a reason to be offended.”

Doesn’t surprise me. He’s got a lot of fans from my generation. Why shit on them? I like The Rock but not for President obviously.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:12:57am

re: #251 Teddy’s Person

This has probable already been seen around these parts but holy shit. This is a picture of the table during a cabinet meeting Trump held the beginning of the month.

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His neediness knows no bounds.

All he has left are months-old memes that aged as soon as they surfaced.

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:12:59am

re: #243 Charmingly Persistent

I have a question someone here might know the answer to. I will be flying soon and I am wondering if I can give the TSA agents something small to thank them for working without pay. Maybe a Starbucks card? I don’t want to be guilty of bribery or anything!

NOTE!

Federal employees are not allowed to receive any kind of gift from “customers”. Acceptance of a gift is in violation of the Agency Standards of Conduct.

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CongoJack  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:13:39am

re: #253 Ace-o-aces

Also, he obviously missed the end of season 7.

Never watched the show (Game of Thrones) but I’ve read all the books (and waiting for the last one to drop damn it).

Are you talking about the wall and the migrant ‘free folk?”

Is season 7 where the books and the show divert?

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:14:58am

re: #255 HappyWarrior

Doesn’t surprise me. He’s got a lot of fans from my generation. Why shit on them? I like The Rock but not for President obviously.

I like him as an improving actor. Reading Klobuchars wiki and bio, I see a lot to like about her.

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Teddy's Person  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:15:12am

re: #253 Ace-o-aces

Also, he obviously missed the end of season 7.

Joffery be like, hey orange dude, you might want to dial it down a notch.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:16:57am

re: #243 Charmingly Persistent

I have a question someone here might know the answer to. I will be flying soon and I am wondering if I can give the TSA agents something small to thank them for working without pay. Maybe a Starbucks card? I don’t want to be guilty of bribery or anything!

Joe B. beat me to it. Since you can’t give them stuff, your best “gift” to them is to be cheerful, friendly, and make sure you’ve done everything you need to correctly. And if they’re nasty, remember the strain they’re under and stay friendly and cheerful.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:17:50am

re: #226 HappyWarrior

Yep, that’s the guy. I looked for it on the Kindle to no avail. I’ll just order a hardcopy. I’m still finishing Guns of August and then I’m on to Birdsong by Faulks, recommended to me by a Belgian WWI tour guide I met in Ypres a couple years ago.

Here’s a PDF version of The Good Soldier ?vejk:
libcom.org

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:18:09am

re: #253 Ace-o-aces

Also, he obviously missed the end of season 7.

Speaking of TV, I wonder if Trump got the idea for declaring a national emergency from watching House of Cards; recall when President Underwood declares a national emergency to tap FEMA for funds for his national employment project?

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:18:27am

re: #209 MsJ

Hey, would someone on a computer go to the memes page and create one for me using that pic of I think Jon Lovitz saying…

I’m not saying it was treason.

But it was treason.

And then post it here so I can tweet it.

I’m on my phone. Thanks in advance to anyone who has the time!!

Here is my take…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:19:09am

re: #259 Unshaken Defiance

I like him as an improving actor. Reading Klobuchars wiki and bio, I see a lot to like about her.

Ditto. I hope she does run. She has a lot to offer IMO.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:19:17am

re: #262 Backwoods_Sleuth

Here’s a PDF version of The Good Soldier ?vejk:
libcom.org

and Amazon has it for Kindle for $2.99
amazon.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:19:18am

So, after we finally have a Cuba without a Castro as President, we could have a US with a Castro as President….

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:19:31am

re: #262 Backwoods_Sleuth

Here’s a PDF version of The Good Soldier ?vejk:
libcom.org

Cheers.

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sagehen  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:19:38am

re: #193 William Lewis

I get that vibe on Biden even though I like him, I feel like he could screw up someone better despite his own good intentions. Such are the road to hell paved with often enough as it is…

Biden was born in 1942. That disqualifies him for me.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:19:52am

re: #266 Backwoods_Sleuth

and Amazon has it for Kindle for $2.99
amazon.com

Awesome, thanks.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:20:36am

re: #267 Blind Frog Belly White

So, after we finally have a Cuba without a Castro as President, we could have a US with a Castro as President….

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I can see Ted Cruz the lemeass he is trying to equate Julian with Fidel even though his sorry ass via his crazy Dad actually has more of a conection.

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MsJ  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:20:52am

re: #238 ObserverArt

Whoa!

I is getting confused here.

MsJ Happy has Amy Klobuchar in his first line of favorites. See #169

Happy…you have Amy Klobuchar in your first line of favorites!!! See #169

You all got my head a spinning…

I looked twice and missed it. It’s apparently another day where I need to STFU. (deep sigh)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:22:05am

re: #269 sagehen

Biden was born in 1942. That disqualifies him for me.

It’s not a total disqualifer for me but I hear ya, I know it sounds wrong but I really would prefer we not nominate someone who will be 80 at any point in their presidency. I’m okay with Biden running if he wants to but I really think he should step aside. He doesn’t need to be a savior. And frankly, he ought ot know that Democrats do their best as upstarts like Obama, Bill Clinton, and Carter before.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:22:14am

Trump first tweeted that stupid GoF meme just before his midterm electoral shellacking.

And I think HBO noticed.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:22:17am

re: #271 HappyWarrior

I can see Ted Cruz the lemeass he is trying to equate Julian with Fidel even though his sorry ass via his crazy Dad actually has more of a conection.

Oh, for fuck’s sake.

Kind of like how Rafael Edward Cruz bitched about ‘Beto’ O’Rourke using a nickname.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:22:37am

re: #272 MsJ

I looked twice and missed it. It’s apparently another day where I need to STFU. (deep sigh)

Nah you’re good.

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Teddy's Person  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:22:39am

re: #272 MsJ

I looked twice and missed it. It’s apparently another day where I need to STFU. (deep sigh)

Please don’t, I enjoy your postings!

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:22:55am

re: #252 Unshaken Defiance

Aaaand the other side shows desperation
news.avclub.com
Dwayne Johnson hopped on Instagram this afternoon to address his fans, letting them know that a recent interview he purportedly conducted with British tabloid The Daily Star was entirely untrue,”100 percent fabricated,”and just generally completely made-up by the writer in question. In the “interview”—which was picked up by a number of news sites, including our own—Johnson supposedly defamed the members of “generation snowflake” in a generally un-Rock-like fashion, being quoted as saying that “this generation are looking for a reason to be offended.”

Heh, I saw that at the landing page for ATT/Yahoo email. I was a wondering about that. I’m not a big Rock fan, but I thought he was more measured.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:23:01am

re: #273 HappyWarrior

It’s not a total disqualifer for me but I hear ya, I know it sounds wrong but I really would prefer we not nominate someone who will be 80 at any point in their presidency. I’m okay with Biden running if he wants to but I really think he should step aside. He doesn’t need to be a savior. And frankly, he ought ot know that Democrats do their best as upstarts like Obama, Bill Clinton, and Carter before.

People like Biden and Warren are useful in a cabinet and on the WH staff especially if it is a relatively new face.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:23:11am

re: #275 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh, for fuck’s sake.

Kind of like how Rafael Edward Cruz bitched about ‘Beto’ O’Rourke using a nickname.

Well he hasn’t done it yet but I know how Cruz operates but yes that’s exactly what I was thinking of. Plus he called Beto a Communist.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:24:13am

re: #279 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

People like Biden and Warren are useful in a cabinet and on the WH staff especially if it is a relatively new face.

Warren especially. I think someone like Biden maybe you consider them as a special envoy. I really think Biden should enjoy his retirement at this point in his life. Warren I like her as a person a lot and I think she has a lot of passion for the right issues but I’m just not seeing her as having the skills I want in a POTUS.

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jaunte  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:24:26am

re: #271 HappyWarrior

I can see Ted Cruz the lemeass he is trying to equate Julian with Fidel even though his sorry ass via his crazy Dad actually has more of a conection.

“As of 2014, 19.2% of all known bearers of the surname Castro were residents of Mexico
…. 6.3% of the United States
…. 1.8% of Cuba.”

en.wikipedia.org

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MsJ  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:24:47am

re: #264 ObserverArt

Here is my take…

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Thank you!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:24:53am

re: #278 ObserverArt

Heh, I saw that at the landing page for ATT/Yahoo email. I was a wondering about that. I’m not a big Rock fan, but I thought he was more measured.

He seems like a decent enough guy to me. I don’t catch to many of his films although my niece loves Moana but he’s always struck me as a nice guy.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:25:20am

re: #282 jaunte

“As of 2014, 19.2% of all known bearers of the surname Castro were residents of Mexico
…. 6.3% of the United States
…. 1.8% of Cuba.”

en.wikipedia.org

Interesting.

