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gocart mozart  Jan 16, 2019 • 7:25:20pm
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gocart mozart  Jan 16, 2019 • 7:30:49pm
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Myron Falwell  Jan 16, 2019 • 7:31:46pm

re: #2 gocart mozart

…and also re:downstairs from:
re: #318 gocart mozart

The way Schatz, Murphy and Schumer are here tonight should lend a lot of hope. They’re simultaneously having fun together on Twitter and at the same time advancing their narrative while giving Cardi B one hell of a signal boost.

As much as it is surprising to see Sen. Schumer have a renewed sense of fortitude, it’s also starting to rub off on his colleagues. Not that Schatz and Murphy weren’t resolute and outspoken before, but together as a group?

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Anymouse ??  Jan 16, 2019 • 7:34:04pm
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Single-handed sailor  Jan 16, 2019 • 7:34:54pm
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Anymouse ??  Jan 16, 2019 • 7:35:58pm

re: #1 gocart mozart

It isn’t Trump. This has been going on in conservatism for decades, with hate radio and FOX News enabled by Reagan ditching the Fairness Doctrine after Nixon couldn’t get GOP TV.

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calochortus  Jan 16, 2019 • 7:36:48pm

Good evening.
Your SF Bay Area weather update: The wind is blowing. Rain is bucketing down. Power is out all over the place (though not here…yet.) Tomorrow is trash pick up so I put the cans out. We live on a rather steep hill, so with the wind and the water pouring down the gutter they won’t stay upright. I’m hoping that a.) most of the contents remain in the cans and b.) things will have calmed down enough to set them upright again before we go to bed so things can be picked up by those garbage trucks with the automated arms. We shall see.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 16, 2019 • 7:42:22pm

re: #6 Anymouse ??

It isn’t Trump. This has been going on in conservatism for decades, with hate radio and FOX News enabled by Reagan ditching the Fairness Doctrine after Nixon couldn’t get GOP TV.

Those were all warm-up acts, Trump was the main event that wound up solidifying the anti-expertise in everything, compounded by his deliberate anti-curiousity.

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retired cynic  Jan 16, 2019 • 7:43:55pm

John Scalzi has a cute blog post about his cat Smudge, and technology. Or something.

whatever.scalzi.com

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Anymouse ??  Jan 16, 2019 • 7:46:57pm
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gocart mozart  Jan 16, 2019 • 7:47:55pm
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ckkatz  Jan 16, 2019 • 7:51:27pm

The discussion in earlier threads about playing at weddings and little daughters, reminded me of this song:

Dance Little Jean

Dance Little Jean (Remastered 2001)

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gocart mozart  Jan 16, 2019 • 7:52:26pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2019 • 7:57:00pm

Did I get this right from the last thread?

We have a witness in a federal investigation that wanted to testify publicly but is getting cold feet because he fears the President of the United States, Donald Trump, might try to have him and/or his family harmed?

Lovely.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 16, 2019 • 7:58:21pm

re: #14 ObserverArt

Did I get this right from the last thread?

We have a witness in a federal investigation that wanted to testify publicly but is getting cold feet because he fears the President of the United States, Donald Trump, might try to have him and/or his family harmed?

Lovely.

Or Vladimir Putin. Or any of a whole bunch of Trump supporters.

Or he’s just making up an excuse.

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teleskiguy  Jan 16, 2019 • 7:58:59pm
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calochortus  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:00:28pm

re: #14 ObserverArt

Did I get this right from the last thread?

We have a witness in a federal investigation that wanted to testify publicly but is getting cold feet because he fears the President of the United States, Donald Trump, might try to have him and/or his family harmed?

Lovely.

Not Trump directly, but some nutcase incited to violence by him.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:01:37pm

Here is Dr. Seuss, from the 1930’s

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Anymouse ??  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:03:34pm
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Myron Falwell  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:03:48pm

re: #15 Anymouse ??

Or Vladimir Putin. Or any of a whole bunch of Trump supporters.

Or he’s just making up an excuse.

Trump threatened Michael Cohen’s father-in-law on live TV last Saturday. I don’t think he making this up, especially given how Russians have dealt with dissidents.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:06:58pm

Mark Takano (D-CA41) puts up an advert against the McConnell shutdown.

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:07:24pm

re: #15 Anymouse ??

Or Vladimir Putin. Or any of a whole bunch of Trump supporters.

Or he’s just making up an excuse.

I’ve run those scenarios too.

All involved are slicksters that will do anything to protect one another.

But Mikey might not come out well if he is just making excuses. He’s fucking with congress on something he may have already agreed too.

It’s always something.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:09:00pm
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Myron Falwell  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:10:05pm

re: #10 Anymouse ??

“This is always how Rudy gets ahead of news. He goes on cable tv, does a wild interview, and shares stuff that appears to be gaffe when it’s not. He did the same thing with the Stormy Daniels payments last year. It’s all intentional.”

This isn’t one bit surprising, and it’s obviously intentional red meat for the small base. But if you aren’t of the red meat crowd, he looks like is a crazy old man.

I guess there’s some merit to playing nothing but the good time oldies to keep the true believers in line, but it still looks like one of the most inefficient strategies possible.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:12:31pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:14:36pm

Genetic sequencing? WTF.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:15:24pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

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Genetic sequencing? WTF.

Is that why you’re an ally of Victor Orban?

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calochortus  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:15:45pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

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Genetic sequencing? WTF.

My exact thought.

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teleskiguy  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:16:34pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

He’s a conman.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:16:41pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:16:44pm

The Rage Furby has reactivated his Facebook account.

facebook.com

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:17:38pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

The Rage Furby has reactivated his Facebook account.

facebook.com

Agh!

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Myron Falwell  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:18:54pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

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Genetic sequencing? WTF.

He would have been better off saying nothing than saying something so bafflingly stupid.

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retired cynic  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:21:44pm

re: #33 Myron Falwell

Unless RF is acting as a lobbyist for a gene sequencing company. gag

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:24:20pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

Charles, I click on the Facebook link and I get this:

Sorry, this content isn’t available right now

The link you followed may have expired, or the page may only be visible to an audience you’re not in.

Go back to the previous page * Go to News Feed * Visit our Help Center.

Maybe he blocked me before…

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Myron Falwell  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:24:44pm

re: #34 retired cynic

Unless RF is acting as a lobbyist for a gene sequencing company. gag

I just remembered RF showed off his clubbed feet a few years ago in a Facebook photo, that might be what he was referring to.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:25:46pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

Genetic sequencing? WTF.

Conservatives have been trying to get eugenicists into positions of power in the government for decades. This is nothing new, other than Rage Furby being involved. A racist congressman talking about him in terms of genetics is referring to eugenics, and I imagine Rage Furby has connexions for that.

A genetic scientist became aware of Stormfront when they were promoting Trump, and after reading them, urged other geneticists to safeguard their work to preserve it from the incoming conservative government when he was elected.

Will the Alt-Right Promote a New Kind of Racist Genetics (Atlantic, Dec 29, 2016).

Long thread on conservatives associated with eugenicists for decades.

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teleskiguy  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:25:55pm

re: #35 Joe Bacon ??

I can see it. This was his last post.

Facebook Post

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ObserverArt  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:28:43pm

Genetic sequencing to find better ways to prove race and to drill down to the purest form of supremacy through science.

Hello, I’m Doctor Charles C. Johnson.

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Targetpractice  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:29:49pm

re: #16 teleskiguy

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We’re going Full Iran-Contra: “Yeah, everybody around him was a corrupt scumbag, but he was totally in the dark!”

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Anymouse ??  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:30:04pm

re: #35 Joe Bacon ??

Works for me (offering to allow me to sign up for Facebook to see Rage Furby’s posts).

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:30:52pm
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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:34:25pm

re: #38 teleskiguy

I can see it. This was his last post.

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It’s showing with the same message as I posted before. So I guess Ginger Snapped blocked me.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:35:03pm

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:36:47pm

re: #44 Myron Falwell

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That ain’t the Master Race, it’s the MASTURBATOR RACE!

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:36:53pm
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Anymouse ??  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:37:28pm

re: #40 Targetpractice

We’re going Full Iran-Contra: “Yeah, everybody around him was a corrupt scumbag, but he was totally in the dark!”

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Anymouse ??  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:38:45pm

re: #43 Joe Bacon ??

It’s showing with the same message as I posted before. So I guess Ginger Snapped blocked me.

It was his final post Sept. 11, 2018.

I am deleting my Facebook tomorrow. No deactivation. Just pure deletion. Why am I deleting it? Frankly because I think social media is making the world a bad place and I don’t want to participate anymore.

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teleskiguy  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:40:33pm

Y’all think I’m crazy?!?

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retired cynic  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:41:52pm

re: #49 teleskiguy

eeeeeeeeeeee

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Anymouse ??  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:42:18pm

re: #49 teleskiguy

Y’all think I’m crazy?!?

He’s paragliding with skis on. No where in that clip did the skis touch snow. [/pedant]

Yes, he’s crazy. There are degrees of it.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:48:52pm

Jose Andres has gotten smore more traction recenty in his advocacy for the Puerto Rican people. Jose has more greatness in his little pinkie than the whole Trump administration.

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teleskiguy  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:52:02pm

re: #50 retired cynic

eeeeeeeeeeee

Rail sliding a haul rope!

Slide a chair lift cable SpeedRiding

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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:52:28pm

re: #52 BlueSpotinAL

Jose Andres has gotten smore more traction recenty in his advocacy for the Puerto Rican people. Jose has more greatness in his little pinkie than the whole Trump administration.

He is such an awesome guy. His food is amazing but his character is even more.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:53:36pm
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Myron Falwell  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:54:08pm

re: #38 teleskiguy

Why, though? Facebook wasn’t/isn’t ever going to permaban RF, and he has no other reliable means for online attention.

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retired cynic  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:54:42pm

re: #53 teleskiguy

Rail sliding a haul rope!

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Video

nonononononononononononono o nononononononono

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Charles Johnson  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:55:19pm

Apparently LGF has become invisible.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:55:19pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:56:39pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

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Sure.

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Targetpractice  Jan 16, 2019 • 8:59:01pm

re: #59 Single-handed sailor

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I’m not sure whether we should read that as his continuing the “collusion is not a crime” bit or upgrading to “collusion is a crime, but Trump was unaware of it!”

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Myron Falwell  Jan 16, 2019 • 9:06:40pm

That face…

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Targetpractice  Jan 16, 2019 • 9:07:49pm

re: #62 Myron Falwell

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That face…

“That fart was wet!”

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teleskiguy  Jan 16, 2019 • 9:07:51pm

Mental Health Break.

Once In A Lifetime

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TedStriker  Jan 16, 2019 • 9:08:08pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

Apparently LGF has become invisible.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 16, 2019 • 9:09:27pm

re: #61 Targetpractice

I’m not sure whether we should read that as his continuing the “collusion is not a crime” bit or upgrading to “collusion is a crime, but Trump was unaware of it!”

I think they just promoted that latter bit to the big leagues tonight.

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teleskiguy  Jan 16, 2019 • 9:09:43pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

It’s probably because the word ‘fuck’ shows up too often in the comments section. Or some such shit.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 16, 2019 • 9:10:02pm

News from Louisville (KY): they are renaming the airport Louisville Muhammad Ali International Airport.

courier-journal.com

This is its second renaming in my memory. First, Standiford, then Louisville International Airport after UPS made it one of their distribution hubs, and now Ali Airport.

The Standiford name gave the airport its airport code SDF. That will not change.

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TedStriker  Jan 16, 2019 • 9:12:19pm

re: #68 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

News from Louisville (KY): they are renaming the airport Louisville Muhammad Ali International Airport.

courier-journal.com

This is its second renaming in my memory. First, Standiford, then Louisville International Airport after UPS made it one of their distribution hubs, and now Ali Airport.

The Standiford name gave the airport its airport code SDF. That will not change.

I think that will guarantee Trump will never fly in to Louisville…

Frankly, I’m surprised it hadn’t been done already; Ali’s name is everywhere in Louisville, as it should be.

Also, airport codes don’t often change in any case; ours here in Nashville has been BNA since the 1930s (Berry Field NAshville). Any airport code change would be a major pain in the ass to get it through the FAA, the ICAO, and the airlines.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 16, 2019 • 9:13:07pm

re: #53 teleskiguy

Rail sliding a haul rope!

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Video

Whaaa da fuq? Crazy shit right there

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teleskiguy  Jan 16, 2019 • 9:13:23pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 16, 2019 • 9:13:37pm

re: #63 Targetpractice

“That fart was wet!”

“Here I sit, brokenhearted….”

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 16, 2019 • 9:16:32pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

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Genetic sequencing? WTF.

Makes perfect sense. Remember, Chuck had a fixation with proving that Chelsea Clinton’s actual father was Webster Hubbell, and made claims about having obtained her DNA. Also remember that his initial backer in Got News was Joel S. Gilbert, who made the film Dreams From My Real Father, promoting the theory that Barack Obama was actually Frank Marshall Davis’ son.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 16, 2019 • 9:16:59pm

Stand by, Republicans …

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Myron Falwell  Jan 16, 2019 • 9:23:05pm

It’s almost impossible to satirize the fucking insane

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 16, 2019 • 9:28:34pm

Speaking of first jobs:

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TedStriker  Jan 16, 2019 • 9:29:42pm

re: #76 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Speaking of first jobs:

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Belafon  Jan 16, 2019 • 9:29:48pm

re: #74 Anymouse ??

