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Impeachment is a powerful tool. The time to wield it is now, argues the Atlantic senior editor Yoni Appelbaum. In the latest Atlantic Argument, Appelbaum invokes Andrew Johnson’s impeachment in 1868 to make the case for democratically removing President Donald Trump from office. Appelbaum underscores that this measure is not meant to resolve a policy dispute; rather, it is an attempt to rectify the problem of Trump’s inability to discharge the basic duties of his office.

“The president is unfit for the office he holds,” Appelbaum says in the video. “Congress needs to act now and open an impeachment inquiry.”

For more, read Appelbaum’s Atlantic article, “The Case for Impeachment.”

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Teddy's Person  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:34:42pm

I overheard two female students today talking approvingly about Rashida Tlaib’s comment about impeaching the motherfucker. It made my heart happy.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:35:04pm

The video’s good, but I recommend the whole article too. He makes an excellent case with some of the very same points I’ve argued for myself about impeachment.

If someone like Trump can’t be impeached, then it’s meaningless. He’s WHY the concept of impeachment exists in the Constitution.

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VegasGolfer  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:35:37pm

Racist identified.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:40:39pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:42:52pm

re: #3 VegasGolfer

Racist identified.

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Oh, but he came up with an explanation.

Hours later, and probably with help.

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:43:15pm

re: #4 Blind Frog Belly White

“What do you mean she has two kings? I was told that’s against the Bible.”

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EPR-radar  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:43:44pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

The video’s good, but I recommend the whole article too. He makes an excellent case with some of the very same points I’ve argued for myself about impeachment.

If someone like Trump can’t be impeached, then it’s meaningless. He’s WHY the concept of impeachment exists in the Constitution.

Absolutely. And to hell with the idea of waiting on the Mueller report. Trump’s documented abuses of authority to date suffice for impeachment and removal from office, even in the extraordinarily unlikely event of the man having committed no crimes.

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:43:58pm
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Belafon  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:45:02pm

LOL

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:45:11pm

re: #8 Belafon

Pelosi said it herself that DT is having a temper tantrum.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:46:39pm

Why no wall on the “other” border?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:47:25pm

re: #6 Belafon

“What do you mean she has two kings? I was told that’s against the Bible.”

Heather Nancy Has Two Mommies Kings”, a heartwarming family story about a loving, if unconventional family very smart woman and a very stupid man.

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:49:10pm

There are people attempting to argue in that Wolf Blitzaer thread that Trump basically outranks them because he’s in the executive and he’s equal to the entire legislative. I’ve been trying to point out that he has no political power over them, and they can impeach him, but he doesn’t have any similar power.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:50:19pm

Unfortunately the only people who can impeach or remove Trump are the ones who have the most to lose by doing so.

Which is why it won’t happen.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:50:47pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:51:08pm

re: #13 Belafon

There are people attempting to argue in that Wolf Blitzaer thread that Trump basically outranks them because he’s in the executive and he’s equal to the entire legislative. I’ve been trying to point out that he has no political power over them, and they can impeach him, but he doesn’t have any similar power.

What is this ‘outranks’ shit?

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piratedan  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:51:11pm

tbf, I have no problem with the article or the idea behind it, what I kind of have an issue with is that the Dems must do this immediately or else they’re just as bad as the GOP for ignoring the problem without any nod or recognition of just how an immediate response of impeachment will be played out in the media (as in I fully expect the media to equate this as being personal about Trump versus all of the illegal shit he’s already pulled). I fully believe that the Dems will indeed offer articles of impeachment (its not as if they’re lacking any ammunition) but I also understand that they want the government to be back in business first because as much as we need to have Trump impeached (as well as members of his administration), Congress also needs to have the government up and running for the good of the country, and that needs to be addressed first (imho).

