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Seth takes a closer look at accusations that Trump worked for a foreign government and the federal government’s ongoing shutdown.
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NEW: Trump has privately told senior administration officials that he wants to withdraw from NATO altogether, per @julianbarnes @helenecooper https://t.co/dJRpexzDgB
— Amy Fiscus (@amyfiscus) January 15, 2019
“The obstruction is collusion” should ring through every Senator’s ears as they hold the confirmation hearing for a DOJ nominee who was nominated to obstruct justice. https://t.co/DttLSCTals
— Jesse Lee (@JesseCharlesLee) January 15, 2019
No arrest for Laura Loomer, who’s being let off with a warning for trespassing at Nancy Pelosi’s house / trying the doors on the house to see if they were locked.
— Will Sommer (@willsommer) January 14, 2019
Remember when a group of people showed up to Tucker Carlson’s house, knocked too hard on the door, & everyone called them a violent mob? And then Laura Loomer brought a group of people to the home of the Speaker of the House, jumped a fence, tried to get inside, and … silence. https://t.co/FI1zsPWPMv
— Caroline Orr (@RVAwonk) January 15, 2019
re: #2 Anymouse ??
Not silence. Wasn’t that funny? And profound? ///
So, I don’t know what this means, but apparently the magnetic pole is moving something like 40-50 km a year.
Gossip time…It seems Rosario Dawson is dating Corey Booker. Booker backed Clinton. Dawson is Susan Sarandon with a shorter resume, but just as obnoxious.
So we should be hearing Sarandon is dating Al Franken any day now. Makes about as much sense.
And, to be clear, Trump only tweeted about NATO once before he ran for president. He said Israel should be invited to a NATO meeting. Why did he just decide to start wanting to pull out of NATO when Manafort was hired?
— Peter “Steve” McCarthy (@DjRodgers1231) January 15, 2019
re: #4 Anymouse ??
Or a Russian useful idiot.
Spouting Russian propaganda about the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan makes him a useful idiot. Suggesting we should withdraw from a pillar of the post-War order, which just happens to be a central goal of the Russian government, makes him an agent
re: #8 Swampwitch
Gossip time…It seems Rosario Dawson is dating Corey Booker. Booker backed Clinton. Dawson is Susan Sarandon with a shorter resume, but just as obnoxious.
So we should be hearing Sarandon is dating Al Franken any day now. Makes about as much sense.
Eh? Couples can disagree. It’s interesting tho because will Rosario back Cory or Bernie.
“Now, the president’s repeatedly stated desire to withdraw from NATO is raising new worries among national security officials amid growing concern about Mr. Trump’s efforts to keep his meetings with Mr. Putin secret from even his own aides…” https://t.co/TEul0mBBRo
— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) January 15, 2019
But you know, her E-mails.
re: #10 KGxvi
Spouting Russian propaganda about the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan makes him a useful idiot. Suggesting we should withdraw from a pillar of the post-War order, which just happens to be a central goal of the Russian government, makes him an agent
Absolutely
re: #11 HappyWarrior
Eh? Couples can disagree. It’s interesting tho because will Rosario back Cory or Bernie.
Corey… she’ll get to be First Lady.
From the previous thread:
“McJesus” art sculpture in Israeli museum sparks violent protests https://t.co/NsX2VMtqkI pic.twitter.com/iimmyfxXaR
— The Hill (@thehill) January 15, 2019
re: #150 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
Honestly, it’s pretty stupid, but rioting? Come on, guys. It’s a piece of art. Lighten the fuck up.
Stupid? That’s a better criticism of modern Christianity than Piss Christ.
re: #14 KGxvi
Corey… she’ll get to be First Lady.
Can I just say that I’m glad Cory being unmarried doesn’t look like it will be an issue. Just like Kamala not having kids.
re: #11 HappyWarrior
Sure couples can disagree. But Dawson was just as sickening as Sarandon and so many other Bernie Broads in their very vocal hatred for Hillary. She won’t be an asset for Booker if he runs for POTUS. At least not with this Democrat.
re: #9 jaunte
“Why did he just decide to start wanting to pull out of NATO when Manafort was hired?”
Ooooh oooh I know the answer!
re: #11 HappyWarrior
Eh? Couples can disagree.
My mother voted for Hillary Clinton. My father did not, though he did not vote for Fuckface Von Clownstick.
Plus useful idiots were those naive about the USSR’s reality. Trump is someone with power with the ability to impact what the Kremlin wants. He’s an idiot but useful idiot is more what he was in the Obama years.
re: #19 teleskiguy
My mother voted for Hillary Clinton. My father did not, though he did not vote for Fuckface Von Clownstick.
My mother and step-father both supported Sanders. When it came down to election day, they pulled the lever for Clinton (and for my mother, that was the first time she ever voted).
re: #17 Swampwitch
Sure couples can disagree. But Dawson was just as sickening as Sarandon and so many other Bernie Broads in their very vocal hatred for Hillary. She won’t be an asset for Booker if he runs for POTUS. At least not with this Democrat.
Look at Mary Maitlin and James Carville.
This is really disturbing tho. And this shit is just going to isolate us more and more from allies.
re: #16 HappyWarrior
Can I just say that I’m glad Cory being unmarried doesn’t look like it will be an issue. Just like Kamala not having kids.
Hopefully we are past that kind of stuff. But I don’t remember Brown being single being an issue in 1992.
re: #22 HappyWarrior
True. Weird, but lasting. Of course, neither of them will ever run for president.
re: #24 KGxvi
Hopefully we are past that kind of stuff. But I don’t remember Brown being single being an issue in 1992.
Wasn’t he a divorcee at that point? But true enough.
re: #11 HappyWarrior
Eh? Couples can disagree. It’s interesting tho because will Rosario back Cory or Bernie.
And then there’s George Conway and Kellyanne, that can’t be a healthy marriage by any means.
re: #22 HappyWarrior
Look at Mary Maitlin and James Carville.
A better example is the millions more women that support Democrats than men, a lot of those women being married.
On the bright side, since NATO was a ratified treaty, Trump would need Senate approval to withdraw. And I don’t think McConnell and company are that craven
My dad was extremely far right. And he loathed all women politicians. He very happily voted for Trump.
My mother is further left than I am. She voted for Clinton.
They were together for 60 years.
re: #25 Swampwitch
True. Weird, but lasting. Of course, neither of them will ever run for president.
We don’t even know how long Booker and Dawson will last. I hear ya tho. I didn’t like how she talked down to Dolores Huerta.
re: #26 HappyWarrior
Wasn’t he a divorcee at that point? But true enough.
I think he’s only been married this once, since 2005
re: #29 KGxvi
On the bright side, since NATO was a ratified treaty, Trump would need Senate approval to withdraw. And I don’t think McConnell and company are that craven
Good point.
re: #29 KGxvi
On the bright side, since NATO was a ratified treaty, Trump would need Senate approval to withdraw. And I don’t think McConnell and company are that craven
Maybe his declaring a national emergency to pull out of that will piss those who receive money from the MIC.
re: #28 Belafon
A better example is the millions more women that support Democrats than men, a lot of those women being married.
Yes even better.
This didn’t age well:
factcheck.org
“What’s Trump’s Position on NATO?”
Hillary Clinton went too far when she claimed that Donald Trump said “we should pull out of NATO.” Trump has said that he would “certainly look at” pulling the United States out of the international security alliance, because it is “obsolete” and “is costing us a fortune.” But the Clinton campaign provided nothing indicating that Trump advocates pulling out now.
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That might be another explanation of James Mattis leaving the White House.
I’m suspicious of the Conways. It’s a little unbelievable that President Petty hasn’t fired Kellyanne over her husband’s tweets. Feels a bit off.
re: #37 Anymouse ??
This didn’t age well:
factcheck.org
“What’s Trump’s Position on NATO?”(more)
That might be another explanation of James Mattis leaving the White House.
Right. Mattis is a hawk but he values allies,
re: #29 KGxvi
On the bright side, since NATO was a ratified treaty, Trump would need Senate approval to withdraw. And I don’t think McConnell and company are that craven
So was NAFTA….
re: #38 Swampwitch
I’m suspicious of the Conways. It’s a little unbelievable that President Petty hasn’t fired Kellyanne over her husband’s tweets. Feels a bit off.
Kayfabe.
Good description of the hollow man currently occupying the White House:
Best description of Donald: No affection for dogs or babies. No love for mothers, the common man or veterans.
The lady who wrote this nailed it. pic.twitter.com/gfLTPQIlJQ— Andreas Weber (@andreas_aweber) January 14, 2019
re: #40 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
So was NAFTA….
Is. Congress hasn’t voted on all this yet.
re: #38 Swampwitch
I’m suspicious of the Conways. It’s a little unbelievable that President Petty hasn’t fired Kellyanne over her husband’s tweets. Feels a bit off.
I tbh see that as them hedging their bets. If Trump succeeds to a second term, KAC is a loyal soldier for Trump and if he fails to get that, George was warning against his excesses. That said, some of his Trump disses are good.
re: #29 KGxvi
On the bright side, since NATO was a ratified treaty, Trump would need Senate approval to withdraw. And I don’t think McConnell and company are that craven
Even if McConnell wasn’t in a foolish position of his own making with the shutdown, he’d have a very difficult time getting enough support to ratify it (would it take 50 votes or 60?).
This story more serves as yet further self-incrimination against Trump, the king of self-incriminators not named Devin Nunes or George Papadapolous.
LOL
OK computer, enhance…. rotate 180 degrees…. Stop. Enhance once m— oh dear GOD no pic.twitter.com/T3tRnCoDkN
— please @ me for access to my powerful brain (@ChrisCaesar) January 15, 2019
re: #42 jaunte
Good description of the hollow man currently occupying the White House:
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No one like him that I can think of. Even Richard Nixon had soul as Neil Young said. Nixon could talk movingly about his mother and the tragedy of losing two brothers as a kid.
re: #38 Swampwitch
I’m suspicious of the Conways. It’s a little unbelievable that President Petty hasn’t fired Kellyanne over her husband’s tweets. Feels a bit off.
Very possible that neither of them want a divorce because of their children.
That’s really not a good thing.
I can’t even respect the man as a father. His oldest children are awful people. He shows no affection to his young son or other daughter. The Bush father and son you know they had real affection for their family. I saw a cute clip of Jenna Bush Hager shoeing a video Dubya sent to one of his granddaughters. Awful President who yeah did awful things but I could see a man there.
re: #49 Myron Falwell
Very possible that neither of them want a divorce because of their children.
That’s really not a good thing.
Both are ultra Catholic iirc. So that could be it and not just the kids. I don’t know tho.
re: #40 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
So was NAFTA….
I thought NAFTA was actually passed under fast track and thus not technically a treaty.
re: #48 HappyWarrior
I think Cheney is close. But Cheney is smart.
re: #42 jaunte
Good description of the hollow man currently occupying the White House:
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When he finally dies, the disparity of people mourning versus people celebrating will be more than obvious.
Hell, when he’s finally booted out of the White House, the dichotomy will be so deep, so pronounced.
And he put it all on himself by being a worthless shithead on a non-stop basis.
re: #43 Anymouse ??
And the Paris Climate Accords.
But Paris wasn’t ratified. It was signed but hadn’t been sent to the Senate… where I’m not sure it would have got 67 votes
re: #53 plansbandc
I think Cheney is close. But Cheney is smart.
That’s actually a good analogy. Trump if he were smart and grounded would be a lot like Cheney.
Note to GOP officials:
White folks I am going to need you to stop invoking Louis Farrakhan like hes some kind of folk hero for us. I don’t know or follow that man, or his ways nor do I appreciate people expecting us to apologize for him like hes some kind of All Uncle or something. FOH with that shit.
— Tynisa the Wakandan Shaman Walker (@Kalarigamerchic) January 15, 2019
So, it’s been snowing stoopid amounts in the Alps.
re: #57 jaunte
Note to GOP officials:
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Like they’d get that memo. Invoking Farrakhan is one of the last few effective parts of the GOP playbook to gin up their voters, not that it was terribly effective to begin with.
re: #59 Myron Falwell
Like they’d get that memo. Invoking Farrakhan is one of the last few effective parts of the GOP playbook to gin up their voters, not that it was terribly effective to begin with.
I imagine it will get less and less effective as time goes by.
I talked to a waitress in Bangor this morning whose husband works for TSA. They literally had to get a loan to pay their mortgage for this month. That’s just wrong. I continue to believe that a compromise is possible because this is a problem that we have to solve.
— Sen. Susan Collins (@SenatorCollins) January 15, 2019
Did you tell the waitress what you actually felt about a new wall at the border b4 Trump took over your party? There was no measurable amount of GOP who ever talked abt a wall. But now all of you are acting like it’s so much of necessity that you (Trump) shutdown the Government. https://t.co/DoAOL2k4Wf
— psychedelicatessen (@MentalRiot) January 15, 2019
Helpless Senator Susan
re: #61 HappyWarrior
I imagine it will get less and less effective as time goes by.
They’ll find a new scary non-white person
They said no take out cups for Margarita’s.
I obey the letter of the law, not the spirit of it. pic.twitter.com/ewFq7Gmbcf— Thom “F.” Badinger (@fdotny) January 12, 2019
Earlier this evening, President @realDonaldTrump treated the Clemson Tigers football team to dinner in the State Dining Room! #ALLIN pic.twitter.com/P5JAo6yzfR
— The White House (@WhiteHouse) January 15, 2019
This bitch literally put McDonalds fries in White House dixie cups? ?? lmao I’m done https://t.co/H5O0cT85uR
— LIZ?? (@Lizzasauros_Rex) January 15, 2019
re: #62 jaunte
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Helpless Senator Susan
Looks like Susan Collins is preparing for her future post-Senate life in 2021 as a LifeAlert spokesperson.
re: #61 HappyWarrior
I imagine it will get less and less effective as time goes by.
Yup, law of diminishing returns in play.
re: #66 Anymouse ??
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And we know the party had a clown but where was the moon bounce? They couldn’t find one nice place in DC to cater for this? Cheap assholes.
re: #68 Myron Falwell
Yup, law of diminishing returns in play.
It’s not as lame as when they used Alinsky as a go to or Bill Ayers but it’s up there.
This is the news photo that would make a returning time traveler realize they fucked something up pic.twitter.com/DwKe35Uicm
— Jess Dweck (@TheDweck) January 15, 2019
Marty never got the almanac off Biff. https://t.co/lWsvSNUt2C
— Chris Evans (@ChrisEvans) January 15, 2019
re: #52 KGxvi
I thought NAFTA was actually passed under fast track and thus not technically a treaty.
NAFTA was ratified by the three countries’ national legislatures in 1993 and went into effect on January 1, 1994.
re: #66 Anymouse ??
It cannot be understated just how much Trump utterly failed at this. If he was trying to pressure Democrats (especially by moving this visit up from April, which was when Alabama showed up), that didn’t work. He came off a fucking joke and his tasteless garishness really showed itself.
re: #71 jaunte
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Should have known something was up when the Cubs beat Cleveland rather than Miami and a year too late.
re: #72 Anymouse ??
NAFTA was ratified by the three countries’ national legislatures in 1993 and went into effect on January 1, 1994.
Right. But I think it was passed under the old fast track authority (as most free trade agreements have been). So instead of needing a 2/3 majority in the Senate it just needed simple majorities in both Houses.
re: #69 HappyWarrior
And we know the party had a clown but where was the moon bounce? They couldn’t find one nice place in DC to cater for this? Cheap assholes.
What catering firm would want to be a part of this shitshow? I’m pretty sure that they all laughed and hung up when SMS called them.
The silver tongs in the Dominos is when I ascended to heaven pic.twitter.com/wQzhgR4uxF
— MattyG (@MattyG_Funk) January 15, 2019
re: #73 Myron Falwell
It cannot be understated just how much Trump utterly failed at this. If he was trying to pressure Democrats (especially by moving this visit up from April, which was when Alabama showed up), that didn’t work. He came off a fucking joke and his tasteless garishness really showed itself.
Over in the comments section of Deadbart (not linking), they are all-in on Trump’s show of gracefulness and paying for the whole thing, complaining liberals are just making a molehill out of a mountain.
They really do live in a cult. The Republican base is one giant religion (Conservatism can’t fail, it can only be failed).
It is a silly news story and yet it’s just
This is not normal
A fucking used car dealership wouldn’t hand out burgers in cardboard boxes to VIP guests at a big public dinner event
They’re in DC for God’s sake— Arthur Chu (@arthur_affect) January 15, 2019
re: #76 Myron Falwell
What catering firm would want to be a part of this shitshow? I’m pretty sure that they all laughed and hung up when SMS called them.
Well I’m saying they could have bulk ordered from a nicer restaurant. When I had a work party in DC, we got it from a really good bbq place.
re: #78 Anymouse ??
Over in the comments section of Deadbart (not linking), they are all-in on Trump’s show of gracefulness and paying for the whole thing, complaining liberals are just making a molehill out of a mountain.
They really do live in a cult. The Republican base is one giant religion (Conservatism can’t fail, it can only be failed).
It was McDonalds. It made him look cheap. I’ve been to children’s birthday parties with better spreads.
President Fuckface Von Clowmstick (@realDonaldTrump) is such a dumb stupid sack of lardshit. Cold fast food at the White House. What’s next? State dinners with corn dogs as the main course?
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) January 15, 2019
re: #79 jaunte
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Like ffs show some class. These kids don’t get to eat well that often. And no Donald, it’s defin not among their favorite food. They’re not out of shape fucks like you are.
I know why there wasn’t any KFC there.
They demanded cash up front!
re: #83 teleskiguy
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I mean FDR and Mrs. Roosevelt did and there was some criticism when they made hot dogs for the royal family but still.
re: #82 HappyWarrior
It was McDonalds. It made him look cheap. I’ve been to children’s birthday parties with better spreads.
I’ve put on better spreads for various groups. I’m a hundredaire though, so I have more money than Trump (the King of Debt).
As if it’s hard to pull together a grill and make burgers.
And it’s not like the food probably stayed hot either.
The message here is that these are people who NEVER had to make food for themselves, much less anyone else.
re: #88 jaunte
As if it’s hard to pull together a grill and make burgers.
Yeah if you’re going to do burgers. Get some angus beef and grill away.
re: #80 HappyWarrior
Well I’m saying they could have bulk ordered from a nicer restaurant. When I had a work party in DC, we got it from a really good bbq place.
Trump wouldn’t know how to get a well-catered meal if it literally bit him in the ass.
I guess he could have gotten everyone a giant taco salad from his hotel kitchen, but that would have put a damper in his “no to Mexicans” narrative lol.
re: #90 jaunte
The message here is that these are people who NEVER had to make food for themselves, much less anyone else.
I don’t think Trump has ever cooked for himself and what’s more he’s probably proud of that but yet he fancies himself blue collar.
re: #89 HappyWarrior
And it’s not like the food probably stayed hot either.
Trump and a steam table would be dangerous in the same room.
re: #94 HappyWarrior
This is not his first crap sandwich buffet.
re: #88 jaunte
As if it’s hard to pull together a grill and make burgers.
I feel like Donald Trump operating a grill at the White House is going to end with people having to carry out the various presidential portraits a la Dolly Madison
re: #97 KGxvi
It’s scary to realize I could make him more popular.
re: #15 Belafon
From the previous thread:
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Stupid? That’s a better criticism of modern Christianity than Piss Christ.
Yes. It is a very good expression of how far Christianity has fallen from it’s ideals. They should be outraged at themselves though, not at the artwork that merely holds up a mirror to reality.
re: #97 KGxvi
I feel like Donald Trump operating a grill at the White House is going to end with people having to carry out the various presidential portraits a la Dolly Madison
They would have had the Clemson football team to help, my wife notes.
re: #99 jaunte
It’s scary to realize I could make him more popular.