Stand by, Republicans …

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Say what you will, but Democrats are willing to learn. And when you see a master, learn from the master.

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Belafon  Jan 16, 2019 • 9:31:01pm

re: #76 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Speaking of first jobs:

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Squeezed, huh?

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TedStriker  Jan 16, 2019 • 9:31:04pm

re: #78 Belafon

Say what you will, but Democrats are willing to learn. And when you see a master, learn from the master.

She not only needs to teach the Dem caucus in Congress, but the DNC needs to draw on her knowledge and skills too.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 16, 2019 • 9:31:23pm

LOL

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TedStriker  Jan 16, 2019 • 9:31:51pm

re: #81 Anymouse ??

LOL

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This is true…

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 16, 2019 • 9:32:22pm

“Life moves pretty fast. If you don’t stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.”

-Ferris Bueller

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William Lewis  Jan 16, 2019 • 9:33:53pm

re: #76 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Speaking of first jobs:

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That’s what you get for navel gazing…

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TedStriker  Jan 16, 2019 • 9:35:13pm

re: #84 William Lewis

That’s what you get for navel gazing…

I wonder what was so apeeling to him to cause him to lose concentration in the job.

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teleskiguy  Jan 16, 2019 • 9:36:13pm

re: #83 goddamnedfrank

I’m 36. Napster was the wild fucking west for me for music. I just started listening to Frank Zappa, I was 18, the world was my oyster. I downloaded all kinds of shit on Napster.

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plansbandc  Jan 16, 2019 • 9:36:58pm

re: #76 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Damn it man.

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 16, 2019 • 9:39:10pm

re: #86 teleskiguy

I’m 36. Napster was the wild fucking west for me for music. I just started listening to Frank Zappa, I was 18, the world was my oyster. I downloaded all kinds of shit on Napster.

I used Napster to find old disco tunes that were on the radio when I was in college. Collected 300 of them that used to play on Pittsburgh’s Disco 96 in the 70s.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 16, 2019 • 9:42:35pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 16, 2019 • 9:46:18pm

re: #81 Anymouse ??

LOL

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Truer words were never written!

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Targetpractice  Jan 16, 2019 • 9:55:44pm

re: #83 goddamnedfrank

“Life moves pretty fast. If you don’t stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.”

-Ferris Bueller

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My memories of Napster are largely the music industry’s total freak-out. Fucking Metallica was out there, shaming people for “stealing” from the artists.

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teleskiguy  Jan 16, 2019 • 9:59:35pm

re: #91 Targetpractice

My memories of Napster are largely the music industry’s total freak-out. Fucking Metallica was out there, shaming people for “stealing” from the artists.

Bob Cesca lampooned the shit out of that.

Napster Bad! - Metallicops

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William Lewis  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:00:37pm

re: #91 Targetpractice

My memories of Napster are largely the music industry’s total freak-out. Fucking Metallica was out there, shaming people for “stealing” from the artists.

I was too busy ripping my cds & records to worry about downloading much. That would come later when there were other tools out there. The bandwidth of a traded CD of MP3 files is much better than that of even a 56k modem :)

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:01:39pm

re: #91 Targetpractice

My memories of Napster are largely the music industry’s total freak-out. Fucking Metallica was out there, shaming people for “stealing” from the artists.

Napster and other filesharing sites forced the music industry to put music online for downloading. I’m convinced we’d still need to be buying CDs to listen to music now if Napster hadn’t infringed on copyrights.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:01:47pm
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Anymouse ??  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:02:32pm

re: #94 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Napster and other filesharing sites forced the music industry to put music online for downloading. I’m convinced we’d still need to be buying CDs to listen to music now if Napster hadn’t infringed on copyrights.

A lot of us would where downloading is tricky or impossible.

That, and my stereo sounds a hell of a lot better than my laptop speakers.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:03:02pm

[deleted = duplicate]

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KGxvi  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:07:55pm

re: #30 Anymouse ??

Attacking someone for basically saying “I learned more about the situation and changed my opinion based on what I learned” doesn’t strike me as a very… smart… strategy. But then again, these guys aren’t smart

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Anymouse ??  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:14:12pm

I’m off to bed.

Catch y’all later.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:21:36pm

re: #99 Anymouse ??

I’m off to bed.

Catch y’all later.

You used to stay up way later!!

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teleskiguy  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:26:37pm

Approaching 18 hours without a Fuckface Von Clownstick tweet.

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teleskiguy  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:28:12pm

I’m skiing all day tomorrow. It’s been snowing pretty good. I might even sit in some hot springs when I’m done.

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austin_blue  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:34:36pm

re: #98 KGxvi

Attacking someone for basically saying “I learned more about the situation and changed my opinion based on what I learned” doesn’t strike me as a very… smart… strategy. But then again, these guys aren’t smart

You assume that they believe that changing one’s opinion based on new facts should be reasonable. They don’t. They just don’t. They *are* dumber than a box of hammers.

And this is the problem we face. Facts don’t mean anything anymore if they interfere with existing prejudice. And tRump has made them the loudest voices in the country.

Gillette says that men should be better men? Their skin is too sensitive for that.

Every reasonable study of the efficacy of walls indicates that they just don’t work? MAGA!

I’ll quote H. L. Mencken here, it’s apropos:

On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

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austin_blue  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:46:20pm

Oops, I killed the thread.

Night all, sweet dreams.

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Targetpractice  Jan 16, 2019 • 10:57:00pm

re: #101 teleskiguy

Approaching 18 hours without a Fuckface Von Clownstick tweet.

He usually doesn’t go radio silent like this unless some serious shit is about to drop.

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freetoken  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:09:07pm

re: #105 Targetpractice

Constipation????

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Targetpractice  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:10:23pm

re: #106 freetoken

Constipation????

Well, when all you eat is fast food crap, it does happen from time to time.

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freetoken  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:20:13pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:20:43pm

re: #105 Targetpractice

He usually doesn’t go radio silent like this unless some serious shit is about to drop.

Yep, and with Rudy “Noun, Verb, 9/11” Giuliani getting ahead of the news and moving the goalposts to somewhere around the Oort Cloud, something big - and bad - may be about to drop.

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:24:00pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:29:08pm

re: #110 DodgerFan1988

It’s pretty obvious that the wingnuts consider AOC to be a major threat, both right now and potentially well into the future, so they’re trying to demonize her as much as they can, just as they did 25 years ago with Hillary Clinton.

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gwangung  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:29:15pm

re: #110 DodgerFan1988

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Huh? Doesn’t talk like Trump and his ilk AT ALL.

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ckkatz  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:33:12pm

And for no particular reason, here is a song in Breton, a language descended from Brittonic, the language of King Arthur:

Nolwenn Leroy - Clip “Tri Martolod”

It’s about three sailors who were blown far off course. And get a little… ‘distracted’.

en.wikipedia.org

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ckkatz  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:41:18pm

Last week there was some discussion of Chinese food. I saw this today in one of the New York Times email newsletters:

Cultivating a taste for potatoes

By some estimates, China’s population of 1.4 billion is nearing its peak. To feed that many people, while trying to use less land and water, the government is appealing to taste buds.

For several years, official policy has aimed to make potatoes a culinary staple, alongside rice, wheat and corn.

Potatoes can tolerate cold, drought and poor soil, and they need less water, fertilizer, pesticide and labor than other staples. Since the 1990s, China has outstripped all other countries in production.

Potatoes are hardly new to China. They were introduced about 400 years ago, and feature in beloved regional dishes like the shredded Sichuan specialty tudousi.
But for starch, the Chinese prefer rice and noodles.

One workaround is to process the tubers into potato flour, which is then mixed with wheat flour to make steamed bread, noodles or cakes. The government also promotes regional potato dishes, and supports the production of fries and potato chips.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 16, 2019 • 11:52:12pm

In Brexit news, looks like some Tories are starting to get frustrated with PM May:

Soubry is a pro-EU Tory MP.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 17, 2019 • 12:00:29am

re: #115 Dr Lizardo

In Brexit news, looks like some Tories are starting to get frustrated with PM May:

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Soubry is a pro-EU Tory MP.

May is incredibly stubborn, in a stupid way not an admirable way. Her proposal was soundly defeated. The EU is not going to renegotiate terms. And her saying a general election now would only create more chaos is fearmongering. Like Trump, she’s painted herself into a corner where the only viable option is to surrender to reality, else stay the course and ruin the country.

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Targetpractice  Jan 17, 2019 • 12:01:39am

re: #115 Dr Lizardo

In Brexit news, looks like some Tories are starting to get frustrated with PM May:

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Soubry is a pro-EU Tory MP.

So she thinks that a thin majority voting against PM Corbyn means she’s somehow got leverage to push through the deal that squashed flat 24 hrs prior?

There’s nothing saying Corbyn can’t simply file another motion of no-confidence tomorrow. This isn’t like party votes, where winning the vote means you’re bullet-proof for a year. He only has to give May a little longer to hang herself.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 17, 2019 • 12:02:45am

my chief of staff just said frankferbers and hamberders are made from COWS

EEWWWW!

i call FAKE NEWS

not many people know this, but they’re really made from befe, folks

this i can tell you…

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freetoken  Jan 17, 2019 • 12:04:27am

re: #114 ckkatz

Potatoes, though, are not very nutritious. Low in protein, compared to grass seeds (rice, wheat etc.)

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 17, 2019 • 12:12:24am

re: #116 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

May is incredibly stubborn, in a stupid way not an admirable way. Her proposal was soundly defeated. The EU is not going to renegotiate terms. And her saying a general election now would only create more chaos is fearmongering. Like Trump, she’s painted herself into a corner where the only viable option is to surrender to reality, else stay the course and ruin the country.

I’ve noticed that quite a few of the Brexiteers are still laboring under the delusion that the UK holds all the cards and perhaps May is among those who share in that delusion.

You know, I can understand the notion of taking “no-deal” off the table…..but on the other hand, the threat of a crash and burn come March 30th should (theoretically and ideally) force the UK Parliament to come to their senses. But it seems that they’ve allowed themselves to be taken hostage by ideological tribalism.

And there’s a good chance the whole country is going to suffer as a result.

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freetoken  Jan 17, 2019 • 12:15:06am

Checks on both sides of Irish border ‘mandatory under no-deal Brexit’

Michael Lux, a former head of customs legislation and procedures at the European commission, said the UK would have to impose customs checks and tariffs on the northern side of the border, despite claims to the contrary by Brexiters.

Under WTO rules, the UK could opt for zero tariffs, but it would be obliged to offer this free-trade deal to every other country. This would mean cheap food and dairy products, which currently attract high tariffs, from countries such as Brazil or New Zealand, and might also lead to chlorinated chicken from the US ending up on British supermarket shelves.

[…]

CHLORINATED CHICKEN!!

Someone should ask Trump about chlorinated chicken, just to see what he says.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 17, 2019 • 12:16:40am

re: #120 Dr Lizardo

I’ve noticed that quite a few of the Brexiteers are still laboring under the delusion that the UK holds all the cards and perhaps May is among those who share in that delusion.

You know, I can understand the notion of taking “no-deal” off the table…..but on the other hand, the threat of a crash and burn come March 30th should (theoretically and ideally) force the UK Parliament to come to their senses. But it seems that they’ve allowed themselves to be taken hostage by ideological tribalism.

And there’s a good chance the whole country is going to suffer as a result.

It already is. People from the Continent are relocating, and financial institutions and companies are moving their offices. The only sane decision to make is a painful one. Admit that Brexit is a colossal mistake and accept the consequences at the ballot box.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 17, 2019 • 12:21:52am

re: #122 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

It already is. People from the Continent are relocating, and financial institutions and companies are moving their offices. The only sane decision to make is a painful one. Admit that Brexit is a colossal mistake and accept the consequences at the ballot box.

I’ve already met three Brits here in Ostrava (married to Czechs) who’ve relocated in the last year or so - and they’ve openly told me it was entirely because of Brexit that they’ve decided to settle down here in the Czech Republic.

And I agree, the only rational decision is to admit that Brexit was - and is - a colossal blunder and that it must be revoked.

A lot of people are going to be absolutely livid…..indeed, there might even be some incidents of violence or civil disturbances. But it’s better to revoke Article 50 and have to deal with the brief smell of shit than have to face the crash and burn alternative - and end up eating shit for the rest of their lives.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 17, 2019 • 12:32:57am
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 17, 2019 • 12:51:27am

re: #122 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

And I forgot to add this whole Brexit debacle isn’t being made any better by Her Majesty’s Opposition; Jeremy Corbyn is a lifelong left-wing Euroskeptic and there’s a part of me that can’t help but think that he himself wants to see a no-deal Brexit crashout with a view towards riding the ensuing tsunami of chaos to electoral victory (and in some fairness, he might not be wrong in that assessment).

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 17, 2019 • 1:09:32am

Labour has decided they will back Jeremy Corbyn in boycotting Brexit talks with PM May until she explicitly rules out a no-deal Brexit.

theguardian.com

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 17, 2019 • 1:16:03am

re: #126 Dr Lizardo

Well, then. Ball is back in May’s court.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 17, 2019 • 1:25:33am

re: #127 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Well, then. Ball is back in May’s court.

What a pickle she’s in - as a human being, I feel some sympathy for her. She’s painted herself into a corner and now there’s no way out, either for her or the party she leads.

It’s a Catch-22 that would have Yossarian rolling on the floor.