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:27:21am

In my first tier are Tom Wolf (PA Governor), Sherrod Brown, Kamala, Booker and Klobuchar.

Others are in my second tier except for those I don’t want running which include Biden, Gabbard, Bernie and Garcetti. Especially Garcetti who is letting gentrification spiral out of control in Los Angeles.

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:29:06am

As an Ohioan and a big fan of Sherrod Brown since I first followed him in 1972 just out of high school when he entered his first political run I thought this was one of his finer moments…and it really pissed a lot of people off.

SHOUTING MATCH IN THE SENATE: Sherrod Brown vs. Orrin Hatch - “THIS IS BULLCRAP!!!”

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:29:31am

re: #173 lawhawk

Applying your tier structure, I’d reorganize (and yeah, it’s my preferences) thusly:

Tier One: Harris, Booker, Warren, Gillibrand (no order ranking yet)
Tier Two: Beto, Brown, Garcetti, Inslee, Castro
Tier Three: McAuliffe, Delaney
Tier Four: Bloomberg, Biden
Tier Five (don’t just go away.. go home): Bernie, Tulsi.

Bloomberg would make an excellent President. He has real world governing experience and extensive knowledge of economics; he would also double-down on Michelle’s healthy eating campaigns. However, he would have to be at least 15 years younger to have a serious chance of competing and even then, it’s unlikely that he could win. So putting him in tier four makes sense.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:29:54am

With Biden, I like the guy a lot but I concede he’s a little old fashioned. Someone posted an article, maybe I read it here but it basically said that Biden can come off a little old fashioned like when he talked about how he wanted to kick Trump’s ass behind the gym after the pussy tapes. And you know what, I get the sentiment especially for him as a man with a daughter and granddaughters but I don’t know. I just see how our coalition elected many men and women of diverse backgrounds to Congress and think our standard bearer being a 77 year old white guy nicknamed Uncle Joe wouldn’t excite people. You pair someone younger and or non white or male like Beto, Harris, Gillirband with someone like Duckworth, Baldwin, Castro, among other names and I think you’ll excite people. Some people insist this is identity politics but this is more an acknowledgment that there are plenty of qualified men and women of color in our party and if their presence on a ticket would excite the base then go for it. And if we have someone who is bi or even multilingual all the better.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:30:00am

re: #282 jaunte

“As of 2014, 19.2% of all known bearers of the surname Castro were residents of Mexico
…. 6.3% of the United States
…. 1.8% of Cuba.”

en.wikipedia.org

Map of the worldwide distribution of the surname Cruz

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:30:32am

re: #286 Joe Bacon ??

In my first tier are Tom Wolf (PA Governor), Sherrod Brown, Kamala, Booker and Klobuchar.

Others are in my second tier except for those I don’t want running which include Biden, Gabbard, Bernie and Garcetti. Especially Garcetti who is letting gentrification spiral out of control in Los Angeles.

I definitely need to learn more about Garcetti since I’ve read mixed things about him from you and the other LA contingent.

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sagehen  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:30:59am

re: #248 Pawn of the Oppressor

I have a theory that we are in the midst of a time-travel war, in which factions from the future are disrupting events on our timeline. This is based only on the feeling of reality having jumped off the rails in 2016, and the normal course of events leaping around like a scared squirrel at random.

Mabye in the future, an immortal Cyborg Hillary Clinton reigned over a “progressive globalist” world, and a “resistance” faction of Republicans hiding out in Russia sent someone back to set up an election-throwing effort with Putin to make sure Clinton never happened. And it’s been move-countermove on our timeline ever since.

//come on, it’s at least as likely as anything else

you watched every single episode of Timeless, didn’t you?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:31:10am

re: #290 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Map of the worldwide distribution of the surname Cruz

384,675th overall for me in the world hahahaha. It’s most common and dense in Switzerland. Family lore was that we’re Swiss-German but I haven’t seen any record of that except a long ago great grandmother whose father was from Bern.

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:32:49am

re: #272 MsJ

I looked twice and missed it. It’s apparently another day where I need to STFU. (deep sigh)

Awww…you don’t need to shut up. I was having fun with you all. Things were moving pretty fast there when you went right past Happy and Happy went right past himself.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:32:58am

Wolf is a good one Joe and I am glad you brought him up because I think that region needs to be reclaimed and I think Wolf could help there. I just don’t know too much about how he presents himself at this point. Inslee too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:33:30am

moron

and so full of shit

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:33:52am

re: #293 HappyWarrior

384,675th overall for me in the world hahahaha. It’s most common and dense in Switzerland. Family lore was that we’re Swiss-German but I haven’t seen any record of that except a long ago great grandmother whose father was from Bern.

Could he feel it?

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MsJ  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:34:01am
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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:34:10am

Trying to think this through. If the GOP gets decimated by Russia investigation fallout, imho more likely than not, there will be a vacuum of various powers and influences, mostly good of course but necessarily some bad. Real administrative experience and the connections to make things run smoothly than has a higher premium by way or rarity.

New people make mistakes, need the room to do so without catastrophe as a result, for their own careers as well as the rest. High stakes nurturing.

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Teddy's Person  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:34:16am

From Trump’s big adventure at the southern border. Memes, anyone?

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gwangung  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:34:35am

re: #295 HappyWarrior

Wolf is a good one Joe and I am glad you brought him up because I think that region needs to be reclaimed and I think Wolf could help there. I just don’t know too much about how he presents himself at this point. Inslee too.

Not a whole lot of people in Washington state are that excited about Inslee, to be honest.

On the other hand, competent and dull is not a bad thing….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:35:05am

re: #298 MsJ

Why are conservative men afraid of @aoc? Because the age-old strategies some have used to undercut women’s power— sexualizing, criticizing, interrupting, psychopathologizing, humiliating— seem to bounce right off her. She doesn’t care what they think

and she gives ‘em a boner and makes them hot under the collar that even further upsets them

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:35:07am

re: #205 Eclectic Cyborg

So our crazy orange asshole of a President has now stuck us with the longest Federal Government shutdown in American history.

Remember, this was TOTALLY avoidable. There was a clean CR ready to go, but President shitweasel wouldn’t sign it because he decided throw a tantrum over his fucking wall.

Also of note: Republicans have been responsible for the three longest shutdowns of the past 25 years.

Why does everyone continue to blame Trump? It’s Paul Ryan that could have stopped this last year; it’s McConnell that could stop it this year. But they do not want to challenge the Traitor-in-Chief or stand up for the American people. He’s their president and these days they won’t do anything to stop him. Profiles in Cowardice every single one.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:35:56am

re: #297 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Could he feel it?

Hahahhahaha. I don’t know. Probably not. I found out the part of Germany- near Frankfurt FWIW where we’re from was home to tons of religious refugees during the Reformation era. My other shock was finding the original bearers of my surname were Lutherans and not Catholics.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:36:06am

re: #300 Teddy’s Person

From Trump’s big adventure at the southern border. Memes, anyone?

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I see that Ted is still wearing his Brokeback Mountain jacket…

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:37:06am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:37:24am

re: #301 gwangung

Not a whole lot of people in Washington state are that excited about Inslee, to be honest.

On the other hand, competent and dull is not a bad thing….

Maybe he’s someone you give a cabinet post too. Competent and dull though after incompetent and brash would be welcome to me. But if I understand you right, he’s not the most inspiring type in the world but he gets the job done which is fine with me as I liked John Kerry in 2004 who was also said to be boring yet competent and knowledgeable.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:38:34am

re: #303 Hecuba’s daughter

Why does everyone continue to blame Trump? It’s Paul Ryan that could have stopped this last year; it’s McConnell that could stop it this year. But they do no want to challenge the Traitor-in-Chief or stand up for the American people. He’s their president and these days they won’t do anything to stop him. Profiles in Cowardice every single one.

Tbe buck stops with the President. Obviously Ryan and McConnell bear blame too but Trump is the one telling McConnell not to let the bill that would pass both the House and Seante go through. So it is ultimately Trump.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:38:45am

re: #304 HappyWarrior

Hahahhahaha. I don’t know. Probably not. I found out the part of Germany- near Frankfurt FWIW where we’re from was home to tons of religious refugees during the Reformation era. My other shock was finding the original bearers of my surname were Lutherans and not Catholics.

Neu-Isenburg, near Frankfurt, was a place of refuge for the French Protestant Huguenots, who fled persecution in the 1500’s.

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:39:06am

re: #296 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:39:11am

re: #300 Teddy’s Person

From Trump’s big adventure at the southern border. Memes, anyone?

[Embedded content]

His beard looks glued on. It doesn’t make him look distinguished at all.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:40:50am

re: #309 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Neu-Isenburg, near Frankfurt, was a place of refuge for the French Huguenots, who fled persecution in the 1600’s.