I’m not sure there’s anything that will make him more popular. Apparently his prime time address changed the minds of about 2% of the population. And I’m not sure in which direction that statistical noise went
Fast food cheeseburgers.
Fucking gobsmacking. I’m telling you. What. The. Fuck. Is it getting weird enough?!?
re: #103 teleskiguy
This is what Satan looks like. pic.twitter.com/w67EwtfshF
— Brendan Loper (@BrendanLoper) January 15, 2019
Did he tell Coach Dabo they were having Steamed Hams?
re: #103 teleskiguy
Fast food cheeseburgers.
Fucking gobsmacking. I’m telling you. What. The. Fuck. Is it getting weird enough?!?
And he’s totally clueless about how he’s become the joke. It’s one thing to be a joke, but he legitimately thinks it was a good idea that was executed to perfection.
re: #100 William Lewis
Yes. It is a very good expression of how far Christianity has fallen from it’s ideals. They should be outraged at themselves though, not at the artwork that merely holds up a mirror to reality.
I’m not sure Christianity has ever lived up to its ideals in a widespread way. The Catholic Church through the Middle Ages and through most of the enlightenment/age of discovery was incredibly corrupt and/or power hungry. And even after Luther, a lot of the various Christian movements were less interested in charity and love than they were in power
re: #104 jaunte
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We’re watching a senile man running the government and we don’t have any way to override the crotchety old man in the Senate to do something about him.
re: #109 Belafon
Trump has shut down the government of the United States. Now all we have is Trump, his propaganda minister Sean Hannity, and his minister of destroying democracy Mitch McConnell.
— Robert Reich (@RBReich) January 15, 2019
re: #107 Myron Falwell
And he’s totally clueless about how he’s become the joke. It’s one thing to be a joke, but he legitimately thinks it was a good idea that was executed to perfection.
Delusions of grandeur. He really thinks he’s the best president ever.
re: #103 teleskiguy
Fast food cheeseburgers.
Fucking gobsmacking. I’m telling you. What. The. Fuck. Is it getting weird enough?!?
“It never got weird enough for me.”
John Bolton and his new deputy Charles Kupperman are listed as directors for a nonprofit (the Institute for a Secure America) they started the same day Trump tapped Bolton for NSC. Bolton didn’t list that on his financial disclosure. H/T @aaronjschaffer https://t.co/wL1EL2whbW
— Bryant Harris (@Brykharris_ALM) January 14, 2019
re: #107 Myron Falwell
And he’s totally clueless about how he’s become the joke. It’s one thing to be a joke, but he thinks it was a good idea that was executed to perfection.
He didn’t realize it when the UN General Assembly literally laughed in his face.
Either that or he knows and is just that good of a salesconman
re: #113 Single-handed sailor
Institute for a Secure America
They might as well have sent up fluorescent green SCAM balloons.
re: #114 KGxvi
He didn’t realize it when the UN General Assembly literally laughed in his face.
salesconman
I wouldn’t be surprised to see him fulfill the long held Bircher dream of pulling out of the UN.
I misspelled Clownstick in this tweet. I regret the error.
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) January 15, 2019
re: #109 Belafon
We’re watching a senile man running the government and we don’t have any way to override the crotchety old man in the Senate to do something about him.
Where does the simpleton aspect end and the senility aspect begin? Seems like there is a really big grey area.
re: #113 Single-handed sailor
Sounds like Bolton is running for an escape pod of his own.
re: #118 Myron Falwell
Where does the simpleton aspect end and the senility aspect begin? Seems like there is a really big grey area.
I don’t see the McDonald’s as the choice of a simpleton but the choice of a racist grandpa. Everyone else would have had the White House chefs cooking. I mean if your the king, you don’t get McDonald’s.
re: #116 Joe Bacon ??
I wouldn’t be surprised to see him fulfill the long held Bircher dream of pulling out of the UN.
Again, ratified treaty. So he would need the Senate to approve, and given our place as a permanent member of the security council, I don’t see that happening, ever. I don’t think he’d even get away with withdrawing the diplomatic attaché
re: #120 Belafon
But, when it started, yeah, that would be hard to say.
Mitch is stuck.
Putin is yanking his collar demanding the government stay shut down and millions of pissed off people want to get paid. Those folks are going to put increasing pressure on the Kentucky Fried Asshole to pay them. Also add in thousands of angry contractors and the people who work for them who aren’t getting paid, either.
I’m fully expecting a mob to pay a visit to Mitch’s house…
Like, I get it, it’s tempting to see this as a deliberate degradation, but I really think Occam’s Razor tilts towards him just being a nasty ass slob, without an ounce of class or consideration for what his guests might reasonably expect from a visit to the White House.
— Franklygoddamn (@goddamnedfrank) January 15, 2019
re: #27 Myron Falwell
And then there’s George Conway and Kellyanne, that can’t be a healthy marriage by any means.
What makes you think that they actually disagree about Trump? Kellyanne has no morals or ethics or compunction about lying but she is smart. For all we know, she’s feeding George some of his lines. She started out supporting the other liar’s campaign but abandoned it when Cruz suspended his campaign. She probably detests Trump as much as George but she helped guide Trump to victory so she’s stuck with him.
re: #123 Joe Bacon ??
I’m not sure if it’s Putin, but it definitely is a power play that went awry. The Democrats aren’t caving like they expected to, and actually are further emboldened.
Mitch is screwed if this power play falls apart. He can’t afford to lose anything to Sen. Schumer, not one bit. But it’s obvious one side is going to cave, and it’s not the Democrats.
The polls are showing overwhelmingly that no one is buying the GOP and Trump, and Trump is seeing his base start to fall apart. His distractions like the racist attack on Sen. Warren and the Clemson team WH visit disaster aren’t moving any needles whatsoever. They don’t know what to do.
I mean, it’s fine with me if the GOP unwittingly loses multiple senate seats on this alone. Susan Collins’ “I’ve fallen and I can’t get up” act isn’t going to resonate with her constituents. Murkowski blaming Trump but not Mitch isn’t going to resonate, either. They’re trying to prevent the inevitable, and it won’t work.
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The lead tweet is from a tRumpster
It’s almost Macobre, with the candles and gold everywhere, straight out of a horror movie! ??
— Lydia L. Pineault (@LydiLouiKats) January 15, 2019
With as dysfunctional as this administration is? No I think mocobre as correct enough
— Zach (@zach_ismyname) January 15, 2019
— Zach (@zach_ismyname) January 15, 2019
re: #128 FormerDirtDart ????
The jokes made about this debacle of a dinner have made me laugh out loud. It’s the only possible response, given the severity of the embarrassment.
The guy at far left in Gus’s #124 looks like he’s thinking, “I put on a suit and tie just so I can eat cheeseburgers at the White House? WTF?”
New word for the Trump admin.
It’s not quite idiocracy, surely not democracy. Insidiocracy maybe. Insidious perversion of democracy.
re: #86 HappyWarrior
I mean FDR and Mrs. Roosevelt did and there was some criticism when they made hot dogs for the royal family but still.
That was a picnic at their country place; not sure there was even an available kitchen other than the grill.
re: #127 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
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First White House dinner where the guests could have made better food with a trip to Trader Joe’s and a George Foreman grill.
re: #127 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
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re: #128 FormerDirtDart ????
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He paid $1200 to buy, deliver, and serve cold fast food to the Clemson football team.
Alabama’s coach just huddled with his players and told them, “We won, big time.”
Patrick Shanahan’s time at Boeing hasn’t equipped him with the skills and knowledge traditionally considered to be required to run the Pentagon, @GAdams1941 writes. https://t.co/VgzQ9uCLeY
— Foreign Policy (@ForeignPolicy) January 15, 2019
No fucking shit. Who could have imagined..
re: #136 Single-handed sailor
That image shows Trump going with increasingly white hair.
It’s almost to the titanium dioxide stage.
re: #15 Belafon
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Stupid? That’s a better criticism of modern Christianity than Piss Christ.
My interpretation of it. And I’m a Christian.
re: #136 Single-handed sailor
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No fucking shit. Who could have imagined..
He’s a long-time government contractor executive. A very skilled MBA. He has no policy experience, and no idea how government policy works. Of course he’s incompetent for this position.
In Drumpf world, he’s the perfect choice.
re: #86 HappyWarrior
I mean FDR and Mrs. Roosevelt did and there was some criticism when they made hot dogs for the royal family but still.
If Trump had the White House kitchen make fresh burgers and hot dogs for the team because there was a reduced staff with the shutdown it would have been practically acceptable.
This display was your typical cheap Trump. We’ve seen it two Thanksgivings in a row. Him taking subs/heroes from the Mar-a-Lago kitchen along with single serving bags of chips to the local Coast guard facility.
The mayor of Gdańsk, Poland was murdered at a charity event.
The mayor was a member of the Civic Platform Party (the liberal party of Poland).
He was murdered by stabbing to death by a man who was convicted of bank robbery, and blamed Civic Platform for his conviction and jail sentence.
The mayor was loved by the people of Gdańsk, and all of Poland is shocked by the murder.
Rallies across Poland pay tribute to slain mayor (Goes to Radio Poland, more at the link).
Gatherings took place on Monday evening in cities including Warsaw, Gdańsk, Kraków and Poznań, hours after the death of Pawe? Adamowicz sent shock waves through the country.
Adamowicz, 53, the mayor of Gdańsk, was stabbed on Sunday evening during a high-profile annual charity drive in the northern Polish city. He died the next day in hospital after five-hour operation failed to save him.
Some 16,000 turned out for a rally in Gdańsk, many holding candles and some with tears in their eyes, state news agency PAP reported.
In Warsaw, a silent “Stop Hate” rally drew politicians from various parties, PAP added.
re: #127 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
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Every single thing Trump touches turns to shit.
Trump is serving the Clemson Tigers fast food on silver trays, this is the most ghetto shit I have ever seen and I am from the ghetto. pic.twitter.com/v23HbVcXB6
— Christopher Bouzy (@cbouzy) January 14, 2019
Like I said yesterday, the wingnuts no doubt are loving this whole shindig, thinking it “proof” that Donny is some “man of the people” rather than what he really appears: A fat slob who can’t imagine why people would want to eat anything other than the processed crap he eats regularly.
My wife and I were in Gdańsk in 2015. The idea that someone would murder the mayor is beyond belief. We are sadden by this terrible tragedy.
I see @Gillette has touched a few raw nerves. Wowza.
“Boys will be boys”? Isn’t it time we stopped excusing bad behavior? Re-think and take action by joining us at https://t.co/giHuGDEvlT. #TheBestMenCanBe pic.twitter.com/hhBL1XjFVo
— Gillette (@Gillette) January 14, 2019
re: #146 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
Wow, wingnut snowflakes triggered. Lots of women sexually harassing men or raping them, according to the Wingnut Religion.
There’s a dark side of female nature just as there’s a dark side of male nature. Moving boys and men along the right path to being constructive people and good citizens is fine. Propagandizing them to think there might be something inherently wrong with them is just that: wrong.
— Bald Eagle Fourth (@4TurningScribe) January 14, 2019
What politicians like Beto O’Rourke, Kirsten Gillibrand, Kamala Harris, and Elizabeth Warren don’t get is that @AOC’s magic isn’t in the medium. It’s in the message, writes @briebriejoy. https://t.co/xkVa0ZEevh
— The Intercept (@theintercept) January 13, 2019
— Matt Murphy (@MattMurph24) January 15, 2019
From gallup a few months ago, doubt the numbers are much different now pic.twitter.com/CPcSJplsjI
— Marcus H. Johnson (@marcushjohnson) January 15, 2019
Just a reminder that AOC isn’t even eligible to run for President until 2024. So all of these comparisons of her vs current national contenders are premature af.
— Franklygoddamn (@goddamnedfrank) January 15, 2019
re: #147 Anymouse ??
Note the ref to Original Sin. RWNJ religion places the blame on Eve, when traditionally both Adam *and* Eve were considered guilty of OS.
For a bunch of self-described “alpha males”, they sure are sensitive types. “Be nice” = “Feminization of manly men!!11ty!!”
March against violence proposed after Polish mayor stabbed (update at Radio Poland, more at the link):
Politicians from various groups were expected to meet at the presidential palace at 4 pm on Monday, a day after the stabbing of Pawe? Adamowicz, the mayor of the northern city of Gdańsk, shocked Poland.
President Andrzej Duda wanted to talk to party leaders about plans for a march against violence and hatred in the port city on Tuesday evening, B?a?ej Spychalski, a spokesman for the head of state, said.
Adamowicz was stabbed several times during a charity drive in Gdańsk to raise money for medical equipment at children’s hospitals.
No doubt American wingnuts will claim “why aren’t liberals calling for knife control” (ignoring this was not a mass-knife murder).
re: #146 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
I see @Gillette has touched a few raw nerves. Wowza.
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— Gillette (@Gillette) January 14, 2019
This ad was a superconducting electromagnet for angry fuckboys. https://t.co/BIWLNZNsL8
— Franklygoddamn (@goddamnedfrank) January 15, 2019
re: #149 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
Note the ref to Original Sin. RWNJ religion places the blame on Eve, when traditionally both Adam *and* Eve were considered guilty of OS.
For a bunch of self-described “alpha males”, they sure are sensitive types. “Be nice” = “Feminization of manly men!!11ty!!”
All Christian faith puts blame on Eve. Eve tricked Adam to eat the forbidden fruit.
It is not “RWNJ” faith. All Christian faith puts the blame on Eve as the reason for the “fall of man.”
re: #153 Anymouse ??
Not all. Don’t lump Quakers and Universalists, among others, with those people.
re: #154 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
Not all. Don’t lump Quakers and Universalists, among others, with those people.
A goodly number of Universalists are not Christians.
I can’t speak to Quakers other than the few in my town. They subscribe to the Christian view of the Bible (it’s Eve’s fault).
It isn’t my problem to fix the Christian narrative that women are the cause of the fall of humans. That’s Christians’ problem.
It could have been worse; they could have served Trump Grill food. That shit is NASTY.
Conservative writer Jerome Corsi says Mueller has summoned his stepson to testify before grand jury (Washington Post)
The stepson of conservative writer Jerome Corsi has been summoned by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III to testify before a grand jury, according to Corsi, a sign that Mueller’s team remains focused on the writer and his interactions with Roger Stone, a close associate of President Trump.
Corsi said in a Fox Business Network interview Monday night that his stepson, Andrew Stettner, had recently received a subpoena for his testimony.
A subpoena doesn’t mean he did anything wrong; it may be nothing more than gathering witness testimony.
Nevertheless, seeing Jerome Corsi sweat is fine with me.
re: #155 Anymouse ??
A goodly number of Universalists are not Christians.
I can’t speak to Quakers other than the few in my town. They subscribe to the Christian view of the Bible (it’s Eve’s fault).
It isn’t my problem to fix the Christian narrative that women are the cause of the fall of humans. That’s Christians’ problem.
I’m suggesting you first get your facts straight before going on the attack. For one thing, Quakers in your neck of the woods are probably the kind that have pastors and programmed meetings — not much different from other Protestant churches. Liberal Quakers are the non-programmed, non-pastoral kind, which are more common on the east coast and many college towns, and the UK.
I know some Universalists who would disagree with your first statement. And perusing the Wikipedia article on Original Sin (I know, lame research but I’m at work) does not turn up any documentary evidence that the doctrine of Original Sin pins all the blame on Eve and none on Adam.
However, I am not denying there are Christians who do indeed blame Eve and therefore all women for tempting Adam. Saying all Christians do is just plain wrong.
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re: #158 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
Still not my problem.
If the Bible lays out some sort of objective morality, and is either the inspired or literal word of God, then there should be no room for interpretation at all.
Interpretation would imply that it is not objective. It is still not my job to explain Universalism or Quakerism or any other interpretation of their faith to me. It is their job.
I’m sorry that nearly every Christian faith blames the so-called fall of Man on Eve, but that really isn’t my problem. Christian misogyny is based on Genesis.
I need to retire to bed. It’s way past my bedtime and I’m not really into discussing how to parse the Bible and which interpretation is correct.
In a lot of ways, I can see AOC as a major threat to the Bros, as she’s a progressive Dem who is working with the leadership rather than against them, has support within the party ranks, and addresses their sacred cows without feeling compelled to court the “working class” vote.
This one might be my favorite.
They sure added a lot of burgers to The Shining. pic.twitter.com/2YKPXtOxjV
— Kashana (@kashanacauley) January 15, 2019
re: #160 Anymouse ??
I’m sorry that nearly every Christian faith blames the so-called fall of Man on Eve, but that really isn’t my problem.
Well, at least you’re not saying “all Christians” now. I made some progress.
And I’m not saying it’s your problem. I’m just pointing out inaccuracies that weaken your argument. Absolutes like “never,” “none,” “all,” etc., just allow an opponent to find exceptions to the rule you have stated, to then question your entire argument.
FWIW I am no longer a believer, but was a Hicksite Quaker for nearly 25 years. Most “liberal” branches of Christianity (also known as godless heathens by the Religious Right) do not teach Eve was the only Original Sinner. Adam also took part in the mischief, and lied about it afterward.
There is, however, one group of religious historians who suggest the patriarchal priests of El/Yahweh wanted to blame Eve for the Fall to lure people away from goddess worship (Astarte/Ishtar and Asherah) and into their “camp,” as it were. There is a definite misogynistic attitude in the OT and NT that cannot be denied, and sects that want to repress women have a ready-to-use justification for that repression in the story of Eve and the Forbidden Fruit. That undercurrent may also be why early Protestants* accused Catholics of paganism, because of their veneration of Mary, a fertility “goddess” of a different stripe.
* EDIT: To be more accurate, not just early Protestants.
I’m hearing the excuse being made for Donny offering drive-thru slop is that the WH kitchen staff has been furloughed and so he paid for this shindig out of his own pocket.
Personally, I consider it a pretty telling sign of how little the man actually has in liquid assets that he couldn’t afford to just foot the bill to have the WH staff whip up something better and then deal with the clean-up afterwards. Even if they just grilled a bunch of burgers on a gas range in the back, it would have been better than the processed crap that gets served up at McDonald’s.
re: #164 Targetpractice
I’m hearing the excuse being made for Donny offering drive-thru slop is that the WH kitchen staff has been furloughed and so he paid for this shindig out of his own pocket.
Personally, I consider it a pretty telling sign of how little the man actually has in liquid assets that he couldn’t afford to just foot the bill to have the WH staff whip up something better and then deal with the clean-up afterwards. Even if they just grilled a bunch of burgers on a gas range in the back, it would have been better than the processed crap that gets served up at McDonald’s.
In fact, only about half the cooking staff has been furloughed, I’ve read. Most of the secretaries and clerks have been, though.
Plus, there is a Trump Hotel right there in DC. It has a restaurant.
I don’t buy for a second that he paid for this out of his own pocket. At least not without expecting that there will be an invoice as soon as the shutdown ends for the cost of this “catering” with the payment going to the Trump Org.
Voice progression: Jeanine Pirro —> Seth Meyer —> Gilbert Gottfried
Gilbert could read Pirro’s lines better than she does.
re: #166 Targetpractice
I don’t buy for a second that he paid for this out of his own pocket. At least not without expecting that there will be an invoice as soon as the shutdown ends for the cost of this “catering” with the payment going to the Trump Org.
It probably cost $1,500 tops, but Trump will ask for reimbursement from the WH household budget because that’s his MO. Always use someone else’s money.
Boris Johnson goes Trumper:
Boris Johnson makes dramatic claim of a ‘plot by the deep state to kill Brexit’
Boris Johnson has made a dramatic claim of a “plot by the deep state to kill Brexit “.
