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Dec. 12, 2018 | Bobby Carter — It’s been said that you only get one chance to make a first impression. In H.E.R.’s case, you get two. She stunned us as a special guest for Daniel Ceasar’s Tiny Desk concert earlier this year, in an appearance that showcased her vocal mastery. That earned her an invite to play again, front-and-center. She attacked her second go ‘round with more fervor than the first, highlighting her skills as a multi-instrumentalist, maneuvering between acoustic and electric guitars, then the Fender Rhodes.

While H.E.R. stands for “Having Everything Revealed,” she’s an artist who’s built her reputation on a certain degree of anonymity. The cover art for her debut, 2016 EP, H.E.R. Volume 1, shows a woman’s silhouette over a blue backdrop. Her visuals never provide the audience a clear shot of her face and her signature accessory for every outfit is a pair of large, dark sunglasses.

As fans collectively squinted to get a better view, she delivered more projects. Another EP, H.E.R. Vol 2, came in 2017, followed months later by H.E.R. which combined songs from both volumes with a handful of new songs. The latter earned her five nominations for 2019’s Grammy Awards, including Album Of The Year and Best New Artist Of The Year. She was born Gabriella Wilson to a Filipino mother and Black father. She first attracted the spotlight as a child prodigy, eventually signing a record contract when she was 14-years old. At 21, she’s yet to release her debut LP.

There were two standout moments during her Tiny Desk set. One came at the midway point of her biggest hit so far, “Focus.” When the instruments dropped out and background vocalists Ajanee Hambrick and Malik Spence chimed in with their lush harmonies, the audience melted. The second came when her focus was interrupted by a charming and sincere expression of gratitude for the Tiny Desk platform. For a split second it appears as though she’s about to remove those sunglasses. “Not saying that I’m your favorite artist, but maybe me being here today says a lot.”

Set List
“Going” (Interlude)
“Feel A Way”
“Hard Place”
“Focus”

Credits
Producers: Bobby Carter, Morgan Noelle Smith; Creative Director: Bob Boilen; Audio Engineer: Josh Rogosin; Videographers: Morgan Noelle Smith, Kaylee Domzalski, Maia Stern, Bronson Arcuri; Editor: Kaylee Domzalski; Production Assistant: Brie Martin; Photo: Cameron Pollack/NPR

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Myron Falwell  Jan 13, 2019 • 9:19:47pm

Although it turns out that the column didn’t just run in vdare. Pat Buchanan apparently still has a syndicated newspaper column, why any self-respecting paper would want to run it is beyond me.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 13, 2019 • 9:26:23pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jan 13, 2019 • 9:39:03pm
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ipsos  Jan 13, 2019 • 9:52:52pm

So before I go upstairs and scream into my pillow for half an hour about the state of the world as I try to fall asleep… lemme get this straight:

1) Top GOP leaders had to go on the Sunday gasbag shows this morning to say that Steve King’s “what’s wrong with white supremacy?” garbage was unacceptable (albeit not SO unacceptable that they actually have to take any real action about it)…

and

2) Within 10 hours, their president and the nominal leader of whatever’s left of their party was on Twitter spewing horribly racist stereotypes at a potential challenger in 2020, then retweeting Pat Fucking Buchanan from V Fucking Dare?

And this is normal now, right?

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 13, 2019 • 9:57:07pm
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 13, 2019 • 10:01:31pm

I posted this downstairs, just in time for a new thread. I found this profile about Katelyn Ohashi, the incredible UCLA gymnast. It’s about her comeback from major surgery and disillusionment about elite gymnastics.

lennyletter.com

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 13, 2019 • 10:32:00pm

re: #5 goddamnedfrank

This is what happens when America farms out it’s innovation to Asia… not-so-smart appliances.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 13, 2019 • 10:48:02pm
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Scout  Jan 13, 2019 • 10:58:30pm

I wish the government here would have locked her up and thrown away the key.
From The Japan Times:
American woman brings pistol and bullets onto U.S.-Japan flight

The last thing we want is a bunch of armed idiots running around.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 13, 2019 • 11:00:57pm

re: #7 Single-handed sailor

This is what happens when America farms out it’s innovation to Asia… not-so-smart appliances.

I hate to break it to you but it’s kind of a stereotypical cop out to dismiss Asian innovation, the harsh truth is that America just wasn’t that creative to begin with.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 13, 2019 • 11:13:08pm
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freetoken  Jan 13, 2019 • 11:14:20pm

re: #8 Single-handed sailor

Politico states “the threat at the US-Mexico border..” as if there really is a threat from Mexico.

The threat at the border is when Trump goes to visit it.

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freetoken  Jan 13, 2019 • 11:17:51pm

Me, being a bit of a hermit and not watching regular television (I only view what I want, on demand), I missed this bit of diversion from ABC:

Truth & Lies: Monica and Bill

Journalists look into the other side of Bill Clinton; Bill Clinton’s and Monica Lewinsky’s worlds overlap

America is being pushed into crisis by malevolent Donald Trump, and ABC has to run a show on Bill Clinton’s adultery just because.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 13, 2019 • 11:20:13pm
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Scout  Jan 13, 2019 • 11:20:58pm

re: #11 goddamnedfrank

I don’t even care about the dog. I’m more amazed Rainier beer still exists.

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Kilroy was here  Jan 13, 2019 • 11:23:08pm

re: #15 Scout

I don’t even care about the dog. I’m more amazed Rainier beer still exists.

Motorcycle

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Scout  Jan 13, 2019 • 11:23:56pm

re: #16 Kilroy was here

A classic!

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Scout  Jan 13, 2019 • 11:26:14pm

re: #16 Kilroy was here

Their commercials with Mickey Rooney were likewise great. The one with the Husky football coach, Jim Owens, is one of my all-time favorites.

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Kilroy was here  Jan 13, 2019 • 11:27:03pm

Favorite beer Commercial - damn funny if you have ever traveled from Cali to Oregon

The most “Oregon” commercial ever made: Blitz Weinhard

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 13, 2019 • 11:30:12pm

re: #15 Scout

I don’t even care about the dog. I’m more amazed Rainier beer still exists.

Me too, we used to ‘shotgun’ cans of Rainier Ale talls in high school in 1972.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 13, 2019 • 11:31:12pm

re: #15 Scout

I don’t even care about the dog. I’m more amazed Rainier beer still exists.

Strictly speaking, it doesn’t. I mean, listen, like you I grew up in the Northwest. I went to elementary school in Federal Way, moved to Redmond and graduated high school from RHS and got my B.A. in Comp Lit from the UW. So when I tell you that Rainier and Olympia are dead and their corpses have been turned into modern corporate zombies you’ll understand the cultural significance.

In the late 1990s, the company was sold to Stroh’s, then to Pabst Brewing Company, though Miller contract brews most of Pabst’s beers. The brewery was closed by Pabst in 1999 and sold.

In 1977 the brewery was sold to G. Heileman Brewing Company, and passed through several more hands before finally winding up owned by Pabst, which closed it in 1999. The Rainier brand was sold to General Brewing Company, which moved production to the Olympia brewery in nearby Tumwater, Washington. The Olympia Brewing Company closed in 2003. Rainier Beer is now brewed under contract in Irwindale, California.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 13, 2019 • 11:36:00pm
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Scout  Jan 13, 2019 • 11:37:22pm
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TedStriker  Jan 13, 2019 • 11:37:52pm

re: #22 Single-handed sailor

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Well, DUHHHHH!

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Scout  Jan 13, 2019 • 11:44:32pm

re: #21 goddamnedfrank

I can still remember when I was a little kid in the late 1960s in Port Angeles, our next-door neighbor would come over every so often in the afternoon, and she and my mom would have a couple Olympia beers at the kitchen table.

I can still picture the label with the waterfall illustration.

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sagehen  Jan 13, 2019 • 11:47:51pm

re: #4 ipsos

So before I go upstairs and scream into my pillow for half an hour about the state of the world as I try to fall asleep… lemme get this straight:

And this is normal now, right?

Remember when we thought 2016 was the most horrible possible year and when it ended we said whew, things have to get better?

We were so young and innocent.

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sagehen  Jan 13, 2019 • 11:51:25pm

re: #6 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I posted this downstairs, just in time for a new thread. I found this profile about Katelyn Ohashi, the incredible UCLA gymnast. It’s about her comeback from major surgery and disillusionment about elite gymnastics.

lennyletter.com

The included video of her Michael Jackson routine… it’s adorable how her whole team off to the side are doing the dance moves along with her…

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 13, 2019 • 11:57:25pm
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The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:15:16am

re: #28 Single-handed sailor

HAHAHAHA

Ronald Reagan

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:39:06am

He’s such a good butt-hole licker.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:46:40am
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Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2019 • 1:02:17am

re: #31 Single-handed sailor

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 14, 2019 • 1:33:07am

re: #5 goddamnedfrank

Samsung’s new fridge will ping your phone if you leave the door open

Say what you want, but the Internet of Things can be a right useful development.

(I made this comment before reading the rest of the post, you are right it is, like everything else we do, 90% useless crap)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 14, 2019 • 1:35:04am

re: #7 Single-handed sailor

This is what happens when America farms out it’s innovation to Asia… not-so-smart appliances.

I assume because its easier to build in pinging software than door-closing hardware.

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Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2019 • 1:35:17am

I’ll settle for a fridge that yells “OI! PRICK! YOU LEFT ME OPEN!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 14, 2019 • 1:39:09am

Next; bread wrappers that ping your phone when you leave them open.

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freetoken  Jan 14, 2019 • 1:50:25am
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freetoken  Jan 14, 2019 • 2:05:39am

We’re under a flash flood watch here in the very corner of the country.

Lots of swirls in the water vapor image:

This has so far been a far wetter winter than the past few years. The loquats are finally happy, putting out new leaves. But we’re going to get very doused with that “plume” of water vapor heading our way… I think I’ll stay inside till Tuesday.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 14, 2019 • 2:29:39am

re: #38 freetoken

We’re under a flash flood watch here in the very corner of the country.

Lots of swirls in the water vapor image:

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This has so far been a far wetter winter than the past few years. The loquats are finally happy, putting out new leaves. But we’re going to get very doused with that “plume” of water vapor heading our way… I think I’ll stay inside till Tuesday.

It’s been pretty dry in the Bay Area. My gauge is at 7.87”, and the county gauge down the street shows 7.15”. It’s looking like a drought year in the north.

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freetoken  Jan 14, 2019 • 2:52:39am

When winter comes I always feel like I need to hibernate.

I should have been a bear, or at least a groundhog.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 14, 2019 • 3:07:51am

re: #40 freetoken

When winter comes I always feel like I need to hibernate.

I should have been a bear, or at least a groundhog.

you are just a human, but that is also our natural state, minimal energy, maximum sleep

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2019 • 3:34:45am
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freetoken  Jan 14, 2019 • 3:35:07am

re: #41 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I’m really good at the “minimal energy” part.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 14, 2019 • 3:36:44am

re: #43 freetoken

I’m really good at the “minimal energy” part.

It is the time of year when I give in to the urge to take that nap or roll over and sleep in a bit longer.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2019 • 3:36:52am

thread

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 14, 2019 • 3:39:34am

What’s so bad about anti-Semitism and Hitler? Really, these PC folks are going too far, besides, the Democrats use dirty words.

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2019 • 3:39:41am

NINE FAMILY BIBLES

good fucking grief

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freetoken  Jan 14, 2019 • 3:43:07am

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nine times as godly, yes?

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 14, 2019 • 3:44:47am

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

Seems like overkill. And I’m not sure Jesus would approve of such empty religious gestures.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2019 • 3:47:27am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2019 • 3:51:19am

another Brexit thread starts with this:

ends with this:

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freetoken  Jan 14, 2019 • 3:51:46am

re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth

There is still a year before it all unravels. After 30 March, there is still until 2020 as the EU and the UK operate on the old relationship.

The “transition period” is still a period, even if the transition turns out to be a step function.

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freetoken  Jan 14, 2019 • 3:57:32am

Isle of Wight MP getting all up and dramatic:

MPs voting down May’s Brexit deal are the elite revolting against democracy

Residents of the UK chose to make this particular bed, and now they don’t want to lay in it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 14, 2019 • 4:00:26am

re: #53 freetoken

Isle of Wight MP getting all up and dramatic:

MPs voting down May’s Brexit deal are the elite revolting against democracy

Residents of the UK chose to make this particular bed, and now they don’t want to lay in it.

They realize too late that they were duped by this same elite

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freetoken  Jan 14, 2019 • 4:04:45am

re: #54 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They realize too late that they were duped by this same elite

The UK voters were duped by the same nationalists and their backers who are backing the surge of right-wing nationalism in other areas, including Trumpism.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2019 • 4:04:54am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 14, 2019 • 4:07:08am

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

Today was the day the president called the National Enquirer a better newspaper than the Washington Post.

By his standards, yes, “better” = more loyal and supportive

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Teukka  Jan 14, 2019 • 4:18:24am
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freetoken  Jan 14, 2019 • 4:19:34am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2019 • 4:36:38am

moron is awake

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2019 • 4:39:49am

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is awake

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missing tweet was something about addressing some farm group in Nashville and how much he loves farmers

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2019 • 4:44:36am

re: #61 Backwoods_Sleuth

missing tweet was something about addressing some farm group in Nashville and how much he loves farmers

ah…the Farm Bureau convention is in New Orleans, not Nashville.

moron

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2019 • 4:45:55am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2019 • 4:47:53am

sure thing, Jan…

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Mike Lamb  Jan 14, 2019 • 5:13:55am

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

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sure thing, Jan…

Global energy markets…item eleventy billion that douche bag doesn’t understand.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 5:14:38am

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

But this is bad news for Russia, why would President Trump do such a thing? Thought he worked for Kremlin?

Lol didn’t George Papadopoulos try the same strategy of direct Twitter self-incrimination?

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 14, 2019 • 5:17:17am

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

I am getting really tired of him live tweeting F&F every morning. I’m so old I remember when presidents began their mornings with a morning walk or run or workout, and a bunch of morning briefings, so they’d be, like, knowledgeable and stuff.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 14, 2019 • 5:24:10am

re: #66 Myron Falwell

Lol didn’t George Papadopoulos try the same strategy of direct Twitter self-incrimination?

I also like referring to oneself in third person.

Reminds me of Rudolf Hesse’s letters to the Allied leaders.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 5:24:22am

re: #67 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I am getting really tired of him live tweeting F&F every morning. I’m so old I remember when presidents began their mornings with a morning walk or run or workout, and a bunch of morning briefings, so they’d be, like, knowledgeable and stuff.

He’s not a president. He’s a hired goon… and a flaming racist.

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freetoken  Jan 14, 2019 • 5:26:20am

I wonder how Trump will spin this about the evils of California.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 5:30:15am

re: #70 freetoken

I wonder how Trump will spin this about the evils of California.

Something some rake harder something something

Meanwhile, this is interesting:

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 14, 2019 • 5:39:57am

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jeffreyw  Jan 14, 2019 • 5:49:07am


Good morning! Can anyone ID this bird?
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 14, 2019 • 5:51:08am

re: #73 jeffreyw

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Good morning! Can anyone ID this bird?

yellow-bellied sapsucker?