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:52:32pm

I just had a realization, and it’s connected to Susan Collins’ alleged “indecision” on Barr. (related to a post I made on the prior thread)

I posted it as a joke that she may damn well be “undecided” until a CR vote gets put up by Mitch… and maybe that IS the case. Taking one “for the team” and allowing Barr to be confirmed while saving Mitch’s hide, and she can be “the one that ended the shutdown.” Total political maneuvering that would be in line with her shameless and pathetic grandstanding for Rapey McBeerdrinker, and giving Mitch the out he sorely needs.

As I said earlier, I’m probably giving her way too much credit. But I just… can’t… shake this out of my mind. Maybe I need a drink…

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:53:37pm
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plansbandc  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:54:17pm

re: #16 Blind Frog Belly White

There are many many stupid people in this country. Do they even teach Civics anymore?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:54:25pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:54:43pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:55:43pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

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I see a man ripe for greenscreening.

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bd(it's all true)  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:56:44pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

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He can’t seem to quit you…

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:57:06pm

re: #20 plansbandc

Unfortunately no they do not. The last time I went for my Minority Inspector training one mother brought her son to the class. I commented to her at the end of the training session that her son is one of the very few children his age that has had a civics lesson. She agreed with me and said that is why she brought him to the training session.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:57:40pm

re: #24 bd(it’s all true)

He can’t seem to quit you…

I think he’s a man with nothing, looking for something.

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bd(it's all true)  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:57:50pm

re: #23 Blind Frog Belly White

I see a man ripe for greenscreening.

You wouldn’t dare replace those footballs with dildos. Would ya?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:58:14pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

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Well I’m glad he’s playing with balls rather than guns.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:58:58pm

re: #27 bd(it’s all true)

You wouldn’t dare replace those footballs with dildos. Would ya?

I’d replace them with poop emojis ??

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piratedan  Jan 17, 2019 • 5:59:35pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

hey just because Trump said on national television that he fired Comey for not shutting down the Russia investigation didn’t mean that he fired Comey for not shuttng down the Russia investigation….

same thing here with Rage Furby, Mr. Subtle himself….

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:03:21pm

re: #27 bd(it’s all true)

You wouldn’t dare replace those footballs with dildos. Would ya?

Not me. No photoshop.

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ObserverArt  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:03:46pm

re: #14 Eclectic Cyborg

Unfortunately the only people who can impeach or remove Trump are the ones who have the most to lose by doing so.

Which is why it won’t happen.

If the Republican Senators see they have something to lose, like their seats in Congress, they will impeach.

Never say never. 19 Republican Senators on their own hot seats is what is needed.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:05:50pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

The video’s good, but I recommend the whole article too. He makes an excellent case with some of the very same points I’ve argued for myself about impeachment.

If someone like Trump can’t be impeached, then it’s meaningless. He’s WHY the concept of impeachment exists in the Constitution.

I read it last night. I agree with much of except…..

…except for the bit where he suggests impeachment will cripple Trump’s ability to seize the daily narrative.

Reported again today that Trump and Bolton et al are requesting strike package details and battle plans for war with Iran.

If and when he is impeached, it will be the most dangerous moment for America since the Cuban Missile Crisis. Put nothing past Trump. Nothing. We are all essentially hostages, and we are all expendable in his estimation if he thinks that a war might save his skin.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:06:48pm
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EPR-radar  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:07:16pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

No doubt CCJ will eventually do something biological and revolting to those green footballs and somehow think of it as a ‘win’. His Facebook fans will be the first to know.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:08:19pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

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You only just now started The Americans?

By Season 6 you can call it Jesus Christ, Elizabeth?! WTF??

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:09:50pm

re: #36 Scottish Dragon

You only just now started The Americans?

By Season 6 you can call it Jesus Christ, Elizabeth?! WTF??

And that’s all I’m going to tell you.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:11:06pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

I LOVE THAT SHOW!

I started watching it with Mrs. FBW one night. She couldn’t get into it, or fell asleep. Told me to go ahead but she wasn’t interested.

So, I watched two seasons of it, and was working on the 3rd when, one evening, she sat down and watched a few minutes and got interested. I said, “You really should watch from the beginning, you know.”