It reminds me of a WWII anecdote I read about in Rise and Fall of the Third Reich; During the Battle of Stalingrad, there was a OKW General who was desperately trying to wring permission from Hitler for von Paulus’ 6th Army to retreat, reform and counterattack. Hitler, of course, refused; however, finally, and after much pleading, Hitler told him that the 6th Army could withdraw from Stalingrad provided they did not actually leave Stalingrad.

As that hapless general explained it after the war, “That bit of foolishness almost drove me insane” - and I can certainly understand why. It was a real-life Catch-22.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 17, 2019 • 1:36:44am

A little update on the Brexit shitshow:

The Lib Dems have suggested they may not back Labour in future confidence votes if Jeremy Corbyn does not back a second referendum, suggesting any further attempts would only be in order to evade the issue.

The leaders of the Lib Dems, SNP, Greens and Plaid Cymru wrote to the Labour leader last night saying the failure to force a general election meant the party must endorse a public vote on Brexit.

A Lib Dem source said later that the party would not back any attempts at no confidence votes unless they appeared to be a genuine change of circumstance.

“We will support any real opportunity to take down the Tories with relish,” the source said. “We will not be party to Corbyn using spurious means to avoid Labour policy, by pursuing unwinnable no confidence votes.”

theguardian.com

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 17, 2019 • 1:45:58am
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 17, 2019 • 1:51:01am

re: #130 Dr Lizardo

May is just like Trump. Negotiate and agree with me, or there’s no deal.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 17, 2019 • 2:14:53am

re: #131 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

May is just like Trump. Negotiate and agree with me, or there’s no deal.

Oh yeah, definitely the same kind of intransigence.

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 2:21:21am

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freetoken  Jan 17, 2019 • 2:27:54am

Russia has long been into subverting climate change mitigation efforts on a global scale.

And that is why Putin and his petro-oligarchs are so much in bed with the US Republican party.

The petro-alliance between Russia, the US, and OPEC is why there is not a global treaty on climate change that is enforceable.

Under surface of Russia’s Arctic super-region is looming disaster

Big developments are in the making on the vast tundra of Yamal. Only few decades ago, these wide and open stretches of Arctic lands were the uncontested domain of Nenets reindeer herders who moved with their great flocks across the peninsula, from the harsh coasts of the Kara Sea, along the shores of the Ob Gulf and the Baydarata Bay and south towards the towns of Labytnangi and Salekhard.

Around are flat lands as long as the eye can see, big wetlands and thousands of lakes. And underneath the ground is a thick layer of permafrost and trillions of cubic meters of natural gas.

[…]

?Our mission is to produce hydrocarbons and deliver to the markeds,? regional governor Dmitry Artyukhov underlined in an address delivered at the event. He shrugged off questions about the need for alternative energy sources and focus on climate change.

That is not for us, he made clear.

[…]

About 90 percent of Russia’s natural gas and about 12 percent of oil is today produced in the Yamal Nenets region, and a number of new fields are up for development in the years to come. Among them are the Tambey fields that are believed to hold more than 7 trillion cubic meters of gas.

[…]

Most Russians have a growing awareness of global warming. According to a poll conducted by sociological research institute VCIOM in 2017, as many as 86 percent of respondents agree that the global climate is changing. But Russians in general remain highly skeptic towards researchers’ assurances that the change comes from human activity.

According to Dmitry Yagodin, a postdoctoral researcher at the Aleksanteri Institute, University of Helsinki, there are clear indications that a growing number Russians actually believe that climate change is a natural phenomenon.

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freetoken  Jan 17, 2019 • 2:32:32am

Everyone party… until we can’t…

Investors Ignored PG&E Warning About Disasters

PG&E Corp. told investors repeatedly that weather-related disasters were a risk, but many didn’t pay enough attention until the company was on the brink of bankruptcy.

The company included warnings in its regulatory filings and offering prospectuses citing how disasters like wildfires, droughts and floods, could weigh on its results or disrupt its operations. But until mid-November, the company’s bonds were trading above face value, even those due decades from now, implying that money managers thought those risks were manageable.

[…]

“A lot of people think climate change risk is so far in the future that it’s not going to affect the bonds, but then you have something like this,” said Jens Peers, U.S. chief investment officer of Natixis Investment Managers’ Mirova sustainable investing division, which oversees about $10.7 billion in assets. Mirova was already steering clear of PG&E in part because of the 2010 San Bruno gas pipeline explosion, where it was found guilty of safety violations.

[…]

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freetoken  Jan 17, 2019 • 2:43:31am

Trump and his minions are bad in every way:

On a mission from God: Pompeo messages evangelicals from the Middle East

“This trip is especially meaningful for me as an evangelical Christian, coming so soon after the Coptic Church’s Christmas celebrations. This is an important time. We’re all children of Abraham: Christians, Muslims, Jews. In my office, I keep a Bible open on my desk to remind me of God and His Word, and The Truth.”

He added that he was in Cairo to herald another truth, that America was a “force for good” in the Middle East.

Pompeo then proceeded to rip into former president Barack Obama, who some fringe evangelists have accused of being a secret Muslim and even the Antichrist. The secretary of state used his speech to air domestic grievances, blaming Obama for the rise of Islamic State (ISIS) and the empowerment of Iran.

[…]

Years before assuming the office of secretary of state, Pompeo told attendees at a rally in his native Kansas that it was not only a right, but a duty for Christians to combine their faith with service to the country.

Politics, he said, “is a never-ending struggle … until the Rapture.” The Rapture being the belief among many evangelical Christians that believers and the resurrected dead will rise up to heaven with the second coming of Jesus Christ.

[…]

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 2:46:33am

re: #21 Anymouse ??

Mark Takano (D-CA41) puts up an advert against the McConnell shutdown.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 17, 2019 • 2:49:34am

re: #136 freetoken

We haven’t had such a rabid Xian in the Cabinet since James Watt under Reagan. Watt also believed in the End Times, and believed we might as well raid all the natural resources God gave us in the national parks, because the Chosen would be going to a better place.

He didn’t last.

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 2:53:18am

re: #35 Joe Bacon ??

Charles, I click on the Facebook link and I get this:

Sorry, this content isn’t available right now

The link you followed may have expired, or the page may only be visible to an audience you’re not in.

Go back to the previous page * Go to News Feed * Visit our Help Center.

Maybe he blocked me before…

This is the page.

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 2:59:16am

re: #72 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

“Here I sit, brokenheFarted….”

??

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 3:06:42am

re: #118 dog philosopher ????

my chief of staff just said frankferbers and hamberders are made from COWS

EEWWWW!

i call FAKE NEWS

not many people know this, but they’re really made from befe, folks

this i can tell you…

BUH-LEAVE ME!!!!11!!!!!!

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 3:07:47am

re: #121 freetoken

Checks on both sides of Irish border ‘mandatory under no-deal Brexit’

CHLORINATED CHICKEN!!

Someone should ask Trump about chlorinated chicken, just to see what he says.

Please, no. Just no. Nope. No.

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 3:14:28am

I know it’s Sludge, but this USA Today article is disturbing.

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 3:19:45am
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 17, 2019 • 3:22:20am

I just saw this rather disturbing quote from Scottish first minister Nicola Sturgeon:

The sheer scale of the prime minister’s historic defeat does not seem to have registered with her, but the nature of that loss means the whole approach of the UK government has to change.

Sounds to me like PM May, in her isolation, self-imposed or otherwise, is becoming detached from reality.

theguardian.com

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 3:33:20am

We are about to become Russia. They are disappearing the only person in the room with trump and Putin.

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 3:34:06am
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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 3:35:27am

re: #145 Dr Lizardo

I just saw this rather disturbing quote from Scottish first minister Nicola Sturgeon:

Sounds to me like PM May, in her isolation, self-imposed or otherwise, is becoming detached from reality.

theguardian.com

She’s lost it for sure.

May still thinks she can ‘tweak’ deal to get it through Commons, Lucas claims

Sure, Jan.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 17, 2019 • 3:37:22am

re: #148 MsJ

She’s lost it for sure.

Sure, Jan.

She still thinks the UK has some kind of leverage over the EU. She seems to wholeheartedly believe in that whole “the EU needs us more than we need them” nonsense.

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 3:38:00am

LOL!!

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A Mom Anon  Jan 17, 2019 • 3:43:07am

re: #135 freetoken

Exhibit 1 BILLION that corporations and “members of the business community” will never ever EVER do the right thing without….wait for it…..REGULATIONS. And lots of them. The word ENFORCED also belongs in there. Integrity is what people do when no one is watching. Humans seem to be in very short supply of that right now. Integrity and intelligence seem to be absent from most human action. It’s fucking depressing as shit.

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 3:43:11am

Some good news.

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freetoken  Jan 17, 2019 • 3:46:17am

re: #142 MsJ

Please, no. Just no. Nope. No.

If you eat chicken from anything other than your local organic chicken rancher… then that chicken was probably chlorinated.

There is nothing wrong with disinfecting chicken with chlorinated water. You do it from your sink, too.

What the UK farmers fear is cheaper chicken from the US… so they feed the chlorinated hysteria.

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 3:53:47am

re: #153 freetoken

If you eat chicken from anything other than your local organic chicken rancher… then that chicken was probably chlorinated.

There is nothing wrong with disinfecting chicken with chlorinated water. You do it from your sink, too.

What the UK farmers fear is cheaper chicken from the US… so they feed the chlorinated hysteria.

What I was referring to was asking trump about it. I can only imagine the argle bargle from the anti-vaxxer in Chief.

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A Mom Anon  Jan 17, 2019 • 3:58:17am

re: #153 freetoken

People are dumb. They have no idea what is actually required to put food on grocery store shelves. Disinfectants, pesticides, herbicides, etc are needed to mass produce foods of all types. Period. Even “organic” foods have to do these things, they just sometimes use different stuff than non organic (organic is an advertising scam mostly anyway, another layer to this dumb onion). Raising livestock and poultry without antibiotics and other medicines and dietary supplements is also not possible for many reasons, disease being a big one. It’s the reality of feeding lots of people with limited resources and maximum profits.

I’ve been growing food since I was a kid. I don’t use much in the way of chemicals. As a result I lose some of my crop each year to fungus and pests and the like. There really isn’t a way to do full on organic like people dream about without so much labor and other expenses food would become unaffordable.

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 4:04:52am

I’m really glad this prick is going to prison.

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freetoken  Jan 17, 2019 • 4:13:51am

A tale of two nations:

Does the Hitachi decision mean the end of the UK’s nuclear dream?

[…] with Toshiba scrapping its plans for Moorside in Cumbria and Hitachi scrapping its Wylfa plant on Anglesey. Wylfa’s death means a second Hitachi plant planned for Oldbury, Gloucestershire, is doomed too.

Together the three projects would have provided 15% of today’s electricity demand.

[…]

China’s Guangdong to have 26 nuclear reactors

China’s southern Guangdong province is on a spree constructing nuclear power plants, with the latest addition to the province’s nuclear plant cluster in the city of Huizhou, 90 kilometers northeast of Hong Kong.

Six reactors there will generate 50 billion kilowatt-hours per year to quench the province’s thirst for electricity.

The 120 billion yuan (US$17.74 billion) megaproject, to be run by the state-owned China General Nuclear Power Corp (CGN), will bring the total number of nuclear reactors in Guangdong, a manufacturing powerhouse and China’s largest provincial economy, to 26.

CGN’s ultimate plan is to boost that number to 46, spanning 11 plants, to power Guangdong’s booming economy, whose gross domestic product in 2018 is tipped to hit the 10-trillion-yuan mark and surpass South Korea and Canada.

[…]

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Decatur Deb  Jan 17, 2019 • 4:17:50am

re: #58 Charles Johnson

Apparently LGF has become invisible.

Like an F-35, man.

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jeffreyw  Jan 17, 2019 • 4:27:24am

Good morning!

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 4:30:39am
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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 4:35:32am

re: #160 MsJ

Is this true?

Meh. Pearl-clutching George Conway bought a Trump Tower condo when he married Kellyanne who is the granddaughter of Philly mobster Jimmy “The Brute” Natale.

The guy was a mob legend in Philly. The whole Philly mob turned out for his funeral in ‘83, according the Philly Voice.

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freetoken  Jan 17, 2019 • 4:38:35am

The UK wing of the bratfrats go all white-victimization:

BBC Announces ‘Diversity’ Season to ‘Celebrate History of Multicultural Britain’

Example of comment:

[
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This is why Steve King was right

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 4:40:55am
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freetoken  Jan 17, 2019 • 4:43:39am

Kentucky newspaper removes criticism of Trump from woman’s obituary

Apparently the newspaper is going to run the obit again, this time with the removed sentence.

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freetoken  Jan 17, 2019 • 4:46:55am

One of America’s original terrorist organizations, many times reformulated, getting caught in Germany:

KKK POLICE RAID SEIZES GUNS AND KNIVES IN A SURPRISING LOCATION—GERMANY

Police in Germany have seized more than 100 weapons in a series of raids targeting members of an extreme right-wing group claiming to be part of the Ku Klux Klan (KKK).

Officers descended on 12 apartments in eight German states on Wednesday, looking for evidence linked to a group calling itself the National Socialist Knights of the Ku Klux Klan Deutschland.

[…]

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Decatur Deb  Jan 17, 2019 • 4:58:02am

re: #159 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

The Bird Fancyer’s Delight
Tunes for the instruction of singing birds

The Bird Fancyer’s Delight für Sopranino-Blockfl?te

flageolets.com

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:04:54am

Of course he is. Of. Course.