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fern01  Jan 14, 2019 • 5:53:52am

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

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NINE FAMILY BIBLES

good fucking grief

I’ve got 4 - and the spouse and I are atheists. No-one else in the family wanted them & I can’t bring myself to throw them out. Probably the same thing with the new Governor - with the exception that he doesn’t want to throw them out. Will never understand why the wives put up with this nonsense.

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freetoken  Jan 14, 2019 • 5:54:19am

re: #73 jeffreyw

This could be it:

allaboutbirds.org

but seems to be missing the dark feathers on the chest.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 14, 2019 • 5:58:19am

re: #75 fern01

I’ve got 4 - and the spouse and I are atheists. No-one else in the family wanted them & I can’t bring myself to throw them out. Probably the same thing with the new Governor - with the exception that he doesn’t want to throw them out. Will never understand why the wives put up with this nonsense.

Remember that family bibles also used to contain written information about births and deaths in the family, that is the sort of thing that makes them terribly valuable and useful

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 14, 2019 • 5:58:25am
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fern01  Jan 14, 2019 • 5:59:44am

re: #67 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I am getting really tired of him live tweeting F&F every morning. I’m so old I remember when presidents began their mornings with a morning walk or run or workout, and a bunch of morning briefings, so they’d be, like, knowledgeable and stuff.

F & Fs is his morning briefing. That’s where he gets his policy decisions.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 14, 2019 • 6:03:21am

re: #78 Patricia Kayden

President Trump invokes Wounded Knee Massacre while attacking Elizabeth Warren

He knows that his base hates native Americans and wish we had wiped them all out back when we had the chance…now those PC fascists would get all upset if we tried….

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lawhawk  Jan 14, 2019 • 6:04:04am

re: #28 Single-handed sailor

Trump’s wealth is a rounding error in the Bezos divorce proceedings.

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fern01  Jan 14, 2019 • 6:05:15am

re: #77 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember that family bibles also used to contain written information about births and deaths in the family, that is the sort of thing that makes them terribly valuable and useful

Two of mine do - one lists the family back to the late 1700s - the other much more recent.

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ipsos  Jan 14, 2019 • 6:06:28am

re: #73 jeffreyw

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Good morning! Can anyone ID this bird?

I think his name is Steve.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 14, 2019 • 6:07:31am

Loving Wunderground maps this morning

Turn the windstream on and check out the system approaching California.

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makeitstop  Jan 14, 2019 • 6:09:19am

re: #6 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I posted this downstairs, just in time for a new thread. I found this profile about Katelyn Ohashi, the incredible UCLA gymnast. It’s about her comeback from major surgery and disillusionment about elite gymnastics.

lennyletter.com

This routine…

Katelyn Ohashi 2018 Floor at PAC-12 Championships 9.950

It’s so cool how the rest of the team picks up certain gestures in the routine. At one point, they’re all doing it.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 6:09:59am

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

NINE FAMILY BIBLES

good fucking grief

It’s the DeWine family, of course they’d have nine bibles.

Mike DeWine is Mike Pence but with an actual bit of competence. So he’s worse.

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Kilroy was here  Jan 14, 2019 • 6:12:51am
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lawhawk  Jan 14, 2019 • 6:25:09am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

Trump’s boxed in a corner because he doesn’t know how to negotiate and he’s left with calling Democrats names and trying to blame everyone but himself for the shutdown he wanted.

Trump continues lying all throughout, because that’s what he does.

But let’s not kid ourselves. The wall and the shutdown are diversions from the torrent of news coming out about how Trump is a Russian potted plant. He’s trying to deny and deflect from bad news with other bad news. Don’t let that happen.

McConnell and Trump and the GOP are responsible for the shutdown - a shutdown Trump wanted, and McConnell is now giving cover for. McConnell skipped town this weekend rather than allow a vote on a clean CR that would easily pass. Why would he refuse to hold the vote? Easy. A vote would embarrass Trump because he’d have to veto the bill to reopen government. And there’s the possibility that they could get enough votes to override the veto, which would be rolling an 18 wheeler back and forth over Trump’s final 2 years.

McConnell is more concerned about propping up Trump than doing his job of legislating and governing. It’s about sabotaging functioning government. That’s the common shared goal.

So as the news continues dropping more confirmation of the Russia-Trump connections, which we had glimpses of in 2015/2016, Trump and the GOP continue trying to deflect and project.

Do not let them - and hold the media accountable as well. Multitask - because that’s what we have to do to keep up with the stream of steaming skunk stew coming from Trumpworld.

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Belafon  Jan 14, 2019 • 6:27:04am

re: #5 goddamnedfrank

Do you really want a fridge that can close the door on its own?

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jeffreyw  Jan 14, 2019 • 6:30:26am

re: #76 freetoken

I looked at the meadowlark as a candidate but the black V on the chest is absent. I don’t see a picture of a female meadowlark online, there are usually sex differences in the colors and markings. I’m too lazy to find my Sibley this morning but I may drag it out.

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Citizen K  Jan 14, 2019 • 6:30:43am

re: #89 Belafon

Do you really want a fridge that can close the door on its own?

“I think I’ll have a drin-“
“I can’t let you do that, Dave.”
“….really, again? One, my name isn’t Dave, and two, I was just getting milk.”
“You said that the last 17 times you reached for the Pepsi, Dave.”

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freetoken  Jan 14, 2019 • 6:31:38am

re: #90 jeffreyw

Juveniles can have different markings too.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 6:32:23am

You’d think they would have come up with a better narrative than, “but it didn’t benefit Russia directly and we’re still spending on defense!” And you’d be wrong.

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Belafon  Jan 14, 2019 • 6:32:38am

re: #49 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Seems like overkill. And I’m not sure Jesus would approve of such empty religious gestures.

He’s stated that empty public gestures are wasted. “You’ve already gotten your reward by doing it in public.”

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jeffreyw  Jan 14, 2019 • 6:32:54am

re: #83 ipsos

I think his name is Steve.

I think it’s Dave, but when I asked I was told that Dave is not here, man.

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Belafon  Jan 14, 2019 • 6:37:02am

re: #75 fern01

I’ve got 4 - and the spouse and I are atheists. No-one else in the family wanted them & I can’t bring myself to throw them out. Probably the same thing with the new Governor - with the exception that he doesn’t want to throw them out. Will never understand why the wives put up with this nonsense.

My wife is the one that collects all that stuff. I would throw them all out if I could.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 14, 2019 • 6:37:21am

Trump’s pal Xi Jinping is playing hardball with Canada. China’s a bit miffed that Canada extradited their citizen to the USA.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 6:39:49am

re: #93 Myron Falwell

You’d think they would have come up with a better narrative than, “but it didn’t benefit Russia directly and we’re still spending on defense!” And you’d be wrong.

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If he didn’t go out of his way to speak Putin’s points maybe I’d see the skepticism. What American president attacks Montenegro. What POTUS disparages NATO. This is pathetic. And Hewitt knows it.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 14, 2019 • 6:41:16am

re: #83 ipsos

I think his name is Steve.

I was gonna say Bill.

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Belafon  Jan 14, 2019 • 6:41:26am

re: #97 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Trump’s pal Xi Jinping is playing hardball with Canada. China’s a bit miffed that Canada extradited their citizen to the USA.

If we had a functioning government, we would side with Canada, withdraw our diplomats, and impose sanctions. Their economy is still shakier than ours. More damage caused by Trump’s ineffectiveness as leader.

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dirkdigglerjr  Jan 14, 2019 • 6:42:00am

re: #68 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I worked for someone for nearly 10 years who constantly would refer to herself in the third person during public and private meetings. “Can I have Extreme Narcissists for 800, please, Alex?”

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lawhawk  Jan 14, 2019 • 6:42:54am

re: #93 Myron Falwell

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jeffreyw  Jan 14, 2019 • 6:44:40am

re: #92 freetoken

Juveniles can have different markings too.

True, that.


I thought that it may be a red breasted nuthatch that is standing the reflected glow of sunlight off the wood of the feeder.
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 14, 2019 • 6:46:16am

re: #100 Belafon

If we had a functioning government, we would side with Canada, withdraw our diplomats, and impose sanctions. Their economy is still shakier than ours. More damage caused by Trump’s ineffectiveness as leader.

If we had a president who did not admire autocratic rulers, it would be possible. But Trump probably wishes deep down inside he could execute a few people right about now.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 14, 2019 • 6:52:24am

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

sure thing, Jan…

Faux and Fiends giving Donnie his boost for the day.

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lawhawk  Jan 14, 2019 • 6:53:20am

On a per capita basis, Trumpworld has committed a higher rate of felonies and crimes under federal law than illegal immigrants.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 14, 2019 • 6:54:38am

re: #106 lawhawk

On a per capita basis, Trumpworld has committed a higher rate of felonies and crimes under federal law than illegal immigrants.

And the number keeps going higher.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 14, 2019 • 6:59:10am

re: #105 Sir John Barron

Faux and Fiends giving Donnie his boost for the day.

Nothing beats a big rail of Adderall in the morning!
~D Trump

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Dave In Austin  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:02:12am

Man, is he ever off the rail. Man!

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Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:05:21am

Day 24 of the shutdown and Donny is busier dealing with the news story he thought he’d wiped off the news (Mueller) than actually addressing the “crisis” he says will cost more American lives every day if its not solved.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:05:50am

re: #106 lawhawk

On a per capita basis, Trumpworld has committed a higher rate of felonies and crimes under federal law than illegal immigrants.

And his supporters have murdered more people and subjected even more to terroristic acts like pipe bombs in the mail…

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:06:52am

re: #110 Targetpractice

Day 24 of the shutdown and Donny is busier dealing with the news story he thought he’d wiped off the news (Mueller) than actually addressing the “crisis” he says will cost more American lives every day if its not solved.

And he has to give a SOTU address in eight days. That’s a sure-fire disaster in the making.

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makeitstop  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:07:46am

Someone’s a little touchy this morning.

He does not sound healthy. At all.

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lawhawk  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:09:08am

re: #113 makeitstop

He didn’t work for Russia.

No. He probably thinks he worked with Russia. Or, they worked for him.

No matter the semantics here, the evidence is pointing to him conspiring against the United States with foreign agents from Russia to implement Russia’s agenda on foreign policy (the domestic chaos and sabotaging functioning government is a bonus).

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lawhawk  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:09:19am
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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:11:02am

re: #113 makeitstop

Someone’s a little touchy this morning.

He does not sound healthy. At all.

Too bad for him that he gave a non-answer to Ducklips when she offered it to him on a silver platter and let the whole thing unnecessarily fester for a full day.

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freetoken  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:12:08am

re: #115 lawhawk

AOC may not realize it, but some substantial fraction of those 700k people in NW Iowa agree with King. Thus, he truly is representing them.

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Alephnaught  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:13:01am

re: #93 Myron Falwell

You’d think they would have come up with a better narrative than, “but it didn’t benefit Russia directly and we’re still spending on defense!” And you’d be wrong.

Also, more military spending does not equal more antagonism against the Russians if the Commander in Chief is a Russian stooge.

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freetoken  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:14:22am

That’s the thing about representation by elections - those elected do indeed end up representing in some manner those who vote.

The reason Trump, King, etc. are where they are is because a non-trivial slice of the American electorate are bigots.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:15:34am

re: #117 freetoken

AOC may not realize it, but some substantial fraction of those 700k people in NW Iowa agree with King. Thus, he truly is representing them.

They keep on re-electing him.

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lawhawk  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:15:49am

re: #117 freetoken

AOC may not realize it, but some substantial fraction of those 700k people in NW Iowa agree with King. Thus, he truly is representing them.

Or she recognizes it - because she refers to ‘em as redwoods, not a seedling.

They’ve got a white nationalist problem. And it starts with the base that the leaders have conditioned to blame all their problems on nonwhites.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:16:04am

re: #119 freetoken

That’s the thing about representation by elections - those elected do indeed end up representing in some manner those who vote.

The reason Trump, King, etc. are where they are is because a non-trivial slice of the American electorate are bigots.

Indeed

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Sionainn, Fierce Mother  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:16:32am

re: #113 makeitstop

Someone’s a little touchy this morning.

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He does not sound healthy. At all.

When are we supposed to get the results of his yearly physical exam?

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Belafon  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:18:31am

re: #123 Sionainn, Fierce Mother

When are we supposed to get the results of his yearly physical exam?

When he finishes it.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:18:32am

re: #121 lawhawk

Or she recognizes it - because she refers to ‘em as redwoods, not a seedling.

They’ve got a white nationalist problem. And it starts with the base that the leaders have conditioned to blame all their problems on nonwhites.

Can’t get a job? Blame immigrants
Having a hard time paying for SS? Blame poor people in the cities on welfare
Your marriage is crumbling? Blame gays for ruining marriage
Your kid had to learn about other faiths in school? Bitch about political correctness.
The GOP leadership and base deserve each other’s collective miseries:

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:20:23am

re: #117 freetoken

AOC may not realize it, but some substantial fraction of those 700k people in NW Iowa agree with King. Thus, he truly is representing them.

There were enough of them for King to withstand a re-election challenge that was only a campaign due to the fact King didn’t even run a campaign at all.

What AOC is getting at is the fact, the sorry fact, that many people including the op-ed writer still believe that GOP can be saved from itself. Either it’s denial, or willful ignorance, or both, but the notion that this vein of white supremacism in the GOP can still be contained is too little, too late.

It doesn’t have to be rural Iowa, it applies to Vinton County, Ohio or any rural county in Mississippi. If they were offered a candidate like King, they’d vote for him because he’s not a Democrat. See Cindy Hyde-Smith.

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Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:21:04am

re: #114 lawhawk

He didn’t work for Russia.

No. He probably thinks he worked with Russia. Or, they worked for him.

No matter the semantics here, the evidence is pointing to him conspiring against the United States with foreign agents from Russia to implement Russia’s agenda on foreign policy (the domestic chaos and sabotaging functioning government is a bonus).

Given Donny’s various neuroses and mental imbalances, I’m convinced that the Russians have played to him by telling him he’s an equal partner to Vlad, that everything he’s doing is in America’s best interest, and he’ll be seen as the “Greatest President Ever” once the American people realize just how much “good” he’s done with Russia’s “help.”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:21:31am

Constantly coddlin them and telling them their values are the only right ones does this too. I’ve never seen prominent Democrats act like Republicans’ values were inferior to ours let alone unAmerican even though frankly a lot of their values are at odds with our values.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:21:56am

re: #126 Myron Falwell

There were enough of them for King to withstand a re-election challenge that was only a campaign due to the fact King didn’t even run a campaign at all.

What AOC is getting at is the fact, the sorry fact, that many people including the op-ed writer still believe that GOP can be saved from itself. Either it’s denial, or willful ignorance, or both, but the notion that this vein of white supremacism in the GOP can still be contained is too little, too late.

It doesn’t have to be rural Iowa, it applies to Vinton County, Ohio or any rural county in Mississippi. If they were offered a candidate like King, they’d vote for him because he’s not a Democrat. See Cindy Hyde-Smith.

Exactly

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:24:10am

edition-m.cnn.com
Terrible news from Poland guys. The mayor was a progressive champion of minority groups but those damn Muslims right? His politics don’t seem to be the reason but the nativists insist that only immigrants bring crime.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:26:15am
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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:30:40am

re: #130 HappyWarrior

edition-m.cnn.com
Terrible news from Poland guys. The mayor was a progressive champion of minority groups but those damn Muslims right? His politics don’t seem to be the reason but the nativists insist that only immigrants bring crime.