Started off with Episode 1 again, the one she’d started watching and thought she wouldn’t like? End of the episode, I look at her and say, “Shall I fire up the next one?”

“Hell Yeah!!”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:11:10pm

re: #20 plansbandc

There are many many stupid people in this country. Do they even teach Civics anymore?

I was in K-12 from 1957 to 1969. They really didn’t then. I’m sure even less now.

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William Lewis  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:12:20pm

If it’s any consolation Charles, I’m just coming up for air from the first four episodes of Farscape. They did this in 1999???? And I’m just finding it now? Holy frack this is a good show.

Tossed some supper into the instant pot (diced pork chop, diced tomatoes, rice, corn) and when it’s done, I’m off to binge some more since I don’t have to work till 1pm tomorrow and it it makes me feel better to watch something good.

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bd(it's all true)  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:12:23pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

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Its a great show and Trump is not in it.

From there you are on your own.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:12:47pm

re: #36 Scottish Dragon

You only just now started The Americans?

By Season 6 you can call it Jesus Christ, Elizabeth?! WTF??

Or in Paige’s case, “Jesus Christ, Mom?!? WTF??”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:14:13pm
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bd(it's all true)  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:14:31pm

Love how the headline at Drudge Report were the allegations that Trump fudged with Drudge’s precious user polls.

Is nothing sacred?!?!

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Teddy's Person  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:14:39pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

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Oooooo, burn … I guess?

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gocart mozart  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:14:44pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:14:56pm

re: #42 Blind Frog Belly White

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Also, “Poor Martha!”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:15:09pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

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Yeah my Dad has been binging on it. I’m going to eventually. I’m on Deutschland 86 which is a lot like that at least in Deutschland 83.

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Teddy's Person  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:16:01pm

re: #43 The Vicious Babushka

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I’d love to know who’s doing the triple matching.

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Scottish Dragon  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:16:10pm

Bd tim.

Kys not oking again. Damn it.

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Teddy's Person  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:17:12pm

re: #46 gocart mozart

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mediocre whiteness is a hell of a drug

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:18:19pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

“Oh, ginger lad! Soulless bastards. Give even me the creeps!”

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ObserverArt  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:19:02pm

re: #39 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I was in K-12 from 1957 to 1969. They really didn’t then. I’m sure even less now.

Public school?

I was in 1-12 from 1960 to 1972 and we had history, civics and government. College-prep Catholic education.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:20:58pm

re: #50 Scottish Dragon

Bd tim.

Kys not oking again. Damn it.

Reminds me of the Shoe cartoon, where the Perfessor complains to Shoe that he needs a new typewriter because the ‘E’ key is busted.

Shoe tells him to work around it.

The Perfessor writes a memo:

Dar Sho,
You ar a chapskat.

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:22:37pm

BFSkinner at dailykos.com asks an important question: Who is your favorite movie villain? His is Pinhead from Hellraiser. I would have to go with Heath Ledger’s Joker.

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gocart mozart  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:23:24pm
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bd(it's all true)  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:23:55pm

re: #55 Belafon

BFSkinner at dailykos.com asks an important question: Who is your favorite movie villain? His is Pinhead from Hellraiser. I would have to go with Heath Ledger’s Joker.

Auric Goldfinger, it’s a tough question.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:24:25pm

re: #55 Belafon

BFSkinner at dailykos.com asks an important question: Who is your favorite movie villain? His is Pinhead from Hellraiser. I would have to go with Heath Ledger’s Joker.

I have to agree with yours. That act was hard to top.

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:24:41pm

re: #53 ObserverArt

Public school?

I was in 1-12 from 1960 to 1972 and we had history, civics and government. College-prep Catholic education.

In had to pass two Constitution tests to graduate; one in 7th grade to graduate grade school and another in the 11th grade to graduate high school. Fail either and, while you have a year before actual graduation ceremonies to pass either (Grayson was 8th and 12 the grades), pass you must or no graduation for you.