I google maped that, that’s about 40 KMs from where my surname bearers are from. That’s south of Frankfurt while ours is north though. I still have relatives in Germany since both of my second great grandparents had siblings stay and I’ve talked to descendants of both.

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:43:10am

re: #296 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

and so full of shit

Donald J. Trump ?
@realDonaldTrump

I just watched a Fake reporter from the Amazon Washington Post say the White House is “chaotic, there does not seem to be a strategy for this Shutdown. There is no plan.” The Fakes always like talking Chaos, there is NONE. In fact, there’s almost nobody in the W.H. but me, and…

10:57 AM - Jan 12, 2019

Well, he is sorta right. There is no one in the White House but him. Everyone has either quit or is ignored because he rules like it is only him.

It’s gonna be one of those days and weekends. He’ll be cranking out mean tweets all the time. He is deep in it and it just keeps getting deeper.

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MsJ  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:43:54am
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Teddy's Person  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:47:20am

re: #311 HappyWarrior

His beard looks glued on. It doesn’t make him look distinguished at all.

Agreed. Not sure what he’s going for, but a beard is not a great look for Ted. Although, at some point, he thought this was a good idea.

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Belafon  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:49:45am

re: #219 HappyWarrior

I want him to donate to my charity
Raising
Investments
Properly
Online
For
Friends.

I’m sure someone else has written this, but this gives me a great idea for a machine learning algorithm, a backronym generator: given a word, create reasonable sounding sequences that that word would be the acronym for.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:50:58am

re: #296 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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and so full of shit

Trump could have declared an “emergency” back on Tuesday night when he had the opportunity. That he didn’t makes it feel like an empty threat.

It’s almost a total carbon copy of when the rumors of firing Evil Keebler Elf Sessions and/or Rod Rosenstein — so as to shut the Muller investigation down — kept being floated about over the past two years. Heck, that was informally the real reason why Lex Luthor was selected to replace Sessions. But … none of that actually came to pass. Rosenstein is still there and Muller is still working on the investigation, if not already prepping to wrap it up.

Trump is not only full of shit, but he’s either too chicken to actually follow through on his varied threats… or is continuously told not to follow through by the few remaining competent advisors in his circle, and he can’t help himself by boasting empty promises.

And the Democratic leadership not only knows this right off the gate, they are undoubtedly convinced he’ll eventually fold like a paper napkin. His stonewalling is as much of a con as his racist wall is, they know it, and everyone not pledging total fealty to Trump knows it.

Because for Trump, it’s already too late.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:51:01am

re: #314 MsJ

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Sinema who actually had been elected before unlike Ash’s Trump.

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MsJ  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:51:08am

Of course.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:51:22am

re: #314 MsJ

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And Sinema is one of the most conservative Democrats in Congress!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:51:47am

re: #315 Teddy’s Person

Agreed. Not sure what he’s going for, but a beard is not a great look for Ted. Although, at some point, he thought this was a good idea.

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Yeah haha.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:52:22am

re: #320 NO SMOCKING GUN!

And Sinema is one of the most conservative Democrats in Congress!

Which means she’s a Marxist to this loon.

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Teddy's Person  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:53:12am

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:54:10am

re: #322 HappyWarrior

Which means she’s a Marxist to this loon.

Its crazy how the Right obsesses about imaginary communist conspiracies in the Democratic Party, while they ignore the fact that the Republican in the Oval Office is a KGB asset.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:54:11am

re: #323 Teddy’s Person

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Run Donald Run! Oh wait.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:54:58am

re: #324 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Its crazy how the Right obsesses about imaginary communist conspiracies in the Democratic Party, while they ignore the fact that the Republican in the Oval Office is a KGB asset.

Who had praised Kim Jong Un and Xi’s “toughness.”

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sagehen  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:58:12am

re: #324 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Its crazy how the Right obsesses about imaginary communist conspiracies in the Democratic Party, while they ignore the fact that the Republican in the Oval Office is a KGB asset.

It makes perfect sense.

The KGB, and Russia generally, aren’t communist anymore.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:58:58am

re: #327 sagehen

It makes perfect sense.

The KGB, and Russia generally, aren’t communist anymore.

They are kleptocrats, which is the future conservatives want for us.

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Belafon  Jan 12, 2019 • 9:59:00am

re: #298 MsJ

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And, for Brian J., one of the men that found out the hard way was Bernie Sanders. Remember when he tried to interrupt her at that press conference thing?

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Myron Falwell  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:01:24am

re: #324 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Its crazy how the Right obsesses about imaginary communist conspiracies in the Democratic Party, while they ignore the fact that the Republican in the Oval Office is a KGB asset.

All they want are even lower taxes for their party’s core bankrollers and one more Federalist Society member on SCOTUS. That’s how reductive their core beliefs have been boiled down leading up to, and with, Trump.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:01:25am

re: #327 sagehen

It makes perfect sense.

The KGB, and Russia generally, aren’t communist anymore.

FSB now not KGB.

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Sionainn, Fierce Mother  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:01:44am

re: #290 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Map of the worldwide distribution of the surname Cruz

That’s a really cool site. I put in my name and found that there are fewer than 5,000 people in the world with my surname.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:04:50am

re: #332 Sionainn, Fierce Mother

That’s a really cool site. I put in my name and found that there are fewer than 5,000 people in the world with my surname.

Yeah I’ve used in my research before. I’ve got a German surname but I had an Irish Nana so a lot of Irish surnames in my tree and Irish surnames can very province centric. Nana’s mother’s maiden name is very common in Western Ireland to the point it’s like Smith and her father’s more so in Ulster.

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Belafon  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:05:09am

re: #332 Sionainn, Fierce Mother

According to the site, my last name, Mask, has the second highest count in Egypt: forebears.io.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:05:44am

re: #331 Hecuba’s daughter

FSB now not KGB.

A rose by any other name.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:06:59am

re: #327 sagehen

It makes perfect sense.

The KGB, and Russia generally, aren’t communist anymore.

Russian isn’t communist, but the overall authoritarianism never left, and that’s what the GOP has gradually embraced.

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William Lewis  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:07:24am

re: #331 Hecuba’s daughter

FSB now not KGB.

The names may change, but they stay the same and they maintain loyalty only to their own with power and gold as the only acceptable reward. Thus it was as Soviets so it still is now.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:07:31am

re: #330 Myron Falwell

All they want are even lower taxes for their party’s core bankrollers and one more Federalist Society member on SCOTUS. That’s how reductive their core beliefs have been boiled down leading up to, and with, Trump.

The other day the infamous BBD dropped a note here that Ginsburg was retiring. Funny thing — my Trumpster brother made the same point yesterday. So it’s a wish circulating among the RW fever swamps. I am sure that if the President were HRC that RBG would be retiring now, but with Trump — no way.

OT: When reading Steve Schmidt’s thread the other day, I saw that some poster there charged that the Russians changed voter registration profiles to disenfranchise Democratic voters thereby depriving Hillary of 100,000’s of votes. Anyone else see anything discussing this allegation?

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Jay C  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:09:12am

re: #332 Sionainn, Fierce Mother

That’s a really cool site. I put in my name and found that there are fewer than 5,000 people in the world with my surname.

I was somewhat surprised to find out that my surname (which I had thought to be typically Ashkenazi-Jewish) is actually more common in Colombia and The Philippines than in the US. Though I’m not sure I would be related to many of these folks: like so many other descendants of immigrants, my family name was a “gift” from officials at Ellis Island.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:09:17am

re: #242 Ace-o-aces

Who’s gonna do maintenance?

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MsJ  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:10:16am

re: #324 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Its crazy how the Right obsesses about imaginary communist conspiracies in the Democratic Party, while they ignore the fact that the Republican in the Oval Office is a KGB asset.

Apropos of nothing, Trump’s surrounded himself with military people. If Kelly isn’t an FBI asset, he knew full well what trump was doing and as so, is a fucking traitor himself. He needs to lose everything. His rank, his retirement benefits. Everything. Same with all the other military members involved.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:14:37am

re: #339 Jay C

I was somewhat surprised to find out that my surname (which I had thought to be typically Ashkenazi-Jewish) is actually more common in Colombia and The Philippines than in the US. Though I’m not sure I would be related to many of these folks: like so many other descendants of immigrants, my family name was a “gift” from officials at Ellis Island.

It’s interesting. My maternal grandfather’s name has three variants. How his grandmother’s descendants spell it in Slovenia, how his parents did here in the US, & how he and his brothers did and how my mom she married, It gets less and less Slavic sounding as we get closer to the present. And my grandmother’s name the spelling is the same here as in Slovakia but the pronouncing changes.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:14:45am

re: #339 Jay C

I was somewhat surprised to find out that my surname (which I had thought to be typically Ashkenazi-Jewish) is actually more common in Colombia and The Philippines than in the US. Though I’m not sure I would be related to many of these folks: like so many other descendants of immigrants, my family name was a “gift” from officials at Ellis Island.