JFC. I had heard he was attacked but not that he passed. And it was at a children’s hospital fundraiser right out in the open.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:32:38am

re: #132 Myron Falwell

JFC. I had heard he was attacked but not that he passed. And it was at a children’s hospital fundraiser right out in the open.

Yeah awful stuff.

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Amory Blaine  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:35:47am

Paul nehlen was popular in Paul Ryan’s district until he started blabbing publicly about his Nazi crush.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:37:24am

re: #134 Amory Blaine

Paul nehlen was popular in Paul Ryan’s district until he started blabbing publicly about his Nazi crush.

Never go full Nazi man.//

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:38:42am

But it’s hilarious to me that guys like King continue to spout this shit and idiot right wing hacks continue to act like the Nazis were left wingers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:38:51am

re: #135 HappyWarrior

Never go full Nazi man.//

again, you can dogwhistle it all you want, jut don’t say it OUT LOUD

the 21st century version of The Love That Dare Not Speak its Name

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:40:24am

He’s just lying out his lying lie hole. It’s a day ending in “day”

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:41:17am

re: #134 Amory Blaine

Paul nehlen was popular in Paul Ryan’s district until he started blabbing publicly about his Nazi crush.

And Breitbart and Bannon backed him.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:43:15am

re: #137 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

again, you can dogwhistle it all you want, jut don’t say it OUT LOUD

the 21st century version of The Love That Dare Not Speak its Name

I never thought we’d reference Wilde and Tropic Thunder in the same thread here. :)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:43:45am

re: #138 The Vicious Babushka

He’s just lying out his lying lie hole. It’s a day ending in “day”

[Embedded content]

Yeah that’s bullshit Donny.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:44:52am

That food he’s talking about. They can get anywhere. What a cheap ass.

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Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:46:03am

re: #138 The Vicious Babushka

He’s just lying out his lying lie hole. It’s a day ending in “day”

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Wingnuts have been saying this shit for over a week now, that the Dems are “breaking.” They’re like Jacob Wohl, claiming that the Dems are secretly saying that they can’t win, that Trump’s right, and are looking to make a deal without Nancy or Chuck’s approval.

And yet, nobody else can find these Dems who are “breaking.” The furthest that the media has managed to get them to budge is saying that they support border security, but all universally continue to oppose a wall.

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:46:42am

Ain’t Wingnut Welfare Wonderful?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:47:36am

re: #140 HappyWarrior

I never thought we’d reference Wilde and Tropic Thunder in the same thread here. :)

it wraps around, so to speak, remember the faux film trailers in the intro to TT?

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Dave In Austin  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:50:25am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:51:11am

re: #144 Joe Bacon ??

Ain’t Wingnut Welfare Wonderful?

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And as ACO she pointed out that she’s trying to get a second apartment since she’s obviously keeping her old one in the Bronx. Candice really shouldn’t point fingers when she’s a subsidiary of a bunch of right wing old men old enough to be her gramps.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:51:46am

re: #138 The Vicious Babushka

He’s just lying out his lying lie hole. It’s a day ending in “day”

The disinformation ain’t working now, if it ever worked. It sounds increasingly like he has no way out of his own mess now, but just to stall, stall, stall.

And why in the F would the Clemson football team want a dinner like that shit?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:51:50am

re: #145 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

it wraps around, so to speak, remember the faux film trailers in the intro to TT?

Yeah I do. Some of the funniest stuff in the movie imo.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:52:15am

re: #148 Myron Falwell

The disinformation ain’t working now, if it ever worked. It sounds increasingly like he has no way out of his own mess now, but just to stall, stall, stall.

And why in the F would the Clemson football team want a dinner like that shit?

Seriously.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:53:27am

re: #149 HappyWarrior

Yeah I do. Some of the funniest stuff in the movie imo.

The first 20 minutes of that movie are some of the best comedy I have seen, but it drops off rapidly…

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:54:29am

re: #148 Myron Falwell

The disinformation ain’t working now, if it ever worked. It sounds increasingly like he has no way out of his own mess now, but just to stall, stall, stall.

And why in the F would the Clemson football team want a dinner like that shit?

Because it’s what Donnie is eating, take it or leave it.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:55:20am

re: #148 Myron Falwell

The disinformation ain’t working now, if it ever worked. It sounds increasingly like he has no way out of his own mess now, but just to stall, stall, stall.

And why in the F would the Clemson football team want a dinner like that shit?

They’re happy. They get Happy Meals.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:56:12am

re: #143 Targetpractice

Wingnuts have been saying this shit for over a week now, that the Dems are “breaking.” They’re like Jacob Wohl, claiming that the Dems are secretly saying that they can’t win, that Trump’s right, and are looking to make a deal without Nancy or Chuck’s approval.

And yet, nobody else can find these Dems who are “breaking.” The furthest that the media has managed to get them to budge is saying that they support border security, but all universally continue to oppose a wall.

They totally underestimated Speaker Pelosi and thought she and Sen. Schumer wouldn’t be as unified as they are against Trump’s wall. But they are unified and not yielding one iota, so the GOP and Trump flat out don’t know what to do.

That misunderestimating wouldn’t be the first time that’s happened, and definitely won’t be the last.

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Jay C  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:56:48am

re: #144 Joe Bacon ??

Ain’t Wingnut Welfare Wonderful?

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I also liked the subtext in that article regarding Candace Owens’ “cognitive impairment”: it basically highlights the extremely fine line between extreme political views and mental illness… mold notwithstanding.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:57:46am

Eternal glory to the Clemson player who takes a knee in the Rose Garden.

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dirkdigglerjr  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:58:10am

re: #151 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Kind of like the first 15 minutes of Raising Arizona or the 7-minute Alec Baldwin sequence in Glengarry Glen Ross. Not that the rest of either movie is bad, just not as overwhelmingly brilliant as these scenes.

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makeitstop  Jan 14, 2019 • 7:59:14am

re: #148 Myron Falwell

The disinformation ain’t working now, if it ever worked. It sounds increasingly like he has no way out of his own mess now, but just to stall, stall, stall.

I’ve been saying that for a while now. He’s gone to the well way too many times.

The Law of Diminishing Returns is doing its thing, and as a result he has to counter with more hysterical statements. And the more he does that, the more people tune him out.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:00:50am

re: #157 dirkdigglerjr

Kind of like the first 15 minutes of Raising Arizona or the 7-minute Alec Baldwin sequence in Glengarry Glen Ross. Not that the rest of either movie is bad, just not as overwhelmingly brilliant as these scenes.

Or as in the case of Pearl Harbor, the 40 minutes of the Pearl Harbor raid and the 20 minutes of the Doolittle raid are the only watchable parts of the entire dismal film.

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MsJ  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:04:09am

re: #53 freetoken

Isle of Wight MP getting all up and dramatic:

MPs voting down May’s Brexit deal are the elite revolting against democracy

Residents of the UK chose to make this particular bed, and now they don’t want to lay in it.

Or they do.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:07:46am

This shit cracks me up.

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162
lizardofid  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:11:00am

re: #161 Decatur Deb

This shit cracks me up.
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Liberal elites have demonstrated that they are willing to do anything to obstruct President Trump’s agenda for Making America Great Again. Donate $20 or more to get your shirt today to let President Trump know that you support his plans for the future.

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All that’s missing is the “BUT WAIT….THERE’S MORE!

Oh, and good morning everyone.

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Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:12:11am

re: #154 Myron Falwell

They totally underestimated Speaker Pelosi and thought she and Sen. Schumer wouldn’t be as unified as they are against Trump’s wall. But they are unified and not yielding one iota, so the GOP and Trump flat out don’t know what to do.

That misunderestimating wouldn’t be the first time that’s happened, and definitely won’t be the last.

The GOP game plan seems to have been “Put pressure on Schumer and he’ll crack like an egg.” Or, if that failed, put pressure on Senate Dems by suggesting that if they didn’t go along with “border security” then it would hurt them in 2020. But Chuck has stood fast and the Dems aren’t budging which has left the GOP with no Plan C.

It’ll be a week tomorrow since Donny gave his prime-time address, which Jared made the rounds on Capital Hill assuring shaky Repubs would change the whole balance of the shutdown. And the only things that have gone off balance are the polls which are cratering badly. I honestly give it another week of bad press before the Senate GOP start talking about a clean bill with “immigration reform” talks to immediately follow the reopening of the gov’t.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:13:06am

re: #158 makeitstop

I’ve been saying that for a while now. He’s gone to the well way too many times.

The Law of Diminishing Returns is doing its thing, and as a result he has to counter with more hysterical statements. And the more he does that, the more people tune him out.

Throw in his directly lifting a Pat Buchanan screed and upping the ante on Sen. Warren last night.

It’s now known that his support is starting to erode among the non-college crowd and nothing he’s doing is helping to turn that around. Not his speech on Tuesday, not the rumors of an emergency declaration, and most definitely not his increasingly shrill tweets.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:13:18am

re: #162 lizardofid

All that’s missing is the “BUT WAIT….THERE’S MORE!

Oh, and good morning everyone.

If I’m one of his top supporters, I expect a minor ambassadorship or an illuminated leg lamp.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:13:33am

re: #73 jeffreyw

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Good morning! Can anyone ID this bird?

That’s Bob. He and the wife and kids live down the street. Why, what did he do officer?

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ipsos  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:15:54am

re: #166 Eventual Carrion

That’s Bob. He and the wife and kids live down the street. Why, what did he do officer?

He was such a quiet bird. Always nice to the neighbor kids. The last bird you’d ever think you’d see accused of doing THAT.

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Belafon  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:16:53am

re: #156 Decatur Deb

Eternal glory to the Clemson player who takes a knee in the Rose Garden.

Here’s to hoping Nike and/or the Philadelphia Eagles sign that person.

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makeitstop  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:18:48am

re: #165 Decatur Deb

If I’m one of his top supporters, I expect a minor ambassadorship or an illuminated leg lamp.

I’ve heard that’s a very prestigious award.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:19:53am

re: #163 Targetpractice

The GOP game plan seems to have been “Put pressure on Schumer and he’ll crack like an egg.” Or, if that failed, put pressure on Senate Dems by suggesting that if they didn’t go along with “border security” then it would hurt them in 2020. But Chuck has stood fast and the Dems aren’t budging which has left the GOP with no Plan C.

It’ll be a week tomorrow since Donny gave his prime-time address, which Jared made the rounds on Capital Hill assuring shaky Repubs would change the whole balance of the shutdown. And the only things that have gone off balance are the polls which are cratering badly. I honestly give it another week of bad press before the Senate GOP start talking about a clean bill with “immigration reform” talks to immediately follow the reopening of the gov’t.

Donny gives his State of the Onion on January 29 (I thought it was earlier than that for some reason??). Maybe that’s his last shot at saving this precious wall of his?

If the GOP senate caves beforehand, there wouldn’t be enough popcorn and schadenfreude for that disaster in the making.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:22:42am

re: #165 Decatur Deb

If I’m one of his top supporters, I expect a minor ambassadorship or an illuminated leg lamp.

They’d reject the leg lamp because they would think it’s made in Italy.

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makeitstop  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:23:03am
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Mattand  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:24:16am

re: #171 Myron Falwell

They’d reject the leg lamp because they would think it’s made in Italy.

Goddamn it, I didn’t type my “Frah-jill-ee” joke fast enough.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:26:14am

Missed in all the crazy from the White House was this gem:

President Trump Urges Americans To Boycott Chinese Restaurants (Patheos)

He also urged harassing employees and skipping out on bills.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:26:50am

From the bitch who fucking warned y’all

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makeitstop  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:27:06am

Looking at that tweet, I’m struck with a thought - it’s looking more and more like AOC is out there drawing fire while Pelosi goes about the business of passing bills in the House.

A counter-distraction, if you will. If it’s an unintended consequence, it a welcome one. But if it’s intentional, it’s fucking brilliant.

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Mattand  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:27:18am

re: #172 makeitstop

Things conservatives hate about AOC:

1) She’s an intelligent woman who’s not afraid of them.

2) She’s non-white and not afraid of them.

3) She’s someone whose actually had to work for shit wages fairly reecently, so she knows of what she speaks.

4) Repeat 1-3 ad infinitum.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:27:47am

re: #174 Anymouse ??

Argh, caught by satire.

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Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:27:56am

re: #174 Anymouse ??

Missed in all the crazy from the White House was this gem:

President Trump Urges Americans To Boycott Chinese Restaurants (Patheos)

He also urged harassing employees and skipping out on bills.

Because being a dick to people trying to make a living is totally going to change the policy of a country they have never lived in.

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wrenchwench  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:28:39am

re: #174 Anymouse ??

Missed in all the crazy from the White House was this gem:

President Trump Urges Americans To Boycott Chinese Restaurants (Patheos)

He also urged harassing employees and skipping out on bills.

President Dine-&-Dash.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:30:24am

re: #178 Anymouse ??

Argh, caught by satire.

I’m surprised the Onion and Patheos are still in business. Then again, it’s not that hard to write joke articles about a living 24/7 joke.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:31:12am

re: #179 Targetpractice

re: #180 wrenchwench

“President Dine-and-Dash” snork.

As I noted above, I got caught by a satirical article. Grr, they need to quit giving him ideas.

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wrenchwench  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:31:28am

re: #179 Targetpractice

Because being a dick to people trying to make a living is totally going to change the policy of a country they have never lived in.

Shows he thinks in terms of race; not politics, not economics, not countries, not leaders, not citizens. RACE. that’s all there’s room for in his head. Miller has shown the ability to keep him focused. WALL=RACE.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:31:50am

re: #174 Anymouse ??

Missed in all the crazy from the White House was this gem:

President Trump Urges Americans To Boycott Chinese Restaurants (Patheos)

He also urged harassing employees and skipping out on bills.

It wasn’t until the second tweet that I was sure the site was satire. America has become a punchline.

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Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:32:08am

*sigh*

My eyes are in danger of popping out of my skull if they roll any harder. Listening to Faux now trying to concern troll about “THE DNC PARTYING IN PUERTO RICO!!!”

Anybody wanna remind them that Mitch recessed the Senate for the weekend so he could bail for Kentucky?

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lawhawk  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:32:17am

re: #163 Targetpractice

I get that strategy. When we had a functional US Senate and US House that wasn’t dominated by the my-way-or-the-highway GOP, leadership could negotiate and have space to work out deals that satisfied enough on both sides that they could keep government operating.

The GOP has gone to a full metal obstructionist government, and some were thinking that they could roll Schumer (moreso than Pelosi) into cutting a deal since that’s what Schumer has been accustomed to doing for years - it’s a process/results oriented approach where negotiating a deal means everyone gets something but no one walks away empty handed.

They misjudged the situation since not even the GOP wants this nonsense.

Oh, and Trump’s FY 2019 ask for the wall is billions less than what he is publicly demanding (as if he can keep straight any of the asks). They try to fudge the numbers there too.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:32:33am
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Weaselone  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:32:33am

re: #176 makeitstop

Looking at that tweet, I’m struck with a thought - it’s looking more and more like AOC is out there drawing fire while Pelosi goes about the business of passing bills in the House.

A counter-distraction, if you will. If it’s an unintended consequence, it a welcome one. But if it’s intentional, it’s fucking brilliant.