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:05:55am

PSA

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:09:09am

re: #167 MsJ

Lol of course Jerry Jr. is connected.

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makeitstop  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:09:44am

Ola! Still raining here in LA, pretty hard from the sound of it.

For the second night in a row I’ve woken up in the middle of the night. I’m pretty sure my brain is waking up so I can whatsapp with my wife while she’s getting ready for work. I miss her and our beasties.

I guess part of the upside of running around town with my friend is that I’m spared the minute by minute shit show that Trump is running. I’m definitely being introduced to some very interesting people - yesterday I got to meet the legendary James Trussart and play a number of his incredibly beautiful guitars. They are each unique and are as much pieces of art as they are well built instruments.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:11:36am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:15:03am

re: #110 DodgerFan1988

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Does she mean her ex, Dinesh?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:19:39am

re: #160 MsJ

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Brad does know who he works for right?

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:24:27am

re: #173 HappyWarrior

Brad does know who he works for right?

Satan? Yeah.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:28:19am

re: #173 HappyWarrior

Brad does know who he works for right?

He clearly does, he’s just a moron.

And it says a lot that Trump’s defensive circle is being whittled down to the point Brad is running point.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:34:04am

lol they’re fucked

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:35:24am

re: #174 MsJ

Satan? Yeah.

I was talking about the poster child for being a bad husband.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:37:10am
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A Mom Anon  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:39:57am

re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth

Someone needs to look at this asshole’s behavior too. If you defend this shit and shame the victims, you sound an awful lot like a perpetrator. It would be irresponsible not to speculate….

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:40:04am

re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So they’re going need an interim interim President now? Sheesh

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:40:23am

re: #179 A Mom Anon

Someone needs to look at this asshole’s behavior too. If you defend this shit and shame the victims, you sound an awful lot like a perpetrator. It would be irresponsible not to speculate….

For sure.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:43:29am

:D

“Was that the right deal or was that just fantasy? Are we stuck in the Union, no article fifty?

“Open your eyes, did you notice the lies or see? I’m just Theresa, I need your sympathy …

“David, I just switched to leave, undermined all that I said, the people’s will put that to bed. David! I was sure we’d won, but now that’s changed I’m Brexit all the way.

“I see a skinny silhouetto of a man, Jacob Rees! Jacob Rees! Will you set up a new quango?”

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Sir John Barron  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:49:03am

re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth

What’s the world coming to when you can’t blame the victims?

///

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:50:43am

Another consistent poll. Trump is now starting to kill his own base.
Poll: Trump Approval Down, Slips With Base

And the movement has come from within key portions of his base. He is:


  • Down significantly among suburban men, a net-positive approval rating of 51-to-39 percent to a net-negative of 42 percent approve, 48 percent disapprove. That’s a net change of down 18 percentage points;

  • Down a net of 13 points among white evangelicals, from 73-to-17 percent approve to 66-to-23 percent approve;

  • Down a net of 10 points among Republicans, from 90-to-7 percent approve to 83-to-10 percent;

  • Down marginally among white men without a college degree, from 56-to-34 percent approve to 50-to-35 percent approve, a net change downward of 7 points.

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steve_davis  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:51:52am

re: #83 goddamnedfrank

“Life moves pretty fast. If you don’t stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.”

-Ferris Bueller

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one of my colleagues has a habit of talking about things from her childhood, and they all are things that happened 10 years ago. Yesterday, it was how when she was just a kid, her parents got her into Steampunk with some movie they rented, and I realized that the movie was something that came in 2010. So basically, her childhood happened during what I still consider to be yesterday.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:53:07am

re: #184 Myron Falwell

Another consistent poll. Trump is now starting to kill his own base.
Poll: Trump Approval Down, Slips With Base

That’s gotta be driving him nuts along with knowing Pelosi has grown more popular.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:53:15am

re: #145 Dr Lizardo

I just saw this rather disturbing quote from Scottish first minister Nicola Sturgeon:

Sounds to me like PM May, in her isolation, self-imposed or otherwise, is becoming detached from reality.

theguardian.com

Maybe she only watches Murdoch’s British equivalent of Fox & Fiends.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:54:01am
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Sir John Barron  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:54:26am

re: #184 Myron Falwell

Another consistent poll. Trump is now starting to kill his own base.
Poll: Trump Approval Down, Slips With Base

Who will tell him, though?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:55:56am
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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:02:07am

re: #189 Sir John Barron

Who will tell him, though?

Doesn’t matter who’s telling him, he’s just plugging his ears going LA LAA LAAAA I CANT HEAR YOUUUUUUU

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Sir John Barron  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:02:30am

re: #44 Myron Falwell

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I hope those aren’t loaded, for their own sakes. Hope even more they’re fake gunz so nobody gets hurt.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:03:11am

re: #184 Myron Falwell

Federal Government programs generally are a supertanker in terms of cause and effect. Turn the rudder and wait ages for the effects to be realized.

Only when the reality of Trump and GOP actions are finally felt in Federal programs and jobs that directly benefit Trump voters will they realize their tragic error.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:04:17am

re: #191 Myron Falwell

Doesn’t matter who’s telling him, he’s just plugging his ears going LA LAA LAAAA I CANT HEAR YOUUUUUUU

Thanks to the Great pollsters at Totally True Polling Data who give me 50% approval rating! More than Obama or Clinton ever got! Winning!

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bd(it's all true)  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:05:33am

COUNTRTY FIRST!

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:06:38am

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:07:13am

re: #195 bd(it’s all true)

COUNTRTY FIRST!

Yeah, who shutdown the government to get a wall?

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bd(it's all true)  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:08:13am

re: #195 bd(it’s all true)

COUNTRTY FIRST!

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WHAT THIS COUNTRTY NEEDS IS A GOOD CUP OF COVFEFE AND A HAMBERDER

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:08:36am

re: #184 Myron Falwell

Another consistent poll. Trump is now starting to kill his own base.
Poll: Trump Approval Down, Slips With Base

Down a net of 13 points among white evangelicals, from 73-to-17 percent approve to 66-to-23 percent approve;

To deal with this group, I think he just needs to find a younger wife.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:09:07am

re: #195 bd(it’s all true)

COUNTRTY FIRST!

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That well’s running dry and he knows it.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:10:01am

re: #195 bd(it’s all true)

COUNTRTY FIRST!

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Says the guy who openly has admired dictators over the left.

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bd(it's all true)  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:11:25am

re: #200 Myron Falwell

That well’s running dry and he knows it.

No projection at all either

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:12:57am
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lawhawk  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:13:34am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

I see this has floated under the radar, and yet you’d think it would get splashed across every paper in the nation.

Bernie Sanders, accused of sex harassment of staffers during 2016 campaign, is trying to get ahead of the issue with apologies and statements, and meetings with various people involved.

How is this not the front page story for the guy Bernie Bros are always claiming is the frontrunner of the Democratic party primary?

He’s already admitted to doing it, and giving the typical apologies to those who were offended by his actions.

Screw the media that decides this isn’t nearly as important as what AOC is up to.

Screw the media and the fuckers who attack Gillibrand when she came out against Franken after the allegations of his harassment/groping surfaced. Screw ‘em when they’re attacking her for that once again now that she threw her hat in the ring.

The misogyny remains strong among the media class (in part because the media is run by a bunch of guys who are up to their eyeballs in abuse, harassment, etc. as we witnessed over the past few years). Any woman running for office has to deal with all the typical political BS, but also the institutional misogyny and attacks that they’re not good enough to deal with issues. We saw it with Clinton repeatedly but that was always projection - Trump was the one who lacks stamina, knowledge, understanding, and as it turns out, Trump was the compromised complicit Putin crony who was properly under investigation for fear of his being a foreign agent.

The GOP proudly elected him and voted for him because he was a bigot and misogynist. They still support him because he’s a proud bigot and misogynist and doesn’t apologize for any of it. That goes to the core of the GOP brand - they’re racist bigots and only act when someone is just a wee bit too open about their white supremacist/white nationalist objectives. They threw King under the bus in the hopes of this going away, but as we see the GOP is still down with meeting with Holocaust denying white supremacist scumbag Rage Furby, Scalise is white supremacist curious in a leadership post, and Trump is instituting a white supremacist’s wet dream on immigration policy by trying to keep out the nonwhites from the US and forcing nonwhites to the back of the bus (and out of the country).

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:14:34am

re: #202 bd(it’s all true)

No projection at all either

“Unhinged” = “They hold all the cards and are running rings around me”

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lawhawk  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:15:54am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:16:37am

re: #206 lawhawk

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No one deserves blind loyalty.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:16:44am
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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:18:47am

re: #206 lawhawk

Somehow I have a feeling that this is nowhere close to the stupidest thing Cohen will eventually admit to out of “blind loyalty”

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lawhawk  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:19:58am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:21:40am

re: #204 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

I see this has floated under the radar, and yet you’d think it would get splashed across every paper in the nation.

Bernie Sanders, accused of sex harassment of staffers during 2016 campaign, is trying to get ahead of the issue with apologies and statements, and meetings with various people involved.

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How is this not the front page story for the guy Bernie Bros are always claiming is the frontrunner of the Democratic party primary?

He’s already admitted to doing it, and giving the typical apologies to those who were offended by his actions.

Screw the media that decides this isn’t nearly as important as what AOC is up to.

Screw the media and the fuckers who attack Gillibrand when she came out against Franken after the allegations of his harassment/groping surfaced. Screw ‘em when they’re attacking her for that once again now that she threw her hat in the ring.

The misogyny remains strong among the media class (in part because the media is run by a bunch of guys who are up to their eyeballs in abuse, harassment, etc. as we witnessed over the past few years). Any woman running for office has to deal with all the typical political BS, but also the institutional misogyny and attacks that they’re not good enough to deal with issues. We saw it with Clinton repeatedly but that was always projection - Trump was the one who lacks stamina, knowledge, understanding, and as it turns out, Trump was the compromised complicit Putin crony who was properly under investigation for fear of his being a foreign agent.

The GOP proudly elected him and voted for him because he was a bigot and misogynist. They still support him because he’s a proud bigot and misogynist and doesn’t apologize for any of it. That goes to the core of the GOP brand - they’re racist bigots and only act when someone is just a wee bit too open about their white supremacist/white nationalist objectives. They threw King under the bus in the hopes of this going away, but as we see the GOP is still down with meeting with Holocaust denying white supremacist scumbag Rage Furby, Scalise is white supremacist curious in a leadership post, and Trump is instituting a white supremacist’s wet dream on immigration policy by trying to keep out the nonwhites from the US and forcing nonwhites to the back of the bus (and out of the country).

There’s some serious problems with Bernie and who he associates with. It makes me question how his administration would be and run. And that’s not even considering Davine.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:30:53am

re: #206 lawhawk

Michael Cohen hired an IT firm to rig early CNBC, Drudge polls in favor of Trump. The contractor says he got much less than the $50,000 promised.
— The Wall Street Journal

As bad as things are, we’d be in much worse shape if this gang was anything like intelligent or even savvy.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:31:44am

re: #212 Sir John Barron

As bad as things are, we’d be in much worse shape if this gang was anything like intelligent or even savvy.

That is their only saving grace

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:35:01am

re: #213 HappyWarrior

That is their only saving grace

Is saving disgrace a good modifier?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:35:42am

re: #204 lawhawk

Gee. Only took him 3 years to apologize. *rolls eyes*

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:35:44am

re: #185 steve_davis

one of my colleagues has a habit of talking about things from her childhood, and they all are things that happened 10 years ago. Yesterday, it was how when she was just a kid, her parents got her into Steampunk with some movie they rented, and I realized that the movie was something that came in 2010. So basically, her childhood happened during what I still consider to be yesterday.

Which movie?

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:36:49am

re: #212 Sir John Barron

As bad as things are, we’d be in much worse shape if this gang was anything like intelligent or even savvy.

They’re making the Ohio Gang look like MENSA members by comparison.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:38:44am

So yesterday people were in to put vinyl flooring down. Both cats strolled through the glue before the tiles went in. So sudden vet consult resulting in hilarious attempts to implement “just clean their paws with olive oil and soap”. Watching them walk like an ill trained Lipizzaner horse is pretty funny.

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:39:48am

re: #195 bd(it’s all true)

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:40:43am

re: #204 lawhawk

Do you know what’s going to really cause Bernie trouble if he runs again as a Democrat? Four women running against him.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:41:55am

He’s right, though

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Sir John Barron  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:42:30am

re: #218 Unshaken Defiance

So yesterday people were in to put vinyl flooring down. Both cats strolled through the glue before the tiles went in. So sudden vet consult resulting in hilarious attempts to implement “just clean their paws with olive oil and soap”. Watching them walk like an ill trained Lipizzaner horse is pretty funny.

Hmmm, what kind of soap? Would think that would not be good for them, although perhaps it would be better than to have them licking glue off their paws.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:48:29am

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:56:05am
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:57:58am

I swear, I walk away from here to do real world stuff, come back, and there’s even more scandals surrounding Trump. It’s like clockwork.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:58:42am

re: #214 Unshaken Defiance

Is saving disgrace a good modifier?

I was speaking in jest.

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:58:47am

re: #225 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I swear, I walk away from here to do real world stuff, come back, and there’s even more scandals surrounding Trump. It’s like clockwork.

Don’t worry.

Drudge is still pushing the Hillary e-mail shtick.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:59:45am

re: #227 Joe Bacon ??

Don’t worry.

Drudge is still pushing the Hillary e-mail shtick.