My name is most common in the US, followed by England, and is spread throughout the empire. Belize has the highest number of Cobbs per capita!

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:14:57am

re: #332 Sionainn, Fierce Mother

That’s a really cool site. I put in my name and found that there are fewer than 5,000 people in the world with my surname.

Shocked to see a lot of Bacon’s in the Philippines!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:16:32am

re: #343 NO SMOCKING GUN!

My name is most common in the US, followed by England, and is spread throughout the empire. Belize has the highest number of Cobbs per capita!

A lot of people don’t know that Belize is a former English colony and English speaking. Cobb I dunno maybe because of Ty always sounded more “Southern US” to me.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:16:41am

Smiths, of course, cluster in former British colonies.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:17:18am

re: #341 MsJ

Apropos of nothing, Trump’s surrounded himself with military people. If Kelly isn’t an FBI asset, he knew full well what trump was doing and as so, is a fucking traitor himself. He needs to lose everything. His rank, his retirement benefits. Everything. Same with all the other military members involved.

The timing of Kelly’s very hasty departure now looks considerably more suspicious to me after these revelations dropped IMO. Why leave now after allowing yourself to be debased so badly over the past two years working for Trump?

For his sake, he better have been an asset.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:18:19am

re: #346 Blind Frog Belly White

Smiths, of course, cluster in former British colonies.

I don’t have Smith but I have German and Slovak variations.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:18:52am

re: #341 MsJ

Apropos of nothing, Trump’s surrounded himself with military people. If Kelly isn’t an FBI asset, he knew full well what trump was doing and as so, is a fucking traitor himself. He needs to lose everything. His rank, his retirement benefits. Everything. Same with all the other military members involved.

Kelly is clearly a misogynist and racist, two qualities that he shares with Trump. I wouldn’t be so confident that Kelly was aware of everything Trump was doing — it’s not as though Trump doesn’t routinely lie to his staff as well as everyone else in the nation. Hadn’t they been on the outs for a very long time? And Kelly, like Mattis and others, may have thought he was protecting the country against Trump’s worst FP intentions.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:19:55am

re: #349 Hecuba’s daughter

Kelly is clearly a misogynist and racist, two qualities that he shares with Trump. I wouldn’t be so confident that Kelly was aware of everything Trump was doing — it’s not as though Trump doesn’t routinely lie to his staff as well as everyone else in the nation. Hadn’t they been on the outs for a very long time? And Kelly, like Mattis and others, may have thought he was protecting the country against Trump’s worst FP intentions.

That is certainly Kelly’s story as he tries to rehabilitate his tattered reputation.

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ckkatz  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:22:16am

I suspect that a major part of Biden’s attractiveness is the fact that he has been ‘vetted’. That is that he has shown repeatedly he will stay within the ‘rails’ of American Governance. In the face of the current administration, that will be important.

And, as several of the posters have pointed out, Biden has other ways to add the reassurance, beyond running as a candidate.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:23:10am

re: #293 HappyWarrior

Mines - 1,034,354th - no known meaning; prevalence and density, US.

It’s a modified German/Frankish from something. Not a lot of us. Claims ~241 people claim this surname.

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lawhawk  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:24:24am

re: #173 lawhawk

And yeah, Klobuchar would be Tier 1 too (omission was my bad).

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:26:07am

re: #351 ckkatz

I suspect that a major part of Biden’s attractiveness is the fact that he has been ‘vetted’. That is that he has shown repeatedly he will stay within the ‘rails’ of American Governance. In the face of the current administration, that will be important.

And, as several of the posters have pointed out, Biden has other ways to add the reassurance, beyond running as a candidate.

Personally, I’m hoping for one of the younger candidates to be the nominee. As has been pointed out, Biden’s long career has created a lot of policy positions that he can be attacked on, like his vote for the Iraq War and for DOMA. It may not be fair, but it’s politics. Plus I think since the Democratic coalition skews younger, a younger candidate can inspire more enthusiasm in the voters we need to get to the polls.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:27:24am

re: #352 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Mines - 1,034,354th - no known meaning; prevalence and density, US.

It’s a modified German/Frankish from something. Not a lot of us. Claims ~241 people claim this surname.

Yeah yours is even less so than mine. With mine, there’s not a lot of us in my branch with the name since my dad was the only son to have sons and his only uncle’s son didn’t have kids and my grandfather’s uncles if they had sons had sons who only had girls. Have to go to my second grandfather’s brother to see sons having sons. My German cousin tells me there’s no one left in the home area with our name. Her great grandmother was dad’s great grandfather’s sister.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:28:04am

re: #353 lawhawk

And yeah, Klobuchar would be Tier 1 too (omission was my bad).

She’s underrated imo.

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lawhawk  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:28:04am

Looks like NYS is finally moving ahead with the voter registration reforms that have been long needed. There’s a slate of bills that are under consideration and some could be enacted this year in time for 2020.

The proposals are a veritable wish list for those who have blamed New York’s laws for driving down voter turnout. The measures include allowing early voting, preregistration of 16- and 17-year-olds and consolidating state and federal primary elections, which are now held in different months.

Lawmakers also plan to pass bills to allow vote-by-mail and same-day voter registration, though those proposals will also require voter referendums — and passage by the next Legislature, scheduled to be seated in 2021 — as they change the State Constitution.

Some require a referendum, which means that the earliest that they’d take effect is 2021, because they amend the state constitution.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:28:37am

OT I am still surprised that there are people complaining about Victoria Season 3 on Amazon. The 3rd season of Victoria will start on January 13, 2019. I again wrote a review explaining the basic season pass rules and it just went live. There is no doubt that this season will be as good as the previous two seasons.

amazon.com

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MsJ  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:28:46am
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jaunte  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:28:47am

re: #332 Sionainn, Fierce Mother

That’s a really cool site. I put in my name and found that there are fewer than 5,000 people in the world with my surname.

Same here.

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MsJ  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:30:58am

MERRY FORKING CHRISTMAS!

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Myron Falwell  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:32:14am

re: #349 Hecuba’s daughter

And Kelly, like Mattis and others, may have thought he was protecting the country against Trump’s worst FP intentions.

That narrative has been floating around for awhile. Even got to the point of rumors that those two (and even Sessions) wanted to invoke the 25th amendment.

They knew Trump was debasing them, and clearly were trying to create those rumors to save themselves as early as the middle of 2017.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:33:35am

re: #343 NO SMOCKING GUN!

My name is most common in the US, followed by England, and is spread throughout the empire. Belize has the highest number of Cobbs per capita!

It’s interesting to read people’s thinking on who they might think would make the best presidential candidate. I’m still learning about various people and their positions, so I don’t have a clear choice. That said, a bowl of rocks would be better than what we have now.

As for my surname based on that website, I think LGF needs to declare me an endangered species.

910,956th
Most Common
Surname in the World

Approximately 290 people bear this surname
Most prevalent in:
United States
Highest density in:
Australia

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:34:28am
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Dave In Austin  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:37:20am

16 rants so far today. I think his bowels are loose as well.

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ckkatz  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:37:39am

re: #354 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Personally, I’m hoping for one of the younger candidates to be the nominee. As has been pointed out, Biden’s long career has created a lot of policy positions that he can be attacked on, like his vote for the Iraq War and for DOMA. It may not be fair, but it’s politics. Plus I think since the Democratic coalition skews younger, a younger candidate can inspire more enthusiasm in the voters we need to get to the polls.

I agree with you that it is more better for a younger candidate to run. Age 70+ has way too many risks. For health, cognitive issues, mental and physical energy, focus levels, for flexibility.

And, yes, the Democrats need to involve the next generation into politics. First on the scene gets to stake out the territory and define the future. Getting stuck in the battles of the past will distract from that. To include Biden’s positions on long gone fights.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:38:31am

re: #366 ckkatz

I agree with you that it is more better for a younger candidate to run. Age 70+ has way too many risks. For health, cognitive issues, mental and physical energy, focus levels, for flexibility.

And, yes, the Democrats need to involve the next generation into politics. First on the scene gets to stake out the territory and define the future. Getting stuck in the battles of the past will distract from that. To include Biden’s positions on long gone fights.

That really is why I wanted O’Malley to emerge as a credible challenger to HRC.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:38:45am

re: #359 MsJ

He’s worried that his chances for re-election next November are being thrown out the window right now. Good.

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Sionainn, Fierce Mother  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:39:02am

re: #361 MsJ

MERRY FORKING CHRISTMAS!

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Must have been a Christmas hating librul!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:39:08am

re: #352 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Mines - 1,034,354th - no known meaning; prevalence and density, US.