I’m not sure if it’s intentional or not, but to some extent that is the impact. She’s also opening up space on some issues. We’re now debating and discussing a 70% marginal tax rate. That leaves a fair amount of wiggle room to raise moderate proposals to only raise the rate to 50%.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:32:35am

re: #177 Mattand

Things conservatives hate about AOC:

1) She’s an intelligent woman who’s not afraid of them.

2) She’s non-white and not afraid of them.

3) She’s someone whose actually had to work for shit wages fairly reecently, so she knows of what she speaks.

4) Repeat 1-3 ad infinitum.

5) she is urban

6) she is hot and gives ‘em a boner, which makes them hot under the collar because they cannot afford to either buy her services or just rape her

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Dave In Austin  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:32:50am

That Hillary Tweet is going to make him all sploddy headed.

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makeitstop  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:34:27am

I’ve been meaning to mention this for a few days now - a friend of mine got me a Bokksu sampler box for Christmas, and my wife and I have been sampling a pretty nice variety of Japanese snacks.

Everything has been really good and some of it is pretty unusual. The one thing neither of us would even try - salmon cookies. Nope, that’s just wrong. Fed those to the pets, and they enjoyed them.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:34:28am

Cue steampunk space exploration fans:

sciencealert.com

NASA funded a steam-powered planetary probe. The idea is water is pretty much everywhere, so the probe creates fuel out of water with solar panels.

The prototype has been tested and works.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:34:51am

re: #182 Anymouse ??

Yes — and can we talk about this for a second? Seriously, how hard is it for the Republican Party to do some simple vetting on their potential presidential candidates to make sure THEY’RE NOT A RUSSIAN ASSET before they allow the person to run on their ticket? Discuss.

Perhaps because they have a number of other key Republicans in their pockets?

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Mattand  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:35:45am

re: #163 Targetpractice

The GOP game plan seems to have been “Put pressure on Schumer and he’ll crack like an egg.” Or, if that failed, put pressure on Senate Dems by suggesting that if they didn’t go along with “border security” then it would hurt them in 2020. But Chuck has stood fast and the Dems aren’t budging which has left the GOP with no Plan C.

It’ll be a week tomorrow since Donny gave his prime-time address, which Jared made the rounds on Capital Hill assuring shaky Repubs would change the whole balance of the shutdown. And the only things that have gone off balance are the polls which are cratering badly. I honestly give it another week of bad press before the Senate GOP start talking about a clean bill with “immigration reform” talks to immediately follow the reopening of the gov’t.

I wish to subscribe to your newsletter and what not, but this would require McConnell allowing a vote on a bill that not only requires a shitload of GOPers to make it veto proof; it would essentially be a huge admission of failure. I just don’t see this happening.

Mitch only gives a shit about power. He’s allowed this mess to go on so long, I think he’s as fucking kamikaze as Trump is. I think they’re both in “Give me what I want or I burn the place down” mode, because giving in on the wall at this point is the end of both their political careers.

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wrenchwench  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:36:22am

re: #183 wrenchwench

Shows he thinks in terms of race; not politics, not economics, not countries, not leaders, not citizens. RACE. that’s all there’s room for in his head. Miller has shown the ability to keep him focused. WALL=RACE.

Reply to a reply to a satire, for the second time. First one was better. President Dine&Dash. Maybe it will stick.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:37:29am

re: #194 Mattand

I wish to subscribe to your newsletter and what not, but this would require McConnell allowing a vote on a bill that not only requite a shitload of GOPers to make it veto proof; it would essentially be a huge admission of failure. I just don’t see this happening.

Mitch only gives a shit about power. He’s allowed this mess to go on so long, I think he’s as fucking kamikaze as Trump is. I think they’re both in “Give me what I want or I burn the place down” mode, because giving in on the wall at this point is the end of both their political careers.

Well, about the only good thing with McConnell shutting down the Senate means they are not putting wingnut judges on the bench.

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lizardofid  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:37:40am

re: #184 Decatur Deb

It wasn’t until the second tweet that I was sure the site was satire. America has become a punchline.

I read that second tweet in the voice of the fictional George Steinbrenner character in Seinfeld. “I love pu pu platters”

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Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:39:45am

re: #186 lawhawk

I get that strategy. When we had a functional US Senate and US House that wasn’t dominated by the my-way-or-the-highway GOP, leadership could negotiate and have space to work out deals that satisfied enough on both sides that they could keep government operating.

The GOP has gone to a full metal obstructionist government, and some were thinking that they could roll Schumer (moreso than Pelosi) into cutting a deal since that’s what Schumer has been accustomed to doing for years - it’s a process/results oriented approach where negotiating a deal means everyone gets something but no one walks away empty handed.

They misjudged the situation since not even the GOP wants this nonsense.

Oh, and Trump’s FY 2019 ask for the wall is billions less than what he is publicly demanding (as if he can keep straight any of the asks). They try to fudge the numbers there too.

Yep, in the past they would have worked a half-assed “Move this shit down the road” deal that would involve empty promises and fuzzy math to get things reopened. Whip enough votes to get it over the line and then let the rest vote what would keep the plebes back home happy. Then go to the press and assure folks that they weren’t abandoning the “fight,” they were just getting the gov’t reopened so they could deprive the DNC of the “hostages” they’d taken.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:40:19am

Conservatives hate AOC because she’s everything they wanted Palin to be: articulate, smart, likable, humble and relatable, with a limitless future.

None of those applied to Palin. They all apply to AOC, and then some.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:42:09am

re: #199 Myron Falwell

Conservatives hate AOC because she’s everything they wanted Palin to be: articulate, smart, likable, humble and relatable, with a limitless future.

None of those applied to Palin. They all apply to AOC, and then some.

But can she take down an elk with a high-powered rifle after only four shots?

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Anymouse ??  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:42:45am
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Mattand  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:43:15am

re: #188 Weaselone

I’m not sure if it’s intentional or not, but to some extent that is the impact. She’s also opening up space on some issues. We’re now debating and discussing a 70% marginal tax rate. That leaves a fair amount of wiggle room to raise moderate proposals to only raise the rate to 50%.

One of the amazing things about this is not that most conservatives would lose their shit about a 50% marginal rate; it’s that the majority of them will never, ever, ever in the their lives come close to making the kind of money that would put them in that bracket. Yet that’s one of the hills they always want to die on.

Temporarily embarrassed millionaires and low income conservatives always voting against own self-interest rules in full effect here.

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wrenchwench  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:43:26am

re: #191 makeitstop

I’ve been meaning to mention this for a few days now - a friend of mine got me a Bokksu sampler box for Christmas, and my wife and I have been sampling a pretty nice variety of Japanese snacks.

Everything has been really good and some of it is pretty unusual. The one thing neither of us would even try - salmon cookies. Nope, that’s just wrong. Fed those to the pets, and they enjoyed them.

Some peoples in the Northwest, before all the trappers and sailors started showing up, used to stack salmon like cordwood to get them through the year (because salmon are only running in the river for a small part of the year.) The ones not good enough for the stack went to the dogs.

I would eat a salmon cookie. I’ve had smoked salmon from a Tulalip family. We always said it was like candy.

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plansbandc  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:44:28am
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freetoken  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:45:27am

re: #201 Anymouse ??

Yes, it’s a lie.

But what if it is also a delusion?

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wrenchwench  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:46:10am

re: #200 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But can she take down an elk with a high-powered rifle after only four shots?

I’ll bet the congresswomen from NM can do it with one arrow, each. And they’d each have an elk.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:46:26am

re: #205 freetoken

Yes, it’s a lie.

But what if it is also a delusion?

In his mind, they have been calling him but the Deep State, which also controls the telephone network, is not letting the calls get through…

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Jay C  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:46:36am

re: #188 Weaselone

I’m not sure if it’s intentional or not, but to some extent that is the impact. She’s also opening up space on some issues. We’re now debating and discussing a 70% marginal tax rate. That leaves a fair amount of wiggle room to raise moderate proposals to only raise the rate to 50%.

Well, even though I think a lot of the whooptedo over AOC is a bit overblown, if your thesis is true, it’s a truly impressive feat for a freshman Representative: moving a (seemingly fixed) Overton Window way to the left all by her lonesome…

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CongoJack  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:46:41am

re: #204 plansbandc

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Re-do that drawing. Make Putin the Star Wars (TM) Emperor; Trump can be Darth Vader (hair = helmet ; long tie = red light saber) etc etc. The right wing are nothing but Sith Lords.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:46:51am

re: #200 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But can she take down an elk with a high-powered rifle after only four shots?

Video her June 9th Puerto Rico Day greeting on a Brooklyn rooftop while someone strangles NYC pigeons in the background.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:47:15am

re: #205 freetoken

Yes, it’s a lie.

But what if it is also a delusion?

It’s both.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:47:48am

re: #202 Mattand

One of the amazing things about this is not that most conservatives would lose their shit about a 50% marginal rate; it’s that the majority of them will never, ever, ever in the their lives come close to making the kind of money that would put them in that bracket. Yet that’s one of the hills they always want to die on.

Temporarily embarrassed millionaires and low income conservatives always voting against own self-interest rules in full effect here.

Nope, they’re not voting against their interests, at least not a significant fraction.

Their interest is racism (cue President Johnson quote).

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Mattand  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:48:42am

re: #205 freetoken

Yes, it’s a lie.

But what if it is also a delusion?

Nah, it’s a lie. Donnie’s big problem is that this is the first time in his life there are actual consequences when people call out his bullshit. Thing is, that’s all he knows; bluster and lie and eventually I get my way.

Not happening this time.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:48:48am

re: #208 Jay C

Well, even though I think a lot of the whooptedo over AOC is a bit overblown, if your thesis is true, it’s a truly impressive feat for a freshman Representative: moving a (seemingly fixed) Overton Window way to the left all by her lonesome…

Yup. All of a sudden conservative pundits everywhere are attacking her. They are scared. If they thought that wouldn’t gain any traction they would ignore her.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:51:44am

re: #208 Jay C

Well, even though I think a lot of the whooptedo over AOC is a bit overblown, if your thesis is true, it’s a truly impressive feat for a freshman Representative: moving a (seemingly fixed) Overton Window way to the left all by her lonesome…

The utter unpopularity of the Trump tax cuts outside of the GOP base likely helped with building up the initial groundswell that AOC is smartly tapping into. And how could it not?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:52:45am

re: #215 Myron Falwell

The utter unpopularity of the Trump tax cuts outside of the GOP base likely helped with building up the initial groundswell that AOC is smartly tapping into. And how could it not?

and that all but the base have lost their faith in supply-side economics

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:52:59am

They’re threatened by her because she’s able to criticize their economic failures and the hypocrisy of being able to spend the way they do on DoD while poo-pooing social spending.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:53:37am

re: #216 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and that all but the base have lost their faith in supply-side economics

Even the base doesn’t really buy supply side. Their donors and faux intellectuals do tho.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:54:01am

re: #217 HappyWarrior

They’re threatened by her because she’s able to criticize their economic failures and the hypocrisy of being able to spend the way they do on DoD while poo-pooing social spending.

and now he is ready to declare a national emergency and get the Army Corps of Engineers to start building his Wall

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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:56:18am

re: #219 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and now he is ready to declare a national emergency and get the Army Corps of Engineers to start building his Wall

Lots of luck. The Corps is responsible for executing Army implementation of Fed EPA/environmental law.

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Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:58:57am

How bad are things going for Donny? Even Rasmussen has his poll numbers underwater, with “strongly disapprove” polling 3 points higher than his overall approval.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 14, 2019 • 8:59:18am

Donnie: “Not only did I never work for Russia, I think it’s a disgrace that you even answer the question because it’s a whole big fat hoax.”

Also Donnie: “I knew nothing about Paul Manafort giving confidential polling data to Russia”.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:00:08am

re: #221 Targetpractice

How bad are things going for Donny? Even Rasmussen has his poll numbers underwater, with “strongly disapprove” polling 3 points higher than his overall approval.

His ratings are great all right. Greatly awful.

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sagehen  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:00:48am

re: #148 Myron Falwell

The disinformation ain’t working now, if it ever worked. It sounds increasingly like he has no way out of his own mess now, but just to stall, stall, stall.

And why in the F would the Clemson football team want a dinner like that shit?

Because they’re suspicious what White House cooks would do to the food if he hosts the team for a dinner cooked in-house.

We’ve all seen “The Help”, right?

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lawhawk  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:00:52am

Active shooter situation at a UPS warehouse in NJ. Situation ongoing.

A Gloucester County spokeswoman confirmed an active shooter in a UPS warehouse in Logan Township, Gloucester County. No details have been released about injuries, but officials stressed that the ongoing incident was contained to the warehouse on Birchcreek Road and police have roads blocked off in the area. The warehouse is located in an industrial park.

A spokesman for the Gloucester County Prosecutor’s Office said “the situation is contained.”

“We have an active incident in place,” chief of staff Tom Gilbert said by phone. “Tactical elements were deployed.”

Thirty-two employees from the UPS warehouse have been relocated to the nearby Holiday Inn.

We have more gun violence than every other OECD country out there, but Trump and GOP don’t consider it a national emergency unless the shooter isn’t white and isn’t an American citizen. Only then do they dog whistle that we need action against minorities and undocumented persons.

But none of these GOPers are going to touch guns. The sales must continue.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:01:12am

re: #222 Dr. Matt

Donnie: “Not only did I never work for Russia, I think it’s a disgrace that you even answer the question because it’s a whole big fat hoax.”

Also Donnie: “I knew nothing about Paul Manafort giving confidential polling data to Russia”.

“Anyone who did such a thing must be a real son of a bitch!”

-“I didn’t do it an stop talking about my mother”

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Dr. Matt  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:02:16am

Passenger carries firearm through TSA screening at Atlanta onto Delta flight

Donnie’s shutdown is going to get someone killed.

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lawhawk  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:02:38am

re: #226 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump didn’t think it was confidential polling data, and didn’t care that Paulie Gout was handing it off to the Russians. /not sarc.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:02:41am

re: #225 lawhawk

Active shooter situation at a UPS warehouse in NJ. Situation ongoing.

We have more gun violence than every other OECD country out there, but Trump and GOP don’t consider it a national emergency unless the shooter isn’t white and isn’t an American citizen. Only then do they dog whistle that we need action against minorities and undocumented persons.

But none of these GOPers are going to touch guns. The sales inviolable sanctity of the 2A> must continue to be upheld.

Made it Greater for you

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jaunte  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:03:16am
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lawhawk  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:04:14am

re: #225 lawhawk

Looks like it’s now a hostage situation with two being held by a shooter.

The man’s ex-girlfriend is one of the people being held captive, according to the official. There are no immediate reports of anyone being injured.

A spokesman for UPS said in a statement to NBC News they are “working with law enforcement as they respond to an active shooter situation at one of the company’s supply chain processing facilities.”

“We cannot provide information about the identity of people involved at this time,” the spokesman said.

Domestic fucking violence? I’m shocked. Shocked that a guy decides to shoot up the place of employment of his ex girlfriend and hold her hostage.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:05:29am

re: #230 jaunte

People are dragging CBS for not having enough black people, but has anyone considered the obvious explanation that many black people have no interest in journalism? Cultures are different and value different things. Doesn’t make CBS the KKK.

Just like black people don’t care about being doctors, lawyers, firefighters, police officers or anything other than professional athletes, entertainers, drug dealers and pimps.

fer chrissakes.