The bumbling Brexiteer suggested there was a conspiracy by the British establishment as he spoke in the House of Commons last night.
Brexit vote latest LIVE: When is the vote and what time as Theresa May pleads for support
Should be around 11am, left coast time.
re: #169 freetoken
Boris Johnson goes Trumper:
Boris Johnson makes dramatic claim of a ‘plot by the deep state to kill Brexit’
If by the “Deep State” he means sensible and sane people, then yes, it is a plot to avoid a total disaster.
Some clueless Brit said a no-deal Brexit on May 29 would be just like Y2K, no big deal. Life will just go on as if nothing had happened. Yeah, good luck w’ that, mate.
For being a “hoax”, climate change sure does seem to be stirring up the sh*t in real:
Sea Rise Blamed for Failure of Miami-Dade Septic Tanks
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Sea level rise is pushing the groundwater even higher, eating up precious space and leaving the once dry dirt soggy. Waste water doesn’t filter like it’s supposed to in soggy soil. In some cases, it comes back out, turning a front yard into a poopy swamp.
High tides or heavy rains can push feces-filled water elsewhere, including King Tide floodwaters - as pointed out in a 2016 study from Florida International University and NOAA - or possibly the region’s drinking supply.
In total, there are about 108,000 properties within the county that still use septic, about 105,000 of which are residential. The vast majority (more than 65,000) of the septic systems are in unincorporated Miami-Dade.
[…]
re: #170 freetoken
Brexit vote latest LIVE: When is the vote and what time as Theresa May pleads for support
Should be around 11am, left coast time.
About two hours from now, my time. I might even watch it live.
re: #173 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
About two hours from now, my time. I might even watch it live.
More than two hours, no? The vote is at 7pm London time.
re: #172 freetoken
For being a “hoax”, climate change sure does seem to be stirring up the sh*t in real:
Those old “I got some land for sale in Florida” jokes just got a new lease on life.
re: #174 freetoken
More than two hours, no? The vote is at 7pm London time.
Ah, yeah, I miscounted. I’m +8 UTC here. So it’s more like 3 am here. I guess I’ll catch it on replay.
re: #171 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
If by the “Deep State” he means sensible and sane people, then yes, it is a plot to avoid a total disaster.
Some clueless Brit said a no-deal Brexit on May 29 would be just like Y2K, no big deal. Life will just go on as if nothing had happened. Yeah, good luck w’ that, mate.
The reason Y2K came and went without any problems is that people were well aware of the problem in advance and prepared for it. The same cannot be said for Brexit.
re: #177 Alephnaught
The reason Y2K came and went without any problems is that people were well aware of the problem in advance and prepared for it. The same cannot be said for Brexit.
Y2K was machine code, which could be mitigated without too much disruption. Brexit is a catastrophe waiting to happen, orchestrated by people with no idea of what they are doing, who somehow imagine everything will just work out fine once the UK leaves the EU and bob’s your uncle. Y2K was like forgetting to zip your fly. Brexit is like cutting off your right leg at the knee with a hacksaw.
Pop version of the Annunciation.
— Omni-Eris (@Omni_Eris) January 15, 2019
It’s really telling that the crowd arguing that No-Deal Brexit will be “no different” than Y2K are the same crowd who assured folks that NHS would see a windfall if the UK left the EU.
Meet Rachel Zegler, who will play Maria in the Spielberg remake of West Side Story. She is Colombian-American. She sings pretty good, too.
someone: you use autotune????????
me: pic.twitter.com/9sPBkDj2kf— rachel zegler (@rachelzegler) December 14, 2018
More about the remake here: bbc.com
Also from the Beeb, China’s Chang’e probe is growing plants on the far side of the Moon.
Good news for the Trump Space Force! They can chow down in the Chinese-run canteen 50 years from now.
re: #23 HappyWarrior
This is really disturbing tho. And this shit is just going to isolate us more and more from allies.
Trump has no allies outside of Putin. Putin’s goal is to break up the European Union and kill NATO. In two years he has moved a long way towards this goal with a little help from trump.
re: #131 sagehen
That was a picnic at their country place; not sure there was even an available kitchen other than the grill.
Ah ok. Thanks for the details.
Etymology in the face of political madness:
re: #184 fern01
Trump has no allies outside of Putin. Putin’s goal is to break up the European Union and kill NATO. In two years he has moved a long way towards this goal with a little help from trump.
The Brits helped him too with Brexit. I’m really interested in seeing who succeeds Merkel as the leader of mainland Europe. I hope she’s grooming someone.
re: #15 Belafon
From the previous thread:
“McJesus” art sculpture in Israeli museum sparks violent protests
Stupid? That’s a better criticism of modern Christianity than Piss Christ.
Remember the blow up over Mohammed cartoons…
More Hindu fundamentalism:
Sabarimala: Woman who defied India temple ban ‘attacked by mother-in-law’
Strong-men always have a following:
re: #58 teleskiguy
So, it’s been snowing stoopid amounts in the Alps.
Lots of people went up there for their winter ski vacations and got snowed in, unable to either leave or ski…
re: #139 austin_blue
He’s a long-time government contractor executive. A very skilled MBA. He has no policy experience, and no idea how government policy works. Of course he’s incompetent for this position.
In Drumpf world, he’s the perfect choice.
Because he will be loyal until the moment he reads on Twitter that he has been sacked.
re: #180 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
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But that Annunciation version is 180 degrees wrong.
If the 14 year old girl doesn’t give express consent, the redemption ain’t happ’nin. That’s about the most feminist trope in the Catholic interpretation of the NT.
Also happened today:
Model claiming Trump secrets to be released after Thai trial
A Belarusian model who claimed she had proof of Russian efforts to help Donald Trump win office was ordered released on Tuesday (Jan 15), nearly a year after she was arrested in Thailand for participating in a “sex training course”.
[…]
Vashukevich, who has penned a book about seducing oligarchs, also faces legal problems in Russia.
Deripaska won an invasion of privacy lawsuit against her and Kirillov in July after a video apparently filmed by the model showed the tycoon vacationing with an influential Russian deputy prime minister.
[…]
re: #194 freetoken
Also happened today:
Model claiming Trump secrets to be released after Thai trial
This sounds like a good ploy, right up there with the fake documents on Bush’s Air National Guard record…something that can be dismissed and offered as proof of the Deep State Witch Hunt, etc…
Voting against Brexit deal could lead to united Ireland, warns PM May
And Sinn Fein said “amen”.
re: #195 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
There was a group of Russians involved, not just her. They claim to have been set up. I would not be surprised if they were. Thailand has long been a favorite destination for sex vacations and everyone knows that, so why was she put in jail?
re: #197 freetoken
There was a group of Russians involved, not just her. They claim to have been set up. I would not be surprised if they were. Thailand has long been a favorite destination for sex vacations and everyone knows that, so why was she put in jail?
all smells of a counterplot
re: #197 freetoken
There was a group of Russians involved, not just her. They claim to have been set up. I would not be surprised if they were. Thailand has long been a favorite destination for sex vacations and everyone knows that, so why was she put in jail?
The Thai government goes through spells of pretending to shut down the sex trade, raiding bars and clubs periodically, and arresting sex workers. Then, everything and everyone gets back to business as usual until the next crackdown. The cops benefit from the sex trade, too. Targeting farang lends credence to the idea that “foreign influence” is corrupting Thailand.
About those cheeseburgers:
The White House comes with a purpose-built team of people whose entire task is to make sure any official visitor is comfortable and respected within the visitor’s own frame of reference. The Protocol folks can make sure a visiting Sami shaman and his concubines are treated with exactly the level of respect the President wishes to express.
If they weren’t used, that’s a fuckup. If they were consulted, that’s worse.
re: #200 Decatur Deb
About those cheeseburgers:
The White House comes with a purpose-built team of people whose entire task is to make sure any official visitor is comfortable and respected with the visitor’s own frame of reference. The Protocol folks can make sure a visiting Sami shaman and his concubines are treated with exactly the level of respect the President wishes to express.
If they weren’t used, that’s a fuckup. If they were consulted, that’s worse.
They could have been among the furloughed workers. Also, I doubt Trump and collection of misfits give a shit about making visitors feel welcome, unless those visitors are rich, famous and/or authoritarian leaders.
re: #201 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
They could have been among the furloughed workers. Also, I doubt Trump and collection of misfits give a shit about making visitors feel welcome, unless those visitors are rich, famous and/or authoritarian leaders.
Trump just figured that is what Clemson athletes love, so that was the end of discussion.
re: #202 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Trump just figured that is what Clemson athletes love, so that was the end of discussion.
Only he can fix. He has a big brain.
NATO…… Something big must be getting ready to break on the Mueller front. This is deflection talk.
re: #82 HappyWarrior
It was McDonalds. It made him look cheap. I’ve been to children’s birthday parties with better spreads.
I’ve been to McDonald’s birthday parties - at McDonalds - where the food is hot - and each child gets to choose what they want to eat/drink.
Cheap is the nicest thing you can say about this white house dinner.
re: #40 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
So was NAFTA….
we hadn’t thought that mcconnell and the senate were craven enough for many things. we have been proven wrong, over and over again.
re: #172 freetoken
For being a “hoax”, climate change sure does seem to be stirring up the sh*t in real:
Florida slowly sinks…continues to vote Republican…
re: #209 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
Gillette is part of the anti-male SJW movement. Any men who are sick of this can come right on over to us at Bawdy Barber, where we understand how men work and don’t try to change them into women.
????— Bawdy Barber (@BawdyBarber) January 14, 2019
re: #211 Dave In Austin
Gillette is part of the anti-male SJW movement. Any men who are sick of this can come right on over to us at Bawdy Barber, where we understand how men work and don’t try to change them into women.
“men who don’t beat women are women
men who don’t beat up gays are gay”
I get the message…
I have been a proud Bawdy Barber customer for years, because they truly understand how men work pic.twitter.com/awO1lUvlV4
— Sir, Sir? SIR!! (@bornwithatail_) January 15, 2019
re: #211 Dave In Austin
Bawdy Barber only uses straight razors, I guess. None of this pansy safety razor shit.
State Dinners sure aren’t what they used to be.
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) January 15, 2019
re: #214 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
Bawdy Barber only uses straight razors, I guess. None of this pansy safety razor shit.
Funny that, I won’t go to a barber that won’t use a straight razor. And they are getting hard to find IMO.
A few hungry, poor asylum seekers does not a “caravan” make. Stop playing into the rightwing agenda.
New caravan of migrants headed for US https://t.co/oC623I8hmU pic.twitter.com/pXGbA2qnSz
— The Hill (@thehill) January 15, 2019
re: #216 Dave In Austin
Funny that, I won’t go to a barber that won’t use a straight razor. And they are getting hard to find IMO.
A straight razor in the hands of a master is the best way to go. In my hands, not a great idea.
re: #217 Patricia Kayden
Let me guess. They are still in Honduras or Guatemala and are weeks away from the Rio Grande.
re: #217 Patricia Kayden
A few hungry, poor asylum seekers does not a “caravan” make. Stop playing into the rightwing agenda.
I count around 60-70.
A tidal surge.
I can feel our Culture and Heritage already bracing to take the blow.
re: #217 Patricia Kayden
A few hungry, poor asylum seekers does not a “caravan” make. Stop playing into the rightwing agenda.
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You can always count on THE SHRILL to repeat the latest GOP talking points. It’s just another cog in the Republican 24/7 Bullshit Machine!
?@realDonaldTrump? is second most accessible President to the press since Reagan, according to research by respected ?@mkumar38?. Only Clinton faced questions more often. pic.twitter.com/Y0ZI0GKd7i
— WHCA (@whca) January 13, 2019
Well, the White House Correspondents Association failed to mention that the majority of interviews are with Fox and are a complete waste of time. But, hey. Access. https://t.co/2CwvqU1GGt
— deray (@deray) January 15, 2019
The amount of holstering that journalists and outlets do for an administration that does nothing but demonize them as literal, actual traitors is…..fuck.
re: #215 darthstar
He sure has downgraded the white house. If I was reading this in a history book I would think the texas text book writers were changing the facts again.
Welp! My country is about to go over the precipice of a no-deal crashout from the EU. I relocated here just before the vote, with my Japanese family. I feel so sad about my country. How hard is it to emigrate to Canada? (serious question)
On the other hand… listening to the political radio on the way to work this morning (it’s all they’ve been talking about for months) a staunch brexiteer rang in and said, “Bollocks to Brexit! I’m fed up with it. Let’s just forget the whole thing.”
I almost crashed.
Likewise, my elderly father - climate-change denier, ardent brexiteer, fear-of-immigration etc - talked to me at Christmas about how he was surprised by the amount of ecological damage done at the South Pole and asked what’s going on with renewable energy (I’m working in the sector). I feel like, just like over there with you, my US friends, there are cracks appearing in the madness and there is hope.
Time to extend a hand of friendship to other side? It can be hard to admit when you’re wrong.
K
re: #223 fern01
He sure has downgraded the white house. If I was reading this in a history book I would think the texas text book writers were changing the facts again.
People of the future will look back on these years as America’s sitcom/reality TV crossover presidency. It’s like watching Jack Ass but the idiot has the nuclear codes.
re: #224 Curious Lifeform
If you are a UK citizen, I thought relocating to a commonwealth country was smoother than moving to another country?
re: #224 Curious Lifeform
Welp! My country is about to go over the precipice of a no-deal crashout from the EU. I relocated here just before the vote, with my Japanese family. I feel so sad about my country. How hard is it to emigrate to Canada? (serious question)
On the other hand… listening to the political radio on the way to work this morning (it’s all they’ve been talking about for months) a staunch brexiteer rang in and said, “Bollocks to Brexit! I’m fed up with it. Let’s just forget the whole thing.”
I almost crashed.
Likewise, my elderly father - climate-change denier, ardent brexiteer, fear-of-immigration etc - talked to me at Christmas about how he was surprised by the amount of ecological damage done at the South Pole and asked what’s going on with renewable energy (I’m working in the sector). I feel like, just like over there with you, my US friends, there are cracks appearing in the madness and there is hope.
Time to extend a hand of friendship to other side? It can be hard to admit when you’re wrong.
K
Canada wants workers in certain key industries. You might qualify. Ireland is another option.
re: #222 Citizen K
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The amount of holstering that journalists and outlets do for an administration that does nothing but demonize them as literal, actual traitors is…..fuck.
Most of those interviews are with TASS, er, Fox.
Is it too much to ask you folks to stop being stenographers with the Republican propaganda and Frank Luntz tested talking points?
DO YOUR JOB AND TELL THE TRUTH FOR A CHANGE!
CALL HUCKY BOO BOO A LIAR AND WALK OUT ON HER!— The 3-D Zanti Regent (@josephebacon) January 15, 2019
re: #226 freetoken
If you are a UK citizen, I thought relocating to a commonwealth country was smoother than moving to another country?
Those days are long gone. Pre c. 1980 it was easier.
RE: Trump and McDonalds. I lived in the US for a while - California. I found two kinds of people; the first were super-fit, beautiful people, ran ten miles every morning, ate a stick of celery for lunch then threw it back up (that’s not a bad-taste joke - some did; this was the nineties).
The other kind ate mountains of McDonalds every hour, every day, then blamed the restaurant for their condition.
I think Trump’s stunt will be loved by one kind and loathed by the other. Perhaps it wasn’t so stupid.
K.
Being British might help. Is law a key industry? Thank you all for thoughts. I should just go look it up I know.
I rarely log on but read comments here most day. Thanks for everyone here for a sane and interesting place and of course thanks to Charles for making it all possible.
Yesterdays thread about “Pocahontas” and the discussion of the genocide of the Native Americans brought this oldie to mind and felt like sharing.
re: #224 Curious Lifeform
Welp! My country is about to go over the precipice of a no-deal crashout from the EU. I relocated here just before the vote, with my Japanese family. I feel so sad about my country. How hard is it to emigrate to Canada? (serious question)
On the other hand… listening to the political radio on the way to work this morning (it’s all they’ve been talking about for months) a staunch brexiteer rang in and said, “Bollocks to Brexit! I’m fed up with it. Let’s just forget the whole thing.”
I almost crashed.
Likewise, my elderly father - climate-change denier, ardent brexiteer, fear-of-immigration etc - talked to me at Christmas about how he was surprised by the amount of ecological damage done at the South Pole and asked what’s going on with renewable energy (I’m working in the sector). I feel like, just like over there with you, my US friends, there are cracks appearing in the madness and there is hope.
Time to extend a hand of friendship to other side? It can be hard to admit when you’re wrong.
K
I wish I was as optimistic as you. Sadly based on the callers I deal with every day at Social Security the worst is yet to come. Gets me really stressed to hear these folks who get checks that they want to shut the whole government down. Especially those on Supplemental Security Income who love to utter racist shit about how colored people are living high on the hog…
re: #225 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
People of the future will look back on these years as America’s sitcom/reality TV crossover presidency. It’s like watching Jack Ass but the idiot has the nuclear codes.
I was reminded of the scene in Kingsman with the dinner between Galahad and Richmond Valentine. The whole McDonalds thing was written to convey just how stunted a manchild Valentine really was.
Reality is stranger and more depressing than fiction.
re: #230 Curious Lifeform
RE: Trump and McDonalds. I lived in the US for a while - California. I found two kinds of people; the first were super-fit, beautiful people, ran ten miles every morning, ate a stick of celery for lunch then threw it back up (that’s not a bad-taste joke - some did; this was the nineties).
The other kind ate mountains of McDonalds every hour, every day, then blamed the restaurant for their condition.
I think Trump’s stunt will be loved by one kind and loathed by the other. Perhaps it wasn’t so stupid.
K.
Having lived in China for 10 years, going back to America and seeing so many seriously overweight people is a real shock.
re: #235 Citizen K
I was reminded of the scene in Kingsman with the dinner between Galahad and Richmond Valentine. The whole McDonalds thing was written to convey just how stunted a manchild Valentine really was.
Reality is stranger and more depressing than fiction.
I wonder if Trump’s parents forbade him from eating hamburgers and fried chicken, and now he’s living out his childhood desires to gorge himself on hamburgers and fried chicken.
He’s singing, but it ain’t over yet…
Chris Christie, who was ousted as chairman of Donald Trump’s White House transition team in 2016, has written a blistering attack on Jared Kushner, whom he accuses of having carried out a political “hit job” on him as an act of revenge for prosecuting his father, Charles Kushner, a decade ago.
In his soon to be published book, Let Me Finish, Christie unleashes both barrels on Trump’s son-in-law, who remains a senior White House adviser with responsibilities for Middle Eastern peace, sentencing reform and “American Innovation”.
Christie blames this key player in the president’s inner circle for his ignominious dismissal shortly after Trump’s election victory in November 2016. Christie, the former governor of New Jersey, writes that Kushner’s role in his sacking was confirmed to him by Steve Bannon, Trump’s campaign chief, in real time.
re: #15 Belafon
Speaking of art and critics…. there was an art installation of 20 sculptures of like 8 foot tall candies, each decorated in the flag of a country of the G20. They were on display at the WTC, and someone complained because one of the sculptures was that of the Saudi flag.
(15 of 19 of the terrorists were Saudi nationals). The Port Authority wanted to move them to JFK (again, 9/11). So where they finally end up will be a discussion.
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Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.
Trump is a Russian potted plant.
Full stop.
Whether he is working for, with, or thinks that they’re working for him is irrelevant. He is conspiring with a foreign power to undermine US national security, foreign policy, our strategic partnerships, our alliances, and economic underpinnings of the past 70+ years to favor a foreign power that is intent on screwing over all of its regional rivals to secure its own objectives.