It’s a modified German/Frankish from something. Not a lot of us. Claims ~241 people claim this surname.

Mine: 12,185th
US: 29,601

But the family story is that it was changed at Ellis Island. My father’s cousin had a different spelling. The largest number is in the US, with Germany and Austria 2nd and 3rd, except my father’s family was from Poland.

Edited: Original count had typo

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:39:24am

re: #367 HappyWarrior

That really is why I wanted O’Malley to emerge as a credible challenger to HRC.

O’Malley had too many strikes against him including the botched launch of the Maryland exchange and the unrest in Baltimore.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:40:28am

re: #371 Joe Bacon ??

O’Malley had too many strikes against him including the botched launch of the Maryland exchange and the unrest in Baltimore.

I know but I still hoped he would emerge over Bernie.

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:41:21am

I can’t help it.
Doggos getting booties just cracks me up

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:41:26am

The unrest in Baltimore though with Freddie Gray was after he left office I should add. Now that said, his record on that issue wasn’t good.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:41:37am

re: #368 Myron Falwell

He’s worried that his chances for re-election next November are being thrown out the window right now. Good.

Toast…. Some of the States he carried are gone. At this point it would take massive fraud to get him back in. My 2 cents. He needs to be primaried.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:41:59am

Webb I’m glad he flopped and that’s from a former constituent.

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:44:44am

re: #374 HappyWarrior

The unrest in Baltimore though with Freddie Gray was after he left office I should add. Now that said, his record on that issue wasn’t good.

Doesn’t matter because Republicans would have targeted him with it the same way as they targeted Debo Adegbile with Mumia Abu-Jamal. Debo’s career was destroyed.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:45:27am

re: #332 Sionainn, Fierce Mother

That’s a really cool site. I put in my name and found that there are fewer than 5,000 people in the world with my surname.

I’m not sure how they gather data, but I presume any person who changed a maiden name to a hub’s surname (or much less frequently the other way round) would be lost in that.

My wife’s surname is much more common than mine (plus more interesting, since she’s related to a prominent bank robber gang in the XIX Century).

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:45:29am

re: #363 Anymouse ??

As for my surname based on that website, I think LGF needs to declare me an endangered species.

910,956th
Most Common
Surname in the World

Approximately 290 people bear this surname
Most prevalent in:
United States
Highest density in:
Australia

According to that site, about 212 people have my surname — but they’re not showing people outside the US, which is suspicious.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:46:09am

re: #377 Joe Bacon ??

Doesn’t matter because Republicans would have targeted him with it the same way as they targeted Debo Abigdelah with Mumia Abu-Jamal. Debo’s career was destroyed.

True true.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:47:34am

re: #379 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

According to that site, about 212 people have my surname — but they’re not showing people outside the US, which is suspicious.

Your version could be the American version tho. It’s funny tho seeing how even people in the family may spell or or pronounce it different.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:47:53am

re: #375 Dave In Austin

Toast…. Some of the States he carried are gone. At this point it would take massive fraud to get him back in. My 2 cents. He needs to be primaried.

The question is whether anything can penetrate the vibranium cocoon between his cult followers and reality. Right now, if Trump runs for re-election, no Republican could possibly defeat him in the GOP primary.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:48:14am

re: #379 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

According to that site, about 212 people have my surname — but they’re not showing people outside the US, which is suspicious.

Your family is obviously Native Americans. /s

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:48:32am

re: #379 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

According to that site, about 212 people have my surname — but they’re not showing people outside the US, which is suspicious.

I’ve got you beat, with only 86. However, there are over 100 more that have one of several very close spellings - which is not surprising, given the name’s length and complexity.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:49:07am

re: #382 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The question is whether anything can penetrate the vibranium cocoon between his cult followers and reality. Right now, if Trump runs for re-election, no Republican could possibly defeat him in the GOP primary.

Someone with nothing to lose needs to primary him and cripple his re-election chances. I think Baker and Hogan are too moderate to have that kind of effect but Kasich could.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:49:20am

re: #381 HappyWarrior

Your version could be the American version tho. It’s funny tho seeing how even people in the family may spell or or pronounce it different.

No, the “original” version is listed there… in the US.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:49:45am

re: #386 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

No, the “original” version is listed there… in the US.

Ah then I got nothin.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:49:52am

re: #382 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The question is whether anything can penetrate the vibranium cocoon between his cult followers and reality. Right now, if Trump runs for re-election, no Republican could possibly defeat him in the GOP primary.

Plus the GOP is calling for Trump’s campaign and the GOP campaign to be merged into one operation. That would make a primary tough with no support from a state party.

Those guys really like democracy.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:50:00am

re: #382 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The question is whether anything can penetrate the vibranium cocoon between his cult followers and reality. Right now, if Trump runs for re-election, no Republican could possibly defeat him in the GOP primary.

What do you think of Kasich? He’s running. I’m sure of that.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:50:44am

re: #363 Anymouse ??

I got ya beat. I’m at 1,034,354th. Only 241 have my surname.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:51:54am

re: #389 Dave In Austin

What do you think of Kasich? He’s running. I’m sure of that.

I think Kasich could upset the apple cart. The thing is the challenger needs to know he will not be nominated and it will end any chance of being President for himself but it will end Trump. Is Kasich up to that?

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:52:21am

re: #384 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’ve got you beat, with only 86. However, there are over 100 more that have one of several very close spellings - which is not surprising, given the name’s length and complexity.

There are variations of mine there too (alphabet issues), but there are very similar names to mine, so no way to tell whether they should be included.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:52:55am

re: #389 Dave In Austin

What do you think of Kasich? He’s running. I’m sure of that.

Kasich is no moderate (MSNBC)

But a look at both his record and his policies makes clear that Kasich is no moderate. From taxes to climate change, Kasich assiduously toes the line of modern Republican orthodoxy, which is to say, he’s a staunch conservative. And on some issues he goes even further. If Kasich does somehow emerge as the GOP nominee, it likely wouldn’t take Democrats long to highlight some of these stances—and undermine his moderate credentials.

(more, with his positions)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:53:10am

re: #392 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

There are variations of mine there too (alphabet issues), but there are very similar names to mine, so no way to tell whether they should be included.

I can just about guarantee, with mine, that if they aren’t direct relatives, they at least all belonged to the clan before they emigrated.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:53:17am

re: #373 FormerDirtDart ????

From what I’ve read, bots on cats and dogs screws up theirs interpretation and sensing of “ground”, hence the weird-ass high stepping.

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MsJ  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:53:36am

re: #389 Dave In Austin

What do you think of Kasich? He’s running. I’m sure of that.

He’s HORRIBLE. He has Chris Christie’s temperament and Mike pences typical Republican, anti women way of governing. He comes off as sensible until you challenge him then he’s a snake uncoiling to bite your face off.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:54:59am

re: #393 Anymouse ??

Kasich is no moderate (MSNBC)

(more, with his positions)

No one is saying he is. I think the challenger will be someone outside of Washington. Those dreaming about Nikki Haley are delusional but Kasich would be able to distance himself from Trump while at the same time having conservative bonafides that Baker or Hogan wouldn’t in a GOP primary.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:55:22am

re: #391 HappyWarrior

I think Kasich could upset the apple cart. The thing is the challenger needs to know he will not be nominated and it will end any chance of being President for himself but it will end Trump. Is Kasich up to that?

The only Republican voters who would support Kasich are the never-Trumpers and my guess is that by the end of this year, they will all be Democrats anyway, unless of course the Mueller report is so damning that Trump is forced to resign

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:56:10am

re: #396 MsJ

He’s HORRIBLE. He has Chris Christie’s temperament and Mike pences typical Republican, anti women way of governing. He comes off as sensible until you challenge him then he’s a snake uncoiling to bite your face off.

I think as a credible Republican primary challenger. Think like a Republican here. Subtract 20 IQ points, 80 empathy points, and 1000 decency points from yourself :)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:58:07am

re: #398 Hecuba’s daughter

The only Republican voters who would support Kasich are the never-Trumpers and my guess is that by the end of this year, they will all be Democrats anyway, unless of course the Mueller report is so damning that Trump is forced to resign

I don’t see Wilson becoming a Democrat. FWIW I see this as not being about beating Trump in a primary but hurting him. The proverbial shots to the gut and limbs but not the fatal coup de gras which will hopefully be administered by Beto or whomever emerges.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:58:14am

re: #355 HappyWarrior

Yeah yours is even less so than mine. With mine, there’s not a lot of us in my branch with the name since my dad was the only son to have sons and his only uncle’s son didn’t have kids and my grandfather’s uncles if they had sons had sons who only had girls. Have to go to my second grandfather’s brother to see sons having sons. My German cousin tells me there’s no one left in the home area with our name. Her great grandmother was dad’s great grandfather’s sister.

my mom’s maiden name is fairly common until you plug in the missing “z” that my grandfather dropped from the name when he arrived at Ellis Island.
With the “z” included, the site says there are only six people with that surname, mostly in Mexico, the rest in Slovakia.
I know the ones in Mexico are Jewish. Kind of funny that, because when I was younger, my family often got mistaken for Jewish (we were RC, and my grandfather was Rom).