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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:24:51pm

re: #55 Belafon

I really like Eric Bogosian in Under Siege 2, highly underrated villain.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:26:14pm

re: #55 Belafon

BFSkinner at dailykos.com asks an important question: Who is your favorite movie villain? His is Pinhead from Hellraiser. I would have to go with Heath Ledger’s Joker.

Does Michael Corleone count? Because that would be my pick. Michael’s transformation from son who wants no part of his family crime empire to being worse than his father ever was is some of the most brilliant storytelling I’ve seen.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:26:20pm

re: #57 bd(it’s all true)

Auric Goldfinger, it’s a tough question.

KHAAAAN!!!!

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piratedan  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:27:17pm

re: #55 Belafon

Die Hard’s Alan Rickman as Hans Gruber, a close second would be John Lithgow’s turn as Emilio Lizardo in Buckaroo Banzai

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:27:23pm

re: #55 Belafon

BFSkinner at dailykos.com asks an important question: Who is your favorite movie villain? His is Pinhead from Hellraiser. I would have to go with Heath Ledger’s Joker.

Andy Serkis’ Gollum

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:27:45pm

Nurse Ratched. I can definitely see why some could consider Kesey’s portrayal of her as sexist but she knew how to fuck with those men’s heads.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:28:10pm

re: #64 The Vicious Babushka

Andy Serkis’ Gollum

I’ve been enjoying Andy’s Gollum Theresa May mashup.

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:28:54pm

re: #61 HappyWarrior

Does Michael Corleone count? Because that would be my pick. Michael’s transformation from son who wants no part of his family crime empire to being worse than his father ever was is some of the most brilliant storytelling I’ve seen.

I don’t see why not. I figure the criteria are:
1. Has to be bad.
2. Doesn’t make you sympathize
3. But you stop and watch the movie because of the bad guy.

Someone did pick Hans Gruber.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:28:55pm

re: #66 HappyWarrior

I’ve been enjoying Andy’s Gollum Theresa May mashup.

I liked his Trump Tweets

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:29:00pm

re: #63 piratedan

Die Hard’s Alan Rickman as Hans Gruber, a close second would be John Lithgow’s turn as Emilio Lizardo in Buckaroo Banzai

You saying Emillo made me think of Don Barzini in first Godfather. I wish they had shown a younger version of the character in Part 2 to show how he got to be so ruthless.

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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:29:02pm
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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:29:25pm

Tom Cruise in Collateral is a pretty good villain

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:29:31pm

re: #68 The Vicious Babushka

I liked his Trump Tweets

That was great too. Andy seems like a fun guy to be around.

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William Lewis  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:29:36pm

re: #55 Belafon

BFSkinner at dailykos.com asks an important question: Who is your favorite movie villain? His is Pinhead from Hellraiser. I would have to go with Heath Ledger’s Joker.

Hmm. That is not an easy question is it?

Tom Hiddleston’s Loki

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:30:12pm

re: #67 Belafon

I don’t see why not. I figure the criteria are:
1. Has to be bad.
2. Doesn’t make you sympathize
3. But you stop and watch the movie because of the bad guy.

Someone did pick Hans Gruber.

Yeah very true.

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:30:13pm

re: #73 William Lewis

Hmm. That is not an easy question is it?

Tom Hiddleston’s Loki

No, because we don’t tend to focus on the bad guys.

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BigPapa  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:30:40pm

re: #55 Belafon

BFSkinner at dailykos.com asks an important question: Who is your favorite movie villain? His is Pinhead from Hellraiser. I would have to go with Heath Ledger’s Joker.

Clarence Boddicker from Robocop.

Robocop: The Best of Clarence Boddicker

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:30:40pm

Hyman Roth.

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:30:56pm

re: #56 gocart mozart

That made me cackle.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:31:09pm

I bet CCJ paid way too much for those footballs

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:31:14pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:31:17pm

re: #72 HappyWarrior

That was great too. Andy seems like a fun guy to be around.