Every Trump action on foreign policy inures benefits to Russia. Every last one.
Identify one that doesn’t. You can’t find one. You can’t find it with stuff ranging from moving the US embassy to Jerusalem to Syria to Brexit to NATO nonsense or even the North Korea situation.
In every situation, Trump takes a position that leaves the US vulnerable and undermines our longstanding diplomatic and strategic positions. He leaves us weaker and in worse shape.
This is no longer even a hypothetical or a question.
Trump is the clear and present danger to American national security, and his ongoing fight to try and withdraw from NATO is proof he doesn’t have America’s best intentions in mind.
Having lived in China for 10 years, going back to America and seeing so many seriously overweight people is a real shock.
I feel similarly going back to the UK after Japan!!
Legendary Broadway actress Carol Channing dies, aged 97 https://t.co/PCwtcd5ANZ
— The Independent (@Independent) January 15, 2019
So I’m just catching up on the Gillette shit now and…ugh.
I lose more and more faith in humanity every time something like this happens. It’s like trying to call out the rank shit just inspires a massive backfire effect that makes everyone want to be even more gigantic raging assholes, just because “SJWs ARE THE BIGGEST SUPER-CANCER IN THE HISTORY OF EVER!!”
And they end up being treated as the only voice that actually fucking matters.
EDIT: And this isn’t letting Gillette off the hook, because in true corporate fashion, they ‘re playing both sides of the ball:
1. @Gillette, a @ProcterGamble company, launched an ad yesterday taking on “toxic masculinity”
The company is positioning itself as a champion of feminism and gender equality.
It is also one of Tucker Carlson’s last remaining advertisershttps://t.co/Vzt0nBjJiv pic.twitter.com/NH27YExhti— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) January 15, 2019
re: #240 lawhawk
Speaking of art and critics…. there was an art installation of 20 sculptures of like 8 foot tall candies, each decorated in the flag of a country of the G20. They were on display at the WTC, and someone complained because one of the sculptures was that of the Saudi flag.
(15 of 19 of the terrorists were Saudi nationals). The Port Authority wanted to move them to JFK (again, 9/11). So where they finally end up will be a discussion.
KSA and Andy Warhol have a lot to answer for.
I wish I was as optimistic as you. Sadly based on the callers I deal with every day at Social Security the worst is yet to come. Gets me really stressed to hear these folks who get checks that they want to shut the whole government down. Especially those on Supplemental Security Income who love to utter racist shit about how colored people are living high on the hog…
I understand. There will always be those in any society. The Leave campaign deliberately went after that particular demographic, and captured it. But it is too simplistic to say ALL Leave voters are like that. I hope you can believe that, similarly, not EVERYONE who voted Republican is like that, either.
K
Trump thinks he can end shutdown if only Democrats give him exactly what he wants.
Trump isn’t a negotiator. He’s a saboteur and con man who doesn’t know how to govern. He’s an extortionist.
And the walls and bars are closing in on his entire admin.https://t.co/j1iuIDwy6A— lawhawk (@lawhawk) January 15, 2019
re: #248 Curious Lifeform
I understand. There will always be those in any society. The Leave campaign deliberately went after that particular demographic, and captured it. But it is too simplistic to say ALL Leave voters are like that. I hope you can believe that, similarly, not EVERYONE who voted Republican is like that, either.
K
Listen to the callers we deal with every day and you may change your perspective.
LBJ said these words 50 years ago and they are still true today!
re: #1 jaunte
NEW: Trump has privately told senior administration officials that he wants to withdraw from NATO altogether, per @julianbarnes @helenecooper
— Amy Fiscus
Can’t wait till this is a major plank in the GOP platform.
re: #249 lawhawk
For some reason I read “contortionist” at the end and had a WTF? moment lol.
Why are Democrats not re-tweeting Trump’s “I am proud to own this shutdown” tweet every day, multiple times? You need to ram that message home to everyone, constantly.
re: #249 lawhawk
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Once again the AP article is filled with Republican talking points…
re: #249 lawhawk
He also doesn’t care. About anything, except his own narrow band of supporters at FNC.
re: #211 Dave In Austin
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Yeah okay Bawdy. Make your business model simply that you hate “SJWs.”
re: #217 Patricia Kayden
A few hungry, poor asylum seekers does not a “caravan” make. Stop playing into the rightwing agenda.
But are they caravanning in any of those souped up super machine monster transformer cars that DJT talked about?
re: #252 Curious Lifeform
For some reason I read “contortionist” at the end and had a WTF? moment lol.
Why are Democrats not re-tweeting Trump’s “I am proud to own this shutdown” tweet every day, multiple times? You need to ram that message home to everyone, constantly.
Plenty of them are saying it but our Corporate Controlled Conservative Press surpasses the truth and endlessly recites Republican talking points.
BREAKING: A suspected terror attack is unfolding after reports of an explosion and heavy gunfire at a hotel complex in the Kenyan capital Nairobi https://t.co/BgTzFtBuc1
— Sky News (@SkyNews) January 15, 2019
re: #211 Dave In Austin
not a snowflake no snowflake ur the snowflake
re: #242 jeffreyw
“Seriously, crumbs? What kind of crap diner is this?”
re: #259 Sir John Barron
Definitely not snowflakes don’t call them snowflakes
Yeah don’t tell men that we can be better!
re: #251 Sir John Barron
Can’t wait till this is a major plank in the GOP platform.
Please let it be. That would completely blow minds of the majority Republicans here at my job.
According to this secret White House report, by the end of the week the shutdown could have slowed growth by 30 basis points.
This would more than overwhelm the temporary growth boost from the republican tax bill. (between 2 to 26 basis points)https://t.co/PNoxTdFwmw— Zach Moller???? (@econwonk) January 15, 2019
Read this thread showing how Trump’s idiotic shutdown to force funding of a boondoggle border wall will cost the economy dearly.
It’s now estimated that it will wipe out the already reduced benefit of the GOP’s tax scam. And it hits just as Trump’s trade war continues damage https://t.co/iL8N1KIU2E— lawhawk (@lawhawk) January 15, 2019
re: #262 HappyWarrior
Yeah don’t tell men that we can be better!
“Who said it’s better not to prey on women?”
re: #210 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
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Trying to imagine President Obama inviting a southern football team to the WH and feeding them McDonald’s.
re: #263 Belafon
Please let it be. That would completely blow minds of the majority Republicans here at my job.
Wouldn’t turn anybody in my office against Trump. Might make them double down on their endless love for him!
re: #266 Sir John Barron
Trying to imagine President Obama inviting a southern football team to the WH and feeding them McDonald’s.
Obama was a BBQ fan. You know he would have gotten some good food.
Mueller Now Apparently Looking at Jerome Corsi’s Stepson over ‘Scrubbed’ Computer https://t.co/h67SPrGqna pic.twitter.com/E1LbeAtjpv
— Law & Crime (@lawcrimenews) January 15, 2019
re: #135 austin_blue
He paid $1200 to buy, deliver, and serve cold fast food to the Clemson football team.
Alabama’s coach just huddled with his players and told them, “We won, big time.”
Alabama should invite them over for a cookout
re: #265 Belafon
“Who said it’s better not to prey on women?”
It’s depressing how many really do seem to see sexual harrassment, bullying, and open misogyny to be openly positive traits and proof of true masculinity.
I’d be tempted to dismiss it as just a loud minority, if not for a lot of the loudest political and cultural developments in years past.
Just realized I didn’t see any Chick-Fil-A on that fast food buffet table…
re: #266 Sir John Barron
They would have spun it as gross disrespect to the team. They would have claimed he demeaned the Office of the President, and argued that this was a huge scandal. They would have investigated who paid for it and whether he was getting kickbacks for picking those fast food choices.
re: #267 Joe Bacon ??
Wouldn’t turn anybody in my office against Trump. Might make them double down on their endless love for him!
Our jobs depend partially on that relationship.
re: #271 Citizen K
It’s depressing how many really do seem to see sexual harrassment, bullying, and open misogyny to be openly positive traits and proof of true masculinity.
I’d be tempted to dismiss it as just a loud minority, if not for a lot of the loudest political and cultural developments in years past.
Yeah it’s really ugly.
re: #236 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
Having lived in China for 10 years, going back to America and seeing so many seriously overweight people is a real shock.
at the same time, we have such unrealistic standards and expectations of attractiveness, it is no wonder that many people just give up.
ditto with our standards of success and satisfaction
re: #273 lawhawk
They would have spun it as gross disrespect to the team. They would have claimed he demeaned the Office of the President, and argued that this was a huge scandal. They would have investigated who paid for it and whether he was getting kickbacks for picking those fast food choices.
And when the White House tried to make excuses about furloughed kitchen staff and Obama paying for it out of his pocket, they’d call him “cheap” and point to it as yet another example of how the shutdown is hurting America’s reputation.
Morning!
Looks like the general thinking of the fast food fest at the White House here at LGF doesn’t match up with how a lot of the media is playing it.
So far everything I’ve seen has been positive. Hey, they’re young football players why wouldn’t they love fast food, everyone loves burgers and pizzas!
Ugh.
I guess our expectations are too high.
Or, other expectations aren’t high enough.
re: #230 Curious Lifeform
RE: Trump and McDonalds. I lived in the US for a while - California. I found two kinds of people; the first were super-fit, beautiful people, ran ten miles every morning, ate a stick of celery for lunch then threw it back up (that’s not a bad-taste joke - some did; this was the nineties).
The other kind ate mountains of McDonalds every hour, every day, then blamed the restaurant for their condition.
I think Trump’s stunt will be loved by one kind and loathed by the other. Perhaps it wasn’t so stupid.
K.
Without a doubt, the latter kind wouldn’t care about how absolutely garish and tasteless that stunt with Clemson came off as. Which is to say, that’s how he’s always been, garish and tasteless.
There aren’t enough of them to move the needle on his numbers, it just continues the calcification trend for/against, a trend that began in 2015 and just goes on. Which is why recent polls showing a loss of support for Trump among non-college people because of the shutdown and wall is not insignificant… it’s actually starting to cut into his base.
re: #278 ObserverArt
Morning!
Looks like the general thinking of the fast food fest at the White House here at LGF doesn’t match up with how a lot of the media is playing it.
So far everything I’ve seen has been positive. Hey, they’re young football players why wouldn’t they love fast food, everyone loves burgers and pizzas!
Ugh.
I guess our expectations are too high.
Or, other expectations aren’t high enough.
“expectations aren’t high enough”
Someone lowered them.
re: #278 ObserverArt
Morning!
Looks like the general thinking of the fast food fest at the White House here at LGF doesn’t match up with how a lot of the media is playing it.
So far everything I’ve seen has been positive. Hey, they’re young football players why wouldn’t they love fast food, everyone loves burgers and pizzas!
Ugh.
I guess our expectations are too high.
Or, other expectations aren’t high enough.
I mean I’m sure some did like the food but the WH is supposed to be a special trip. Why get someone something they can easily get on or near campus? Hell Mulvaney is from SC. Ask him about SC special foods like shrimp and grits.
re: #266 Sir John Barron
Trying to imagine President Obama inviting a southern football team to the WH and feeding them McDonald’s.
1) Obama would not have done so, regardless, he would have been criticized for whatever he chose to feed them
2) I have long since given up even thinking about the reaction to “What if Obama had done __________?”
re: #278 ObserverArt
Morning!
Looks like the general thinking of the fast food fest at the White House here at LGF doesn’t match up with how a lot of the media is playing it.
So far everything I’ve seen has been positive. Hey, they’re young football players why wouldn’t they love fast food, everyone loves burgers and pizzas!
Ugh.
I guess our expectations are too high.
Or, other expectations aren’t high enough.
The media decided ages ago that Trump was never going to manage to reach or top the bar for presidential behavior that they’d set for Obama, so they began lowering it so that it now rests on the floor of Satan’s wine cellar. But magically it’s going to rise again…but only for his opponents and only for the duration of his reelection effort. He’ll be allowed to continue to act like an uneducated slob because “That’s who he is, ” but if Kamala Harris says she likes arugula or dijon mustard? All shit’s gonna break loose because “SHE’S TOTALLY A COASTAL ELITE!”
re: #278 ObserverArt
Morning!
Looks like the general thinking of the fast food fest at the White House here at LGF doesn’t match up with how a lot of the media is playing it.
So far everything I’ve seen has been positive. Hey, they’re young football players why wouldn’t they love fast food, everyone loves burgers and pizzas!
Ugh.
I guess our expectations are too high.
Or, other expectations aren’t high enough.
Wait until the players get interviewed about having been subjected to the stunt. Unless they had to sign NDAs, they ain’t going to be as charitable as the media is right now.
re: #284 Myron Falwell
Wait until the players get interviewed about having been subjected to the stunt. Unless they had to sign NDAs, they ain’t going to be as charitable as the media is right now.
I’m pretty sure a lot of them have been warned about how it reflects on the school and their scholarships.
re: #285 Belafon
I’m pretty sure a lot of them have been warned about how it reflects on the school and their scholarships.
Ayep, the most you’re going to hear is something to the effect of “It’s not what I expected.”
re: #281 HappyWarrior
I mean I’m sure some did like the food but the WH is supposed to be a special trip. Why get someone something they can easily get on or near campus? Hell Mulvaney is from SC. Ask him about SC special foods like shrimp and grits.
There was no requirement to turn the traditional mutual photo-op into a meal at all. A normal visit might have included light refreshments. Instead the Trump WH falls back into FUBAHR mode.
re: #287 Decatur Deb
There was no requirement to turn the traditional mutual photo-op into a meal at all. A normal visit might have included light refreshments. Instead the Trump WH falls back into FUBAHR mode.
True
re: #285 Belafon
I’m pretty sure a lot of them have been warned about how it reflects on the school and their scholarships.
Pretty much the same as signing an NDA.
I mean I’m the end, it’s a small issue but it again shows how he lacks class.
re: #287 Decatur Deb
There was no requirement to turn the traditional mutual photo-op into a meal at all. A normal visit might have included light refreshments. Instead the Trump WH falls back into FUBAHR mode.
It was another example of Donny playing to his base. “Hey, look at how I greeted these guys with ‘Merican hamburgers and pizza! Obama never would have done that!”
re: #267 Joe Bacon ??
Wouldn’t turn anybody in my office against Trump. Might make them double down on their endless love for him!
“We’ve always hated NATO anyway it’s like the UN taking America’s sovereignty.”
re: #287 Decatur Deb
There was no requirement to turn the traditional mutual photo-op into a meal at all. A normal visit might have included light refreshments. Instead the Trump WH falls back into FUBAHR mode.
A reminder that the Crimson Tide visited the WH in April 2018, months after winning the CFB D1 championship. The only reason why Clemson visited so early was to show spite to the Democrats because they aren’t caving and will never cave.
Oh, and the Red Sox haven’t shown up to celebrate their World Series title. Can you blame them?
re: #292 Sir John Barron
“We’ve always hated NATO anyway it’s like the UN taking America’s sovereignty.”
I can agree that we need to rethink NATO’s role in the world ever since its main opponent, the Warsaw Pact, bit the dust decades ago.
But this is all about distracting the public and appeasing the base.
re: #293 Myron Falwell
A reminder that the Crimson Tide visited the WH in April 2018, months after winning the CFB D1 championship. The only reason why Clemson visited so early was to show spite to the Democrats because they aren’t caving and will never cave.
Oh, and the Red Sox haven’t shown up to celebrate their World Series title. Can you blame them?
I believe the traditional World Series winner is typically in the summer when they have a series with the O’s or Nats.
re: #127 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
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re: #290 HappyWarrior
I mean I’m the end, it’s a small issue but it again shows how he lacks class.
Anything he does confirms this. Trump’s been garish and classless since the goddam 1980s, he’s an embodiment of that decade.
re: #294 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I can agree that we need to rethink NATO’s role in the world ever since its main opponent, the Warsaw Pact, bit the dust decades ago.
But this is all about distracting the public and appeasing the base.
Well the main point of NATO was to counter the USSR. There may be no formal pact for Putin and his allies but there definitely are two worlds emerging with Germany, France, others at one end and others like Russia, Hungary at the other. Plus our NATO allies helped after 911. By all means acknowledge NATO’s mission has changed but a strong NATO is good for Europe and the US which is exactly why Putin and Trump hate it.
re: #297 Myron Falwell
Anything he does confirms this. Trump’s been garish and classless since the goddam 1980s, he’s an embodiment of that decade.
So true. They should have just left him there when the clock struck 1990.
re: #298 HappyWarrior
Well the main point of NATO was to counter the USSR. There may be no formal pact for Putin and his allies but there definitely are two worlds emerging with Germany, France, others at one end and others like Russia, Hungary at the other. Plus our NATO allies helped after 911. By all means acknowledge NATO’s mission has changed but a strong NATO is good for Europe and the US which is exactly why Putin and Trump hate it.
Which Putin would like for Russia to be a threat again. Europe shouldn’t have to worry about two fronts, though.
re: #294 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I can agree that we need to rethink NATO’s role in the world ever since its main opponent, the Warsaw Pact, bit the dust decades ago.
But this is all about distracting the public and appeasing the base.
It’s also a growing affirmation that Trump is, in ObserverArt’s words, a Russian potted plant. No one else in an elected/selected position like his here in the US would routinely disparage a key domestic alliance like NATO, regardless of if it could ever happen. Only now the media is starting to connect the dots and say, “gee, this could be kinda sorta bad!”
And I wouldn’t be surprised to see Rex Tillerson behind this leak. This stuff more than undermined his position.
re: #295 HappyWarrior
I believe the traditional World Series winner is typically in the summer when they have a series with the O’s or Nats.
Hmmm, hadn’t realized this but it would make sense.
re: #278 ObserverArt
Morning!
Looks like the general thinking of the fast food fest at the White House here at LGF doesn’t match up with how a lot of the media is playing it.
So far everything I’ve seen has been positive. Hey, they’re young football players why wouldn’t they love fast food, everyone loves burgers and pizzas!
Ugh.
I guess our expectations are too high.
Or, other expectations aren’t high enough.
They’re afraid of being Jim Acosta’ed by SMS’ cleaning crew.
re: #300 Belafon
Which Putin would like for Russia to be a threat again. Europe shouldn’t have to worry about two fronts, though.
Putin’s Russia is not the USSR, out to implement an world-wide ideology, but it has its expansionist plans, namely to restore the old Russian Empire.
re: #80 HappyWarrior
Well I’m saying they could have bulk ordered from a nicer restaurant. When I had a work party in DC, we got it from a really good bbq place.
Trump has a hotel in DC. Doesn’t it have a kitchen?
re: #302 Myron Falwell
It’s also a growing affirmation that Trump is, in ObserverArt’s words, a Russian potted plant. No one else in an elected/selected position like his here in the US would routinely disparage a key domestic alliance like NATO, regardless of if it could ever happen. Only now the media is starting to connect the dots and say, “gee, this could be kinda sorta bad!”
And I wouldn’t be surprised to see Rex Tillerson behind this leak. This stuff more than undermined his position.
All the steady drip, drip of anti-NATO stuff has been preparing the way for this.
re: #281 HappyWarrior
I mean I’m sure some did like the food but the WH is supposed to be a special trip. Why get someone something they can easily get on or near campus? Hell Mulvaney is from SC. Ask him about SC special foods like shrimp and grits.
Oh yeah, one of the local NBC talking heads went on about no staff at the White House implying no chefs and servers, etc. And she also mentioned Trump paid for it.
Success to Sarah Sanders tweets.
And when a person that is supposed to be informed to inform others doesn’t look into the details we get the “reporting” we get.
Yeah I know…morning news, more entertainment than news.
Hey, the weather is important!!! Be sure to pack extra blankets and gloves and water and maybe some snacks in your SUV just in case you get trapped in the 4 inches of snow.