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:58:35am

re: #389 Dave In Austin

What do you think of Kasich? He’s running. I’m sure of that.

He has no chance of winning the GOP nomination for President.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:58:52am

re: #393 Anymouse ??

We all know that. That’s not the point. Even an Independent Conservative run will hurt him. I’ll take it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 12, 2019 • 10:59:39am

re: #396 MsJ

He’s HORRIBLE. He has Chris Christie’s temperament and Mike pences typical Republican, anti women way of governing. He comes off as sensible until you challenge him then he’s a snake uncoiling to bite your face off.

Compared to either Trump or Pence, Kasich is a model of probity, thoughtfulness, and progress. He also comes across as sympathetic to immigrants.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:00:05am

re: #402 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Any burr under the saddle, I’ll support.

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ckkatz  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:00:18am

Hmm… I checked a family name, ‘Keller’, on that website. And it seems to have blended in ‘Kelly’. Which is actually quite interesting. So I looked a little further.

Mine is German based. From the German meaning ‘cellar’. Often meaning winemaker. And is particularly concentrated in the German speaking parts of Switzerland.

But, apparently, there is also an Anglicized Gaelic from “ó Céilechair”, descendant of Céilechair, from County Clare. The Anglicized surname in Ireland has many different spellings including: O’Kelleher, Kelaher, Kelliher, Kellar, Keller, McKeller, MacKeller, and O’Keller.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:00:22am

re: #401 Backwoods_Sleuth

my mom’s maiden name is fairly common until you plug in the missing “z” that my grandfather dropped from the name when he arrived at Ellis Island.
With the “z” included, the site says there are only six people with that surname, mostly in Mexico, the rest in Slovakia.
I know the ones in Mexico are Jewish. Kind of funny that, because when I was younger, my family often got mistaken for Jewish (we were RC, and my grandfather was Rom).

Greek Catholic. Grandmas maiden name isn’t really uncommon in NE Slovakia but it’s tough to track in records since sometimes you had the records in Magyar, sometimes in German, & Latin.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:01:12am

re: #402 NO SMOCKING GUN!

He has no chance of winning the GOP nomination for President.

But can he hurt Trump if he does? Hogan or Baker wouldn’t but I think Kasich could.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:01:36am

re: #403 Dave In Austin

We all know that. That’s not the point. Even an Independent Conservative run will hurt him. I’ll take it.

I misunderstood the question “What do you think of Kasich?”

I thought it was a question on his positions, rather than his chances against Trump. Sorry about that.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:02:08am

re: #406 ckkatz

Hmm… I checked a family name, ‘Keller’, on that website. And it seems to have blended in ‘Kelly’. Which is actually quite interesting. So I looked a little further.

Mine is German based. From the German meaning ‘cellar’. Often meaning winemaker. And is particularly concentrated in the German speaking parts of Switzerland.

But, apparently, there is also an Anglicized Gaelic from “ó Céilechair”, descendant of Céilechair, from County Clare. The Anglicized surname in Ireland has many different spellings including: O’Kelleher, Kelaher, Kelliher, Kellar, Keller, McKeller, MacKeller, and O’Keller.

Clare! Cousin! ;) that’s actually one of my Irish walls tho.

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:02:26am

Football in Kansas City this afternoon

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:03:34am

No one will primary Trump outside maybe a Great Depression but even then Hoover survived in 1932 to be renominates.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:03:52am

re: #391 HappyWarrior

I think Kasich could upset the apple cart. The thing is the challenger needs to know he will not be nominated and it will end any chance of being President for himself but it will end Trump. Is Kasich up to that?

Reagan sank Ford’s re-election chances in 1976. Kasich knows he’ll never be nominated but, unlike DeWine (gag) he openly hates Trump. I can see it legit happening.

In the event Pence somehow (survives this investigation and) ascends to POTUS, a Kasich campaign will be a long, dragged out insurgency that only impairs Pence’s chances that November.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:05:03am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:05:29am

re: #413 Myron Falwell

Reagan sank Ford’s re-election chances in 1976. Kasich knows he’ll never be nominated but, unlike DeWine (gag) he openly hates Trump. I can see it legit happening.

In the event Pence somehow (survives this investigation and) ascends to POTUS, a Kasich campaign will be a long, dragged out insurgency that only impairs Pence’s chances that November.

If Kasich knows he won’t be nominated, I think he should go for it. His team might find some stuff on Trump we could use.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:05:48am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:08:40am

I can’t stand Kasich but I’d love for him to rough Trump up a little and make him spend money before the GE.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:08:51am

Narrator’s Voice: It’s already too late.

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ckkatz  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:10:43am

re: #416 Charles Johnson

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From wiki:

In December 2015, Godwin commented on the Nazi and fascist comparisons being made by several articles about Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, saying: “If you’re thoughtful about it and show some real awareness of history, go ahead and refer to Hitler when you talk about Trump, or any other politician.”

en.wikipedia.org

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Dave In Austin  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:11:37am

re: #409 Anymouse ??

NP, My gut is just screaming right now that this shit is going to start really snowballing.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:12:28am

re: #418 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Narrator’s Voice: It’s already too late.

It was too late the second Trump became a front runner or even when Romney was the nominee.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:15:03am

re: #418 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Narrator’s Voice: It’s already too late.

re: #421 HappyWarrior

It was too late the second Trump became a front runner or even when Romney was the nominee.

It was too late when the politically illiterate Palin got hand-picked as a VP nominee.

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:15:27am

re: #344 Joe Bacon ??

Shocked to see a lot of Bacon’s in the Philippines!

Everyone everywhere likes Bacons!!!

: )

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MsJ  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:16:18am
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MsJ  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:18:42am

re: #404 Hecuba’s daughter

Compared to either Trump or Pence, Kasich is a model of probity, thoughtfulness, and progress. He also comes across as sympathetic to immigrants.

Meaning he has zero chance of winning over Republicans.

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MsJ  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:21:10am

re: #418 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Narrator’s Voice: It’s already too late.

They’re both giant Sequoias and redwoods now.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:21:12am
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Charles Johnson  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:23:37am
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MsJ  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:24:04am

re: #427 Charles Johnson

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:24:46am

re: #427 Charles Johnson

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When Trump is your standard bearer, you don’t get to complain about being accused of racism, conservatives. Obviously not every conservative is a racist but nearly every conservative has an ugly indifference to racism and its effects.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:25:16am

re: #429 MsJ

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They just love being the victims. They want to be rid of King and I don’t blame them, the man is horrible but they don’t want to take any responsibility.

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makeitstop  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:25:35am

re: #365 Dave In Austin

16 rants so far today. I think his bowels are loose as well.

Ain’t it funny how the phrase ‘No collusion’ isn’t in a single one of them?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:25:57am

Also when your ideology makes people like Limbaugh and Coulter famous, you don’t get to complain about people calling you racist either. Conservatism in itself I don’t think is a racist ideology but of all the mainstream ideologies in this country, it leads itself to it the most.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:26:10am

re: #428 Charles Johnson

“…wrongly tarred as racists.”

Hate to break it to them but if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:26:50am

re: #432 makeitstop

Ain’t it funny how the phrase ‘No collusion’ isn’t in a single one of them?

I still think he’ll slip up one day and admit everything but insist it was for our own good and to “save” us from “Crooked Hillary” and people like Lumpy Hannity and the Freedumb Caucus assholes will eat that shit up.

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Jay C  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:28:09am

re: #434 Myron Falwell

“…wrongly tarred as racists.”

Hate to break it to them but if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck…

And leaves duck shit all over your floor, then yeah: it’s a goddamn duck!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:29:36am

I mean I’m sorry but Steve King has always been a racist. He was like this in the Obama years too. Am I glad that more Republicans are expresssingly publicly that his shit is wrong? Sure I am but they were silent as hell when it didn’t look like King would cost them Iowa and was hurting their image. Conservatives care more about being called racist than doing shit about racism.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:31:39am

It’s not that conservatism in itself is a racist ideology. It’s that racism and conservatism in this country often go hand and hand.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:33:41am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:34:09am

re: #413 Myron Falwell

Reagan sank Ford’s re-election chances in 1976. Kasich knows he’ll never be nominated but, unlike DeWine (gag) he openly hates Trump. I can see it legit happening.

In the event Pence somehow (survives this investigation and) ascends to POTUS, a Kasich campaign will be a long, dragged out insurgency that only impairs Pence’s chances that November.