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freetoken  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:05:55am

re: #230 jaunte

The dude is on NRATV … what can we expect but derp?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:07:08am

re: #230 jaunte

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Did anyone say CBS was the KKK? Fucking white people have to stop act like all racism is the KKK so therefore pointing out what AOC and others pointed out is absurd when it’s a perfectly reasonable observation.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:07:39am

re: #233 freetoken

The dude is on NRATV … what can we expect but derp?

Why is a NRA TV guy crying about criticism of CBS?

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jaunte  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:07:57am

re: #232 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Many more white billionaires than black billionaires; must prove that white people are more interested in making money.

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jaunte  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:09:01am

re: #235 HappyWarrior

It’s just one more RWNJ grifter getting mileage by pushing back against AOC.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:12:22am

I swear tho. Stop acting like whenever racism is pointed out that it means that people are being likened to the Klan or Nazis. Racism is more complex than that. I think it’s because frankly that’s how most white people perceive racism. But that’s merely the extreme end. Things that black and poc experience daily like being suspected of being criminals etc or being un/underrepresented are more common than experiences with outright white supremacy.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:12:29am

re: #237 jaunte

It’s just one more RWNJ grifter getting mileage by pushing back against AOC.

Ah

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jaunte  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:12:48am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:14:12am

re: #240 jaunte

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Jesse go back to fucking guns at the NRA.

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makeitstop  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:14:18am

re: #208 Jay C

Well, even though I think a lot of the whooptedo over AOC is a bit overblown, if your thesis is true, it’s a truly impressive feat for a freshman Representative: moving a (seemingly fixed) Overton Window way to the left all by her lonesome…

She’s done that. CNBC’s John Harwood made exactly that point - no one was even talking about marginal tax rates until she tweeted about them, and the subsequent right-wing freakout about the tweet moved it into the media.

Maybe she’s operating on instinct, but if she is her instincts are damned good.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:16:12am

re: #242 makeitstop

She’s done that. CNBC’s John Harwood made exactly that point - no one was even talking about marginal tax rates until she tweeted about them, and the subsequent right-wing freakout about the tweet moved it into the media.

Maybe she’s operating on instinct, but if she is her instincts are damned good.

She’s a smart woman. She’s only been in Congress a week and already more intelligent to basic politics than Bernie.

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sagehen  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:16:34am

re: #207 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In his mind, they have been calling him but the Deep State, which also controls the telephone network, is not letting the calls get through…

Maybe Stephen Miller does a lot of different voices, and keeps calling using different names…

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Belafon  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:17:04am

re: #200 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But can she take down an elk with a high-powered rifle after only four shots?

I bet she can handle her alcohol pretty well. She can probably take one down after 6.

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KerFuFFler  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:17:12am

re: #87 Kilroy was here

Randy doing what Randy does..

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Video

Thanks for that link! Would give more updings if it were possible.

I’m gonna share that link with all o’ my friends…??

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Belafon  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:19:43am

re: #208 Jay C

Well, even though I think a lot of the whooptedo over AOC is a bit overblown, if your thesis is true, it’s a truly impressive feat for a freshman Representative: moving a (seemingly fixed) Overton Window way to the left all by her lonesome…

The other day, Julian Castro was talking about how how 70% wouldn’t cause any problems because we used to be at 90%. That would not have happened with out AOC.

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KerFuFFler  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:21:05am

re: #89 Belafon

Do you really want a fridge that can close the door on its own?

And usually if a fridge did not close all the way there is something obstructing it, so a self-closing function would not be able to deal with that.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:22:05am

re: #247 Belafon

The other day, Julian Castro was talking about how how 70% wouldn’t cause any problems because we used to be at 90%. That would not have happened with out AOC.

And that’s why she’s an asset. She’s good at starting necessary conversations.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:25:24am

I don’t see myself as a Dem socialist like Alexandria does but I sure as hell do gdt tired of the premise of capitalism- only good and socialism- only bad and for that this moderate liberal adores AOC.

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dirkdigglerjr  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:26:05am

re: #221 Targetpractice

The calcification of Strongly Disapprove in all the polls is what stands out the most. When 46 percent absolutely detest you (and for damn good reason), there’s not much margin to grow the 33 percent that will always stick with Orange Foolius.

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lawhawk  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:26:06am

Hostage situation is over in NJ UPS facility. Shooter is in custody and hostages were rescued.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:26:57am

re: #251 dirkdigglerjr

The calcification of Strongly Disapprove in all the polls is what stands out the most. When 46 percent absolutely detest you (and for damn good reason), there’s not much margin to grow the 33 percent that will always stick with Orange Foolius.

Yes. He’s got a huge floor of people who can’t stand him and it won’t change.

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lawhawk  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:27:22am

re: #249 HappyWarrior

A good leader understands the need to have someone on the vanguard floating issues that might be useful for the rest of the caucus to gauge receptiveness.

Pelosi is that good leader. She sees how to utilize AOC, and it’s already paying dividends.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:29:28am

re: #73 jeffreyw

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Good morning! Can anyone ID this bird?

Carolina Wren

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:29:32am

re: #254 lawhawk

A good leader understands the need to have someone on the vanguard floating issues that might be useful for the rest of the caucus to gauge receptiveness.

Pelosi is that good leader. She sees how to utilize AOC, and it’s already paying dividends.

Yes and AOC is humble enough to realize Pelosi agrees with her more than not and will have her back when the shit gets particularly nasty. She may have campaigned for and with Bernie but she’s very unSanders in the best ways.

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Belafon  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:29:53am

re: #253 HappyWarrior

Yes. He’s got a huge floor of people who can’t stand him and it won’t change.

I think he also means that there’s only 21% of the population that Trump could pull from to improve his numbers. That’s not much. That would only get him to a little over 50% if he could somehow convince everyone left.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:31:59am

re: #257 Belafon

I think he also means that there’s only 21% of the population that Trump could pull from to improve his numbers. That’s not much. That would only get him to a little over 50% if he could somehow convince everyone left.

And honestly that ain’t happening. A perfect storm helped him in 2016. That won’t happen again imo and his use to Putin is about done.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:33:58am

The latest concern troll/both-sideism talking point: Donnie is too stupid to be a Russian Spy.

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Citizen K  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:34:15am

re: #191 makeitstop

I’ve been meaning to mention this for a few days now - a friend of mine got me a Bokksu sampler box for Christmas, and my wife and I have been sampling a pretty nice variety of Japanese snacks.

Everything has been really good and some of it is pretty unusual. The one thing neither of us would even try - salmon cookies. Nope, that’s just wrong. Fed those to the pets, and they enjoyed them.

I had a subscription to a similar service a year or so ago, Japan Crate. I definitely got some interesting stuff, but I realized after a while that I had mainly subscribed in hopes of stuff like Japanese Kit Kats, and the price wasn’t worth what I realized were boxes of snacks I lad been hording. It was coming in too fast to eat through.

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makeitstop  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:35:12am

Sweet mother of Buddy Holly, he sounds like a fucking loon.

I can smell the desperation from here.

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jaunte  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:35:58am

re: #261 makeitstop

Brings a new dimension to the phrase “barking mad.”

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:36:09am

re: #235 HappyWarrior

Why is a NRA TV guy crying about criticism of CBS?

Gives him something to do while freaking out behind the scenes over his parent organization’s clear and present Russian problem.

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lawhawk  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:37:00am

re: #259 Dr. Matt

They’re floating a couple of things then:

1) he’s too dumb/addled to have conspired with the Russians; or
2) releasing the report would be far more damaging to the US than keeping it under wraps.

The report, which is likely to show that Trumpworld was up to its eyeballs in Russia complicity, is going to be a bombshell alright. I’m also thinking that it might implicate more than just those in the admin, but some of those in Congress - whether from the NRA angle, or the Trumpworld angle. Both are part of the larger effort for Russia to destabilize the American political system and use the GOP’s power-hungry demagogues to further their own agenda by electing a know nothing who gives Russia what it wants on the international stage, and everything happening domestically is a bonus for Putin.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:37:05am

re: #259 Dr. Matt

The latest concern troll/both-sideism talking point: Donnie is too stupid to be a Russian Spy.

Au Contrare, if he’s creating doubt in our systems, he’s doing his job. This goes with treating criminals as masterminds. Donnie is stupid but he acts the part of a Russian asset very much.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:37:24am
Jesse Kelly: “anyone considered the obvious explanation that many black [sic] people have no interest in journalism”

*People present statistics about percentage of Black journalists*

also Jesse Kelly: “I deeply apologize for having an opinion backed up by data and facts. That can be damaging to race-grifters.”

Fucking idiotic conservatives.

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makeitstop  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:37:40am

re: #260 Citizen K

I had a subscription to a similar service a year or so ago, Japan Crate. I definitely got some interesting stuff, but I realized after a while that I had mainly subscribed in hopes of stuff like Japanese Kit Kats, and the price wasn’t worth what I realized were boxes of snacks I lad been hording. It was coming in too fast to eat through.

The February Bokksu has those Strawberry Tiramisu Kit Kats in it, just so you know. :)

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:38:19am

re: #259 Dr. Matt

The latest concern troll/both-sideism talking point: Donnie is too stupid to be a Russian Spy.

Heheh. That came much earlier than I would have expected.

The “he can’t be a Russian spy, Vladimir isn’t reaping economic benefits!” talking point is pretty much right on schedule, though.

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Citizen K  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:42:57am

re: #267 makeitstop

The February Bokksu has those Strawberry Tiramisu Kit Kats in it, just so you know. :)

I saw, and they look delicious! That’s the kind of stuff that drew me to the japanese snack crate stuff to begin with. If only the US could get things like the Baked Custard Kit Kats, or even the less outrageous flavors like Cinnamon Cookie.

The Cough Drop ones are way too out there for me though.

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Belafon  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:43:17am

re: #259 Dr. Matt

The latest concern troll/both-sideism talking point: Donnie is too stupid to be a Russian Spy.

If he’s that stupid, he shouldn’t be president.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:43:56am

re: #270 Belafon

If he’s that stupid, he shouldn’t be president.

BETTER THAN HILLARY!11!!!!!!!1

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:44:30am

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

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NINE FAMILY BIBLES

good fucking grief

Those nine bibles weigh more than DeWine.

I hate the little asshole.

We have got to change Ohio’s politics. Younger folks in the three biggest cities have got to help to do it.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:44:42am

re: #270 Belafon

If he’s that stupid, he shouldn’t be president.

As stupid as a stick of Email Butter.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:45:35am
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lawhawk  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:45:39am

re: #273 Myron Falwell

But her emails.
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makeitstop  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:46:35am

re: #269 Citizen K

I saw, and they look delicious! That’s the kind of stuff that drew me to the japanese snack crate stuff to begin with. If only the US could get things like the Baked Custard Kit Kats, or even the less outrageous flavors like Cinnamon Cookie.

The Cough Drop ones are way too out there for me though.

My wife wants those Kit Kats bad. Maybe I’ll get one as a Valentine’s Day present for her.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:46:49am

re: #259 Dr. Matt

The latest concern troll/both-sideism talking point: Donnie is too stupid to be a Russian Spy.

They’ve actually used variants of that theme before.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:46:57am

re: #274 goddamnedfrank

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Agh.

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:48:09am

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

ah…the Farm Bureau convention is in New Orleans, not Nashville.

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moron

It’s somewhere in the south where Trump would never go, but he has to get his ass kissed by the people in his base he would never associate with.

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freetoken  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:49:18am

re: #279 ObserverArt

You’d think the Farm Bureau if anyone would be angry at Trump.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:49:41am

trump is hard at work making sure the democratic nominees for 2020 will never be able to hold their heads up at sixth grade recess

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jeffreyw  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:49:47am

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

yay! thank you

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:50:17am

re: #278 HappyWarrior

Agh.

From his bio:

Founder, PR Firm

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:50:57am

re: #274 goddamnedfrank

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We know what Marky likes to watch on Pornhub!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:51:24am

re: #259 Dr. Matt

The latest concern troll/both-sideism talking point: Donnie is too stupid to be a Russian Spy.

being a russian asset doesn’t require being smart enough to realize that you’re a russian asset

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:51:37am

re: #284 Joe Bacon ??

We know what Marky likes to watch on Pornhub!

“The making of an NBA star”

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Dr. Matt  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:52:36am

re: #285 dog philosopher ????

being a russian asset doesn’t require being smart enough to realize that you’re a russian asset

Hence the term, “Useful idiot”. It applies 100% to Donnie.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:53:28am

re: #287 Dr. Matt

Hence the term, “Useful idiot”. It applies 100% to Donnie.

or, from our point of view, “massively destructive clown”

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:55:14am

Lol he can’t even get Burger King’s name correct

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freetoken  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:57:41am

re: #289 Myron Falwell

Bürgermeister… that’s what he meant.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:58:04am

re: #289 Myron Falwell

Lol he can’t even get Burger King’s name correct

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But he’s a real American.//

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makeitstop  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:58:53am

re: #289 Myron Falwell

Lol he can’t even get Burger King’s name correct

As much as he tries to be a tough guy, there’s just an air of abject dorkiness about him that he’ll never get rid of.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 14, 2019 • 9:59:32am

re: #73 jeffreyw

I’m pretty sure this is an Orange-crowned Warbler.

ETA: Never mind.

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:00:03am

re: #83 ipsos

I think his name is Steve.

I don’t know Steve.

But we in Columbus Ohio who watch NBC Channel 4 met Kevin.

Check this video out when the Columbus Zoo brought Kevin to the studio on Saturday for the morning news/entertainment show.

Kevin wanders around the studio, scares Hattie Hawks the main Saturday news host and the gets in on the weather forecast.

It was fun times.

NBC4 newscast goes to the BIRDS live on air with Hattie Hawks and Liz McGiffin

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Dr. Matt  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:01:24am

re: #289 Myron Falwell

Imagine getting an invite to the White House and being served the same food you can get delivered to your dorm. Even worse, considering the logistics of getting said food delivered to the most secure locale on the planet, by the time it shows up it’s either going to be cold and disgusting or reheated and disgusting. Fucking idiot.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:06:39am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:11:48am

re: #282 jeffreyw

yay! thank you

I recognized it right away because there are a bazillion of them here in TheBackwoods

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:13:51am

re: #138 The Vicious Babushka

He’s just lying out his lying lie hole. It’s a day ending in “day”

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“Many” has become such an empty word.

Trump inverts language.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:13:56am

re: #296 goddamnedfrank

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And most of the guys he listed stink. He can’t even racism right.

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makeitstop  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:15:36am

Thread:

Asks the right questions about translators, notes and secret meetings.

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:16:04am

re: #144 Joe Bacon ??

Ain’t Wingnut Welfare Wonderful?

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Candace Owens is a Deplorable?.

Hillary was more than right.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:17:13am

re: #115 lawhawk

Too late!

This is the stage of the fungus that the GOP allowed to infect them.

Parasitic fungus takes over ants body and mind.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:17:14am

Chill, y’all…

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Belafon  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:18:44am

re: #303 Backwoods_Sleuth

Chill, y’all…

We’re supposed to enjoy the ride.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:18:44am
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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:19:34am

re: #153 Decatur Deb

They’re happy. They get Happy Meals.

Is everybody happy?

(From the back of the room, a Black football player yells:) Hell no!

Trump to Dabo Swinney: Kick that S.O.B. off the team.

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Belafon  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:21:13am

re: #306 ObserverArt

Is everybody happy?