Our country backsliding down the proverbial slippery slope…no big deal.
Some good news:
A federal judge in New York has ruled against the Trump administration’s decision to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census.
U.S. District Judge Jesse Furman ordered the administration to stop its plans to include the controversial question on forms for the upcoming national head count “without curing the legal defects” the judge identified in his opinion released on Tuesday.
I expect Trump will be bleating about it soon enough.
re: #249 lawhawk
There’s a real simple solution, turtle calls a vote and they override the veto.
re: #303 Sir John Barron
Hmmm, hadn’t realized this but it would make sense.
Yeah it increases the odds you’ll get the whole team together. Gotta remember a lot of these guys even live in other countries in the Winter and some younger guys even play in the Carribean.
re: #306 John Hughes
Trump has a hotel in DC. Doesn’t it have a kitchen?
Exactly. Could have gotten the same food there.
re: #153 Anymouse ??
All Christian faith puts blame on Eve. Eve tricked Adam to eat the forbidden fruit.
It is not “RWNJ” faith. All Christian faith puts the blame on Eve as the reason for the “fall of man.”
Ah, no.You’re also presuming that every Christian accepts Augustine’s heretical reading of Genesis. But then, only you are ever right about religion so I must bow down to your superiority.
Something to bring up next time a wingnut talks to you about “law and order”:
Fox News legal analyst loses it over latest Russia bombshells — and calls for ‘rogue’ FBI to be disbanded https://t.co/hbgNHJZ1a4
— Raw Story (@RawStory) January 15, 2019
re: #193 Decatur Deb
But that Annunciation version is 180 degrees wrong.
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Read the Magnificat…
re: #314 Targetpractice
Something to bring up next time a wingnut talks to you about “law and order”:
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I remember Ron Paul talked about it years ago but at least that was somewhat based on principle rather than “I don’t like that this agency investigated Trump.”
re: #315 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
sure. well eventually for one of them…..
The French do them one better
re: #318 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
The French do them one better
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Raahe, Finland…
re: #153 Anymouse ??
All Christian faith puts blame on Eve. Eve tricked Adam to eat the forbidden fruit.
It is not “RWNJ” faith. All Christian faith puts the blame on Eve as the reason for the “fall of man.”
One of the sermons I remember as a kid was the preacher talking about that passage. Eve gets told by the serpent it’s ok to eat the apple. She decides to listen to him over God and does. Then she takes it to Adam and he agrees with her and eats it. Then, when God comes down and gets onto them, Adam goes “It’s all her fault!” As my preacher said, thus began the era of men blaming women for their actions.
I see there is further talk about the Conway’s marriage up thread.
I bet they get along famously.
I think we need to keep in mind Kellyanne is nothing more than a political mercenary.
She is paid to bullshit, blow smoke and neutralize the press.
She is not paid to like Donald Trump. But, part of her job is to not make that well known. But it has leaked out. I think it was said she told some people at MSNBC (Joe & Mika ?) it is just a job and she thinks Trump is a joke.
So, she is perfect for the job.
And I bet she is so good at it, she even neutralizes Trump should he ever ask about George’s Tweets, etc.
I dislike her, but she is good at whatever it is she is doing. And that is probably more important to Trump than her husbands criticisms.
Time for this Photoshop from my collection…
As far as the Gillette ad is concerned, that’s a good thing done by one part of a company. That it still advertises on Tucker needs to be hammered on.
bellator iustitia socialis!
re: #321 Teukka
Raahe, Finland…
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Italy does it best. A significant street in our town was marked “One Way Except for Buses and Taxis”.
re: #315 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve
sure. well eventually for one of them…..
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See that other sign there in the background?
Yeah, it is confusing, but there are a lot of highway indication signs on surface streets in America just like that. The ramps for both directions are up ahead…take your pick!
JUST IN: Federal judge bars Trump from adding citizenship question to Census https://t.co/5Zg08g46Jw pic.twitter.com/GXcv06Lneu
— The Hill (@thehill) January 15, 2019
Good morning Lizards:
Samsung’s new fridge will ping your phone if you leave the door open https://t.co/2aeitdLDe3 pic.twitter.com/r8uiJuAOVF
— The Verge (@verge) January 13, 2019
why the fuck doesn’t it just close the door itself if it’s so smart https://t.co/1HHqJhCtFH
— Internet of Shit (@internetofshit) January 13, 2019
re: #310 Colère Tueur de Lapin
There’s a real simple solution, turtle calls a vote and they override the veto.
That’s the only out. And Mitch can’t have that happen because it will humiliate him even more than it will humiliate Trump.
If Trump was to have executed an “emergency declaration,” the time for that passed a long time ago. It should have been when he gave that speech last Tuesday. Support for that in the polls never took hold and it now amounts to an empty threat meant to scare, typical of Trump. And the Democrats aren’t buying it.
All that Mitch can do is just delay the inevitable, blaming Democrats with claims that don’t resonate with anyone. And then there’s Linds begging for Trump to do the “emergency declaration,” Murkowski blaming Trump but giving her own boss Mitch a free pass, and Susan Collins acting like she’s auditioning to be a LifeAlert spokesperson.
Their Trump Titanic hit the iceberg and is taking on water, and they are going to all go down with the ship.
LIVE: Controlled demolition of old Tappan Zee Bridge https://t.co/Rzoqi7vJUn via @ABC7NY
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) January 15, 2019
re: #325 William Lewis
As far as the Gillette ad is concerned, that’s a good thing done by one part of a company. That it still advertises on Tucker needs to be hammered on.
bellator iustitia socialis!
P&G should have debuted the ad on Tucker’s show, then immediately announced they’ll pull all ads on his show going forward. The ensuing meltdown by the Fox News crowd would have been delicious.
re: #322 Belafon
One of the sermons I remember as a kid was the preacher talking about that passage. Eve gets told by the serpent it’s ok to eat the apple. She decides to listen to him over God and does. Then she takes it to Adam and he agrees with her and eats it. Then, when God comes down and gets onto them, Adam goes “It’s all her fault!” As my preacher said, thus began the era of men blaming women for their actions.
I’ve always found how differently people interpret things whether it be scripture like the Bible, documents like the Constitution, pamphlets like the Communist Manifesto, etc to be fascinating. As some of you guys know, my father had an uncle who was a Catholic priest. There are some clergy who take that message and they live like celebrities. My Uncle Bill lived pretty modestly in a poor and predominately African-American part of Louisiana. Since a lot got made about Pope Francis being a Jesuit, I was curious about Uncle Bill and what order he may have been a part of. I eventually discovered that his alma mater, Duquesne University in Pittsburgh was and still is a center for the Holy Ghost Fathers and the Holy Ghost Fathers made a lot of their original duty working with freed slaves throughout the continent. Of course, their record like any group is not without blemishes, the founder of the infamous Society of Pius X, Marcel Lefebvre was the head of the order towards the end of my Uncle’s life and Father Lefebvre is known to not just being very conservative in church matters but personally bigoted towards Jews. A story related to me by a cousin on my father’s father’s side(the in laws of Uncle Bill) related to a story concerning my father’s paternal grandmother. It was the mid 50’s and my Dad’s older cousin was to be married. She was marrying an Episcopalian man. My Dad’s grandmother worried about attending a wedding at an Episcopalian church but Uncle Bill, her son’s brother in law told her not worry about it. Now am I certain that Uncle Bill and I probably would have strongly disagreed about things like abortion and gay marriage? Yeah but I think he definitely was pretty progressive minded for his times and church. I guess the point here is it is we who interpret religion into what it is. Some people take a more liberal interpretation and even though I don’t see myself as a Christian or even an outright theist, I like that. Some take a conservative one. And others, I say most others take a middle ground because they want to retain what they deem important in the church’s teachings and shrug off what they feel might be obsolete.
re: #333 Myron Falwell
P&G should have debuted the ad on Tucker’s show, then immediately announced they’ll pull all ads on his show going forward. The ensuing meltdown by the Fox News crowd would have been delicious.
Would have been delicious but I fear the only major corp capable of doing that was Apple while Steve Jobs was still alive. Brass gonads the size of Luna…
?? Barr says “I don’t recall” getting any confidential information about the investigation. Doesn’t recall?
— Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) January 15, 2019
William Barr says that he has not researched the emoluments clause. “I couldn’t even tell you what it says.”
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) January 15, 2019
It’s another morning of Republicans lying in public.
re: #334 HappyWarrior
I’ve always found how differently people interpret things whether it be scripture like the Bible, documents like the Constitution, pamphlets like the Communist Manifesto, etc to be fascinating.
I am glad that God gave our Founding Fathers the foresight to separate Church and State3, they obviously did not want theological disputes turning into political issues.
And even a modern, non-allegorical and fairly straightforward document like the Constitution needs a body of legal scholars to give us a final interpretation of how to implement it at times.
re: #336 jaunte
It’s another morning of Republicans lying in public.
In other words, another day ending in “-y”.
re: #329 bd(it’s all true)
Good morning Lizards:
We kind of beat on that yesterday.
1. Do you want a fridge that can close itself? “I’m sorry, I can’t let you have that cake, Dave.”
2. Sometimes a fridge is open because something is obstructing it. If it kept repeatingly try to close, it could burn out that motor, which would be another expensive part to replace.
I apologize for the long drone rant about religion and interpretation. Ultimately, I interpret the Bible much like I do the Constitution and this might explain why liberally minded people whether they believe in the Bible or scripture or not might have the same way of interpretation the Constitution. I believe in the principles of the Constitution but I believe in considering when it was written too. It’s the same thing with the Bible. And one might add the same thing with what Marx and other political philosophers have written about.
re: #330 Myron Falwell
That’s the only out. And Mitch can’t have that happen because it will humiliate him even more than it will humiliate Trump.
If Trump was to have executed an “emergency declaration,” the time for that passed a long time ago. It should have been when he gave that speech last Tuesday. Support for that in the polls never took hold and it now amounts to an empty threat meant to scare, typical of Trump. And the Democrats aren’t buying it.
All that Mitch can do is just delay the inevitable, blaming Democrats with claims that don’t resonate with anyone. And then there’s Linds begging for Trump to do the “emergency declaration,” Murkowski blaming Trump but giving her own boss Mitch a free pass, and Susan Collins acting like she’s auditioning for a LifeAlert spokesperson.
Their Trump Titanic hit the iceberg and is taking on water, and they are going to all go down with the ship.
There’s no exit strategy at this point, no matter what option they take they’re gonna piss a whole lot of people off.
Reopening the gov’t without wall funding, whether by Donny’s signature or an overridden veto, would cause the base to go nuclear.
By the same token, declaring a national emergency at this point would kill whatever hope the GOP had of winning over fence-sitters before 2020 and would just lead to a very bruising legal fight that the WH would end up losing.
And just continuing to hold out in the hopes that the DNC will eventually crack just means the slow death of his presidency as the shutdown has begun to eat even into his base’s support.
Smartest thing to do would be the to rip off the band-aid by reopening the gov’t, pledging to get that money in some other fashion, and damning the DNC for all the damage “they caused.”
re: #175 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam
Those old “I got some land for sale in Florida” jokes just got a new lease on life.
It’s all good fun until Jimmy Hoffa’s body comes floating out of the ground.
re: #334 HappyWarrior
The Anglican church looks at a finding a middle way between the extremes by use of scripture, tradition and reason. All three are a critical part of understanding the Way in this world to creating the kingdom here. We aren’t even close to successful, any more than any other denomination is, but is that really a reason to stop trying?
re: #337 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I am glad that God gave our Founding Fathers the foresight to separate Church and State3, they obviously did not want theological disputes turning into political issues.
And even a modern, non-allegorical and fairly straightforward document like the Constitution needs a body of legal scholars to give us a final interpretation of how to implement it at times.
I don’t think God gave them that. I think experience and a good read of history gave them that. You gotta remember that these guys would have known people who would have remembered Cromwell’s time as :”Lord Protector” in England and furthermore as not all of them were Anglicans certainly would have resented the idea of a state church. It to me is so ironic seeing the theological and often lineal descendants of religious state persecution go “Yeah! We need a state church.” I may not even be Catholic but knowing what my Irish family experienced firstly in the Penal Laws along with being Eastern Rite Catholics in the Roman Catholic Hapsburg Empire on another side, that makes me want church and state separate. I believe church and state being separate is to the benefit of both parties.
re: #344 William Lewis
The Anglican church looks at a finding a middle way between the extremes by use of scripture, tradition and reason. All three are a critical part of understanding the Way in this world to creating the kingdom here. We aren’t even close to successful, any more than any other denomination is, but is that really a reason to stop trying?
I really admire the Anglican church because of all the major denominations, you all try to consider the times we’re in. Which is why I’m not surprised that Anglicans have been leaders in the ordination of women and support for same sex marriage along with taking a more liberal attitude on choice. I also like how you retain a lot of the aesthetic beauty of religious ceremony but not doing the guilt. You’ve often said of your church that you’re the Catholics without the guilt. Guilt can be a good emotion to have but it shouldn’t drive one’s theology and I really respect that the Anglicans get that. And no keep on trying. Religion may not be for me personally but I know it can comfort people.
Thousands? What are you shaving?
— ken (@holmeschap) January 15, 2019
re: #348 Ace-o-aces
I could imagine that he’s spending $100s on P&G products, but not necessarily Gillette, which would mean that he’s eating razors, shaving cream, after shave, and deodorants like they were candy.
Besides, has he ever heard of Costco? /supersize me!
Barr: “If a president attempts to intervene in a matter that he has a personal stake in, that should be looked at as a breach of his constitutional duty.”
— Michael Isikoff (@Isikoff) January 15, 2019
Ample evidence Trump has. What remedy would #williambarr recommend? https://t.co/e6p1J4mWJ8
— Vanita Gupta (@vanitaguptaCR) January 15, 2019
re: #348 Ace-o-aces
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Yeah they’re going to miss you and the other triggered losers so much. Remember when you guys thought that Nike would flop after the Kap ad. Oh and NFL ratings are back up. There’s a lot of men who don’t feel triggered by an ad saying that we need to be better but then again you’re a man who threw a fit over a vegan sausage bun option.
re: #336 jaunte
It’s another morning of Republicans lying in public.
Maybe the next AG should “know what it says”.
re: #345 Decatur Deb
Ravenna had a problem with working girls getting clipped while negotiating with drivers on one of the busy streets. They answered with warning signage. (The originals were classier, a girl leaning on a lampost—Lilli Marlene meets ISO)
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Love the bag.
re: #348 Ace-o-aces
He needs a lot of cans of shaving cream to cover the windshields of his critics.
re: #350 jaunte
Just from the past 10 days:
1) NPS opens up Trump hotel location, while rest of the NPS system is collapsing in a morass of crap (literal and figurative) as the shutdown wears on.
2) Trump lied about contacts with Russia, and sought to conceal contents of meetings from even his own admin.
The continued effort to denigrate Obama as somehow the super-worst President ever after the fact, not just by the GOP but lefter-than-thou folks is fucking exhausting.
The financial crisis was Obama’s moment of truth, and he sided with the establishment. Now, the 2020 field must contend with an uncomfortable question: was Obama a bad president? https://t.co/WY6JExdxoI
— VANITY FAIR (@VanityFair) January 15, 2019
re: #356 Citizen K
The financial crisis was Obama’s moment of truth, and he sided with the establishment. Now, the 2020 field must contend with an uncomfortable question: was Obama a bad president?
Flipping all the desks
re: #346 HappyWarrior
I don’t think God gave them that. I think experience and a good read of history gave them that.
I was being a bit ironical there…
re: #356 Citizen K
The continued effort to denigrate Obama as somehow the super-worst President ever after the fact, not just by the GOP but lefter-than-thou folks is fucking exhausting.
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You already answered your question by acknowledging what he did do. I yes would have preferred Obama take a harder line than he did but I also realize that not everything is as black and white as the leftier than thou want to make it out to be and treating Obama as a failed President to me is a great way to lose the 2020 Dem nomination because it ignores what Obama did in fact do that can’t be forgotten.
re: #356 Citizen K
When saving the entire national financial structure from ruin is “siding with the establishment.”
re: #361 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
women use Gillette, too
I really don’t think Piers realizes that.
re: #363 jaunte
When saving the entire national financial structure from ruin is “siding with the establishment.”
That’s what happens when you take the Bernie Sanders approach to economics.
re: #359 HappyWarrior
You already answered your question by acknowledging what he did do. I yes would have preferred Obama take a harder line than he did but I also realize that not everything is as black and white as the leftier than thou want to make it out to be and treating Obama as a failed President to me is a great way to lose the 2020 Dem nomination because it ignores what Obama did in fact do that can’t be forgotten.
But see, it doesn’t matter, Obama didn’t get the unicorn of total National Health Care, and didn’t slash and burn Wall Street to the ground, therefore he is Republican Lite and in fact even worse than a Republican president would have been. Logic!
re: #363 jaunte
When saving the entire national financial structure from ruin is “siding with the establishment.”
It’s like the idea of ‘making the best of a bad situation’ doesn’t even factor into things with some folks. It truly is a binary situation for them.
re: #364 HappyWarrior
I really don’t think Piers realizes that.
there are a lot of things he doesn’t realize, which is what makes it so much fun to yank his chain
re: #363 jaunte
When saving the entire
nationalWORLD financial structure from ruin is “siding with the establishment.”
we all remember what happened when the world financial structure wasn’t saved from ruin…
re: #356 Citizen K
The continued effort to denigrate Obama as somehow the super-worst President ever after the fact, not just by the GOP but lefter-than-thou folks is fucking exhausting.
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A decade later, the nitwits writing articles like these are totally ignorant of the situation that existed in 2009, when businesses were scared shitless they wouldn’t be able to make payroll due to the credit crunch, let alone stay in business when their customers were losing their own homes or locking their credit cards up in a safe out of fear. This is one of those moments where the wingnut/moonbat convergence really shows, when you have nimrods on both ends of the aisle screaming that bankers should have been hung from lampposts as though that would have done anything but turned a Recession into a Depression.
re: #349 lawhawk
I could imagine that he’s spending $100s on P&G products, but not necessarily Gillette, which would mean that he’s eating razors, shaving cream, after shave, and deodorants like they were candy.
Besides, has he ever heard of Costco? /supersize me!
Here in Czech Republic, everything I buy is Balea brand, which is a store label of DM Drogerie of Germany.
Gillette is waay too expensive here. And frankly, Balea products are all very good and of generally high quality; I’ve never had a problem using any Balea product and I’ve been using them for well over a decade.
re: #368 sagehen
I really don’t get why these folks think banks should have gone under because no “little people” would be hurt by that.
re: #349 lawhawk
re: #348 Ace-o-aces
I could imagine that he’s spending $100s on P&G products, but not necessarily Gillette, which would mean that he’s eating razors, shaving cream, after shave, and deodorants like they were candy.
It’s Piers Morgan: that may not be as far-fetched a thesis as one might imagine.
re: #371 jaunte
I really don’t get why these folks think banks should have gone under because no “little people” would be hurt by that.
“Smaller banks would have taken their place and better served their communities! There was all this scaremongering about bank closures and people losing their savings, but think about how much better things would have been later! Yeah, I have all my money in a trust fund and work in an industry that didn’t get pinched by the credit crunch, but I know all sorts of poor folks who would have been glad to see the banks fall!”
William Barr refuses to commit to taking the advice of ethics officials within the DoJ if they recommend he should recuse himself from the Mueller investigation solely, saying that he makes the decision ultimately on recusal. pic.twitter.com/ka6sBTcq8M
— Amee Vanderpool (@girlsreallyrule) January 15, 2019
re: #342 Targetpractice
There’s no exit strategy at this point, no matter what option they take they’re gonna piss a whole lot of people off.