Butter emails and the Benghazi Four — two things that will never go away.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:59:57am

re: #223 The Vicious Babushka

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:00:42am

re: #220 Belafon

Do you know what’s going to really cause Bernie trouble if he runs again as a Democrat? Four women running against him.

Absolutely.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:04:14am

re: #225 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I swear, I walk away from here to do real world stuff, come back, and there’s even more scandals surrounding Trump. It’s like clockwork.

I have a gut feeling that this isn’t the only thing that’s gonna drop today. This is bad, but Rudy moved the goalposts last night in obvious anticipation of something worse.

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Curious Lifeform  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:05:36am
And there’s a good chance the whole country is going to suffer as a result.

I think the whole country is going to suffer whatever happens now. It becomes a matter of degrees.

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:08:46am

Reading e-mails from my friends in Europe, they’re telling me that Trump has permanently damaged America’s image. We will never get back their esteem.

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:11:27am

re: #233 Joe Bacon ??

Reading e-mails from my friends in Europe, they’re telling me that Trump has permanently damaged America’s image. We will never get back their esteem.

Not much we can do about that except hopefully be there if something bad happens.

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:13:36am

re: #212 Sir John Barron

As bad as things are, we’d be in much worse shape if this gang was anything like intelligent or even savvy.

That is worth repeating.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:13:46am

re: #233 Joe Bacon ??

Reading e-mails from my friends in Europe, they’re telling me that Trump has permanently damaged America’s image. We will never get back their esteem.

My cousin in the UK was telling me that it was bad enough when he was nominated. I never have felt judged unfairly for being an American in my two overseas trips since Trump became President but I’m always proud to tell anyone I meet that I didn’t vote for him. I still chuckle at these two young women from Calgary who told me they didn’t think they could like me if I voted for Trump.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:14:19am

Wow, businessmen are starting to get nervous about Trump’s recklessness and anti-curiosity, who’ve guessed that one

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:15:47am

re: #237 Myron Falwell

Wow, businessmen are starting to get nervous about Trump’s recklessness and anti-curiosity, who’ve guessed that one

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Well Bill if you would admit that your intellectuals or even quasi ones aren’t so smart at all. That would be a nice start.

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:17:06am

re: #237 Myron Falwell

Wow, businessmen are starting to get nervous about Trump’s recklessness and anti-curiosity, who’ve guessed that one

You’re not an intellectual if you can’t be convinced by evidence, you’re a cult member.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:19:04am

And to be frank Bill himself isn’t too smart given how he totally didn’t comprehend Iraq and later thought Palin was a great idea. No, he’s not stupid like Trump but he’s no great intellect whose insight I seriously take.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:19:08am

re: #238 HappyWarrior

Well Bill if you would admit that your intellectuals or even quasi ones aren’t so smart at all. That would be a nice start.

Bill’s probably afraid of triggering their poor widdle fee-fees if he were to say the obvious.

Sadly I wish I was joking here.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:20:00am

re: #227 Joe Bacon ??

Don’t worry.

Drudge is still pushing the Hillary e-mail shtick.

WHATABOUT WHATABOUT WHATABOUT WHATABOUT WHATABOUT WHATABOUT

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Curious Lifeform  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:20:24am

re: #236 HappyWarrior

My cousin in the UK was telling me that it was bad enough when he was nominated. I never have felt judged unfairly for being an American in my two overseas trips since Trump became President but I’m always proud to tell anyone I meet that I didn’t vote for him. I still chuckle at these two young women from Calgary who told me they didn’t think they could like me if I voted for Trump.

There was a wave of anti-Americanism during Bush Jr’s push into Iraq. Having lived and worked in the US I felt it unfair. He did not represent the whole country.

This time round I feel that people in the UK (can’t speak for Europeans) just feel sorry for all the normal Americans that have to put up with him.

For what it’s worth…

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:20:25am

re: #241 Myron Falwell

Bill’s probably afraid of triggering their poor widdle fee-fees if he were to say the obvious.

Sadly I wish I was joking here.

Maybe Gillette can do a commercial.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:21:15am

re: #240 HappyWarrior

And to be frank Bill himself isn’t too smart given how he totally didn’t comprehend Iraq and later thought Palin was a great idea. No, he’s not stupid like Trump but he’s no great intellect whose insight I seriously take.

That was back when Kristol thought the crazy could be contained, could be manipulated for the Greater Conservative Good. Now the crazy is out of its cages.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:21:25am

oh boy

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:21:54am
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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:22:23am

re: #244 Belafon

Maybe Gillette can do a commercial.

Well after watching that Gilette ad I went to the store bought Gilette shaving cream, blades and Right Guard. And I didn’t give a F You See Kay when it came to the ass in the same checkout line giving me a nasty look!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:22:23am

re: #1 gocart mozart

Garry Kasparov Kasparov has warned about this tactic - getting people to believe its impossible to know the truth, so they just quit trying & caring.

Just like we have established standards of success, happiness, fitness and beauty that are so unrealistic that people just give up and live from drive-through take-outs.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:22:52am

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh boy

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lol he’s trying to dig himself a hole to Russia with these endless self-incriminations

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Sir John Barron  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:22:57am

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh boy

It’s awaken.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:23:07am

re: #243 Curious Lifeform

There was a wave of anti-Americanism during Bush Jr’s push into Iraq. Having lived and worked in the US I felt it unfair. He did not represent the whole country.

This time round I feel that people in the UK (can’t speak for Europeans) just feel sorry for all the normal Americans that have to put up with him.

For what it’s worth…

I didn’t go overseas until Bush’s last year. But your feeling of feeling bad is one I often encountered. Not anger but bewilderment and two years and change later, I’m still there. I’m still amazed we elected Trump and that will never change.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:23:13am

re: #247 MsJ

Who started peeling onions in here?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:23:17am

yep

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:24:23am

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh boy

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Nuance my darling rotting clementine is a bitch I know. You fired Comey because he wasn’t loyal to YOU.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:24:28am

re: #4 Anymouse ??

The person who would proof read Hitler’s speeches was literally a grammar nazi

So the night before Hitler married Eva Braun in the bunker, did he and his buddies throw a Reich Stag Party?

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:24:32am

Today’s Must Read.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:26:01am

re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth

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yep

You’re not funny Mike.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:26:30am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:27:11am

re: #256 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So the night before Hitler married Eva Braun in the bunker, did he and his buddies throw a Reich Stag Party?

Always found it ironic that the guy who had a beer hall putsch didn’t drink beer.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:27:25am

re: #255 HappyWarrior

Nuance my darling rotting clementine is a bitch I know. You fired Comey because he wasn’t loyal to YOU.

And the proof he did so is inexorable.

This is just playing with fire, which considering Trump, isn’t as stupid in comparison to all the horrifyingly stupid things he’s doing to himself.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:28:25am

re: #258 HappyWarrior

You’re not funny Mike.

Was he ever funny? ??

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:28:45am

re: #248 Joe Bacon ??

Well after watching that Gilette ad I went to the store bought Gilette shaving cream, blades and Right Guard. And I didn’t give a F You See Kay when it came to the ass in the same checkout line giving me a nasty look!

I have Gillette stuff in my bathroom and I see no reason to switch from using them.

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Jay C  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:29:38am

re: #256 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So the night before Hitler married Eva Braun in the bunker, did he and his buddies throw a Reich Stag Party?

Yeah, and it was real barnburner…

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Dr. Matt  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:29:54am

The Donnie Crime Family Circle of Lies:

“There was no collusion with Russians!”

“OK, there was collusion with Russians but it was just about adoptions!”

“OK, the collusion with Russians was to get dirt on Hillary and not about adoptions!”

“OK, the collusion with Russians was ALSO giving them confidential polling data!”

“There was no collusion with Russians!”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:30:16am

re: #262 Myron Falwell

Was he ever funny? ??

The Chuck Norris ad wasn’t bad but I think Norris is an asshole. If I want a bearded folk hero’s endorsement, gimme The Dude, Jeff Bridges is awesome and not a right wing asshole.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:31:27am

re: #244 Belafon

Maybe Gillette can do a commercial.

It’s letting capitalism lead the way ////

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:31:31am

I think Donnie Jr is about to be indicted.

Trump was too quiet yesterday.

Then Rudy does his thing in an interview.

This morning, trump is subdued. His tweets are off. No ‘crying Schumer (or whatever he called him)…just one liners.

Something is up.

Maybe Stone is talking to save his ass.

Whatever it is…it is bad.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:35:16am
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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:35:36am

re: #253 Sir John Barron

Who started peeling onions in here?

I’m not crying, you’re crying!

<3

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:36:54am

re: #268 MsJ

I’m so old I remember when we didn’t need to speculate why the president was or wasn’t tweeting crazy stuff all day.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:38:10am
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Belafon  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:41:50am

Bwahahahaha:

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:42:13am
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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:44:07am

Holy shit

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:45:04am

re: #269 The Vicious Babushka

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Sir John Barron  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:46:19am

re: #273 Belafon

Bwahahahaha:

It’s almost like they haven’t thought these things out.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:46:30am

re: แอดไลน์รับเครดิตฟรี 50#276 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Holy shit

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It’s looking more and more like 1970’s Argentina. People need to go on trial for this especially if it comes out the kids were being given to Evangelical allies of the administration.

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Alephnaught  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:49:33am

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh boy

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Would anyone be so kind as to translate this into English? What’s the Schumer stuff about?

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lawhawk  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:50:23am

re: #279 HappyWarrior

It’s looking more and more like 1970’s Argentina. People need to go on trial for this especially if it comes out the kids were being given to Evangelical allies of the administration.

Everywhere you look, you see Trump/GOP actively ignoring the US Constitution. It wasn’t just the Emoluments. It was everything. They simply ignored it because they wanted to maximize harms to their political enemies. They ignored their oaths of office to protect and defend the Constitution.

They engaged in impeachable offenses. The IG at the GSA noted that the GSA lawyers ignored the Constitution by giving a thumbs up for Trump to violate federal law and the Constitution. That’s bugnuts insane, as it means those lawyers who approved the deal violated their own obligations as officers of the courts - and should be disbarred.

That one instance alone is a huge scandal. But in the scheme of Trumpworld, it’s a back seat item to every other insane bit of creeping GOP fascism.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:51:13am

re: #271 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

I’m so old I remember when we didn’t need to speculate why the president was or wasn’t tweeting crazy stuff all day.

A friend posted an old snippet of Obama discussing Reinhold Niebuhr. Not only do I doubt Trump could discuss philosophy, I doubt Trump knows Reinhold Niebuhr from Oscar Mayer.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:52:26am

Correct me if I’m incorrect, as of yet nothing has been debunked in the Steele Dossier….correct?

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Dr. Matt  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:53:11am

re: #275 MsJ

A group of pugs is called a grumble. A group of crows is called a murder. A group of flamingos is called a flamboyance. A group of rhinos is called a crash. A group of giraffes is called a tower. A group of mice is called a nest. What is a group of Republicans called?

— Barbara Malmet (@B52Malmet) January 16, 2019

HRC already gave them a name back in 2016.

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:53:35am

re: #282 HappyWarrior

A friend posted an old snippet of Obama discussing Reinhold Niebuhr. Not only do I doubt Trump could discuss philosophy, I doubt Trump knows Reinhold Niebuhr from Oscar Mayer Judge Reinhold.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:53:48am

re: #283 Dr. Matt

Correct me if I’m incorrect, as of yet nothing has been debunked in the Steele Dossier….correct?

I don’t even know what was in the Steele Dossier. But it sure snowflake triggered all the wingnut MAGA snowflakes.

Given all the attention they pay to it, you’d think the MAGA hats wanted more people to pay attention to the Steele Dossier.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:53:57am

re: #283 Dr. Matt

Correct me if I’m incorrect, as of yet nothing has been debunked in the Steele Dossier….correct?

So far, it’s been corroborated with independent evidence and sources.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:54:55am

I joked a few days ago that the Special Counsel’s report in book form would be a 25-volume encyclopedia.

It probably shouldn’t have been a joke. This level of corruption will take a decade to sort out entirely, if not longer. It’ll never be properly collected in book form.

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freetoken  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:55:02am

As if there was any doubt about the relationship between the Brexiteers and American atavists… the notorious Heritage Foundation chimes in with a piece from the “Thatcher” guy:

A “No Deal” Brexit Is Best for Britain and the United States

A “sovereign Brexit” would provide tremendous impetus to a US-UK free trade agreement, advancing economic freedom on both sides of the Atlantic and further enhancing the Special Relationship between the world’s largest and fifth largest economies. Such a deal already enjoys strong support from the Trump administration and on Capitol Hill. It could be in place by the end of 2019.

Note there is no evidence given for any claim that Brexit is good for the US. It’s just declared.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:55:12am

re: #280 Alephnaught

Would anyone be so kind as to translate this into English? What’s the Schumer stuff about?

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:55:13am

re: #280 Alephnaught

Would anyone be so kind as to translate this into English? What’s the Schumer stuff about?

Implication that Schumer is tied to a woman’s apron strings, I think. (Plus the continuing garbage about Schumer the soft and yielding, because as the most prominent member of the minority he made some deals that weren’t very favorable to the Dems, rather than stand unyielding and get nothing.)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:56:08am

re: #285 MsJ

Better.

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lawhawk  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:56:15am

re: #283 Dr. Matt

Correct me if I’m incorrect, as of yet nothing has been debunked in the Steele Dossier….correct?