(From the back of the room, a Black football player yells:) Hell no!

Trump to Dabo Swinney: Kick that S.O.B. off the team.

And Swinney goes “They know how to win.”

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:21:36am

re: #303 Backwoods_Sleuth

Chill, y’all…

Frank Drebin - Nothing to See Here

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ipsos  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:24:05am

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

I recognized it right away because there are a bazillion of them here in TheBackwoods

Yeah, well, you haven’t proved that his name isn’t Steve, so.

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:26:33am

re: #183 wrenchwench

Shows he thinks in terms of race; not politics, not economics, not countries, not leaders, not citizens. RACE. that’s all there’s room for in his head. Miller has shown the ability to keep him focused. WALL=RACE.

You can thank Stone and Nunberg for that word association.

Miller has the policy covered, the two skuzzballs get the nod for the reminders.

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The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:27:24am

David French continues the trend of displacing onto Trump the misdeeds and malformations that have been the dominant position in US conservatism for decades.

The Unmanning of Conservatism

He’s a bully, and his fans love him for it.

Yes, let’s pretend this is new as opposed to an ongoing part of the consumer culture of conservatism since Nixon.

Of all the disorienting and disturbing cultural effects of Trump’s ascension to the presidency, few are as disorienting and disturbing as the redefinition of ideal masculinity in the hearts of many of his biggest fans. The sheepdog has been replaced by the wolf.

And here is the real bullshit: the “sheep, sheepdog, wolf” invocation.

If you want to understand why conservative masculinity leans on cruelty, is fragile as a digestive biscuit, and attracts deep, violent misogyny, well…there you go.

When used by Lev Grossman in “On Killing” the metaphor refers to men trained to be combatants and thus acclimating to tasks abhorrent to civilians: this is necessary but not heroic, and potentially tragic since the serviceman is set apart, even injured, by their exercise of violence.

What is the metaphor to David French? Conservative men are sheepdogs? Who are the sheep? Everyone else? Built into this usage is a unexamined conceit that conservative positions protect people, and that the sheep/sheepdog distinction means that conservative policy is a select group making choices to govern a majority. Given how often conservative leaders serve up the notion that non-whites and the “wrong” kind of women are fundamentally unserious—the vaunted Reagan being especially skilled at hand-wave dismissals—this idea that they are tending a flock is more about power and contempt than care.

Performative cruelty is part of the culture such that there’s an entire genre of shows, and performers competing for eyes, and they have consistently punched down and used exactly the kind of language French is attributing to Trump: nicknames, accusing men of being feminine, cheap shots. It is a multi-billion dollar business. Aggression against ones putative charges is embroidered into the conservative understanding of “family” and parenting; that masculinity specifically entails the domination of wife and kids, to teach them proper order, arises over and over in their religious values.

It’s not just a No True Scotsman—everyone’s a good sheepdog until they’re a wolf—it’s a continuing resolution to ignore bad behavior in the in-group, until such time as it can’t be concealed…at which point it’s denied that the “wolf” was ever part of the community of putative “sheepdogs.” Nothing will change as long as this kind of shallowness—the invocation of a heroic manly ethos, with no reflection about how that system has and is operating, how it fails—is presented as critique.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:28:43am

re: #308 Myron Falwell

Animal House _ All Is Well

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:30:11am

re: #311 The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery

David French continues the trend of displacing onto Trump the misdeeds and malformations that have been the dominant position in US conservatism for decades.

The Unmanning of Conservatism

Yes, let’s pretend this is new as opposed to an ongoing part of the consumer culture of conservatism since Nixon.

And here is the real bullshit: the “sheep, sheepdog, wolf” invocation.

If you want to understand why conservative masculinity leans on cruelty, is fragile as a digestive biscuit, and attracts deep, violent misogyny, well…there you go.

When used by Lev Grossman in “On Killing” the metaphor refers to men trained to be combatants and thus acclimating to tasks abhorrent to civilians: this is necessary but not heroic, and potentially tragic since the serviceman is set apart, even injured, by their exercise of violence.

What is the metaphor to David French? Conservative men are sheepdogs? Who are the sheep? Everyone else? Built into this usage is a unexamined conceit that conservative positions protect people, and that the sheep/sheepdog distinction means that conservative policy is a select group making choices to govern a majority. Given how often conservative leaders serve up the notion that non-whites and the “wrong” kind of women are fundamentally unserious—the vaunted Reagan being especially skilled at hand-wave dismissals—this idea that they are tending a flock is more about power and contempt than care.

Performative cruelty is part of the culture such that there’s an entire genre of shows, and performers competing for eyes, and they have consistently punched down and used exactly the kind of language French is attributing to Trump: nicknames, accusing men of being feminine, cheap shots. It is a multi-billion dollar business. Aggression against ones putative charges is embroidered into the conservative understanding of “family” and parenting; that masculinity specifically entails the domination of wife and kids, to teach them proper order, arises over and over in their religious values.

It’s not just a No True Scotsman—everyone’s a good sheepdog until they’re a wolf—it’s a continuing resolution to ignore bad behavior in the in-group, until such time as it can’t be concealed…at which point it’s denied that the “wolf” was ever part of the community of putative “sheepdogs.” Nothing will change as long as this kind of shallowness—the invocation of a heroic manly ethos, with no reflection about how that system has and is operating, how it fails—is presented as critique.

French refuses to see that American conservatism’s traits quite naturally led to someone like Trump. And tbh not really fond of him talking about bullying given how he treats his wife.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:33:14am

And so, at long last, one of the Brexiteers gives the game away:

Can’t you just feel the sovereignty?

*headdesk*

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Belafon  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:34:07am

re: #183 wrenchwench

Shows he thinks in terms of race; not politics, not economics, not countries, not leaders, not citizens. RACE. that’s all there’s room for in his head. Miller has shown the ability to keep him focused. WALL=RACE.

A story about a wall and race: dailykos.com

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:34:43am

re: #213 Mattand

Nah, it’s a lie. Donnie’s big problem is that this is the first time in his life there are actual consequences when people call out his bullshit. Thing is, that’s all he knows; bluster and lie and eventually I get my way.

Not happening this time.

From my understanding many of his building projects were not him getting his way, it was more like he was paid to go away.

He hung a lot of local politicians, banks, suppliers and contractors out to dry. They settled to get past him.

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freetoken  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:35:58am

re: #314 Dr Lizardo

As I linked earlier this morning, the opinion piece in the Guardian by the Isle of Wight’s Conservative MP getting all up and bothered about Parliament elites overthrowing democracy… as we all know, it’s the Brexiteers who are the ones trying to undo representative democracy.

Brexit passed by a slim margin. Polls show that it would not pass today.

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The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:36:05am

re: #313 HappyWarrior

French refuses to see that American conservatism’s traits quite naturally led to someone like Trump. And tbh not really fond of him talking about bullying given how he treats his wife.

The ways that Never Trumpers explain Trump demonstrate exactly how Trump happened, and why there’s going to be another Trump in just a few years.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:38:39am

re: #300 makeitstop

NEW: After closed door mtg with Putin, Trump took his interpreter’s notes, told linguist not to reveal what had transpired to other administration officials. Pattern of concealing communications with Putin. washingtonpost.com
— Greg Miller (@gregpmiller) January 12, 2019

Congress needs to subpoena the interpreter.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:38:47am

re: #318 The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery

The ways that Never Trumpers explain Trump demonstrate exactly how Trump happened, and why there’s going to be another Trump in just a few years.

Because they refuse to admit the flaws of conservatism.

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:39:14am

re: #240 jaunte

Jesse Kelly ?
@JesseKellyDC
People are dragging CBS for not having enough black people, but has anyone considered the obvious explanation that many black people have no interest in journalism? Cultures are different and value different things. Doesn’t make CBS the KKK.

1:59 PM - Jan 13, 2019

WARNING: Dumbass on display. It is not pretty. Avert your eyes and slowly move away. Continued attention may cause brain rot. You’ve been warned.

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Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:39:22am

There’s a reason I continue to put “Never Trump” in quotations, and the reason is that the problem in the eyes of so many who describe themselves or are described as such by the press are like French: They only have a problem with Trump saying the shit out loud that the GOP prefers to be hidden behind dog whistles and talking points. They haven’t the least bit of problem with what he’s doing, they just wish he’d shut his fucking mouth while doing it.

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makeitstop  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:39:37am

re: #319 Dr. Matt

Congress needs to subpoena the interpreter.

I think Schiff was putting that request in this morning.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:40:36am

re: #322 Targetpractice

There’s a reason I continue to put “Never Trump” in quotations, and the reason is that the problem in the eyes of so many who describe themselves or are described as such by the press are like French: They only have a problem with Trump saying the shit out loud that the GOP prefers to be hidden behind dog whistles and talking points. They haven’t the least bit of problem with what he’s doing, they just wish he’d shut his fucking mouth while doing it.

Indeed NRO after all influenced Trumps scouts lists and defends the cabinet picks.

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lawhawk  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:40:36am

Aw…. fuck… Mel Stottlemyre passed away at 77.

He was a great pitcher in his own right, but he helped shape the pitching staffs of the Mets and Yankees, including Doc Gooden, Ron Darling, Sid Fernandez, Mariano Rivera, Andy Pettitte, and Roger Clemens among others.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:41:23am

re: #325 lawhawk

Aw…. fuck… Mel Stottlemyre passed away at 77.

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He was a great pitcher in his own right, but he helped shape the pitching staffs of the Mets and Yankees, including Doc Gooden, Ron Darling, Sid Fernandez, Mariano Rivera, Andy Pettitte, and Roger Clemens among others.

RIP. He always seemed like a good guy. His son Todd was a decent pitcher too.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:42:06am

re: #319 Dr. Matt

My first thought was, “I hope they make it to the committee.”

Because none of the bad guys from Putin on down would feel bad if ‘accidents’ happened to people that could incriminate them.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:42:46am

re: #317 freetoken

As I linked earlier this morning, the opinion piece in the Guardian by the Isle of Wight’s Conservative MP getting all up and bothered about Parliament elites overthrowing democracy… as we all know, it’s the Brexiteers who are the ones trying to undo representative democracy.

Brexit passed by a slim margin. Polls show that it would not pass today.

That right there is the one and only reason the Brexiteers are so petrified at the thought of a second referendum on Brexit.

They know this time around, it’ll lose. This is their one and only shot at getting the UK out of the EU, and they damn well know it.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:43:43am

re: #328 Dr Lizardo

That right there is the one and only reason the Brexiteers are so petrified at the thought of a second referendum on Brexit.

They know this time around, it’ll lose.

Precisely.

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lawhawk  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:43:54am

re: #328 Dr Lizardo

That right there is the one and only reason the Brexiteers are so petrified at the thought of a second referendum on Brexit.

They know this time around, it’ll lose.

It should lose. It would have lost but for the nonstop lie that it would somehow create all this money for the NHS. After it passed, the proponents admitted that there was no money going to NHS. It was a sham.

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:43:57am

re: #242 makeitstop

She’s done that. CNBC’s John Harwood made exactly that point - no one was even talking about marginal tax rates until she tweeted about them, and the subsequent right-wing freakout about the tweet moved it into the media.

Maybe she’s operating on instinct, but if she is her instincts are damned good.

Her instincts are good.

And she obviously has paid attention to the plight of folks like her. It pissed her off and she is going to do something about it.

She is a highly motivated minority woman on a mission. She will not be deterred.

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Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:45:22am

re: #328 Dr Lizardo

That right there is the one and only reason the Brexiteers are so petrified at the thought of a second referendum on Brexit.

They know this time around, it’ll lose.

Hence why they’re lying out their asses about the consequences of a no-deal Brexit. Such as Nigel Farage, First Baron of Douchiness, who Faux had on earlier to assure folks that the markets will actually improve tomorrow when May’s deal fails because they know the UK will be stronger after some messiness in the “short term.”

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:46:04am
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jaunte  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:47:44am

re: #311 The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery

Who are the sheep? Everyone else? Built into this usage is a unexamined conceit that conservative positions protect people, and that the sheep/sheepdog distinction means that conservative policy is a select group making choices to govern a majority.

Rhetorically changing the reality of citizen soldiers to “warriors” over the last few decades is part of this.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:50:38am
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Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:51:09am

re: #333 Charles Johnson

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Not to worry, you can be sure that the wingnuts think this is awesome of him because it’s better than “hoity-toity” foods that Hillary or Obama would have prepared.

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Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:52:18am

re: #335 Charles Johnson

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The general theme of all the articles: “Look, we disagree with what Trump is doing, but only because he’s being a massive prick about it. We’re not going to suddenly oppose tax cuts because of what he’s done, we’re just going to say that we wouldn’t have sold it with the same obvious bullshit he did.”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:53:04am

re: #335 Charles Johnson

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Yes!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:54:08am

re: #337 Targetpractice

The general theme of all the articles: “Look, we disagree with what Trump is doing, but only because he’s being a massive prick about it. We’re not going to suddenly oppose tax cuts because of what he’s done, we’re just going to say that we wouldn’t have sold it with the same obvious bullshit he did.”

We wouldn’t have belittled Brett Kavanaugh’s accuser but we would have stuck by him!

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The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:54:25am

re: #320 HappyWarrior

What they’re practicing isn’t even conservatism.

It’s just the invocation of the past to justify whatever is wanted in the present. It’s magical thinking where conjuring with tradition—invoking the vague notion of “the family,” “the free market,” or “real men”—substitutes for opening up those concepts and considering how they have subjective aspects, and how they fail.

Indeed, what we see over and over is “can’t fail, can only be failed.”

This defines them such that they have no ideology, just symbols to rally around even as what is symbolized is changed, over and over.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:55:56am

re: #340 The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery

What they’re practicing isn’t even conservatism.

It’s just the invocation of the past to justify whatever is wanted in the present. It’s magical thinking where conjuring with tradition—invoking the idea of “the family,” “the free market,” or “real men”—substitutes for opening up those concepts and considering how they have subjective aspects, and how they fail.

Indeed, what we see over and over is “can’t fail, can only be failed.”

This defines them such that they have no ideology, just symbols to rally around even as what is symbolized is changed, over and over.

Indeex

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Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:55:58am

By the way, the same David French posted an article just days before the midterms declaring to his fellow “Never Trumpers” that Democrats had “not earned (their) votes.”

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lawhawk  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:56:11am
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lawhawk  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:56:35am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:57:04am

re: #342 Targetpractice

By the way, the same David French posted an article just days before the midterms declaring to his fellow “Never Trumpers” that Democrats had “not earned (their) votes.”

I don’t want his vote.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 10:59:33am

Never Trumpers refuse to act like there’s anything inherently wrong or flawed with their ideology or that their ideology’s problems made it easy for Trump to use it.

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Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:00:04am

re: #343 lawhawk

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The “crisis” that wingnuts see and Trump is supposedly going to protect them from is the one he has totally failed over the past two years to end: The influx of “those people” into this country that is threatening the future of the white majority. He’s pushing a wall because everything he’s tried, from “zero tolerance,” to family separations, to bans, to border closures, and military deployments have utterly failed to solve the “crisis.” So the last thing has to offer is a Big Dig-style construction project that will drag on for years, cost tens of billions more than budgeted, and accomplish exactly dick.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:01:12am

NRO continues to do shit like whine about Buster Skaggs but we’re supposed to think they’re serious.