Reopening the gov’t without wall funding, whether by Donny’s signature or an overridden veto, would cause the base to go nuclear.
By the same token, declaring a national emergency at this point would kill whatever hope the GOP had of winning over fence-sitters before 2020 and would just lead to a very bruising legal fight that the WH would end up losing.
And just continuing to hold out in the hopes that the DNC will eventually crack just means the slow death of his presidency as the shutdown has begun to eat even into his base’s support.
Smartest thing to do would be the to rip off the band-aid by reopening the gov’t, pledging to get that money in some other fashion, and damning the DNC for all the damage “they caused.”
What is really telling is the behavior by Linds, Murkowski and Collins. You can’t tell me that it’s anything close to a unified front, they’re desperately trying to deflect in vain hopes that it will stick… but it’s not.
That being said, I don’t think they’re capable of doing the smartest thing now. When they cave, either next week or right at/after the SOTU in two weeks, the GOP totally misplayed this, and it will be too little, too late.
re: #356 Citizen K
The continued effort to denigrate Obama as somehow the super-worst President ever after the fact, not just by the GOP but lefter-than-thou folks is fucking exhausting.
“FDR chose to side with the Soviet Union. Was he a bad war president?”
re: #91 HappyWarrior
Yeah if you’re going to do burgers. Get some angus beef and grill away.
I wouldn’t have criticized him if he broke out ther BBQgrill with an apron and everything. That would have actually been the first thing he has done that I would have respected.
re: #374 jaunte
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re: #369 Targetpractice
This is one of those moments where the wingnut/moonbat convergence really shows, when you have nimrods on both ends of the aisle screaming that bankers should have been hung from lampposts as though that would have done anything but turned a Recession into a Depression.
The Wingnuts wanted so see the Free Market run its course and purge itself. Wingnuts wanted to see the banks closed and/or nationalized. We got the worst of both aspects.
But still probably the best possible solution at the time.
Problem is, without a crisis bearing down upon is, we have done little to address the core issues, namely that if a bank is Too Big to Fail, it is Too Big to Remain Unregulated.
re: #332 lawhawk
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Heh. Glad it worked out. At Thanksgiving, we had in-laws over, and the husband had been working a boat crew for the whole new TZB project.
He told me that they had had a slight delay in scheduling the demolition of the old bridge: apparently their engineers’ modelling of the implosion had generated a 20% probability that the old section would actually crash into the new section; and that they were wanting to wait a bit to see if they could get better odds than that.
Looks like they finally figured it out.
Also worth noting that the Bureau of Land Management, crippled thank you shutdown, is responsible for the maintenance of Native lands. By neglecting this duty, the United States is in violation of treaties with these Indigenous Peoples and is obligated to return their land.
— Dan Cruzat, not a bot (@_Cruzat) January 15, 2019
Like anyone would actually take the US to court over that, even if it would be a 100% blindingly obvious case.
Barr says he hopes he can bring back public confidence in the FBI and Department of Justice and I submit that without comment
— Jessica Mason Pieklo (@Hegemommy) January 15, 2019
re: #373 Targetpractice
“Smaller banks would have taken their place and better served their communities! There was all this scaremongering about bank closures and people losing their savings, but think about how much better things would have been later! Yeah, I have all my money in a trust fund and work in an industry that didn’t get pinched by the credit crunch, but I know all sorts of poor folks who would have been glad to see the banks fall!”
“Obama should have nationalized all the banks.”
“How would that work? What would be the result?”
“…..”
re: #379 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
The Wingnuts wanted so see the Free Market run its course and purge itself. Wingnuts wanted to see the banks closed and/or nationalized. We got the worst of both aspects.
But still probably the best possible solution at the time.
Problem is, without a crisis bearing down upon is, we have done little to address the core issues, namely that if a bank is Too Big to Fail, it is Too Big to Remain Unregulated.
Thing is that Obama never really had an opportunity to do more because by the time that the crisis had passed, passing anything without facing a GOP veto was impossible. He barely got the ACA bill through and had to make concession after concession to do so, such as scrapping the public option to appease ol’ Joe “The Senator from Aetna” Lieberman.
re: #382 jaunte
You mean restore confidence in the FBI that DJT and his cronies have sullied?
re: #382 jaunte
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Well Johnny, you know, maybe that wouldn’t have happened if your asshole Trump hadn’t pretty much said he fired Comey because of Russia, maybe if he didn’t continue to take the Russian line. The evidence has been there but you and your fellow crooked Republicans would rather have tax cut freebies for your donors than actually have a President who cares about America. Fuck you and your fake outrage. And if there’s any justice, you will be unemployed next November for being a Senator for Trump instead of for Texas.
re: #386 Sir John Barron
Remove disloyal agents, replace with trusted minions. We can call them “confidence men.”
re: #382 jaunte
You mean by seeking every text message by every agent or by pushing back against DJT’s BS?
re: #382 jaunte
Cornyn is mad because they know they’ve been caught. If Devin Nunes is under investigation, no one is safe.
re: #381 Myron Falwell
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Like anyone would actually take the US to court over that, even if it would be a 100% blindingly obvious case.
The definition of “blindingly obvious” seems to depend on who’s the judge…
re: #382 jaunte
Hard to understand why Barr wants this job.
Hard to understand how any prospective cabinet member would want any job in this Administration now.
re: #84 HappyWarrior
Like ffs show some class. These kids don’t get to eat well that often. And no Donald, it’s defin not among their favorite food. They’re not out of shape fucks like you are.
I am with you in spirit, but as a Clemson alum and rabid fan, I can state that these kids eat like Greek gods. The athletic budget supports a dietician-driven full meal plan, with high-end food for these kids. Try to imagine Christian Wilkins sitting down to a dinner with steak and shrimp. There are probably oceanic regions that take years to recover from the loss of sea life that kid can put down.
re: #392 Sir John Barron
Hard to understand why Barr wants this job.
Hard to understand how any prospective cabinet member would want any job in this Administration now.
He knows eventually he’ll get a book deal where he’ll claim he was the one who kept Trump from going full tyrant.
Barr: “I have not personally researched the emoluments clause. I couldn’t even tell you what it says.”
— Aaron Blake (@AaronBlake) January 15, 2019
“I, a nominee for Attorney General, couldn’t be bothered to spend ten minutes ahead of my Senate confirmation hearing brushing up on literally the foundational document of all law in this country” is sure one way to present yourself https://t.co/ka43rVCDUO
— Scott Madin (@ScottMadin) January 15, 2019
re: #393 steve_davis
I am with you in spirit, but as a Clemson alum and rabid fan, I can state that these kids eat like Greek gods. The athletic budget supports a dietician-driven full meal plan, with high-end food for these kids. Try to imagine Christian Wilkins sitting down to a dinner with steak and shrimp. There are probably oceanic regions that take years to recover from the loss of sea life that kid can put down.
Ah okay. Still though. Could do better than having fast food at the WH.
re: #391 sagehen
The definition of “blindingly obvious” seems to depend on who’s the judge…
Just like conflicts of interest and violations of the Emoluments Clause would be blindingly obvious to anyone but the GOP
re: #396 jaunte
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re: #396 jaunte
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“As well as coming up to speed on a legal matter that is at the heart of a court case the DOJ under my leadership will be expected to argue in the next 1-2 years.”
re: #395 HappyWarrior
He knows eventually he’ll get a book deal where he’ll claim he was the one who kept Trump from going full tyrant.
Not if the public image rehabilitation book deals for Tillerson, Mattis and John Kelly occur first.
This Barr hearing shouldn’t even be happening, because Trump never should have gotten rid of Sessions for not ending the Mueller investigation.
This is all a grotesque power grab in and of itself.— Sarah Reese Jones (@PoliticusSarah) January 15, 2019
Related: the Government is shutdown. These hearings are an affront to all those furloughed and not being paid right now. https://t.co/ryaMYb1rOL
— Alan W. Silberberg (@IdeaGov) January 15, 2019
re: #401 Myron Falwell
Not if the public image rehabilitation book deals for Tillerson, Mattis and John Kelly occur first.
True, true. I just know this. Barr will get confirmed and by the summer we’re going to be reading about how Trump “isn’t happy” with Barr.
re: #400 Targetpractice
“As well as coming up to speed on a legal matter that is at the heart of a court case the DOJ under my leadership will be expected to argue in the next 1-2 years.”
amazing bit is that they can get away with playing this stupid
re: #404 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
amazing bit is that they can get away with playing this stupid
That’s what having a majority in the Senate does for ya.
Lying while ‘not lying’
“I have not personally researched the emoluments clause.”
I have people do that for me.“I couldn’t even tell you what it says.”
I can’t literally quote the exact text.
re: #396 jaunte
That’s fascinating as fuck, because I knew what the emoluments clause meant when I was 16 years old, because my high school American History teacher explained it to us when we were studying the Constitution.
So, obviously, Dr. Lizardo for AG. My number one priority: the destruction of President Donald J. Trump (and I’ll tell him that to his face).
re: #391 sagehen
The definition of “blindingly obvious” seems to depend on who’s the judge…
Which is why the outright overturning of Trump’s DAPL permits in court a few months ago was nothing short of stunning.
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re: #403 HappyWarrior
True, true. I just know this. Barr will get confirmed and by the summer we’re going to be reading about how Trump “isn’t happy” with Barr.
I’d give it by mid-February. Especially when he isn’t commencing the purges inside the FBI like Donny wants him to.
re: #410 Myron Falwell
I’d give it by mid-February. Especially when he isn’t commencing the purges inside the FBI like Donny wants him to.
Oh certainly.
Well, it just keeps getting worse for Steve King (IA - NSDAP):
The No. 3 House Republican is calling on Rep. Steve King to resign, exposing a rift among GOP leaders as the controversy over the Iowa Republican continues coming to a head.
“I agree with Leader McConnell actually. I think he should find another line of work,” House Republican Conference Chairwoman Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., said Tuesday morning. That was a reference to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., who on Monday said if King did not know what was wrong with white supremacy and white nationalism, as he said in a recent New York Times article, he should get out of politics.
“I think you’ve seen now repeated — this wasn’t the first time — but his language questioning whether or not the notion of white supremacy is offensive is absolutely abhorrent. It’s racist. We do not support it or agree with it,” Cheney said.
Other Republicans, notably Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah, and Rep. Chris Stewart, R-Utah, have also called on King to resign.
BARR: “I had a very good life. I have a very good life. I love it. But I also want to help in this circumstance, and I am not going to do anything that I think is wrong, and I will not be bullied into doing anything I think is wrong… I’m going to do what I think is right.” pic.twitter.com/Zqep0MQsij
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 15, 2019
I’ve had a good life and successful career, so now I’m willing to *potentially* throw it all away to work in the Trump administration. https://t.co/5jtFITAKNu
— Molly Jong-Fast (@MollyJongFast) January 15, 2019
re: #413 Dr Lizardo
Well, it just keeps getting worse for Steve King (IA - NSDAP):
I want to do the a pox on both of their houses thing here because while I’m glad that those like Romney and Stewart are calling for him to resign, I also want to point out loudly that King has always been like this and as recently as this fall was openly questioning why white supremacy and nationalism have a bad name and campaigning with European fascist parties. I have no doubt that Steve King 85 years ago would be praising Hitler. No doubt at all about it.
re: #413 Dr Lizardo
Trump and Scalise have said the same things or worse… and no one among the GOP is demanding their resignation.
They’re going to try and deflect and try an end run to stop attention from focusing on the complete moral and ethical rot of the GOP by claiming it’s a lone rotten egg in King.
King’s been at this for years. Scalise met up with white supremacists. Trump equated white supremacists and goddamned Nazis with the people protesting them. King isn’t an outlier. He’s reflecting the GOP base.
re: #414 jaunte
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He won’t allow himself to be bullied, which is why he won’t commit to recusing himself if the DOJ ethics officials recommend he do so.
William Barr: “If a president attempts to intervene in a matter that he has a personal stake in, that should be looked at as a breach of his constitutional duty.”
Then why the heck are you willing to work for a President who has “breached his constitutional duty” multiple times?— Ed Krassenstein (@EdKrassen) January 15, 2019
Wouldn’t it be great if a special election is called for King’s seat should he be forced out, and the Democratic nominee wins it?
I know it’s a dream, but I can’t help it.
William Barr claims “I will act with the same integrity as I did with the George H. W. Bush administration.”
That’s the problem. Barr advocated the pardonin’ of every scoundrel in the Iran-Contra scandal.— Tea Pain (@TeaPainUSA) January 15, 2019
re: #419 Myron Falwell
Wouldn’t it be great if a special election is called for King’s seat should he be forced out, and the Democratic nominee wins it?
I know it’s a dream, but I can’t help it.
Hey the right candidate could do it but unfortunately I think it’s unlikely. That race was as close as it was simply because of King. That district I believe is by far the most Republican part of Iowa.
re: #410 Myron Falwell
I’d give it by mid-February. Especially when he isn’t commencing the purges inside the FBI like Donny wants him to.
“Look, I nominated this guy because he wrote this letter you said was very good for me I liked. How come the Hoax Mueller investigation is still going on? What am I paying this guy for?”
re: #422 Sir John Barron
“Look, I nominated this guy because he wrote this letter
you said was very good for meI liked. How come the Hoax Mueller investigation is still going on? What am I paying this guy for?”
That will pretty much be the implication and his usual apologists will go “Look the President should expect his AG to be loyal to him.”
re: #153 Anymouse ??
All Christian faith puts blame on Eve. Eve tricked Adam to eat the forbidden fruit.
It is not “RWNJ” faith. All Christian faith puts the blame on Eve as the reason for the “fall of man.”
Or as my father, retired Episcopal priest who retained more theology at 88 than the Vatican has in its entire Curia, would have said, original sin is some non-doctrinal bullshit that St. Augustine came up with because it helped him square a circular argument he was trapped in.
re: #420 jaunte
DJT: Who’d he say he worked for?
re: #424 HappyWarrior
That will pretty much be the implication and his usual apologists will go “Look the President should expect his AG to be loyal to him.”
But Lynch meeting with Bill Clinton at the airport was just the worst crime ever impeach!
Barr’s commitment to seek but not necessarily follow the advice of ethics officials is the Whitaker standard and falls short of what Holder, Sessions, Rosenstein, and Yates all committed to - to follow that advice. It’s obviously deliberate that he’s breaking precedent.
— Matthew Miller (@matthewamiller) January 15, 2019
re: #421 HappyWarrior
Hey the right candidate could do it but unfortunately I think it’s unlikely. That race was as close as it was simply because of King. That district I believe is by far the most Republican part of Iowa.
It was only competitive because King didn’t bother to run a campaign until the last week. Pretty sure that if he took it seriously the whole time, the results would have been totally lopsided in his favor.
re: #428 jaunte
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re: #429 Myron Falwell
It was only competitive because King didn’t bother to run a campaign until the last week. Pretty sure that if he took it seriously the whole time, the results would have been totally lopsided in his favor.
I think you’re right unfortunately. Ultimately this will be up to his constituents. The problem though is you get rid of King and there’s always someone new to take his place. The Dems really don’t have too many people like King in their caucus who are outright assholes. One could argue that Alan Grayson qualified but he’s gone now.
re: #431 HappyWarrior
I think you’re right unfortunately. Ultimately this will be up to his constituents. The problem though is you get rid of King and there’s always someone new to take his place. The Dems really don’t have too many people like King in their caucus who are outright assholes. One could argue that Alan Grayson qualified but he’s gone now.
They will argue that King was not conservative enough
re: #428 jaunte
This is why Trump picked him for the position. Barr’s willing to throw out precedent, minimum requirements for the job. He doesn’t want to address Emoluments & why they’re part of the Constitution he’s being asked to uphold. He wont even abide by the minimums set by predecessors
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) January 15, 2019
re: #432 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
They will argue that King was not conservative enough
Or argue that King was this way because he was actually a “leftist”, the Ben Shapiro tactic.
Every BernieBro, SteinHead, and Obama voter who voted for Donnie owes a public apology to HRC.
due to a large order placed yesterday, we’re all out of hamberders.
just serving hamburgers today.— Burger King (@BurgerKing) January 15, 2019
re: #436 The Vicious Babushka
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Thanks for the heads up! pic.twitter.com/CuxRuC8yBP
— Jim Hall (@jhall) January 15, 2019
re: #422 Sir John Barron
“Look, I nominated this guy because he wrote this letter
you said was very good for meI liked. How come the Hoax Mueller investigation is still going on? What am I paying this guy for?”
The threat of acting on something is psychological warfare. That’s totally characteristic of Trump… empty threats as a bullying tool.
Barr is using this tactic, too. Even if he knows the vast majority of his and Donny’s threats don’t come to pass, and nothing really happens, they’re still working to undermine the morale of the agents and the SCO.
That’s the real red flag here.
re: #433 lawhawk
Billy is as qualified to be AG as much as Donnie is qualified to be potus.
Will say this till I’m blue in the face: Trump officials do not want to reopen the government. That is not a goal. Shutting down “non-essential” agencies has been a Republican dream for years. pic.twitter.com/uuf24XueTK
— Brandon Friedman (@BFriedmanDC) January 15, 2019
re: #441 The Vicious Babushka
Which I take with a grain of salt because it’s still an anonymous op-ed in Tucker Carlson’s shithole website.
That’s why I am opposed to opening various agencies piecemeal.
The US economy crashing helps Russia. Trump is a Russian stooge. Everything he does helps Russia and nothing helps the US.
Republicans are all traitors. Every last one.— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) January 15, 2019
re: #441 The Vicious Babushka
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And really, the agencies that are shutdown are largely ones that they want to see gone anyway.
HUD? “GET A JOB, YOU FREELOADERS!”
IRS? “TAXATION IS THEFT!!!”
NPS? “THAT LAND BELONGS TO THE STATES!”
NASA? “WE CAN’T AFFORD TO WASTE MONEY ON THAT!”
About the only agency that they really would keep is DHS, and only for the purposes of funding ICE and BP. The rest? Fuck’em, they can get “real jobs.”
re: #445 Targetpractice
And really, the agencies that are shutdown are largely ones that they want to see gone anyway.
HUD? “GET A JOB, YOU FREELOADERS!”
IRS? “TAXATION IS THEFT!!!”
NPS? “THAT LAND BELONGS TO THE STATES!”
NASA? “WE CAN’T AFFORD TO WASTE MONEY ON THAT!”
About the only agency that they really would keep is DHS, and only for the purposes of funding ICE and BP. The rest? Fuck’em, they can get “real jobs.”
Yep.
re: #441 The Vicious Babushka
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re: #444 MsJ
JUST IN: McConnell blocks House bill to reopen government for second time https://t.co/CGQrB66zgU pic.twitter.com/SMLtyXz2RG
— The Hill (@thehill) January 15, 2019
I don’t want to hear a damn thing about both sides. This asshole needs to be dragged mercilessly. https://t.co/OJnBoz261y
— Wakandan War Dog (@Kennymack1971) January 15, 2019
re: #440 HappyWarrior
I still want my steamed hams.
But will they come with a display of the Aurora Borealis?
At this time of year?
Localized entirely within your kitchen?
re: #448 jaunte
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To which the media will argue that Mitch is only doing this because “Dems refuse to negotiate!”
re: #435 Dr. Matt
Every BernieBro, SteinHead, and Obama voter who voted for Donnie owes a public apology to HRC.
Nitpick: they’re not SteinHeads, they’re Jill Shills.
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We really need to recruit someone to take him out of the Senate. He needs to lose and lose badly.
re: #449 Dr Lizardo
But will they come with a display of the Aurora Borealis?
At this time of year?