He was also a great villain as Klaue in Black Panther but Gollum is the best.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:31:34pm

Yes, I like gangster movies so I’d add Tommy from Goodfellas too. Almost cartoonish but if Henry Hill is to be believed, the only thing Pesci was missing was the physique.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:32:13pm

re: #81 The Vicious Babushka

He was also a great villain as Klaue in Black Panther but Gollum is the best.

Yes, he was. And I agree, Gollum is more well rounded. SEe, my rationale for why I like Michael.

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TedStriker  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:32:27pm

re: #55 Belafon

BFSkinner at dailykos.com asks an important question: Who is your favorite movie villain? His is Pinhead from Hellraiser. I would have to go with Heath Ledger’s Joker.

A tossup between Harry Lime from The Third Man and Khan from Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.

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ObserverArt  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:32:41pm

re: #55 Belafon

BFSkinner at dailykos.com asks an important question: Who is your favorite movie villain? His is Pinhead from Hellraiser. I would have to go with Heath Ledger’s Joker.

So many to choose.

I’m going to go with 2 obscure villains that left long impressions with me …Christopher Walken in At Close Range and Laurence Olivier in The Marathon Man.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:33:16pm

re: #85 ObserverArt

So many to choose.

I’m going to go with 2 obscure villains that left long impressions with me …Christopher Walken in At Close Range and Laurence Olivier in The Marathon Man.

Is it safe?
Excellent, excellent choice. I’m glad I didn’t have any dental appointments after seeeing that.

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TedStriker  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:33:18pm

re: #76 BigPapa

Clarence Boddicker from Robocop.

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Hell yeah!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:33:39pm

I hate to admit it, but my favorite Disney villain is Hades from Hercules. That he is played by a villain in real life is just the icing on the cake.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:34:07pm

re: #88 The Vicious Babushka

I hate to admit it, but my favorite Disney villain is Hades from Hercules. That he is played by a villain in real life is just the icing on the cake.

Woods being a prick IRL does make it better.

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delilah  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:34:25pm

Alan Arkin in Wait Until Dark.

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bd(it's all true)  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:34:36pm

re: #67 Belafon

I don’t see why not. I figure the criteria are:
1. Has to be bad.
2. Doesn’t make you sympathize
3. But you stop and watch the movie because of the bad guy.

Someone did pick Hans Gruber.

So Scarlett O’Hara wins hands down then!?

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:35:54pm

re: #3 VegasGolfer

Racist identified.

The Hill IDs the congressman who yelled “go back to Puerto Rico” at Rep. Tony Cardenas (who’s not from P.R.) as Republican Rep. Jason Smith.

Went to look him up, and his Wikipedia page had already been updated to reflect his racist display

For those that wish to send him a message: @RepJasonSmith
looks like people are just starting to give him some feedback
He apparently filters his email so only constituents can contact him

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:36:06pm

Every Disney princess movie has a villain, except for one.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:40:38pm

Bill the Butcher in Gangs of New York. Makes a pretty good movie a very good movie with Daniel Day-Lewis as the Butcher.

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jeffreyw  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:41:06pm

re: #67 Belafon

I don’t see why not. I figure the criteria are:
1. Has to be bad.
2. Doesn’t make you sympathize
3. But you stop and watch the movie because of the bad guy.

Someone did pick Hans Gruber.

So..
Does it have to be human?

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EPR-radar  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:42:12pm

re: #55 Belafon

BFSkinner at dailykos.com asks an important question: Who is your favorite movie villain? His is Pinhead from Hellraiser. I would have to go with Heath Ledger’s Joker.

The Major from the Hellsing anime and manga.

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:42:22pm

Well, we’re back to ‘0’ Days that I don’t hate humans

Animal control detectives found the corpses of five dogs in crates inside Lueders’ rented home Nov. 14 and cops put a warrant out for her arrest.

The animals had been dead for between two and 10 months before they were discovered, police said.