The dossier - a collection of raw information - continues to be validated by other sources, including federal investigations, Mueller, and investigative journalists.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:56:46am

re: #275 MsJ

Just say MAGAts.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:57:15am

“I was never mayor of New York!”
~Rudy Giuliani, Jan 2019

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lawhawk  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:58:39am

re: #289 freetoken

Brexit isn’t good for the US, let alone the UK.

Brexit means another set of deals that we’d have to negotiate and would likely result in something that tries to approximate the EU-US trade deal. There’s lots of wishful thinking of what it does for the US.

We know for a fact that Brexit will suck for the UK. It’s indisputable at this point that it will result in less economic growth because all the trade barriers that didn’t exist with the EU are suddenly now there.

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lawhawk  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:58:43am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:59:56am

re: #275 MsJ

A COLLUSION

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Sir John Barron  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:00:43am

re: #297 lawhawk

1. We didn’t “rig” these polls.
2. OK, we did sort of rig the polls but they were only online polls which everyone knows are crap polls anyway
3. WHATABOUT
4. OK, we rigged the polls but so what? It was all in a righteous cause of ending abortion and building a giant wall.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:00:58am

re: #291 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Implication that Schumer is tied to a woman’s apron strings, I think. (Plus the continuing garbage about Schumer the soft and yielding, because as the most prominent member of the minority he made some deals that weren’t very favorable to the Dems, rather than stand unyielding and get nothing.)

Pelosi is leading the way because she has power and all the cards. Schumer has no real power but he’s standing firm alongside her and refusing to yield, shocking the hell out of all of us.

Reading between the lines, Trump’s upset that his Ann Coulter’s grand plan of making the Democrats cave is failing bigly. Insulting Schumer is evidence he has nothing left, and even this isn’t going to help.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:05:01am

re: #300 Myron Falwell

Pelosi is leading the way because she has power and all the cards. Schumer has no real power but he’s standing firm alongside her.

Reading between the lines, Trump’s upset that his Ann Coulter’s grand plan of making the Democrats cave is failing bigly. Insulting Schumer is evidence he has nothing left, and even this isn’t going to help.

I still think someone on the R side is going to have to talk Drump off the ledge on this one. Graham tried to with his 3 week funding deal. Someone else will have to come up with some way of making Drump think he’s won when he hasn’t.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:06:29am

re: #300 Myron Falwell

Pelosi is leading the way because she has power and all the cards. Schumer has no real power but he’s standing firm alongside her and refusing to yield, shocking the hell out of all of us.

Reading between the lines, Trump’s upset that his Ann Coulter’s grand plan of making the Democrats cave is failing bigly. Insulting Schumer is evidence he has nothing left, and even this isn’t going to help.

I’ve no doubt that Nancy’s rescinding of his SOTU grandstanding opportunity genuinely surprised him. He probably freaked at Mulvaney for hours.

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:11:20am

Governor Jade Helm says what?

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:13:19am

re: #303 MsJ

Governor Jade Helm says what?

As long as they use money meant for other things, that will be ok.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:13:40am

re: #301 Sir John Barron

I still think someone on the R side is going to have to talk Drump off the ledge on this one. Graham tried to with his 3 week funding deal. Someone else will have to come up with some way of making Drump think he’s won when he hasn’t.

Judging by Ann going off the deep end last night, it has to be happening. But even then, I don’t know how you can spin such a catastrophic failure as a win.

If they can’t crack through his ego and/or Mitch falls to give up his long-lost war, then the GOP senate is going to look forward to another week of damaging news, imploding polls and messaging/narratives solidly against them, followed by another round of missing paychecks. Then it’s going to get really ugly for them.

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lawhawk  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:14:03am
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ObserverArt  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:14:39am

Late Morning Greetings!

I haven’t read anything since last night. But I ask…

What now???

(Seems a good general thing to ask to start the day around here anymore.)

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:15:04am
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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:15:28am

re: #303 MsJ

Governor Jade Helm says what?

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Money for thee, but not from me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:17:31am

re: #303 MsJ

Governor Jade Helm says what?

Texas GOP turns on Trump: Republican Gov. Greg Abbott, the state’s two Republican senators, and a bipartisan group of 20 members of Congress from Texas have sent a letter to Trump stating their opposition to using Hurricane Harvey aid for a border wall

Wow, thie is right out of House of Cards

Remember when President Underwood declared a national employment emergency to divert FEMA funds for his jobs program that Congress would not approve?

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lawhawk  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:23:17am

re: #308 MsJ

That argument didn’t fly when the prosecutor was… checks notes…. Rudy Giuliani or… checks notes…. Chris Christie.

Both prosecuted mobsters and nailed the top of the food chain for the acts by those underlings because that’s how conspiracies work. The top guy didn’t have to know every detail - only that they were furthering the goal set by the top guy.

In this case, Trump not only conspired with the underlings, but he was actively involved at every step.

So yeah, these are impeachable high crimes (there isn’t a goddamned misdemeanor in the entire bunch). We aren’t talking blowjobs or affairs. We’re talking money laundering, conspiring against the US, conspiracy, obstruction of justice, Emoluments Clause violations, more conspiracy, witness tampering, and more conspiracy.

There’s a reason Mueller can’t complete the report - because Trump’s adding to the goddamned list of crimes by the day.

On the Emoluments alone, he was engaging in an ongoing violation of his oath of office to protect and defend the Constitution which explicitly prohibits Emoluments. Trump sought out deals even while he was running for office with the Russians. He refused to separate from his businesses, and brought in his family that likewise refused to separate from his businesses. All of them are complicit, compromised, and criminal.

And those who didn’t directly act in a criminal fashion knew that the crimes were being committed and did nothing - that makes their violations of their oaths also impeachable - here’s looking at you Pence, McConnell, and Ryan (who has since fled Congress for a refuge in the private sector after getting the billionaire class the tax scam cuts they’ve wanted).

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:23:27am

re: #310 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Wow, thie is right out of House of Cards

Remember when President Underwood declared a national employment emergency to divert FEMA funds for his jobs program that Congress would not approve?

I never watched that.

trump probably did and that’s where he gets his ideas.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:24:22am

re: #302 Sir John Barron

I’ve no doubt that Nancy’s rescinding of his SOTU grandstanding opportunity genuinely surprised him. He probably freaked at Mulvaney for hours.

Ayup. She hit him where it hurt most. His ego.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:29:03am

re: #303 MsJ

Governor Jade Helm says what?

“We really need a Wall even if it means declaring an Emergency and diverting funds from another federal project because there is a True Crisis on our Border.”

Rumors POTUS will divert money from hurricane relief to fund the wall.

“Now, wait just a minute, we object to any funds being diverted from money we lawfully receive and deserve.”

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:30:16am

re: #312 MsJ

I never watched that.

trump probably did and that’s where he gets his ideas.

Underwood has people killed. Trump, AFAIK, has not yet resorted to murder. But he’s managed to imitate nearly everything else Underwood does in the series.

I only started watched House of Cards from season 1 after Trump took office. It’s impossible to suspend disbelief while watching it, because the same shit is happening for real, so after about 10 episodes I gave it up.

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TedStriker  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:31:35am

re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:31:48am

re: #314 Sir John Barron

“We really need a Wall even if it means declaring an Emergency and diverting funds from another federal project because there is a True Crisis on our Border.”

Rumors POTUS will divert money from hurricane relief to fund the wall.

“Now, wait just a minute, we object to any funds being diverted from money we lawfully receive and deserve.”

It’s a major emergency! But don’t ask Texas to pay for it.

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Jay C  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:34:19am

re: #296 lawhawk

Brexit isn’t good for the US, let alone the UK.

Brexit means another set of deals that we’d have to negotiate and would likely result in something that tries to approximate the EU-US trade deal. There’s lots of wishful thinking of what it does for the US.

We know for a fact that Brexit will suck for the UK. It’s indisputable at this point that it will result in less economic growth because all the trade barriers that didn’t exist with the EU are suddenly now there.

Even leaving aside the “wishful thinking” issue (IMO a major component of the whole Brexit scam), has anyone actually seen/heard/read of any concrete proposals for any of these supposedly beneficial “deals”?

Outside of the usual blinkered British insularity and xenophobia (the main movers of “Leave”, IMHO), there was always a more-or-less unquestioned assumption in the process that, once free of “Euro overregulation”, the UK would be able to leverage its newly-regained “sovereignty” to negotiate all sorts of advantageous trade agreements which would lead to some sort of New Golden Age of prosperity and power. Though exactly how they were supposed to manage this in the world economy of 2019 seems to have been one of those “details to be worked out later” things. Which now that it finallly actually is “later”, still AFAICT, unresolved.

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Danack  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:34:44am

re: #315 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Underwood has people killed. Trump, AFAIK, has not yet resorted to murder.

On the other hand, the policy of separating children from (brown) families as a punishment to try to prevent the legal activity of claiming asylum is a crime against humanity.

So he’s got that going for him.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:35:06am

the streak goes on:

yesterday was day 85 (my previous max)
today is the 86th day in a row i’ve done a run. i am past the pole and on the other side.

when i ran those 85, i clocked about 480 miles. these 85 came in at around 710 miles.

i almost lost it today and once again was faced with the obsessive nature and bad decision making that comes with chasing meaningless stats.

post- dopey and marathons in general, the body’s immune system is a bit weak. Add to that being around all those with the flu and stuff, something hit me last night. feels more like a cold though

i went to bed certain that i wouldn’t run and i was fine with it because i just hit the 85.
it would have been a sad way to end while i’d be released from this particular mania

well 11 hours of sleep will change an attitude, so i went out for 6 and managed to actually do 6. flat, nice and easy. (the legs are still rebelling)

could happen again tomorrow. i could get worse. of course now i’m on the total other side plus one day, so it’s a new PR. One second, one day, doesn’t matter. besides, what does it mean anyway?

when you (I?) near the cusp of breaking through it becomes the focus. If this was 20 days ago; meh. and a few more days forward and still meh.

a tad short and arrrggggghhhh ….*so* close
and just a day or so over the line - is well arent you tough enough to keep going?

this is all just meaningless nutso neurosis banging around in the my brain.

eventually i will miss a day. from injury, scheduling, illness, the day after an all out race effort, or whatever; not from inability.

then i will be free to stop thinking about this. i won’t start counting again at one.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:35:21am

re: #318 Jay C

They will be the best deals, The Best, Believe me.

//

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wrenchwench  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:38:12am

re: #320 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

Good job! Take the rest of the day off. And speaking of rest, take tomorrow, too.

/?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:40:35am

re: #315 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Underwood has people killed. Trump, AFAIK, has not yet resorted to murder. But he’s managed to imitate nearly everything else Underwood does in the series.

Trump would not have to hide tossing people in front of a subway train or gassing them in their garage, he could shoot them on 5th Avenue and count on FOX, SHS and Rudi to explain why it was necessary and even heroic.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:41:54am

re: #318 Jay C

Were the UK still at the head of a world empire, it could probably demand favorable trade deals and get them. Now, it’s just four territories that are barely on speaking terms, led by a government that can barely tie its own shoelaces.

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:43:04am

re: #323 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump would not have to hide tossing people in front of a subway train or gassing them in their garage, he could shoot them on 5th Avenue and count on FOX, SHS and Rudi to explain why it was necessary and even heroic.

Trump would not do the actual shooting, though. He’d notify the hitman in a public tweet.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:44:07am

re: แอดไลน์รับเครดิตฟรี 50#324 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Were the UK still at the head of a world empire, it could probably demand favorable trade deals and get them. Now, it’s just four territories that are barely on speaking terms, led by a government that can barely tie its own shoelaces.

The EU had to make an example of them by being totally hard-nosed about granting any special terms, which seems to have totally taken them aback.

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garzooma  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:45:55am

re: #325 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Trump would not do the actual shooting, though. He’d notify the hitman in a public tweet.

He’d ask Putin to do it in one of his secret meetings, then cover it up by firing anyone who tried to investigate.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:46:22am

re: #323 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump would not have to hide tossing people in front of a subway train or gassing them in their garage, he could shoot them on 5th Avenue and count on FOX, SHS and Rudi to explain why it was necessary and even heroic.

Try as I might, I can’t picture Trump literally holding a gun and shooting it at someone.

Publicly ordering a hit is a wholly different thing.

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:46:38am

Seeing Betty White and James Earl Jones trending was…

Birthdays for both!

Scary!!

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lawhawk  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:47:48am

Trump’s at the Pentagon, and when he’s now spewing about the wall, and made passing comment about the death of four servicemembers in Syria, he’s talking about how he wants money to pay for space-based missile defense.

That’s a black hole of spending that defense contractors are going to love, like former Boeing exec and now Defense Secretary wants. They’ll never have to actually deliver either.

UPDATE:
The incomparable Daniel Dale is there fact checking Trump’s sorry ass:

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:49:35am

No hamberders served:

Facebook Post

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lawhawk  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:53:01am
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Jay C  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:53:16am

re: #324 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

Were the UK still at the head of a world empire, it could probably demand favorable trade deals and get them. Now, it’s just four territories that are barely on speaking terms, led by a government that can barely tie its own shoelaces.

Bingo.

I’ve always thought, ever since the Brexit referendum campaign started in earnest, that an unspoken expectation of the end result (and it wasn’t always unspoken), was that - to pick a date - March 29, 2019 would be followed by March 30, 1910, and that Britain, finally unshackled from those dirty Euro foreigners, could only then begin to reclaim its rightful superpower status of “globe-girdling Empire”.