Localized entirely within your kitchen?
Donald, the White House is on fire!
No, Ivanka, it’s just Crooked Hillary.
Hellllllllllllllp!
No Democrats will attend Trump’s meeting with congressional leaders today. Trump invited some moderate House Democrats in an effort to peel off votes from Pelosi, but they all rebuffed his invite. Statement from @PressSec: pic.twitter.com/zksj89Elt5
— Jeremy Diamond (@JDiamond1) January 15, 2019
re: #454 The Vicious Babushka
No Democrats will attend Trump’s meeting with congressional leaders today. Trump invited some moderate House Democrats in an effort to peel off votes from Pelosi, but they all rebuffed his invite.
This was just done so they can claim that Democrats won’t play ball
re: #454 The Vicious Babushka
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re: #454 The Vicious Babushka
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Good point from one of the replies:
Notice that Republicans who represent border areas opposed to the wall are not on the list. 8 in TX say no. No attendees from AZ, NM or CA. #TrumpShutdown
— Common Sense #1 (@PleaseThink1776) January 15, 2019
re: #454 The Vicious Babushka
The desperation within them is palpable. Nothing they’re doing is causing the Democrats to budge one iota.
re: #454 The Vicious Babushka
So far, the Dems are holding firm. I’m impressed.
re: #448 jaunte
Mitch is like the captain of the Titanic, if the captain decided to back up and hit the iceberg an additional three times.
JFC
Ivanka Trump will play a role in helping to select the next head of the World Bank, the White House said https://t.co/71qPsTz7Wh
— The New York Times (@nytimes) January 15, 2019
re: #340 HappyWarrior
I apologize for the long drone rant about religion and interpretation. Ultimately, I interpret the Bible much like I do the Constitution and this might explain why liberally minded people whether they believe in the Bible or scripture or not might have the same way of interpretation the Constitution. I believe in the principles of the Constitution but I believe in considering when it was written too. It’s the same thing with the Bible. And one might add the same thing with what Marx and other political philosophers have written about.
I didn’t mind the long rant…but paragraphs are your friend.
It makes it easier to read and keep your place when you look away or something.
Rant on!
re: #444 MsJ
Every FUCKING last one of them, down to mayor of a small town.
re: #462 ObserverArt
I didn’t mind the long rant…but paragraphs are your friend.
It makes it easier to read and keep your place when you look away or something.
Rant on!
Yes. Thanks.
I hope everyone realizes that this very recent right wing concern about alleged DOJ/FBI civil liberties abuses is entirely in bad faith.They’re upset that the institution they assumed was their partisan ally has shown some independence.
— digby (@digby56) January 15, 2019
This baby girl got her first hearing aids and can’t contain her happiness after hearing her sister’s voice for the first time ????
??ig: zidyboby/ Carol Benjamin pic.twitter.com/VIBLldLYP2— The Invisible Man (@invisibleman_17) January 15, 2019
re: #465 jaunte
More precisely, the GOP expects the FBI/DOJ to swear unwavering allegiance to Dear Leader.
Sen. Whitehouse on who paid 2person front group that paid whitaker >million dollars: cough up the identity of the donor. Barr non committal
— Laura Rozen (@lrozen) January 15, 2019
re: #468 Dr. Matt
More precisely, the GOP expects the FBI/DOJ to swear unwavering allegiance to Dear Leader.
What is the point of being President if you cannot make everybody do what you say?
Big kudos to Ernst for going full xenophobe out of the gates.
Barr says this is the kind of bill he is inclined to support— Jessica Mason Pieklo (@Hegemommy) January 15, 2019
re: #455 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
This was just done so they can claim that Democrats won’t play ball
They’ve already tried that. That statement isn’t working.
Having said that, Pelosi should have authorized them to say that they won’t fund the wall.
re: #465 jaunte
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Then Comey stood before the press and said there would be no indictments, that it was the judgment of the FBI that no crimes had been committed, and immediately the wingnut view of the FBI went from “Brave defenders of America’s laws!” to “A corrupted den of vipers which needs to be cleaned out by a lawman loyal to his president!”
re: #459 Dr Lizardo
So far, the Dems are holding firm. I’m impressed.
Pelosi got Democrats to sacrifice their careers for the ACA. You don’t go against Nancy.
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Tiny bits of technology made three lives a whole lot different, for the better. Improved mine a little bit, too. Thanks.
re: #476 HappyWarrior
The conservative project to restrict rights to a select few lumbers on.
re: #471 jaunte
Barr’s time at the DOJ was filled with expansive take on executive power, maximizing incarcerations, and this response is his daily double.
re: #477 wrenchwench
Thought we could use a little joy. Stuff is in short supply these days.
re: #454 The Vicious Babushka
Democrats don’t want left over cold hamburgers and fries.
Barr says we need a barrier system across the border (a Wall?) to stop the flow of drugs. Drugs aren’t coming between ports of entry. They’re coming through ports of entry, shipping ports and airports.
— Rachel Murphy Azzara #DemsWork4USA (@RachelAzzara) January 15, 2019
Lawyer who doesn’t know anything about the Emoluments Clause is suddenly an expert on border security.
re: #471 jaunte
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Sounds to me like a means of trying to circumvent “sanctuary city” laws/regs. Only way you’re going to figure out if someone is an “illegal” for the purposes of denying bond is by querying DHS, and odds are the moment you do that they know where to go and who to pick up if the query comes back in the affirmative.
For a party that preaches about the power of the 10A and their opposition of the federal gov’t nosing into state gov’t, they sure do love finding way to shackle state gov’ts.
re: #476 HappyWarrior
Due process is for everyone Joni.
She’s able to hide her racism in a way Steve King can’t.
re: #486 Myron Falwell
She’s able to hide her racism in a way Steve King can’t.
And that’s why the RSCC will fight hard to keep her.
re: #471 jaunte
This reads more like a wish list of the 2020 RNC “Platform” than a confirmation hearing.
re: #488 Myron Falwell
This reads more like a wish list of the 2020 RNC “Platform” than a confirmation hearing.
Well, considering these hearings are effectively a formality as there’s little chance Barr won’t be confirmed, this is largely a way for them to say that the future top lawman in the country says the law agrees with said wish list.
re: #369 Targetpractice
A decade later, the nitwits writing articles like these are totally ignorant of the situation that existed in 2009, when businesses were scared shitless they wouldn’t be able to make payroll due to the credit crunch, let alone stay in business when their customers were losing their own homes or locking their credit cards up in a safe out of fear. This is one of those moments where the wingnut/moonbat convergence really shows, when you have nimrods on both ends of the aisle screaming that bankers should have been hung from lampposts as though that would have done anything but turned a Recession into a Depression.
You know what I think a lot of people do not consider about the 2008 economic mess?
They forget it was government banking regulations that allowed the bankers to run wild.
Was that Obama’s fault? Nope. It was the long slow death of things like the Glass-Steagall act all the way through Clinton’s time in office.
I am not up on all of the banking issues, but I think Obama and others tried to put some of that back together with Dodd-Frank. It was voted down.
Was that Obama’s fault?
So to me, people want to fault Obama and the bankers and I understand, but the bankers were allowed by our laws to do what they did.
Who shares more of the blame?
I think Obama realized pissing all over the banks at the time of the crunch might not have been good. So, he tried to get legislation and change. But Obama…with Mitch and others standing in the way couldn’t get it done.
Sadly, Hillary sort of messed up on reinstating Glass-Steagall and that led a lot of Berners to bitch and moan and they are still going on about it all today.
WHitehouse: I don’t see how department can do proper recusal when player was behind curtain.
Barr: I don’t think anything wrong.
Whitehouse; We don’t know that.— emptywheel (@emptywheel) January 15, 2019
re: #371 jaunte
I really don’t get why these folks think banks should have gone under because no “little people” would be hurt by that.
Revenge doesn’t make for clear thinking.
Yes, working the refs is fruitful for conservatives….
re: #486 Myron Falwell
She’s able to hide her racism in a way Steve King can’t.
“Why should we have to hide our racism?” was the question SK was asking
re: #491 jaunte
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re: #493 gwangung
Yes, working the refs is fruitful for conservatives….
And that’s why AOC correctly wants journalism more representative. Too many damn white people think racism is only the Klan or Nazis which is absurd as you know.
I hate how long Barr had to delay answering this question from @amyklobuchar:
“Will the Justice Department jail reporters for doing their jobs?”— Jeff Jarvis (@jeffjarvis) January 15, 2019
Klobuchar: Would it be obstruction of justice “if a president told a witness not to cooperate with an investigation or hinted at a pardon?”
Barr: “I would have to know the specific facts.” #BarrHearing pic.twitter.com/tScLnmI7Wj— Vox (@voxdotcom) January 15, 2019
re: #493 gwangung
Yes, working the refs is fruitful for conservatives….
I kinda understand what they are trying to avoid here:, I am very careful about using the term “racist” because it has become so watered down and is used as a jumping-off point for rants and tirades often ending in “If you are going to call everyone racist who ______________________ then I’m a racist, too!”
re: #494 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
“Why should we have to hide our racism?” was the question SK was asking
King’s just confused because he thought Donny winning meant that the GOP didn’t have to hide behind talking points and keywords anymore, that they could let their freak flag fly because he had and still won the presidency.
Dictatorship Watch:
Klobuchar: Free press. Khashoggi. If you’re confirmed will DOJ jail reporters for doing their jobs?
Barr: I know there are guidelines in place. I can conceive of situations where as a last resort, where news org, run thru red flag, knows they’re putting out stuff that will hurt— emptywheel (@emptywheel) January 15, 2019
re: #489 Targetpractice
Well, considering these hearings are effectively a formality as there’s little chance Barr won’t be confirmed, this is largely a way for them to say that the future top lawman in the country says the law agrees with said wish list.
He doesn’t know what the job entails, or if he can actually enforce any of this stuff without a fuckton of legal challenges, but that’s a minor detail.
re: #500 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I kinda understand what they are trying to avoid here:, I am very careful about using the term “racist” because it has become so watered down and is used as a jumping-off point for rants and tirades often ending in “If you are going to call everyone racist who ______________________ then I’m a racist, too!”
Dude no. I’m sorry but no. When a Congressmsn says he doesn’t get why white supremacy has a bad name, you call it what it is and once again, white people like us and these execs act like racism is only its extreme and violent forms. Something like not taking someone seriously because they have an ethnic sounding name is racist. It’s not violent like a Klan rally or Nazi but it does keep PoC treated less than.
re: #502 jaunte
Dictatorship Watch:
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So, I guess among the things he doesn’t know about, we can add NYT v. US and the significance of the Pentagon Papers.
re: #502 jaunte
Dictatorship Watch:
Barr is setting things up for a competent future GOP AG to do all this in the future.
re: #505 HappyWarrior
Dude no. I’m sorry but no. When a Congressmsn says he doesn’t get why white supremacy has a bad name, you call it what it is and once again, white people like us and these execs act like racism is only its extreme and violent forms. Something like not taking someone seriously because they have an ethnic sounding name is racist. It’s not violent like a Klan rally or Nazi but it does keep PoC treated less than.
I understand your points, I was just trying to get my head around the network’s decision to avoid using that term undiluted. They can use “white supremacy” in quotes, though
The Great Molasses Flood of 1919 in Boston resulted in a lawsuit that used expert witnesses for the first time, and was the catalyst for new regulations governing architects and engineers.https://t.co/IEMIEyccUY
— NPR (@NPR) January 15, 2019
Hmmm
JUST IN: Mueller has requested another delay in Rick Gates’ sentencing. “Defendant Gates continues to cooperate with respect to several ongoing investigations, and accordingly the parties do not believe it is appropriate to commence the sentencing process at this time.” pic.twitter.com/zVWeTws6Zn
— Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) January 15, 2019
re: #499 jaunte
“I can’t respond to a hypothetical.”
OK, if President DJT advised former campaign manager he would pardon him no matter what, would that be…
“Whoa, whoa, you’re getting awfully specific and partisan here!”
re: #508 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I understand your points, I was just trying to get my head around the network’s decision to avoid using that term undiluted. They can use “white supremacy” in quotes, though
I just think too many white people think because something isn’t wearing a Klan hood or swastika that it can’t be racist and it just shows a cluelessness. There’s a story that a Clinton supporter in SC shared about talking with a Sanders supporter on the phone trying to get her to vote for Bernie. FInally the guy paused and said “Well you know Senator Sanders is for welfare.” Is that the same as the Klan advocating that black people are an inferior race or the Nazis advocating and then commtiting genocide? No, but it does suggest that black people are all a certain way. The reason why racist or racism may have lost some of its meaning is because white people like us insist we can’t be racist because most of us aren’t the worst of what racism can be.
re: #148 goddamnedfrank
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More than anything, those poll numbers show that not enough people know who she is at this time. But as for her message? Well…
Oh? What’s that?
The majority of Americans respect when you break down reasonable policy proposals that are designed to combat runaway income inequality and help fund priorities they value most?
We can win public sentiment, stand our ground, & not be scared by GOP information. https://t.co/40KHKwt077— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) January 15, 2019
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- HappyWarrior Jan 15, 2019 • 10:08:21am
re: #513 Interesting Times
More than anything, those poll numbers show that not enough people know who she is at this time. But as for her message? Well…
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And you know what, I think she’s okay with that. She knows if her goals are to be accomplished, she needs more than just herself and even the people who support her. That along to me shows she’s more politically mature than Sanders is.
re: #511 Sir John Barron
“I can’t respond to a hypothetical.”
OK, if President DJT advised former campaign manager he would pardon him no matter what, would that be…
“Whoa, whoa, you’re getting awfully specific and partisan here!”
“How could I know you can’t pardon people charged with state crimes? Silly me!”
I hope that no Democrat votes for this joker. (Not including Manchin in this).
What Barr has said:
1) More Clinton probes needed
2) Uranium One more worthy of probe than collusion
3) Comey firing AOK
4) Mueller team’s donations too left-leaning
5) OK for presidents to request specific investigations
6) Mueller’s obstruction probe “fatally misconceived”— Aaron Blake (@AaronBlake) January 15, 2019
re: #518 Patricia Kayden
I hope that no Democrat votes for this joker. (Not including Manchin in this).
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Well if he feels that way, that’s his opinion but he’s obviously too biased to be AG.
re: #466 plansbandc
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Those first time hearing videos get me every time.
I bet in another few years with micro electronics and sound technology they can replace the whole inner ear.
re: #512 HappyWarrior
The reason why racist or racism may have lost some of its meaning is because white people like us insist we can’t be racist because most of us aren’t the worst of what racism can be.
and that is part of the problem, it has gone from being a descriptive term to a buzzword and red flag. There are enough ways to describe it without using the term, and calling someone a “white supremacist” is pretty clear and telling, and that is what Steven King is.
This is the news photo that would make a returning time traveler realize they fucked something up pic.twitter.com/DwKe35Uicm
— Jess Dweck (@TheDweck) January 15, 2019
re: #521 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
and that is part of the problem, it has gone from being a descriptive term to a buzzword and red flag. There are enough ways to describe it without using the term, and calling someone a “white supremacist” is pretty clear and telling, and that is what Steven King is.
But except most of them when someone is called out for being racist, they’re not called white supremacists. People think being called racist means people are calling them white supremacists. I just don’t think you see what I mean. That the problems with how the races are construed isn’t on PoC, it’s on white people for thinking that racism is only Bull Connor’s hoses and not something more universal that can and does happen on a far more frequent basis because we’re afraid to admit that we may have racial prejudices.
And yes Steve King certainly is a white supremacist by any reasonable definition of the word. Sorry this whole thing reminds me when Bernie said the people who didn’t vote for Abrams or Gillum in Georgia and Florida that felt uncomfortable voting for them because they were black weren’t necessarily racist. That is racist. If you feel someone can’t be your governor because of their skin color, you’re being a racist. It’s not as in your face as campaigning for outright white supremacists like King has but it is a form of racism and I have no problem with it being called as such and if other white people are uncomfortable with that, that’s on them ot PoC because PoC vote for white candidates all the time without objecting to their skin color. In fact, everyone forgets that Clinton actually did better among black voters for a while in the 2008 primary and the reason why Michael Steele lost his run for the Senate in Maryland against Ben Cardin, a white Democrat is because of black voters.
re: #510 Myron Falwell
Hmmm
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If I were Paul Manafort (and others) I would be very very concerned about Gates continuing to talk and cooperate with Mueller.
I’m thinking some of the things Cohen has told Mueller are coming into alignment with Gates now.
re: #523 HappyWarrior
But except most of them when someone is called out for being racist, they’re not called white supremacists. People think being called racist means people are calling them white supremacists. I just don’t think you see what I mean. That the problems with how the races are construed isn’t on PoC, it’s on white people for thinking that racism is only Bull Connor’s hoses and not something more universal that can and does happen on a far more frequent basis because we’re afraid to admit that we may have racial prejudices.
it becomes an issue when people believe that race should be used as a reason to deny people basic rights or to favor others.
re: #98 Myron Falwell
Yeah, but President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho was smart enough to know that he wasn’t the smartest guy and to ask for advice.
TRUMP MAKES THE GUY FROM IDIOCRACY LOOK LIKE A FUCKING GENIUS.
re: #514 Sir John Barron
Oh, Donnie didn’t invite the Dem leadership?
Surprised face….
Because the WH’s new tactic seems to be to try to peel off Dem votes so that they can insist that there is “bipartisan” support for wall funding and that the DNC leadership is responsible for the shutdown by withholding such.
re: #527 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
it becomes an issue when people believe that race should be used as a reason to deny people basic rights or to favor others.
Which as I am saying doesn’t always take the form of someone wearing a Klan hood or Swastika arm band. A lot of what people get pissed about is exactly waht you’re talking about. Whether it’s black people being assumed to be criminals or welfare freeloaders, Latinos asumed to be rapists or “Taking our jobs”, Arabs or Muslims of any kind assumed to be terrorists or unwilling to assimilate, etc. King acts the part of a white supremacist and racist when he explicitly says he doesn’t get why white supremacy is a bad thing. Well Steve, we fought a World War to stop one such group.
re: #516 HappyWarrior
And you know what, I think she’s okay with that. She knows if her goals are to be accomplished, she needs more than just herself and even the people who support her. That along to me shows she’s more politically mature than Sanders is.
Alexandria may be opening up for the middle ground Democrats to be a little more bold about taxation. This is a good thing.
The commander of Kurdish led-forces in Syria tells @NBCNews he sent a delegation to Moscow about a week after Trump’s announcement. “I can assure you Russia is happy to fill the void left by the American military withdrawal,” he said.
— Richard Engel (@RichardEngel) January 15, 2019
re: #531 ObserverArt
Alexandria may be opening up for the middle ground Democrats to be a little more bold about taxation. This is a good thing.
Absolutely. And I was glad Julian Castro the other day pointed out that our economy didn’t go to hell when we had the rates at 90%. Now I don’t know if changing the rate will help us 100% but it might be a start. What I think we need and I think Alexandria will agree is a change of discussion about government services. We need to get our fellow citizens to realize things like subsidies to help make post secondary education more affordable, more government health care, etc are no different from the Social Security and Medicare that many GOP voters receive and have no problem with.
re: #528 Sufficient unto the day…
Yeah, but President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho was smart enough to know that he wasn’t the smartest guy and to ask for advice.
TRUMP MAKES THE GUY FROM IDIOCRACY LOOK LIKE A FUCKING GENIUS.
re: #456 Targetpractice
Donny and Faux insist Democrats are “breaking,” yet they can’t seem to find any Democrats who are prepared to “break” with the party leadership to negotiate with him.
Not negotiate, capitulate. He is not willing to budge off what he “wants”, hell he even raised how much he wants. That’s not negotiating, that’s demanding capitulation.