Ford sank his own chance when he blew a simple debate question on Poland. There were several factors working against him — and Reagan didn’t make the list.

usnews.com

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bd(it's all true)  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:34:13am

re: #365 Dave In Austin

16 rants so far today. I think his bowels are loose as well.

There is no one left in the White House to tell him to stop or to come downstairs and do some work.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:34:47am

re: #408 HappyWarrior

But can he hurt Trump if he does? Hogan or Baker wouldn’t but I think Kasich could.

It could be that there are Republicans who have drifted into calling themselves Independents because they can’t stand Trump, and maybe if Kasich ran against Trump they would vote for him in the primaries. If he could shock the world with a 30% share in the NH primary, that could cause consternation in Trumpworld.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:36:44am

re: #418 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Narrator’s Voice: It’s already too late.

They aren’t seeds; they are redwoods.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:38:01am
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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:40:28am

re: #391 HappyWarrior

I think Kasich could upset the apple cart. The thing is the challenger needs to know he will not be nominated and it will end any chance of being President for himself but it will end Trump. Is Kasich up to that?

No.

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:42:47am

re: #363 Anymouse ??

It’s interesting to read people’s thinking on who they might think would make the best presidential candidate. I’m still learning about various people and their positions, so I don’t have a clear choice. That said, a bowl of rocks would be better than what we have now.

As for my surname based on that website, I think LGF needs to declare me an endangered species.

910,956th
Most Common
Surname in the World

Approximately 290 people bear this surname
Most prevalent in:
United States
Highest density in:
Australia

Got you beat!

Mine is 1,108,364.* most common surname in the world.

*with conditions, as I have always suspected.

If you type my last name in the software it gives me choices based on some accents on either the ? or ? or no accents.

With the ? it goes right to Slovakia with 218 under incidence, but zero in the USA.

With no accent it is the 12,361st most common name with 45,919 listed under incidence.

What we were always told is the name is common but Americanized. I’ve seen sites like this before and if I use the non-accented spelling it comes up as all kinds of nationalities.

But I know I am 50% Slovakian. So, it obviously a pronunciation thing.

I’m going with the Slovakian pronunciation/spelling and the rarity. It’s cooler!

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:43:21am

re: #416 Charles Johnson

This part of a Vanity Fair article, September 1990.

Donald Trump appears to take aspects of his German background seriously. John Walter works for the Trump Organization, and when he visits Donald in his office, Ivana told a friend, he clicks his heels and says, “Heil Hitler,” possibly as a family joke.

Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler’s collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed. Kennedy now guards a copy of My New Order in a closet at his office, as if it were a grenade. Hitler’s speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist.

“Did your cousin John give you the Hitler speeches?” I asked Trump.

Trump hesitated. “Who told you that?”

Edit for date of article

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:43:32am

re: #445 Joe Bacon ??

No.

Unless the GOP donor class abandons Trump — but even that won’t be sufficient; the Trump base worships him with a single-minded devotion.

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jeffreyw  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:43:53am


Cheesesteak - flatiron steak with onions and cheese sauce on an onion roll
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Charles Johnson  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:46:02am
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Belafon  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:47:20am

re: #411 FormerDirtDart ????

Football in Kansas City this afternoon

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And it’s raining in LA where the Rams and Cowboys will play.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:48:21am

OMG

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:48:50am

re: #447 Eventual Carrion

This part of a Vanity Fair article.

It wasn’t his cousin John; it was a friend Marty Davis who gave him the book of Hitler speeches. At that time he may actually have read material from the books — today, it’s difficult to think that he would read anything longer than a page.

forward.com

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:48:54am

re: #389 Dave In Austin

What do you think of Kasich? He’s running. I’m sure of that.

Could be as an independent. He has threatened that.

But he is arrogant enough to go right at Trump. Since he was last man standing in 2016 and as much trouble and dislike Trump has going on.

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:49:46am

re: #390 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I got ya beat. I’m at 1,034,354th. Only 241 have my surname.

Hey…we are close in rarity.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:50:13am

re: #454 ObserverArt

Could be as an independent. He has threatened that.

But he is arrogant enough to go right at Trump. Since he was last man standing in 2016 and as much trouble and dislike Trump has going on.

But does he have the financial resources to challenge Trump?

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:51:58am

re: #451 Belafon

And it’s raining in LA where the Rams and Cowboys will play.

Football outside in January
As the gods intended

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Belafon  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:52:38am

re: #452 Myron Falwell

OMG

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She qualified with the word honest. That’s probably a short list.

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:54:03am

re: #393 Anymouse ??

Kasich is no moderate (MSNBC)

(more, with his positions)

I don’t think too many think of Kasich as a moderate here at LGF.

BeachDem and I try to make sure that doesn’t occur.

He just likes to sell himself as one and the comparisons with Trump allow many people to think that, especially among the GOP party members and the media.

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wrenchwench  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:55:59am

Russian oligarchs (and oligarchs from elsewhere also, I think) used the US weaknesses of rampant racism and sexism against the US in order to get their stooge elected. The Republican Party provided good soil for the oligarchs to work in. It only needed to be fertilized with a few billion dollars. Cheap!

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2019 • 11:58:50am

re: #411 FormerDirtDart ????

Football in Kansas City this afternoon

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So, we may get a snow game or two. KC today, New England tomorrow. That always makes for some fun. But a lot of people hate weather games.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:02:03pm

re: #461 ObserverArt

Philly is getting the snow tonight into tomorrow. 1-2 inches max.
forecast.weather.gov

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MsJ  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:05:45pm

For those of you hoping to have a republican challenger, many states Republican parties are doing away with (or trying) primaries to make sure that doesn’t happen.

Very democratic.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:08:14pm

ummm….

The wall can be built for money, postponed in case of natural disasters. The bill left 13.9 billion dollars of unrealized budget. I think of them will be easy to allocate funding for the construction of the border wall ?? without Democrats @realDonaldTrump ??

(twitter translation)

Artem Klyushin is supposedly a Russian billionaire who claims he put trump in the White House.
tweeted from Dubai, United Arab Emirates…

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:08:33pm

re: #404 Hecuba’s daughter

Compared to either Trump or Pence, Kasich is a model of probity, thoughtfulness, and progress. He also comes across as sympathetic to immigrants.

You really need to learn more about Kasich!

He has some pluses on immigration. He can be progressive to some degree. But when he turns into a raging asshole thoughtfulness goes right out the door.

Probity…that needs a long discussion. His character and morality, etc., is moderated by what he wants to get. He can be a snake and a liar. He can be mean.

And in a lot of ways he can be Pence, just way smarter and more cunning. He can be deceitful.

I’ve followed Kasich since he entered Ohio politics. Living in Columbus you can’t get away from him.

Do we need to give you more proof? There are videos. Many have been posted here by me and BeachDem. And read what ‘mouse posted about him.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:09:35pm

re: #430 HappyWarrior

When Trump is your standard bearer, you don’t get to complain about being accused of racism, conservatives. Obviously not every conservative is a racist but nearly every conservative has an ugly indifference to racism and its effects.

Lets face it, the GOP is now a fascist party. They have given up on Democracy and are openly calling on Trump to rule by decree, something Matthew Yglesias predicted even before Trump was nominated for President. Racial or ethnic nationalism is a core element of fascism, and its going to be exceedingly difficult for the GOP to wrench itself away from that to reform itself into a party based on conservative principles instead of white nationalism.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:11:14pm

re: #455 ObserverArt

Hey…we are close in rarity.

My younger kid just commented that our rarity make us elite.

So, now I’ve got east coast, liberal, rare surname, post graduate education…. going for me in the elitist category.

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jeffreyw  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:12:28pm

re: #462 PhillyPretzel

We got 5 or 6 inches of heavy wet snow overnight.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:13:44pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:14:19pm

re: #468 jeffreyw

The cat is thinking what happened last night? What is all this white frozen stuff?

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:14:53pm

re: #427 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson ?
@Green_Footballs
Replying to @Green_Footballs
“The left has wrongly tarred conservatives as racists for decades.”

LOL. Please.

Anyone else get the feeling the New York Times is at the very least racially insensitive? Maybe some racism in some of the people in charge and ownership. They seem to have some big blind spots and are excusing of it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:16:12pm

re: #470 PhillyPretzel

The cat is thinking what happened last night? What is all this white frozen stuff?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:18:02pm

speaking of BBD’s trolling the other day:

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Charles Johnson  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:18:47pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:19:56pm

re: #452 Myron Falwell

OMG

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I don’t like Conway, Wilson or Nichols.

But it is damn fun watching them have to chew on each other. I hope they all get some hard lessons.

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:22:41pm

re: #456 Hecuba’s daughter

But does he have the financial resources to challenge Trump?