Though, as I pointed out above, the details of how this was to be accomplished were, and still are, somewhat vague. Though I have a feeling that the first step will likely involve a massive PR campaign: Cambridge Analytica style…

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:56:30am

The ever-devolving defense.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:57:49am

re: #247 MsJ

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For the first month we had our adoption dog this is how she welcomed me home. Now she just runs up to bump me with her nose.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:57:50am

re: #329 MsJ

Seeing Betty White and James Earl Jones trending was…

Birthdays for both!

Scary!!

It’s also Michelle Obama’s B-Day as well.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:58:07am

re: #247 MsJ

That is just the sweetest video. I needed that. If I had a bigger house, I’d adopt more dogs but alas.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:59:02am

re: #334 Myron Falwell

Rudy is giving more fodder to the FBI and Mueller so let him keep flapping his gums.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:59:22am

No wonder Fox fails in ratings.

If you think 29 year old OCA is gonna for POTUS run in 2020 your civic skills and or math skills suck.

JUST ONE PROBLEM…
Fox News Frets Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Could Enter 2020 Race

No one seemed to realize that the freshman Democrat is too young to run.
thedailybeast.com

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Sir John Barron  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:01:40am

re: #338 Patricia Kayden

Rudy is giving more fodder to the FBI and Mueller so let him keep flapping his gums.

Yes, please.

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:03:43am

re: #339 Unshaken Defiance

No wonder Fox fails in ratings.

If you think 29 year old OCA is gonna for POTUS run in 2020 your civic skills and or math skills suck.

That’s what happens when you are a Constitutional Conservative who has never read the Constitution.

Much like Barr.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:06:33am

re: #337 Patricia Kayden

That is just the sweetest video. I needed that. If I had a bigger house, I’d adopt more dogs but alas.

Reminds me that I don’t think I’ve mentioned here yet but I took in a foster cat right before Christmas (to add to my existing 4 cat rulers). This cat had been found with a broken leg and they wanted to have a foster arranged before they did the surgery.

He’s doing quite well now and I hope to eventually adopt him formally. He’s very sweet and is helping to take the place of one of my cats who died at the end of November who I was very close to.

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Sir John Barron  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:08:10am

re: #339 Unshaken Defiance

No wonder Fox fails in ratings.

If you think 29 year old OCA is gonna for POTUS run in 2020 your civic skills and or math skills suck.

Dems will lie about her age to get her to run and will rig the election with fraudulent votes to get her to win and she’ll put all conservatives in FEMA death camps.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:08:46am

re: #338 Patricia Kayden

Rudy is giving more fodder to the FBI and Mueller so let him keep flapping his gums.

Rudy’s gotta have convinced himself that doing all this was a good idea.

Win-win in my book.

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ObserverArt  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:10:05am

re: #311 lawhawk

That argument didn’t fly when the prosecutor was… checks notes…. Rudy Giuliani or… checks notes…. Chris Christie.

Both prosecuted mobsters and nailed the top of the food chain for the acts by those underlings because that’s how conspiracies work. The top guy didn’t have to know every detail - only that they were furthering the goal set by the top guy.

In this case, Trump not only conspired with the underlings, but he was actively involved at every step.

So yeah, these are impeachable high crimes (there isn’t a goddamned misdemeanor in the entire bunch). We aren’t talking blowjobs or affairs. We’re talking money laundering, conspiring against the US, conspiracy, obstruction of justice, Emoluments Clause violations, more conspiracy, witness tampering, and more conspiracy.

There’s a reason Mueller can’t complete the report - because Trump’s adding to the goddamned list of crimes by the day.

On the Emoluments alone, he was engaging in an ongoing violation of his oath of office to protect and defend the Constitution which explicitly prohibits Emoluments. Trump sought out deals even while he was running for office with the Russians. He refused to separate from his businesses, and brought in his family that likewise refused to separate from his businesses. All of them are complicit, compromised, and criminal.

And those who didn’t directly act in a criminal fashion knew that the crimes were being committed and did nothing - that makes their violations of their oaths also impeachable - here’s looking at you Pence, McConnell, and Ryan (who has since fled Congress for a refuge in the private sector after getting the billionaire class the tax scam cuts they’ve wanted).

My new favorite letters of the alphabet are…
R
I
C
O

Have thought that was what was going on from the get-go.

Trump hung around “The Boys” in New York and New Jersey. He probably used them not only for construction but also for some ‘heavy’ work. And there was Roy Cohn.

Trump had a lot of crime teachers, I’m sure a lot he has done and continues to do have those methods. Especially thinking he was protected by his underlings because he never gave a direct order.

So, he should be treated like a boss. And he should go down like one too. America needs to know how dirty he is.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:10:27am

re: #339 Unshaken Defiance

No wonder Fox fails in ratings.

If you think 29 year old OCA is gonna for POTUS run in 2020 your civic skills and or math skills suck.

Well, it’s not like they have a research department or anything like that ////

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:10:45am

re: #343 Sir John Barron

Dems will lie about her age to get her to run and will rig the election with fraudulent votes to get her to win and she’ll put all conservatives in FEMA death camps.

Works for me!

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ObserverArt  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:17:40am

re: #339 Unshaken Defiance

No wonder Fox fails in ratings.

If you think 29 year old OCA is gonna for POTUS run in 2020 your civic skills and or math skills suck.

No further evidence needed to prove FOX News is fact free. They can’t even get something so simple correct, how the hell would they know anything about Benghazi or email server security. They never even check for facts. Facts get in the way of emotion. They report to trigger those emotions. Hate mainly.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:22:06am

I see President shitweasel is back to the stupid tweets again.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:23:30am

I can’t seem to lurk fast enough anymore. I find myself jumping to bottom way too often

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:23:53am

re: #339 Unshaken Defiance

No wonder Fox fails in ratings.

If you think 29 year old OCA is gonna for POTUS run in 2020 your civic skills and or math skills suck.

If you’ve thrown out the constitution, there’s no age requirement.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:25:35am

re: #350 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

…and with that the thread stops

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:27:40am

re: #344 Myron Falwell

Rudy’s gotta have convinced himself that doing all this was a good idea.

Win-win in my book.

Someone said that everything Rudy does is planned and has a purpose.

I am missing it, myself. It seems incredibly insane to me…that whole interview.

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:31:14am

too little, too late. Fuck Facebook.

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BigPapa  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:31:38am

Chuccubus is still trending on Twitter. I gotta say it’s been a good day.

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wrenchwench  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:32:53am

re: #350 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

I can’t seem to lurk fast enough anymore. I find myself jumping to bottom way too often

Jumping to the bottom is also lurking, it’s the ‘fast enough’ kind of lurking. All those clever comments that whip on by… there will be more. Some will be QedFT, you can watch the updings happen in the Spy, check the Top Ten list, it all works. Sometimes it’s better to lurk and read, sometimes it’s better to jump to the bottom and hang out in ‘real time’.

There is no wrong way to LGF.

If you happen to find one, you’ll be warned and/or banned.

re: #352 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

…and with that the thread stops

I type slow. And my grammar ain’t so good.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:34:11am
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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:35:26am

re: #356 wrenchwench

Who was it that we used to see start updinging from the top of the thread, slowly working through until caught up. Was it SFZ?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:38:01am

re: #358 Unshaken Defiance

Who was it that we used to see start updinging from the top of the thread, slowly working through until caught up. Was it SFZ?

Yes it was. I miss her.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:38:30am
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:39:01am

I will straight up wear the fuck out of these shirts

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:41:47am

Needs more work.

Can someone do a mashup of the image for the final season of Breaking Bad where Walter White is sitting on his meth, cash & guns throne, with the headline “All hail the king” ?

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makeitstop  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:42:01am

re: #343 Sir John Barron

Dems will lie about her age to get her to run and will rig the election with fraudulent votes to get her to win and she’ll put all conservatives in FEMA death camps.

They’ll get her fake ID!!!

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wrenchwench  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:43:08am

re: #358 Unshaken Defiance

Who was it that we used to see start updinging from the top of the thread, slowly working through until caught up. Was if SFZ?

Oh, man, don’t make me start missing people. I looked at some years-old comment the other day, and checked who dinged it. SFZ was there. And several others who are gone, to greater and lesser degrees.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:46:42am

re: #364 wrenchwench

Oh, man, don’t make me start missing people. I looked at some years-old comment the other day, and checked who dinged it. SFZ was there. And several others who are gone, to greater and lesser degrees.

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Jay C  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:46:44am

re: #363 makeitstop

They’ll get her fake ID!!!

And a fake birth certificate!
From Hawaii!!!

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:48:15am

re: #364 wrenchwench

Oh, man, don’t make me start missing people. I looked at some years-old comment the other day, and checked who dinged it. SFZ was there. And several others who are gone, to greater and lesser degrees.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:48:59am

re: #367 MsJ

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:51:22am

Jimmah and Ice. I was a little unsure on the Scottish independence thing but those two sold me. They also did a nice job with PLL who while not a bad guy was very dismissive of it despite not living or having viditrd the UK.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:52:50am

re: #359 The Vicious Babushka

Yes it was. I miss her.

I loved her teaching stories.

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lawhawk  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:53:11am

re: #345 ObserverArt

My new favorite letters of the alphabet are…
R
I
C
O

Have thought that was what was going on from the get-go.

Trump hung around “The Boys” in New York and New Jersey. He probably used them not only for construction but also for some ‘heavy’ work. And there was Roy Cohn.

Trump had a lot of crime teachers, I’m sure a lot he has done and continues to do have those methods. Especially thinking he was protected by his underlings because he never gave a direct order.

So, he should be treated like a boss. And he should go down like one too. America needs to know how dirty he is.

Suave…..

gerardo - rico suave

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wrenchwench  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:53:24am

re: #367 MsJ

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:54:51am

I hate these fucking people.

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plansbandc  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:55:26am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:55:45am

re: #369 HappyWarrior

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Mike Lamb  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:56:30am

re: #357 The Vicious Babushka

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A counteroffer like…

Opening parts of the gov’t?

A short term CR with an agreement to take up negotiations on a comprehensive immigration reform?

Yes, by all means, let’s get the truth out there. Make sure we also talk about how the GOP couldn’t/didn’t/wouldn’t get support for the wall when they had complete control of the gov’t. Do not forget that Dems offered wall funding in exchange for DACA protection, but Trump said no. Let’s ensure that we mention that Trump literally said that Mexico would issue a direct payment for the wall and not some indirect payment bullshit from a treaty that hasn’t even been ratified yet. Lastly, don’t forget the fact that there was no wall emergency until approximately a week before the new Congress was getting sworn in.

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:56:53am

re: #372 wrenchwench

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:57:39am
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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:58:31am

LOL Brian Kilmeade is straying off the GOP shutdown narrative and admitting defeat, and the in-studio audience just couldn’t comprehend it

Kilmeade acknowledged that the polls showing Trump’s unpopularity “don’t seem to make sense” but he said the president nonetheless needed to find a new strategy for winning.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:59:02am

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:59:51am

re: #373 MsJ

I hate these fucking people.

I can’t see what you’re replying to. Who’s it about?

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plansbandc  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:03:10am

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:03:19am

re: #375 The Vicious Babushka

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:04:43am

re: #381 Belafon

I can’t see what you’re replying to. Who’s it about?

Some conservative fucktard said:

Tom Elliott
@tomselliott

Rep. Omar: “Lots of Americans” agree with me that Trump is blackmailing Sen. Graham over his homosexuality

And posted a video where she absolutely neither explicitly or implicitly said this. She said Graham was compromised because of financial issues (and a couple other possibilities) but the 180 degree whiplash support for trump showed he was compromised.

And this guy posts this bullshit and then, two tweets down in his thread, says this:

Yes, Rep. Omar hasn’t explicitly said Graham’s sexuality is the blackmail being used against him. But as everyone in D.C. knows, this is the rumor circulated about Graham, so saying he’s “compromised” achieves this purpose. No reason to give her a pass for dog whistling.

fuck lying conservatives.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:06:35am
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lawhawk  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:06:39am

re: #378 MsJ

He just won reelection in an overwhelming red district and resigned effective within days from now. This isn’t just to quit to go back to the private sector or that he’s not seeking reelection (there will be a lot more in that category to be sure).

There’s more to it.

The guy was a Trump campaign lead in PA. He was up for being Trump’s drug czar. And then it was revealed he was working to weaken the government’s ability to stop companies from distributing opioids.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:07:47am

re: #384 MsJ

Some conservative fucktard said:

And posted a video where she absolutely neither explicitly or implicitly said this. She said Graham was compromised because of financial issues (and a couple other possibilities) but the 180 degree whiplash support for trump showed he was compromised.

And this guy posts this bullshit and then, two tweets down in his thread, says this:

fuck lying conservatives.

And of course the rumor about Graham’s sexuality is purely a creation of right wing fever swamps. Good dog, talk about confirmation bias.

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:08:13am

re: #386 lawhawk

He just won reelection in an overwhelming red district and resigned effective within days from now. This isn’t just to quit to go back to the private sector or that he’s not seeking reelection (there will be a lot more in that category to be sure).

There’s more to it.

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The guy was a Trump campaign lead in PA. He was up for being Trump’s drug czar. And then it was revealed he was working to weaken the government’s ability to stop companies from distributing opioids.

ABSOLUTELY! Spot on. That was my first and only thought.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:08:44am

re: #385 The Vicious Babushka

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Yeah I’m sure you’d be just fine if a liberal second lady taught at a school that banned Christians. Stop hiding behind the cross, you just hate gays and non Christians.