The problem is government services has become something “they” receive versus “us.” And you know what, I blame that mentality entirely on the right that emerged in the time of Goldwater. Veterans who had benefited from the GI Bill were told that they were somehow different than poor people in the cities receiving welfare.
re: #537 Eventual Carrion
Not negotiate, capitulate. He is not willing to budge off what he “wants”, hell he even raised how much he wants. That’s not negotiating, that’s demanding capitulation.
Trump thinks extortion and coersion are negotiation.
He thinks he can con Democrats into giving him what he wants.
That isn’t how any of this works, and Trump doesn’t seem to know or care.
Then again, the GOP long con is to destroy functioning govt and make govt so small it fits up in the lady naughty bits (hmmm… shows promise as a band name) and roll back Roe, Griswold, civil/voting rights, etc., all while delivering more tax cuts to millionaires while millions lose the safety net and core govt functionality - like roads, infrastructure, etc.
re: #529 Targetpractice
Because the WH’s new tactic seems to be to try to peel off Dem votes so that they can insist that there is “bipartisan” support for wall funding and that the DNC leadership is responsible for the shutdown by withholding such.
Does anyone know what exactly Donnie is willing to “give” in this so-called “compromise” to get a “deal”?
This year, our cartoonists drew the President in grotesque fashion, or as creepily infantile; once, he was depicted as a literal dumpster fire: https://t.co/JsfDJKRCry pic.twitter.com/PX5VDpjOLz
— The New Yorker (@NewYorker) December 23, 2018
I think that Garry Trudeau’s Doonesbury should just have Trump as a dumpster on fire from now on, rather than the wildly
disheveled hairpiece…
re: #532 FormerDirtDart ????
Gee, I’m having so much trouble feeling any sort of sympathy for Bolton, I wonder why…
re: #540 Sir John Barron
Does anyone know what exactly Donnie is willing to “give” in this so-called “compromise” to get a “deal”?
He has no plan, just to continue stomping his feet and bellyache until Pelosi does an about-face which will never happen.
re: #540 Sir John Barron
Does anyone know what exactly Donnie is willing to “give” in this so-called “compromise” to get a “deal”?
Opening the gov’t. That’s the only thing he’s prepared to “give” because it’s the only thing that Faux isn’t threatening to roast him for. If anything, he and they think the DNC should beg him for the pleasure of doing that much.
re: #545 Targetpractice
Opening the gov’t. That’s the only thing he’s prepared to “give” because it’s the only thing that Faux isn’t threatening to roast him for. If anything, he and they think the DNC should beg him for the pleasure of doing that much.
Hopefully some of his party will soon be able to talk him off the ledge.
But I don’t feel very good about that. His newest bestest golf buddy Lindsay tried.
re: #546 Sir John Barron
Hopefully some of his party will soon be able to talk him off the ledge.
But I don’t feel very good about that. His newest bestest golf buddy Lindsay tried.
They’re all going down with the ship.
I expect the polls to get much more worse and damaging with each passing week until the GOP senate finally caves. But they played themselves and it will be too late to save their own hides.
re: #502 jaunte
Dictatorship Watch:
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2nd amendment, iron clad. 1st amendment, a suggestion.
re: #518 Patricia Kayden
I hope that no Democrat votes for this joker. (Not including Manchin in this).
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Manchin? Stab his own party in the back? GET OUTTA HERE WITH THAT CRAZY TALK!!!!
re: #544 Myron Falwell
He has no plan, just to continue stomping his feet and bellyache until Pelosi does an about-face which will never happen.
I think they are counting on some crime, terrorism, gang or drug-related incident that can be framed as “this would not have happened if we had THE WALL in place.” and the Dems will back down.
They need a Guillermo Hortez, so to speak.
Poll Shows Increasing Number Of Voters Blame Founding Fathers For Starting America https://t.co/Xv2jr2SyGp pic.twitter.com/9BrC4Q6sPG
— The Onion (@TheOnion) January 15, 2019
re: #547 Myron Falwell
They’re all going down with the ship.
I expect the polls to get much more worse and damaging with each passing week until the GOP senate finally caves. But they played themselves and it will be too late to save their own hides.
Polls already starting to show that Donny has crashed through that 40% floor he enjoyed and begun eating into his base’s support. At this point, what will probably cause the fecal matters to hit the rotary impeller is the IRS announcing that tax refunds cannot be processed until the shutdown is ended.
re: #550 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I think they are counting on some crime, terrorism, gang or drug-related incident that can be framed as “this would not have happened if we had THE WALL in place.” and the Dems will back down.
They need a Guillermo Hortez, so to speak.
It’s a bold move, Cotton, let’s see if it pays off.
re: #553 Targetpractice
Polls already starting to show that Donny has crashed through that 40% floor he enjoyed and begun eating into his base’s support. At this point, what will probably cause the fecal matters to hit the rotary impeller is the IRS announcing that tax refunds cannot be processed until the shutdown is ended.
That’s what people who hate on the IRS don’t get. Yeah the IRS can be a pain in the ass but they also stuff like that.
re: #537 Eventual Carrion
Not negotiate, capitulate. He is not willing to budge off what he “wants”, hell he even raised how much he wants. That’s not negotiating, that’s demanding capitulation.
That is why he says it all can be done in 5 minutes. It doesn’t take much time to give in to the Emperors demand.
UK PM Theresa May is wrapping up the Brexit debate for the Government, before the votes on amendments and main motion.
Meanwhile, here is a pretty powerful speech from today’s debate.
Blame us. Blame Westminster. Do not blame Brussels for our own country’s mistakes and do not be angry at us for telling you the truth. Be angry at the chancers who sold you a lie.
In full: Why I’m voting against Brexit today and calling for a #PeoplesVotepic.twitter.com/hTIwXScWhv— David Lammy (@DavidLammy) January 15, 2019
Ted Koppel is no perfect jewel, but he had a good opinion piece in WaPo today:
re: #553 Targetpractice
Polls already starting to show that Donny has crashed through that 40% floor he enjoyed and begun eating into his base’s support. At this point, what will probably cause the fecal matters to hit the rotary impeller is the IRS announcing that tax refunds cannot be processed until the shutdown is ended.
Yeah, if they were hoping for a domestic incident to shore up support for the wall, the damage they’re inflicting on themselves in the process is going to make it a zero-sum game at best. At worst, no one outside his tattered base will buy it.
Mitch using “immoral” in an ad hominem attack on the Democrats yesterday is such an example. They’re going into the well too many times and it’s starting to run dry.
re: #557 Alephnaught
BBC World News is carrying the domestic BBC coverage to the US right now. Fascinating stuff. I’d say I don’t envy you having to be governed by such an incompetent lot, but…
Just reading the Guardian live blog on the Brexit debate in Westminster. The government really is making it up as they go along.
Sir Edward Leigh intervenes. He says MPs are worried about the backstop. Will the government support his amendment?
May says the government is not able to support this amendment. But she praises Leigh for the work he has done on this issue and says the government is willing to look at alternative, “creative solutions” to this problem. She suggests a second Leigh amendment on the order paper, which is not being put to a vote tonight (amendment r) could provide a guide to the way forward.
re: #554 Myron Falwell
It’s a bold move, Cotton, let’s see if it pays off.
they have little to lose. they can keep this up indefinitely and it is just a matter of time until they can come up with an incident to frame that way
re: #528 Sufficient unto the day…
Yeah, but President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho was smart enough to know that he wasn’t the smartest guy and to ask for advice.
TRUMP MAKES THE GUY FROM IDIOCRACY LOOK LIKE A FUCKING GENIUS.
And Bill Barr is no Attorney General Funbags, either.
Of course, I’m prejudiced, since I’ve been in love with Sara Rue for many years….
re: #563 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
they have little to lose. they can keep this up indefinitely and it is just a matter of time until they can come up with an incident to frame that way
The problem is that the longer this goes on, the larger the incident has to be to sway public opinion enough in their favor. A month ago, it might have been another innocent girl being shot on a pier in CA. Now? Now it would damn near require a night club shooting where the shooter could be confirmed as an “illegal” to have any real hope of giving the GOP the “moral” argument.
No amendments! All the MPs moving amendments have pulled them, meaning it’s just a vote on the main motion, so the results are expected around 7.30 GMT.
EDIT: There’s actually a vote on one of the amendments, because of weird Parliamentary stuff.
re: #567 Alephnaught
No amendments! All the MPs moving amendments have pulled them, meaning it’s just a vote on the main motion, so the results are expected around 7.30 GMT.
That clunk you just heard was May shitting a brick.
re: #566 Targetpractice
The problem is that the longer this goes on, the larger the incident has to be to sway public opinion enough in their favor. A month ago, it might have been another innocent girl being shot on a pier in CA. Now? Now it would damn near require a night club shooting where the shooter could be confirmed as an “illegal” to have any real hope of giving the GOP the “moral” argument.
they just have to sway enough dems to get them a majority in the house and a filibuster-proof edge in the senate
re: #569 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
they just have to sway enough dems to get them a majority in the house and a filibuster-proof edge in the senate
Then that’s an even taller order, because this has become less about public opinion to them and more about preventing Trump from using such extortion methods to extract further demands in the future.
re: #569 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
they just have to sway enough dems to get them a majority in the house and a filibuster-proof edge in the senate
To get Democrat support, they’ll need another 9/11.
And even then, since the GOP is now shouldering the vast majority of the blame for the shutdown, they’d have to have someone who is capable of unifying the country and to rally around.
And with Trump in charge? That ain’t happening.
In the end, the UK is going for the hard landing.
Their world will not end, but a lot of unnecessary confusion will follow, and the UK will not be an attraction for foreign companies like it has been for years.
This is a “win” for the nationalists… but like the know-nothings here, they will do anything to “own the libs”, or in their parlance, own the internationalists.
Since the UK needs to import a significant fraction of their food, the EU will of course want them as customers so all the necessary treaties will be worked out… over time.
More damaging to the UK is that Trump is Putin’s puppet.
re: #356 Citizen K
The continued effort to denigrate Obama as somehow the super-worst President ever after the fact, not just by the GOP but lefter-than-thou folks is fucking exhausting.
Now, the 2020 field must contend with an uncomfortable question...
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re: #566 Targetpractice
The problem is that the longer this goes on, the larger the incident has to be to sway public opinion enough in their favor. A month ago, it might have been another innocent girl being shot on a pier in CA. Now? Now it would damn near require a night club shooting where the shooter could be confirmed as an “illegal” to have any real hope of giving the GOP the “moral” argument.
I’m just worried that because the hostages are almost literally being starved to death and the party in the WH doesn’t care that the hostages are being starved to death, will mean the Dems will have to offer up a token $$ to prevent the hostages from starving to death.
This is the problem with a psychopath in the WH.
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re: #568 Targetpractice
That clunk you just heard was May shitting a brick.
I noted there’s speculation on the Guardian live blog that Corbyn pulled his amendment in order to speed up the process in order to get the main result in the first editions of the morning newspapers.
Listening to some sports radio, I’m giving up on the Fast Food Fest Trump put on as a tool to bash Trump. It is a losing battle in my eyes. I think it is going to come off as sour grapes from Trump haters and the media will sell it that way.
I am hearing many of the teams going to the White House in the past had no buffets/dinners, whatever you want to call it.
So, Trump actually is seen as going out of his way. Other presidents were “cheapskates.”
I’m dropping it. I think there are much bigger issues. I’m not going to give Trump and wingnuts the ammo.
re: #570 Targetpractice
Then that’s an even taller order, because this has become less about public opinion to them and more about preventing Trump from using such extortion methods to extract further demands in the future.
I have never lost my faith in the Dems ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
And ever since 2016, I can only see the worst-case scenarios unfolding.
I still think that things have to get worse before they can start getting better and they still haven’t gotten worse enough yet to turn things around.
see? There’s still an optimist in there, looking for that pony buried in that pile of horse manure…
re: #578 ObserverArt
Listening to some sports radio, I’m giving up on the Fast Food Fest Trump put on as a tool to bash Trump. It is a losing battle in my eyes. I think it is going to come off as sour grapes from Trump haters and the media will sell it that way.
I am hearing many of the teams going to the White House in the past had no buffets/dinners, whatever you want to call it.
So, Trump actually is seen as going out of his way. Other presidents were “cheapskates.”
I’m dropping it. I think there are much bigger issues. I’m not going to give Trump and wingnuts the ammo.
Yeah it’s unimportant in the grander scheme of things. He’s still a cheap ass tho:
re: #579 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I have never lost my faith in the Dems ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
And ever since 2016, I can only see the worst-case scenarios unfolding.
I still think that things have to get worse before they can start getting better and they still haven’t gotten worse enough yet to turn things around.
see? There’s still an optimist in there, looking for that pony buried in that pile of horse manure…
The problem is that, from your perspective, you don’t really know what the bottom is. Until humans are no longer on the planet, it can always get worse.
re: #579 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I have never lost my faith in the Dems ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
And ever since 2016, I can only see the worst-case scenarios unfolding.
I still think that things have to get worse before they can start getting better and they still haven’t gotten worse enough yet to turn things around.
see? There’s still an optimist in there, looking for that pony buried in that pile of horse manure…
There’s one big difference this time. And that’s Pelosi is back in the speaker chair and isn’t backing down.
As was noted before, she sacrificed her speakership and the careers of others to get the ACA passed. She’s further emboldened by the GOP senate acting in a purely defensive manner. She’s making sure Sen. Schumer holds firm and will not yield, which is pretty remarkable for someone without much, if any, leverage.
It’s pretty simple to gauge who’s winning and losing in this p***ing match, and that’s what gives me hope. I’m more annoyed than fearful, as the GOP just doesn’t want to do the obvious and admit defeat.
re: #557 Alephnaught
Jeremy Corbyn says he has tabled a motion of no confidence in the government and is pleased it will be voted tomorrow
— Sam Coates Times (@SamCoatesTimes) January 15, 2019
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What Is ‘Medicare for All’? Your Questions Answered Air, water, food, shelter, and medicine is required for every person. Why is the "all in" risk pool so hard to understand or apply? Because of profits. The sad thing is there is money to be made legit here. ...
Unshaken Defiance
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Comments: 0: 0- Former National Enquirer Reporters Blast David PeckerIt seems there is honor amongst thieves, ethics amongst tabloid reporters. Tony Brenna, an old hand at the National Enquirer, had this to say about the current situation (via Facebook): "Having worked on and off for the National Enquirer for ...
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Killing Ourselves Slowly-Insects Are Dying Off — Alarmingly Fast We are ignoring the warnings. serious warnings. Bees, butterflies, moths, dung beetles, and crickets are all declining Butterflies and moths, known as the Lepidoptera order, are some of the hardest hit: 53 percent of Lepidoptera have seen declining population ... Unshaken Defiance
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Trump Supporter Attacks BBC Cameraman at El Paso Rally The climate of public discourse. A supporter of US President Donald Trump has attacked a BBC cameraman at a campaign rally in El Paso, Texas. Sporting a Make America Great Again cap, the man shoved and swore at the ... Unshaken Defiance
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Poor, Elderly and Too Frail to Escape: Paradise Fire Killed the Most Vulnerable Residents - Los Angeles Times We can do far better by our vulnerable citizens. This is an indictment of a towns evacuation plan that was wildly inadequate. Dorothy Mack had crippling back pain and deteriorating eyesight. Helen Pace used a walker and could barely ... Unshaken Defiance
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The Good Fight’s Animated Guide to Impeachment How's impeachment work? This tongue-in-cheek animated video from The Good Fight, created by Jonathan Coulton and appearing at the end of Season 2, Episode 7 ("Day 450"), will tell you everything that you need to know. Stream all-new episodes ...
Thanos
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Blocked Venezuela Bridge Was Never Opened in First PlaceSeveral days ago, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo retweeted a photograph that purported to show how Venezuela's president Nicolás Maduro had blocked a bridge with Colombia to prevent relief supplies from entering his country. In fact, the bridge, which was ...
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Did Trump Order the Nsa to Hack Bezos? Was It Saudis? Russians? OK, this has quickly gone from an examples of "Damn, the National Enquirer owner is really a piece of shit," to ... DID TRUMP WEAPONIZE SPY AGENCIES TO SILENCE HIS CRITICS? Washington Posts @RoigFranzia says Bezos' team thinks it's ... Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)
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Basically, Carrier Strike Group 4 Is Jamming GPS Across U.S. Southeast Coast - the AviationistThe article goes on to describe how a pilot in a plane severely affected plane can radio a phrase on emergency channels to have the jamming shut off. But why so close to the coast? Some aircraft react very badly ... Unshaken Defiance
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Why Trump Will Never Get His Border Wall - the Atlantic Here is the final, insurmountable barrier to Trump’s wall here: money. The government has already paid nearly $1 million an acre for that six-acre plot in the Rio Grande Valley, potentially setting a precedent. If the Trump administration seized ... Unshaken Defiance
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- 20 Things I Don’t Know About Youblog.timesunion.com Who is the average blog reader? More importantly, who is the average Hoffman Files reader? What does this individual look like? Are they predominantly female or male? Are there certain ages of individuals who favor perusing the blog pages? ...
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Lower Prescription Drug Prices Lure Americans to Mexico to Buy Meds "At that point I started tearing up. I could not believe how inexpensive it was and how easy it was," Greenseid says. "I said to [the pharmacist], 'Do you have any idea what it's like to get insulin in ... Thanos
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California Gov. Gavin Newsom to Pull National Guard From Border With Mexico - Los Angeles Times Love the new Gov. In released excerpts of his speech, Newsom says he is giving the National Guard a new mission so that troops would not take part in the White House’s “political theater” and instead “refocus on the ... Unshaken Defiance
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It’s a Miracle! …Or Is It? SOURCES ARE BELOW:The charity I strongly endorse is called ASRI. It’s a hospital in Borneo that provides affordable health care to villages on the edge of a national park in return for a pledge not to cut down trees, ... Thanos
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Drug Companies Are Sitting on Generics—43% of Recently Approved Aren’t for Sale Posting for that friend who loves to tell me that Trump and capitalism will find a way to produce needed drugs and make them cheaper... There are huge markets going untapped, and stagnant pools of decades old capital out ... Thanos
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I Gotta Crow Here’s a link to the ‘joint’ meet up post. We faced each race, day by day, (hopefully) forgetting yesterday, and not hurting our chances for tomorrow. In between races, while Klys and family toured the parks, I took it ...
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Comments: 0: 0- Facebook Fights Multibillion-Dollar Privacy Class Action SAN FRANCISCO (CN) – A federal judge on Friday rejected Facebook’s argument that it cannot be sued for letting third parties, such as Cambridge Analytica, access users’ private data because no “real world” harm has resulted from the conduct. ... Thanos
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The Specials - Vote for Me (Live - the One Show) (2019) (HD) 1979 to 2019... Celebrating 40 years of what is arguably one of the most important and influential music genres/ movements ever to influence the British music scene in it's history... 2 Tone... which for many became much more than ... Thanos
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Vampire Weekend - Harmony Hall (Official Audio) Harmony Hall/2021 available everywhere now: smarturl.it Lyrics: We took a vow in summertimeNow we find ourselves in late December I believe that New Year’s EveWill be the perfect timeFor their great surrender But they don’t remember Anger wants a ... Thanos
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Feel It Still - Portugal the Man (’60s ‘Mr. Postman’ Style Cover) Ft. Joey, Adanna, Nina Ann Get the song: smarturl.it | Subscribe: bit.ly 2019 World Tour Tix: pmjtour.com | Our first video of 2019 stars Joey Cook, Adanna Duru & Nina Ann (in her PMJ debut!) in a "Mr. Postman" inspired take on "Feel It ... Thanos
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