“The remains, for the most part, were just bones,” Lt. Robert Kalamaras told the Fairfield Post at the time.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:44:53pm

re: #62 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

KHAAAAN!!!!

And I know nobody seems to like Star Trek: Nemesis, but Tom Hardy as Praetor Shinzon was in the same league.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:44:58pm

How about Max (James Woods) from Once Upon a Time in America? Starts out as a hood but gets more aggressive as the story unfolds

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:46:07pm

re: #99 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

How about Max (James Woods) from Once Upon a Time in America? Starts out as a hood but gets more aggressive as the story unfolds

Still need to see that one. Isn’t the character loosely based on Bugsy Siegel or Lansky?

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can't think of a decent username  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:47:13pm

Darth Vader.

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plansbandc  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:47:33pm

re: #99 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

I just recently tried to watch that. The violence against women in it was too much for me.

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can't think of a decent username  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:47:39pm

…or Dracula.

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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:48:24pm

Paranoid Chant

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BigPapa  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:48:27pm

Detective Alonzo Harris, played by Denzel Washington, Training Day.

Denzel is like the bacon of actors, pretty much cheating to invoke him. But he was super creepy in Training Day.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:48:45pm

re: #100 HappyWarrior

I don’t know about them. I love the movie. The way the story is told, the acting and the music is gorgeous

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:48:46pm

re: #95 jeffreyw

So..
Does it have to be human?

I wouldn’t say it has to be human. I also am not setting the actual criteria. Those were just the ones I chose for me.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:48:46pm

It really depends what you look for. I guess I like to be able to see the character before they go villain. Some of these while definitely good choices aren’t what I typically like since they’re already villains by the time we meet them and that’s fine but for a great story, I love something where you see them at their best and worst. The Harvey Dent line, either die the hero or live to become the villain I guess is the gist of what I’m getting at. Michael Corleone fascinates me because when we first meet him, he’s telling Kay how he’s different from his brothers and father. There’s some neat symbolism in the wedding scene in that movie where the other brothers and their father are wearing more black and white and Kay and Michael to a smaller extent are wearing more bright colors. That wasn’t an accident.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:49:12pm

re: #106 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

I don’t know about them. I love the movie. The way the story is told, the acting and the music is gorgeous

Gotcha. I think it’s on NF. I’ll give it a watch one night.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:50:21pm
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gocart mozart  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:50:43pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:51:11pm

re: #73 William Lewis

Hmm. That is not an easy question is it?

Tom Hiddleston’s Loki

In that same vein, Thanos is pretty bad ass.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:51:12pm

re: #110 Charles Johnson

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His brother while far from my least favorite Dem isn’t so hot either. Don’t get it. Their father was a decent guy and I think could have made a good President.

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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:51:28pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:51:50pm

re: #86 HappyWarrior

Is it safe?
Excellent, excellent choice. I’m glad I didn’t have any dental appointments after seeeing that.

Walken scene from At Close Range.

This movie wasn’t very popular because it was seen by some as being too outrageous a story. Problem with that criticism is the movie was based on facts. It is a movie that is full of bad characters being bad. But the acting was excellent.

I wish I could find the scene when Walken hears on the radio in his truck that his family gang is being indicted. He loses it in a way that only Walken can.

AT CLOSE RANGE - Walken

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William Lewis  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:51:59pm

re: #104 teleskiguy

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Sheena is a Punk Rocker

Ramones - “Sheena Is A Punk Rocker” (Official Music Video)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:52:20pm

re: #112 Eclectic Cyborg

In that same vein, Thanos is pretty bad ass.

Thanos is a very good choice. The way that story unfolded in Infinity War really sold me on him. They kept the audience’s hope alive, right up until… *SNAP*

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piratedan  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:52:33pm

re: #113 HappyWarrior

in their case, the tree was at the top of a hill and the acorns sadly rolled quite aways ….