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Belafon  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:09:34am

re: #346 HappyWarrior

Never Trumpers refuse to act like there’s anything inherently wrong or flawed with their ideology or that their ideology’s problems made it easy for Trump to use it.

What I think a lot of them believe is that if they can remove the racism, they can just become the conservative party. The problem is that, in their current formulation, they can’t remove the racism because it currently runs the party. The only reason the Democrats were able to was that people like LBJ ended up running the party, and while no one is perfect, he listened to people like MLK.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:10:24am

re: #349 Belafon

What I think a lot of them believe is that if they can remove the racism, they can just become the conservative party. The problem is that, in their current formulation, they can’t remove the racism because it currently runs the party. The only reason the Democrats were able to was that people like LBJ ended up running the party, and while no one is perfect, he listened to people like MLK.

Exactly

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jaunte  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:13:01am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:13:21am

re: #349 Belafon

They are not racists, some of their best friends are _________________.

They are not racists they are racial realists.

“If you are going to call everyone who uses that word a racist, then I’m a racist”

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jaunte  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:14:15am
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Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:15:04am

re: #349 Belafon

What I think a lot of them believe is that if they can remove the racism, they can just become the conservative party. The problem is that, in their current formulation, they can’t remove the racism because it currently runs the party. The only reason the Democrats were able to was that people like LBJ ended up running the party, and while no one is perfect, he listened to people like MLK.

They’ve had to welcome people into the “Big Tent” time and time again over the years in order to remain a viable party, thinking those they drove out were too small on their own to be a danger to the party’s future. Whether it was appealing to racists, to evangelicals, to bigots, to nationalists, or isolationists, they found some way to sell the party’s doctrine as the cure for what ailed them.

Now they’re realizing that the people they kicked out from the tent have not only banded together, but their numbers have grown so large that they pose an existential threat to the future of modern conservatism. By contrast, the people they brought into the tent are dying out because their own beliefs are outdated, are increasingly unpopular, and becoming more archaic with each passing year. So that all they have left is to do what they do now: Screaming at the opposition “YOU USED TO AGREE WITH US!”

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jaunte  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:15:12am

Idiot, But Not Useful.

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steve_davis  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:17:07am

re: #5 goddamnedfrank

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or better yet, why doesn’t it get off its ass, open itself up so it can see what’s in there, and pop the top off a beer for me?

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Mattand  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:17:52am

re: #335 Charles Johnson

Really getting sick of never-Trumper articles that:

1) Blame Trump on liberals.

2) Pretend he came out of nowhere and surprised them all.

3) Still support every one of his fucked up policies.

I cannot upvote #2 enough. That is the one that drives me up the fucking wall.

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plansbandc  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:18:21am
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jaunte  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:21:36am

Inauguration Day for Alabama Governor Kay Ivey

Not complete without some Slavery Days nostalgia.

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Jay C  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:21:52am

re: #351 jaunte

Mrs. Jay and I were watching, on the afternoon news, that clip of The Asshole blithering on about his “not working for Russia/never worked for Russia” BS, and we both were struck by the same thought: for a generally inarticulate buffoon, Trump can be very precise when he wants to obfuscate an issue: he framed his outraged response in specific terms: I.e. there’s no actual ruble-denominated paycheck from Kremlin Associates, LLC with his name on it, so “no work”…..

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:24:30am

re: #357 Mattand

I cannot upvote #2 enough. That is the one that drives me up the fucking wall.

Yep same or blaming him on the left.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:24:54am

re: #360 Jay C

Mrs. Jay and I were watching, on the afternoon news, that clip of The Asshole blithering on about his “not working for Russia/never worked for Russia” BS, and we both were struck by the same thought: for a generally inarticulate buffoon, Trump can be very precise when he wants to obfuscate an issue: he framed his outraged response in specific terms: I.e. there’s no actual ruble-denominated paycheck from Kremlin Associates, LLC with his name on it, so “no work”…..

I think he can viably prove that he has never worked a day in his life…

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Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:25:42am

Faux brings on sheriff of Pima Ct, AZ to do the usual “Tell us all about how horrible things are on the border” business, before asking as the last question if he thinks a barrier would help in the long stretches where none exist right now besides natural ones. Quickly shuffle him off when he starts pointing out all the flaws in such an approach, namely said natural barriers, the fact that artificial barriers don’t do much to impede border crossings if not properly maintained, and that we need a “blended approach” of barriers with sensors/drones.

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jaunte  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:26:12am

re: #360 Jay C

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wrenchwench  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:26:33am

re: #315 Belafon

A story about a wall and race: dailykos.com

As always, it’s what you DO, not what you say, that gets attention.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:28:30am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:29:27am
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steve_davis  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:29:41am

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

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NINE FAMILY BIBLES

good fucking grief

jesus, that poor woman looks like her biceps are spasming.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:30:35am

re: #353 jaunte

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Trump to the American Farm Bureau convention on Sen. John Kennedy: “This is a man who is totally brilliant. I don’t know if you know what this means: Oxford. He went to Oxford. I’m very much into the world of schools. Oxford — you have to be very, very smart to go to Oxford.”

I’m guessing this means he really REALLY likes Rachel Maddow, right?

RIGHT????

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jaunte  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:31:31am

re: #369 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m very much into the world of schools.

Infinite Screaming

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:32:50am

Then do something about it, Lisa

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Targetpractice  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:34:54am

re: #371 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Then do something about it, Lisa

“I am doing something. I’m very concerned and very dismayed!”

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Belafon  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:36:09am

re: #371 Backwoods_Sleuth

Then do something about it, Lisa

A question for the political people: What can be done to get around McConnell’s blocking the Senate?

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steve_davis  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:37:02am

re: #73 jeffreyw

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Good morning! Can anyone ID this bird?

it is a yellow warbler in need of some rhinoplasty. either that, or it is a titmouse not in need of rhinoplasty but hip replacement.

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Jay C  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:37:32am

re: #371 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Then do something about it, Lisa

Well, Sen. Murkowski is a Republican, so by GOP standards, she is doing something. She’s expressing her concern. And it’s an important issue, so I’m sure the Senator has Very Serious Concern.
Very Serious.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:38:05am

JFC This “Farmers” speech (thread)

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jaunte  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:38:40am
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jaunte  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:43:12am
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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:45:15am

re: #373 Belafon

A question for the political people: What can be done to get around McConnell’s blocking the Senate?

A string of vulnerable GOP senators up for re-election next year seeing their poll numbers start to tank bigly?

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jaunte  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:47:44am

Oh look, Sirota still hasn’t let go of his current obsession:

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:48:20am

re: #378 jaunte

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When Germany got rid of your grandfather and when your mother left Scotland, Scotland and Germany’s gain became our loss, you fucking asshole.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:48:33am

well surgery on my thumb was a success. they did have to cut it open but oh well, 1 hr surgery, 1 hr in recovery, now home munching on chicken nuggets and a sweet tea since i was fooking starving lol.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:49:28am

re: #380 jaunte

Oh look, Sirota still hasn’t let go of his current obsession:

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Okay Dave, let’s look at Tulsi and Bernie’s record the same way you are Beto’s. Hmmmm I see one who had their immigration record praised by Steve King (know him?) and another who opposed refugees. And you still haven’t apologized for blatantly misreprsenting Beto and people from the oil and gas industry, you lying hack.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:49:50am

re: #368 steve_davis

jesus, that poor woman looks like her biceps are spasming.

We get stronger as we age. When I was a young soldier I couldn’t even lift $20 worth of beer. Now I can carry it out of the store and across the parking lot with one hand.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:50:26am

But speaking of quite literally hating democracy. Gee I remember the Berners who wanted the DNC delegates to ignore that more people and especially more Democrats preferred Clinton over Bernie but that didn’t matter to Dave and his cult of Bernie.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:51:19am

re: #367 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Thank you Congressman Rush. This is actually doing something. What your Republican colleagues are doing is their usual whole lotta nothing.

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jaunte  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:55:25am

re: #385 HappyWarrior

But speaking of quite literally hating democracy. Gee I remember the Berners who wanted the DNC delegates to ignore that more people and especially more Democrats preferred Clinton over Bernie but that didn’t matter to Dave and his cult of Bernie.

They have always reminded me of the fight between the Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks.

In his notes at the time Lenin called his group ‘hards’ and his opponents ‘softs’. When a delegate lamented that uncomradely attitudes were spoiling the congress, Lenin sharply replied that, on the contrary, he relished a good open fight instead of endless inconclusive talk. His attitude was attacked as elitist and tyrannical. The youthful Trotsky, now and for years to come a Menshevik, reportedly told Lenin at one point, ‘That’s dictatorship you’re advocating,’ to which Lenin replied, ‘There is no other way.’
historytoday.com

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:56:42am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:57:02am

re: #387 jaunte

They have always reminded me of the fight between the Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks.

The whole Bernie or bust shit is obscene. But I guess they’re being more inclusive since now it’s Bernie or okay maybe if he flops Tulsi.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:57:39am

re: #388 Charles Johnson

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It was working so of course Trump got rid of it.

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jaunte  Jan 14, 2019 • 11:59:43am

My senior senator is an idiot.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:02:13pm

It’s as if they want to all commit political suicide before our very eyes

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:02:15pm

re: #391 jaunte

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My senior senator is an idiot.

Uh no. A bunch of yahoo’s with hunting rifles isn’t a coastal defense, you moron but then again you pretend to act like you’re in touch with the average American by being grossed out by sushi. You and Cruz are in good competition with Mitch and Rand for the worst Senate Duo in the nation but at least Rand and Mitch don’t do stupid shit like that on the regular basis that you and Cruz do to make yourselves look like something other than the right wing hacks you really are.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:02:38pm

re: #392 Myron Falwell

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It’s as if they want to all commit political suicide before our very eyes

He’s losing this and he knows it.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:02:58pm

re: #391 jaunte

My senior senator is an idiot.

Defending everyone from the great quail menace, I see

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:03:03pm
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Jay C  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:04:41pm

re: #391 jaunte

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My senior senator is an idiot.

Yeah, but when ISIS sends its squadrons of Suicide Terror Ducks swarming in to invade our coastal wetlands, you’ll be thanking these brave citizens…

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lawhawk  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:05:19pm

re: #396 Charles Johnson

So, trespassing… to prove what point exactly? That Loomer’s an attention whore who should seek mental health assistance? That it’s quite possible she could handcuff herself to a stationary object and lose the key and no one would care (as what happened with the Twitter stunt)?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:07:06pm

re: #396 Charles Johnson

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Mr. and Mrs. Loomer, please go collect your daughter.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:07:14pm

re: #396 Charles Johnson

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:07:23pm

re: #387 jaunte

They have always reminded me of the fight between the Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks.

Also illustrates the folly of letting one side set the terminology. Lenin’s faction won a procedural vote at one poorly attended Party Congress in 1903, and they were forever after Bolsheviki—“Men of the Majority” and their opponents Mensheviki—“Men of the minority”.

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jaunte  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:07:37pm

Amazing contrast between politicians like Ocasio-Cortez who understand how to use social media to move a message into the national conversation, and clowns like John Cornyn.

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:07:41pm

re: #395 Myron Falwell

Defending everyone from the great quail menace, I see

Probably ducks.

It it were quail they’d be all pointing in different directions and possibly getting in each other’s way.

But what it really is…a well staged photo op.

If I were the photog, I sure as hell would be no where near the front of those idiots and their guns.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:07:43pm

re: #398 lawhawk

So, trespassing… to prove what point exactly? That Loomer’s an attention whore who should seek mental health assistance? That it’s quite possible she could handcuff herself to a stationary object and lose the key and no one would care (as what happened with the Twitter stunt)?

I wish she would just lock herself in her room and leave the rest of us alone. Gotta love how AOC is “nuts” but this person is just fine.

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John Hughes  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:08:20pm

re: #52 freetoken

There is still a year before it all unravels. After 30 March, there is still until 2020 as the EU and the UK operate on the old relationship.

The “transition period” is still a period, even if the transition turns out to be a step function.

No.

If the withdrawal deal is not accepted by parliament there is no transition period.

There is a disorderly Brexit on 29th March 2019.

In 74 days.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:08:46pm

re: #402 jaunte

Amazing contrast between politicians like Ocasio-Cortez who understand how to use social media to move a message into the national conversation, and clowns like John Cornyn.

Well ACO has been using social media for a lot of her life. Cornyn is what happens when you decide to help your Grandpa set up a Facebook account.

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lawhawk  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:08:49pm

re: #400 Dr. Matt

Now, if it were electrified and there were a bunch of jack booted thugs who would shoot down anyone trying to scale the fence… you know like these guys:

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Dr. Matt  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:09:05pm

It’s just after noon on a Monday in California. Why isn’t Laura Loomer at work?

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Sir John Barron  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:09:09pm

re: #388 Charles Johnson

We support LEGAL immigration. People who come here the right way.

And those people who actually show up for their hearings, trying to get legal…what total losers, not Smart. Who wants them? Should just fade into the population, that’s what I’d do.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:09:13pm

re: #396 Charles Johnson

DO NOT LET THE DOGS OUT !!!
Until she handcuffs herself to something.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:09:38pm

re: #408 Dr. Matt

It’s just after noon on a Monday in California. Why isn’t Laura Loomer at work?

THIS is her work.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:09:53pm

re: #408 Dr. Matt

It’s just after noon on a Monday in California. Why isn’t Laura Loomer at work?

Sacrificing herself for The Cause.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:10:13pm

re: #409 Sir John Barron

We support LEGAL immigration. People who come here the right way.

And those people who actually show up for their hearings, trying to get legal…what total losers, not Smart. Who wants them? Should just fade into the population, that’s what I’d do.

They keep on insisting they want legal immigration yet they want to make legal immigration a nightmare for people.

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:10:34pm

re: #399 HappyWarrior

Mr. and Mrs. Loomer, please go collect your daughter.

They may not want her.

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Jay C  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:10:58pm

re: #396 Charles Johnson

re: #398 lawhawk

So, trespassing… to prove what point exactly? That Loomer’s an attention whore who should seek mental health assistance? That it’s quite possible she could handcuff herself to a stationary object and lose the key and no one would care (as what happened with the Twitter stunt)?

Also, too: yellow vests? Aren’t the “gilets jaunes” the mark of Euro Communists? Or are they fascists? Hard to tell without a program…
And I thought Laura Looney was broke due to Twitter unjustly barring her from grifting fundraising on their platform? Yet she can still make her way out to California?

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Kilroy was here  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:11:18pm

re: #396 Charles Johnson

They should just turn the sprinklers on and let her yell..

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Sir John Barron  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:11:40pm

re: #391 jaunte

My senior senator is an idiot.

So…we don’t need a Wall, we just need people with gunz?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:11:58pm

re: #414 ObserverArt

They may not want her.

I know heh. I was kind of spoofing the idea about her being an unruly child in a grocery or department store.

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makeitstop  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:12:29pm

re: #358 plansbandc

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Video

You just can’t miss those Trevor Horn productions. So clean.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:12:36pm

re: #416 Kilroy was here

They should just turn the sprinklers on and let here yell..

Crazy Laura then files lawsuit against Nancy Smash for assaulting her with water hoses.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:13:04pm

re: #408 Dr. Matt

It’s just after noon on a Monday in California. Why isn’t Laura Loomer at work?

And why do I still keep reading “Lisa Loopner” the first time through?