Yes. He already has big backers.

And I suspect there are a lot of Republican money people that would throw in behind him because of Trump, even as an independent.

Maybe he could call it The Never Trump party. TNT!

They seem to have a few members.

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:24:29pm

re: #462 PhillyPretzel

Philly is getting the snow tonight into tomorrow. 1-2 inches max.
forecast.weather.gov

The game is in New Orleans, indoors. The Eagles might have liked to have it at home in the snow.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:24:31pm
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Ace-o-aces  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:28:42pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:29:41pm
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retired cynic  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:30:31pm

re: #468 jeffreyw

We have had over 10 inches, and it is melting underneath. Still coming down heavily. Birds are sure working the feeders! (The blocks around the feeders are completely covered.) And the snow is up over my boots….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:31:42pm
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Myron Falwell  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:33:33pm

re: #475 ObserverArt

I don’t like Conway, Wilson or Nichols.

But it is damn fun watching them have to chew on each other. I hope they all get some hard lessons.

I’m totally fine with Wilson and Nichols chewing on her — and others like her who will never ever learn. They at least have a degree of self-awareness.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:33:35pm

re: #482 Backwoods_Sleuth

Impressive? Come on. A 0:3 K:D ratio will get you kicked off of most professional e-sports teams.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:33:56pm
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re: #469 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Off to a good start Julian.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:35:04pm

re: #480 Backwoods_Sleuth

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She should run.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:39:52pm

a short phone update. today was corral c dopey half marathon

18000 people and we missed each other so I was on my own.

went to my assigned corral near the front and was off less than 15 min after the gun

a good deal warmer so the pre standing around was easier. and I got to run in shorts

tossed my shirt at mile 4 and then had a pleasant ‘normal’ Florida run

turned in a solid performance given i flew the races the last 2 days and the full mary is on for tomorrow.

I got a shout out from the announcer at the finish line. (tech - they know who you are and where you are)

and it’s nice having mrs dm at the finish. no we don’t hug. I’m all soggy and drippy….

so 3 down and pounded just half the miles

for me these 4 days are all about the run. race, recovery, eating, resting.

for a lot of folks its only race and eating plus Orlando!!! and Disney/epcot!!!! and all that. thats an impressive load. of course a lot only do one race. certainly though some dopey people are in the parks.

looking forward to another bowl of pasta and then the main event. 4 days of this is a marathon in itself and quite enough.

meanwhile, ‘someone’ mentioned a 50k race. I wouldnt say no, and I’m not saying yes….yet.

next update will be from the other side.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:41:37pm

re: #421 HappyWarrior

It was too late the second Trump became a front runner or even when Romney was the nominee.

They were nurturing those seeds when Goldwater was their candidate.

re: #427 Charles Johnson

LOL, what? Damn the Post is really trying to both-siderise this Steve King issue.

How quickly they forgot Lee Atwater.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:43:06pm
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retired cynic  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:43:32pm

re: #487 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

We are all so proud of you, and of klys, too. I’m finding my thigh muscles strained enough just hiking through the snow to feed the horses, cats and birds! The thought of running makes me want to lay down. Of course, I had a cortisone cervical epidural yesterday, and am still feeling the effects of that.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:43:36pm

re: #488 Anymouse ??

They were nurturing those seeds when Goldwater was their candidate.

LOL, what? Damn the Post is really trying to both-siderise this Steve King issue.

How quickly they forgot Lee Atwater.

Is this the Post or an oped writer writing in the Post? You’re right about Goldwater. He doesn’t get enough scorn and Atwater goes without saying.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:44:39pm

re: #489 Anymouse ??

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There are laws for us and then there are laws for cops.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:44:47pm

re: #460 wrenchwench

Russian oligarchs (and oligarchs from elsewhere also, I think) used the US weaknesses of rampant racism and sexism against the US in order to get their stooge elected. The Republican Party provided good soil for the oligarchs to work in. It only needed to be fertilized with a few billion dollars. Cheap!

Russian opponents were consciously feeding off American racism long before they founded Patrice Lumumba University in the early ’60s. They’ve changed their letterhead, not their strategy.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:45:25pm

re: #487 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

a short phone update. today was corral c dopey half marathon

18000 people and we missed each other so I was on my own.

went to my assigned corral near the front and was off less than 15 min after the gun

a good deal warmer so the pre standing around was easier. and I got to run in shorts

tossed my shirt at mile 4 and then had a pleasant ‘normal’ Florida run

turned in a solid performance given i flew the races the last 2 days and the full mary is on for tomorrow.

I got a shout out from the announcer at the finish line. (tech - they know who you are and where you are)

and it’s nice having mrs dm at the finish. no we don’t hug. I’m all soggy and drippy….

so 3 down and pounded just half the miles

for me these 4 days are all about the run. race, recovery, eating, resting.

for a lot of folks its only race and eating plus Orlando!!! and Disney/epcot!!!! and all that. thats an impressive load. of course a lot only do one race. certainly though some dopey people are in the parks.

looking forward to another bowl of pasta and then the main event. 4 days of this is a marathon in itself and quite enough.

meanwhile, ‘someone’ mentioned a 50k race. I wouldnt say no, and I’m not saying yes….yet.

next update will be from the other side.

Woot. Keep it up.

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:45:27pm

re: #479 Ace-o-aces

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Good use of my Photoshop. I love them to get around.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:51:43pm

re: #188 HappyWarrior

I still really like Biden. I think I may move him to where I have Terry Mac and Delaney. Someone I don’t really dislike but don’t really want either.

Biden is not going to fare well over questions about how he mangled the Anita Hill hearings….along with some other #metoo anecdotes.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:52:25pm

re: #496 Scottish Dragon

Biden is not going to fare well over questions about how he mangled the Anti Hill hearings….along with some other #metoo anecdotes.

Yes. Very true.

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ObserverArt  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:53:06pm

re: #489 Anymouse ??

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Grrrrr. Even 3-6 years wasn’t enough. 6 months??? Screw that.

We need a complete revamping of policing in this country. Too much a privileged club and too protected by politicians, mostly conservative.

They forget they work for us not for themselves.

Maybe Castro can address that in his run. It seems to be a topic no one ever wants to touch. That’s a good example of the power they have. Untouchable.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:53:24pm

re: #491 HappyWarrior

Is this the Post or an oped writer writing in the Post? You’re right about Goldwater. He doesn’t get enough scorn and Atwater goes without saying.

It’s an opinion piece by Henry Olsen, author of “The Working Class Republican: Ronald Reagan and the Return of Blue-Collar Conservatism” and a fellow at the Ethics and Public Center.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:56:31pm

re: #499 Anymouse ??

It’s an opinion piece by Henry Olsen, author of “The Working Class Republican: Ronald Reagan and the Return of Blue-Collar Conservatism” and a fellow at the Ethics and Public Center.

Right so it’s not the official opinion of the Post. I’m not saying they should have published it but it’s didfe than the editorial page expressing this view. And Reagan as blue collar is hilarious. The guy was an elite.

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fern01  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:58:19pm

re: #251 Teddy’s Person

This has probable already been seen around these parts but holy shit. This is a picture of the table during a cabinet meeting Trump held the beginning of the month.

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His neediness knows no bounds.

And his defensiveness - Sitting back with hands folded when he is supposedly with “friends” - weirdest picture of the happy crew.

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TedStriker  Jan 12, 2019 • 12:58:32pm

re: #484 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Impressive? Come on. A 0:3 K:D ratio will get you kicked off of most professional e-sports teams.

Sounds like my K/D record…

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 12, 2019 • 1:01:15pm

re: #482 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Myron Falwell  Jan 12, 2019 • 1:05:35pm

re: #482 Backwoods_Sleuth

So the actress who played Buffy Summers had a uncle named Army that got blown up and died three times because of a cartel tunnel.

Oooooookay then.

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geosherman  Jan 12, 2019 • 1:47:14pm

Rainy day here in SoCal and to muddy to ride or hike. To fill my time I watched Icarus on Netflix. Well worth your time - the scenes with Putin (mostly 2015 and 2016 ) reverberate in ways that make our present situation just a notch scarier… The references to 1984 make me want to re-read the book as an adult instead of the high school student I was when I read it.
Here is a synopsis from IMDB:
Filmmaker and avid amateur cyclist Bryan Fogel decides to make a documentary on how easy it is to get away with doping in sport. He sets out to take illegal performance-enhancing substances, improve his cycling performance and show that the substances are undetectable. His task leads him to Grigory Rodchenkov, the head of the Russian anti-doping laboratory. Little does Fogel realize at the time but he is about to be involved in, and a chronicler of, sport’s greatest ever doping scandal, as details are revealed of Russia’s systemic, widespread, government-sponsored doping program.


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