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lawhawk  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:10:17am

re: #389 HappyWarrior

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:12:23am

re: #390 lawhawk

That’s exactly their version of Christianity.

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lawhawk  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:14:47am

re: #387 Mike Lamb

And of course the rumor about Graham’s sexuality is purely a creation of right wing fever swamps. Good dog, talk about confirmation bias.

Doesn’t matter what Graham’s sexual orientation is. He’s a goddamned bigot who’s actions support a reactionary know nothing in the WH and willingly covering for those involved in an ongoing criminal conspiracy. That makes him complicit.

The talk of his sexuality is a smokescreen for the complicity.

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wrenchwench  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:15:42am

re: #386 lawhawk

The guy was a Trump campaign lead in PA. He was up for being Trump’s drug czar. And then it was revealed he was working to weaken the government’s ability to stop companies from distributing opioids.

Yikes. Is this the Russia/opioid epidemic connection?

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piratedan  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:15:42am

re: #386 lawhawk

what I suspect we’re going to find is the bottom of the rabbit hole… all of the worst case, “you gotta be shitting me” suspicions come true…

election fraud… hacking of actual votes, not counting of votes for Democratic candidates, over counting of GOP votes, illegal voter suppression and how that happened due to….
actual cooperation and coordination of an election campaign with a foreign government intelligence agency.

You can call it treason but despite the nicety that we have no declared war on the table, I believe it could be a “de facto” one.

That’s what I think is coming…

Which leads to a Constitutional crisis being full front and center (despite all of the other Trump distractions) and the question as if we, as a nation, can survive it.

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:17:21am

And here they do it again.

For those who cannot see:

Fox News:

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and fellow Democrats search high and low for
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell …
They couldn’t find him..
WHY?
Because they went to the wrong office … WRECKED!

AOC:

As I say *in the clip you posted* we WENT to the majority leader’s office - he was absent.

So we decided to drop letters off at almost every place he could run (including the GOP break room).

At what point is @FoxNews obligated to not lie?

And more importantly, #WheresMitch?

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William Lewis  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:19:02am

re: #394 piratedan

You can call it treason but despite the nicety that we have no declared war on the table, I believe it could be a “de facto” one.

Russian activities in the election cycle could be considered an act of war causing a state of war to exist. The other option would be to tie in the fact that the US and RF are on opposite sides of the Syrian civil war which would also be a defacto war for which treason charges (aiding and abetting the Russian Federation) could be laid.

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lawhawk  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:19:39am

re: #394 piratedan

It’s not technically treason, since we don’t have a war declared. It isn’t sedition either.

It is, however, Conspiracy Against the United States - 18 USC 371. Federal felony.

That will suffice.

And for all the right wing blather about how collusion isn’t a crime, 18 USC 371 covers “collusion” quite well. The colloquial “collusion” is a catchall for all the kinds of acts Trumpworld engaged in to try and win in 2016 with the help of foreign powers. Everywhere we look in Trumpworld, we see unregistered foreign agents furthering an agenda that is antithetical to the US. Trump was greenlighting all of this, which makes him front and center in the conspiracy. He was sending his underlings out to talk to all these unsavory characters and publicly sought out Russia’s assistance in going after Hillary. So yeah, 18 USC 371 applies.

A conspiracy can be public knowledge and still be a felony.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:22:03am

It’s pretty amazing how the comments go from “Dick Morris is a toe-sucking ghoul” to “Matt Gertz, you shouldn’t bring attention to something that will cause the Fosters more suffering” to “Matt Gaetz, go drink your lunch and focus on your constituents.”

I’ll bet MMFA’s Matt Gertz sees this evolution in most of the comments.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:24:04am

re: #392 lawhawk

Doesn’t matter what Graham’s sexual orientation is. He’s a goddamned bigot who’s actions support a reactionary know nothing in the WH and willingly covering for those involved in an ongoing criminal conspiracy. That makes him complicit.

The talk of his sexuality is a smokescreen for the complicity.

I don’t care about his sexuality either. It’s just ridiculous that these yahoos are attributing some kind of homophobia to Rep. Omar based on a bullshit rumor that they started, largely because they didn’t like how he used to speak about Trump.

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piratedan  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:24:31am

re: #397 lawhawk

ty for the further explanation lawhawk, I’m at the point right now that I am so angry that if this is all proven beyond any doubt (and Mueller strikes me as that kind of guy) then I want all of this shit rooted out…. if some Dems are also guilty.. fine prosecute them as well.

I want these people imprisoned for their crimes against the nation. I want the money that they made off of this confiscated. I want the laws that they passed and the appointments made, rescinded. There should be ZERO benefit or fallout from the shit that they pulled, if some innocent people lose their judgeships because of this, tough shit.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:26:32am

re: #379 Myron Falwell

LOL Brian Kilmeade is straying off the GOP shutdown narrative and admitting defeat, and the in-studio audience just couldn’t comprehend it

Kilmeade acknowledged that the polls showing Trump’s unpopularity “don’t seem to make sense” but he said the president nonetheless needed to find a new strategy for winning.

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plansbandc  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:27:57am

All this winning is exhausting.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:30:32am

re: #402 plansbandc

All this winning is exhausting.

TGIF

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jaunte  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:31:03am
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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:36:21am

re: #404 jaunte

I do not think the US is part of the ICC.

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jaunte  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:37:02am

re: #405 MsJ

It might cut down on some travel plans.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:37:55am

re: #395 MsJ

And here they do it again.

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For those who cannot see:

Fox News:

AOC:

i like how she and others are becoming more free and comfortable with the word ‘lie’

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:38:11am

re: #401 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

That level of admission by a cohost on Trump’s favorite morning program hopefully made his hamburdler leftover breakfast not a very pleasant experience.

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:38:20am

re: #406 jaunte

It might cut down on some travel plans.

All those worldwide trump facilities. Yeah, go there. All of you.

Saudi Arabia will be their only final destination. Ok. Enjoy the heat. I hear it’s dry.

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jaunte  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:39:10am

re: #409 MsJ

Someone should tell Trump he’s absolutely forbidden to see Mecca.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:39:54am
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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:40:14am

Rudy Giuliani “backtracked on Thursday from a surprising assertion he made a night earlier that left open the possibility that Trump campaign aides might have coordinated with Russia’s election interference in 2016,” the New York Times reports.

didnt take long

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:40:25am

re: #410 jaunte

Someone should tell Trump he’s absolutely forbidden to see Mecca.

Or not. Since he hates muslims so much, let him go.

Whatever happens happens.

(too bad I don’t have the little shrug on my computer…it would be apropos)

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:41:15am

re: #404 jaunte

Yeah, but who’s going to arrest them?

Unless the house committees were to order Sec. Neilsen jailed for outright lying to them last year, and they turn her over to the ICC…

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:41:28am

I don’t typically do sirens, but this certainly seems to warrant one: “Pentagon officials have also been unnerved by requests from the White House National Security Council, which continues to ask the Pentagon for options to attack Iran.”

cnn.com

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:42:20am

re: #414 Myron Falwell

Yeah, but who’s going to arrest them?

Unless the house committees were to order Sec. Neilsen jailed for outright lying to them last year, and they turn her over to the ICC…

I don’t think that could happen. Not with us not being in the ICC to start with.

That was because of Bush.

Why Obama didn’t put us there I do not know. It would have been the right thing to do.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:43:07am

re: #411 Charles Johnson

A CiC losing the support of the military is always a sound strategy. ////

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ericblair  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:45:28am

re: #417 Myron Falwell

A CiC losing the support of the military is always a sound strategy. ////

He’s doing his best to scare and piss off the military, national police, intelligence community, and border guards. Risky move for an authoritarian shithead; let’s see if it pays off for him.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:46:04am

re: #275 MsJ

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Cluster fuck?

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:47:24am

re: #419 Eventual Carrion

Cluster fuck?

A clusterfuck of conservatives. I like that.

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lawhawk  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:47:36am

re: #411 Charles Johnson

Trump doesn’t care what anyone tells him. He only listens to what he wants. He ignores anyone telling him things that run counter to his addled worldview. He’s a reactionary know nothing.

The Pentagon (and all the government frankly) needs someone in charge who is rational, is willing to accept facts and new information. They need someone who will not only listen, but will understand and change their position based on new information.

Trump doesn’t pass the core competency requirements - but that’s fine for the GOP, that sees the shutdown as a net positive right now because they think this will ultimately shrink size of government.

This is a shitshow, and talking about whether Trump can or should be impeached is past due.

The House can submit articles of impeachment, and it would pass the House. It’d pass on partisan terms, but then again, impeachment is a political tool. It would then be on the Senate to conduct the trial to remove Trump from office. It’d be on them to physically remove him from office. That’s where things get dicey for Trump and the GOP.

Each passing day sees more complicity and criminality revealed about Trump, his underlings, and everyone associated with the campaign and his admin. Articles of impeachment could run as long as a list of all prior scandals by every prior administration combined, and we’d be scratching the surface here. This admin is like taking everything from Teapot Dome, Watergate, Iran Contra, and Clinton-Lewinsky, combining it together - multiplying it a few times, and adding in conspiracy against the US with unregistered foreign agents and foreign powers like Russia and Turkey and spitting out an indictment sheet that runs on for chapters.

It needs to happen. The government is at a breaking point - and that too is what the GOP has sought, which is why they’re in no rush to reopen government.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:48:04am
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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:48:18am

oh my

and nate:

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lawhawk  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:50:28am

re: #423 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

Let’s be absolutely clear - Trump has never even sniffed being above water in the polls. But the GOP continues backing the fucker, because he’s doing what they think benefits them.

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jaunte  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:50:41am

“The more Mexican they are, the more discount they get.”

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:51:09am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:59:39am

re: #426 MsJ

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Facebook’s ‘10 Year Challenge’ Is Just a Harmless Meme—Right?

….Imagine that you wanted to train a facial recognition algorithm on age-related characteristics and, more specifically, on age progression (e.g., how people are likely to look as they get older). Ideally, you’d want a broad and rigorous dataset with lots of people’s pictures. It would help if you knew they were taken a fixed number of years apart—say, 10 years….

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jan 17, 2019 • 10:59:51am

hey! my tv lawyer rudy just Cleared up this whole russiar mueller collusion russiah mess for me!

it wasn’t me That colluded! it was my publicist John Barron!

ok, now that we cleared that up i win and you’re gonna build my wall

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2019 • 11:00:31am

re: #416 MsJ

I don’t think that could happen. Not with us not being in the ICC to start with.

That was because of Bush.

Why Obama didn’t put us there I do not know. It would have been the right thing to do.

Wouldn’t it require a treaty?

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 11:03:18am

re: #424 lawhawk

Let’s be absolutely clear - Trump has never even sniffed being above water in the polls. But the GOP continues backing the fucker, because he’s doing what they think benefits them.

The whole party has a death wish. They have to be aware that they are absolutely killing themselves and destroying any hope of electability in the future beyond a shrinking base unmoved by things like, I dunno, facts. The shutdown shitshow, and the resounding unpopularity of it, combined with the Democrats winning the battle in every possible aspect, only sped up the process.

The GOP sees — they have to see! — that their future is looking dimmer by the day, as scandal after scandal against their leader keeps emerging, a “leader” they wed themselves to and is now bent on taking them down with him. They see that the vast majority of people tired of their lies is growing and are further emboldened and strengthened by people who aren’t backing down to their level. They see his base of support is crumbling.

They are arrested to the fate of the Whigs in the 1850s, a party that imploded in quick and resounding fashion. Those forever red states will be left further and further behind from the rest of the states and the country at large that have to pick up the pieces of the GOP’s destruction.

The party leadership is now conducting the orchestra as the ship is sinking. Some of the compositions are Russian in origin, obviously.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 17, 2019 • 11:03:35am

This morning my niece posts this on FB:

“So I am working on a personal branding class… it’s harder than I thought”

And I’m trying REALLY HARD not to say, “Yeah, and I bet it hurts like a motherfucker!”

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jaunte  Jan 17, 2019 • 11:08:46am
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jaunte  Jan 17, 2019 • 11:12:06am

Republicans are going to follow all their worst impulses until they finally spiral down the drain.

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 11:18:31am

re: #429 Belafon

Wouldn’t it require a treaty?

That I don’t know.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 11:22:48am

re: #433 jaunte

Republicans are going to follow all their worst impulses until they finally spiral down the drain.

It can’t happen soon enough.

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ObserverArt  Jan 17, 2019 • 11:34:08am

re: #426 MsJ

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I’m still reading that Time article that was linked in a tweet up thread.

Like it states: Zuckerberg and Sandberg live in a bubble and can’t see past their own noses. So arrogant they can’t even imagine how their great service could be used to hurt democracy.

These people aren’t real. They are artificial intelligence. The computers with some proper information would know better.

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ObserverArt  Jan 17, 2019 • 11:37:13am

re: #433 jaunte

Republicans are going to follow all their worst impulses until they finally spiral down the drain.

Can we run them all through a very efficient garbage disposal?

I want them all in tiny little pieces that go down the drain and cause no further problems in the plumbing.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 17, 2019 • 12:01:46pm

re: #358 Unshaken Defiance

Who was it that we used to see start updinging from the top of the thread, slowly working through until caught up. Was it SFZ?

I don’t know who SFZ is, but I do that.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 12:16:46pm

re: #432 jaunte

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Stupid bigots.


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