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jaunte  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:13:17pm

re: #417 Sir John Barron

So…we don’t need a Wall, we just need people with gunz?

I could support sending the Freedom Caucus to guard the border in between entry ports.

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freetoken  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:14:07pm

re: #405 John Hughes

No.

If the withdrawal deal is not accepted by parliament there is no transition period.

There is a disorderly Brexit on 29th March 2019.

In 74 days.

It will be a step function.

This is an example of a step function: goo.gl

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:14:31pm

re: #394 HappyWarrior

He’s losing this and he knows it.

If Rick is to be believed here, it could be way worse:

No doubt in my mind that not only has Trump lost this in a disastrous fashion and keeps bringing it up and still losing, he’s now starting to take the rest of the party down with him.

Let it happen.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:14:38pm

Is California a Castle Doctrine or Stand-your-ground state? Asking for a friend….named Nancy Pelosi…..

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Sir John Barron  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:15:45pm

re: #424 Myron Falwell

If Rick is to be believed here, it’s could be way worse:

No doubt in my mind that not only has Trump lost this in a disastrous fashion and keeps bringing it up and still losing, he’s now starting to take the rest of the party down with him.

Let it happen.

He’ll just double down, take credit for the shutdown, blame Dems for the shutdown, say he never met the shutdown, the shutdown was just a coffee boy….

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:16:15pm

re: #408 Dr. Matt

It’s just after noon on a Monday in California. Why isn’t Laura Loomer at work?

Work? Her? Surely you jest.

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lawhawk  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:17:39pm

re: #424 Myron Falwell

A bunch of GOP leaders were briefed about Russia-Trump, and they sat on it. McConnell and Ryan refused to issue a joint statement with Obama.

So yeah, take that with a grain of salt. They’ll say and do anything to put party ahead of nation.

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Belafon  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:18:14pm

re: #396 Charles Johnson

re: #400 Dr. Matt

Pelosi should offer her asylumn and a chance to become a Pelosi.

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:18:25pm

re: #426 Sir John Barron

He’ll just double down, take credit for the shutdown, blame Dems for the shutdown, say he never met the shutdown, the shutdown was just a coffee boy….

He’ll blame his “actors” for everything.

And then he will say that is why he never gave them official titles, they weren’t good enough for Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:19:27pm

re: #428 lawhawk

A bunch of GOP leaders were briefed about Russia-Trump, and they sat on it. McConnell and Ryan refused to issue a joint statement with Obama.

So yeah, take that with a grain of salt. They’ll say and do anything to put party ahead of nation.

They’ll only start to worry when Trump becomes a threat to their personal power.

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John Hughes  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:19:55pm

re: #123 Sionainn, Fierce Mother

When are we supposed to get the results of his yearly physical exam?

He can’t release it because he’s being audited.

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Belafon  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:19:55pm

re: #413 HappyWarrior

They keep on insisting they want legal immigration yet they want to make legal immigration a nightmare for people.

Thereby confirming they don’t want immigration.

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Jay C  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:20:07pm

re: #425 Dr. Matt

Is California a Castle Doctrine or Stand-your-ground state? Asking for a friend….named Nancy Pelosi…..

Naaah, I’d just go with the sprinkler idea: and fall back on the Water-your-ground Doctrine ?? ?? ?? …

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:20:46pm

re: #433 Belafon

Thereby confirming they don’t want immigration.

Yeah they don’t. Trump and Miller both support RAISE.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:21:48pm

re: #428 lawhawk

A bunch of GOP leaders were briefed about Russia-Trump, and they sat on it. McConnell and Ryan refused to issue a joint statement with Obama.

So yeah, take that with a grain of salt. They’ll say and do anything to put party ahead of nation.

Which is why I expect them to all go down in flames with Trump. They have no way out that doesn’t involve them being humiliated in some way… even if it meant trying to save their re-election chances next November.

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Interesting Times  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:22:28pm

She doesn’t speculate on what, exactly, that “something else” is…but I’ll hazard a guess that - given how many media execs are creepy, rapey Les-Moonves-style sociopaths - it’s metric fucktons of compromat.

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lawhawk  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:22:56pm

re: #431 HappyWarrior

They’ll only start to worry when Trump becomes a threat to their personal power.

It’s telling that they don’t consider the current situation that threat.

Now ask why… that’s what media outlets need to be investigating the hell out of right now.

In an ordinary situation where a leader is toxic and poses an existential threat to the party, let alone the nation, you’d force a resignation but there’s no effort here to do that.

So what’s going on? The base loves Trump and his reactionary know nothing bigotry hate, and policies that further the hate. The leaders that would move him to resign are keyed to this, so they wont act.

And by the time it’s clear that they have to act, it’ll be too late to have an alternative.

Not that I mind that outcome - the GOP is irredeemable.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:25:14pm

re: #391 jaunte

It was a joke, right,….?

Right?

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:28:23pm

re: #439 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Some would think so. In this case probably not.

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jaunte  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:31:37pm
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jaunte  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:34:33pm

Laura Loomer apparently tried to open the door to Pelosi’s house.

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lawhawk  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:37:12pm

re: #442 jaunte

So, breaking and entering, trespass, and loitering? Yeah, she’s going all in on the derp-a-thon.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:37:14pm
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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:38:18pm

re: #438 lawhawk

It’s telling that they don’t consider the current situation that threat.

Now ask why… that’s what media outlets need to be investigating the hell out of right now.

In an ordinary situation where a leader is toxic and poses an existential threat to the party, let alone the nation, you’d force a resignation but there’s no effort here to do that.

So what’s going on? The base loves Trump and his reactionary know nothing bigotry hate, and policies that further the hate. The leaders that would move him to resign are keyed to this, so they wont act.

And by the time it’s clear that they have to act, it’ll be too late to have an alternative.

Not that I mind that outcome - the GOP is irredeemable.

They were probably told by those pollsters that Trump’s base is starting to fall apart over this. The erosion of support with the non-college crowd is not insignificant. Add to that the ever-present execution of the Law of Diminishing Returns as Donny keeps saying more ridiculous and inflammatory rhetoric, giving speeches that immediately fall flat, making extra-constitutional threats and not following through on any of them… and it’s not helping.

And they’re still dug in firmly with their heads in the sand. Poll numbers be damned. The threat of losing multiple senators next November be damned.

I think we’re at the point where they are just playing out the string and not doing anything because they know the inevitable is coming. It’s a bizarre hill for them to die on, but I guess that’s the choice they’ve all made.

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John Hughes  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:39:57pm

re: #224 sagehen

The White House cooks are all on furlough, right? Donny’s going to feed ‘em macdonalds ‘cos that’s all he can afford.

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Jay C  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:40:11pm

re: #442 jaunte

re: #443 lawhawk

So, breaking and entering, trespass, and loitering? Yeah, she’s going all in on the derp-a-thon.

SRSLY, I thought the “Law and Order” RW crowd would applaud trespassers and “illegals” getting busted for their offenses…

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Belafon  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:40:14pm

re: #443 lawhawk

So, breaking and entering, trespass, and loitering? Yeah, she’s going all in on the derp-a-thon.

She’s trying for “If illegals can break into our country, why can’t I break into her house” defense.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:41:29pm

Is Laura Loomer the same twit who handcuffed herself to the Twitter building?

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Jay C  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:43:01pm

re: #449 Eclectic Cyborg

Is Laura Loomer the same twit who handcuffed herself to the Twitter building?

Yep. Fortunately, there’s only one of her….

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:44:29pm

re: #437 Interesting Times

She doesn’t speculate on what, exactly, that “something else” is…but I’ll hazard a guess that - given how many media execs are creepy, rapey Les-Moonves-style sociopaths - it’s metric fucktons of compromat.

Never mind the media execs, look at who owns them. All of the major broadcast networks and CNN are owned by companies with film studios and production units that do business oversees, especially in China. The NYT has had a sister paper in Paris for decades. And the WaPo is co-managed with one of the largest companies in the world, Amazon.

With their overall footprints it’s no surprise that they’d withhold certain things. And I’m not even counting Les Moonves’ obvious boasts or Rupert Murdoch running a disinformation powerhouse on cable.

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Interesting Times  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:45:05pm

Ugh. As if twitter trolls weren’t bad enough:

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:45:36pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:46:10pm

hre: #391 jaunte

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My senior senator is an idiot.

they are guarding us from marauding migratory birds?

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Belafon  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:48:26pm

re: #452 Interesting Times

Ugh. As if twitter trolls weren’t bad enough:

If anyone has a DK account, this needs to be a quick diary there. I can’t do it at work.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:49:04pm

re: #396 Charles Johnson

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somebody needs to turn on the lawn sprinklers

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:52:29pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:56:22pm
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Eventual Carrion  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:57:14pm

re: #360 Jay C

Mrs. Jay and I were watching, on the afternoon news, that clip of The Asshole blithering on about his “not working for Russia/never worked for Russia” BS, and we both were struck by the same thought: for a generally inarticulate buffoon, Trump can be very precise when he wants to obfuscate an issue: he framed his outraged response in specific terms: I.e. there’s no actual ruble-denominated paycheck from Kremlin Associates, LLC with his name on it, so “no work”…..

Yeah, ‘cause that’s how money laundering works. You write a check.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:57:50pm
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Sir John Barron  Jan 14, 2019 • 12:59:05pm

re: #441 jaunte

“Extreme stupidity in the cause of conservatism is no vice.”

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2019 • 1:00:54pm
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Sir John Barron  Jan 14, 2019 • 1:02:36pm

re: #462 Charles Johnson

This outta make the Dems in congress cave to Wall $$$$.

//

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 1:03:11pm

“Sensitive” to what? An issue that is disproportionately in their favor?

McConnell knows they won’t crack. Doing this stunt on the senate floor won’t change anything and actually shows a sense of growing weakness. IMO.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 1:04:29pm

re: #460 goddamnedfrank

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Laura really isn’t too bright is she?

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bd(it's all true)  Jan 14, 2019 • 1:07:33pm

re: #465 HappyWarrior

Laura really isn’t too bright is she?

She’ll be the smartest one in jail, just ask her!

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 14, 2019 • 1:08:03pm

re: #396 Charles Johnson

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So according to the NRA Nancy would be well within her rights to shoot her since she invaded her property?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2019 • 1:09:13pm

re: #460 goddamnedfrank

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try that at my house and you’ll get an appropriate greeting through the door.

iffen you get my drift…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2019 • 1:11:13pm

re: #462 Charles Johnson

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RELEASE THE CANADA GEESE AND GUINEA FOWL!!!

OH, AND THE CORGIS, TOO, FOR GOOD MEASURE!!!

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 14, 2019 • 1:11:21pm
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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 1:11:55pm

Laura Loomer looks like an absolute moron here who needs to be tased out of mercy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2019 • 1:12:48pm

re: #470 Ace-o-aces

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getting a prenup is never going to be one of Jacob’s issues in life.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 1:14:30pm

re: #470 Ace-o-aces

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Is that why Bezos is richer than Trump, Jacob? No matter how much you suck him off, he’s still going to love Ivanka more.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 1:15:07pm

re: #472 Backwoods_Sleuth

getting a prenup is never going to be one of Jacob’s issues in life.

Ha

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Mike Lamb  Jan 14, 2019 • 1:16:52pm

re: #442 jaunte

Laura Loomer apparently tried to open the door to Pelosi’s house.

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So help me out…why isn’t this a situation of arrest first and then sort it out at the station? I know she probably wants that, but she’s most clearly trespassing.

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jaunte  Jan 14, 2019 • 1:18:16pm

re: #475 Mike Lamb

Maybe someone in the police department knows that’s what she wants, and is denying her.

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jaunte  Jan 14, 2019 • 1:20:52pm
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plansbandc  Jan 14, 2019 • 1:21:35pm

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Sir John Barron  Jan 14, 2019 • 1:21:49pm

re: #476 jaunte

Maybe someone in the police department knows that’s what she wants, and is denying her.

She must be hoping to get a MAGA badge.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 14, 2019 • 1:22:07pm

just finished the drive home

Sunday lizards know i hit this streak and ran 78 days up to the day before the dopey. Those runs included 30+ mile weekends with 20+ mile sundays.
Chasing these kinds of meaningless ‘records’ dont usually interest me and forcing them is bad and can be counterproductive.

and of course the dopey 4 days was more or less ‘guaranteed’

Nevertheless

It was ‘important’ to see if i could run at all the day after a marathon, and especially a dopey one. (dont ask me why. it’s all an obsession)
I slightly injured one of my toes yesterday and prudence would have said to take the day or a couple. And normally i would have listened.

Nevertheless

I ran around 30 minutes. Oh yes, slowly and easily.
It wasn’t particularly ‘graceful’. a fair bit achy and yet not all that difficult.

Now i could even give up tomorrow and be happy. though we’ll see wont we? After all it would be day 84.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 14, 2019 • 1:22:39pm

re: #477 jaunte

Wow, GG sure has busted us all again.

/

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 1:23:19pm

re: #477 jaunte

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How about her words and rhetoric. Fuck off already Glenn.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 14, 2019 • 1:23:41pm

re: #476 jaunte

Maybe someone in the police department knows that’s what she wants, and is denying her.

Pretty much what happened with the Twitter HQ stunt. The police just let go on and on like the crazy woman she is, and she eventually gave up and left.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2019 • 1:24:07pm

re: #481 Sir John Barron

Wow, GG sure has busted us all again.

/

He sure showed us!

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lawhawk  Jan 14, 2019 • 1:26:30pm

re: #473 HappyWarrior

Bezos could take a million dollar money bath every day for a decade and still have billions of dollars left over.

Trump’s net worth is a rounding error to Bezos.

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Citizen K  Jan 14, 2019 • 1:29:40pm

Despite all things going on in the industry, I still consider myself a wrestling fan. That fact makes me understand all too well how utterly deranged the McMahon family can be, not even counting their on-screen characters. That said, there are some understatedly amazing folks employed by the WWE. Sami Zayn, for one, has used his time and fame to help rally for Syrian refugees (being a Canadian of Syrian descent).

Mustafa Ali is another, who not only has managed to get accepted by the WWE fanbase despite his initial start as a bitter foreign heel (and lets face it, overtly Muslim wrestlers are always a hard sell in this dumb country), but has been fairly open about certain experiences. He details how and why he decided to resign as a police officer in Chicago during an interview with former ring announcer Lilian Garcia (Ignore the comments. It IS Reddit, after all). Bullet points:

* He was aware how people panic over traffic stops and warrants
* He went through outstanding warrants and used the relevant emergency contacts
* He managed to encourage a lot of parents to convince their kids to come in to process the traffic warrants rather than blindside them.
* Despite managing to process all these warrants without issue, he got reprimanded for not going on the street and ‘rounding them up’.

Considering the shit about police violence and the actual, official scoring of de-escalation tactics by depts these days, him walking out on principle is a damn thing.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 14, 2019 • 1:38:17pm

re: #442 jaunte

Laura Loomer apparently tried to open the door to Pelosi’s house.

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Cuff ‘em and stuff ‘em. Fucking idiots.

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austin_blue  Jan 14, 2019 • 1:43:55pm

re: #73 jeffreyw

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Good morning! Can anyone ID this bird?

allaboutbirds.org

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jeffreyw  Jan 14, 2019 • 2:02:14pm

re: #488 austin_blue

allaboutbirds.org

Thanks!


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