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:52:37pm

re: #21 The Vicious Babushka

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the house passed legislation to reopen the govt.
Sent it on to the senate
The senate won’t bring it up for a vote

-who runs the house?
-who runs the senate?

Chris, shut the eff up

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:53:05pm

I heard on NPR that the Democratic Freshmen class are themselves having their own daily strategy meetings. I suspect someone will argue it’s bad thing, but they’re already learning how to work together.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:53:16pm

re: #119 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

the house passed legislation to reopen the govt.
Sent it on to the senate
The senate won’t bring it up for a vote

-who runs the house?
-who runs the senate?

Chris, shut the eff up

Obviously the Democrats, because they won’t give in to the crazy man’s demands and pass a bill that has everything he wants and none of the stuff they want.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:53:16pm

re: #115 ObserverArt

Walken scene from At Close Range.

This movie wasn’t very popular because it was seen by some as being too outrageous a story. Problem with that criticism is the movie was based on facts. It is a movie that is full of bad characters being bad. But the acting was excellent.

I wish I could find the scene when Walken hears on the radio in his truck that his family gang is being indicted. He loses it in a way that only Walken can.

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Video

Thanks I’ll look for this one.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:53:46pm

re: #118 piratedan

in their case, the tree was at the top of a hill and the acorns sadly rolled quite aways ….

Like it’s not quite as bad as Mitt Romney and his father but it’s still disappointing.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:54:20pm

re: #120 Belafon

I heard on NPR that the Democratic Freshmen class are themselves having their own daily strategy meetings. I suspect someone will argue it’s bad thing, but they’re already learning how to work together.

I don’t see it as a bad thing. 10 years from now, they’re going to be the veterans who have been here before.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:54:30pm

Also, easy one to overlook: Arnies Terminator in the original movie.

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:54:46pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:54:58pm

re: #125 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, easy one to overlook: Arnies Terminator in the original movie.

Good choice.

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gwangung  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:55:00pm

re: #119 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

the house passed legislation to reopen the govt.
Sent it on to the senate
The senate won’t bring it up for a vote

-who runs the house?
-who runs the senate?

Chris, shut the eff up

Yup. The House passed the measure. The Senate either passes it, or passes one of their own and NEGOTIATES WITH THE HOUSE FOR AMENDMENT. Then, and only then, does it go to the President.

Blaming both sides is dumb.

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TedStriker  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:56:08pm

re: #98 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

And I know nobody seems to like Star Trek: Nemesis, but Tom Hardy as Praetor Shinzon was in the same league.

Hardy tried his best with Shinzon (a testament to his talent, even that early in his career), but that just wasn’t enough to bail out the only Star Trek movie worse than ST V: The Final Frontier

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William Lewis  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:56:26pm

re: #125 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, easy one to overlook: Arnies Terminator in the original movie.

Or the namesake in “Alien”.

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retired cynic  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:58:16pm

re: #83 HappyWarrior

Yes, he was. And I agree, Gollum is more well rounded. …

“Smeagol lied.”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:58:18pm

re: #126 FormerDirtDart ????

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Did Tom even fucking watch what he RTed. And once again, even if she had said this, it’s not fucking homophobic. Homophobic would be “Senator Graham is a f-word being blackmailed for liking cock.” Fuck everyone who twisted her words on this. She said nothing about being gay.

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:58:20pm

re: #56 gocart mozart

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:58:56pm

re: #130 William Lewis

Or the namesake in “Alien”.

If we’re going Sci-Fi, might I suggest The Thing in John Carpenter’s 1982 flick. Still my favorite sci-fi movie.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:59:06pm

re: #57 bd(it’s all true)

Auric Goldfinger, it’s a tough question.

Do you expect me to talk?
No Mr bond I expect you to die.

Why he didn’t just have him shot I’ll never understand

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:59:29pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

Little Green Footballs.

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Jay C  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:59:45pm

re: #67 Belafon

I don’t see why not. I figure the criteria are:
1. Has to be bad.
2. Doesn’t make you sympathize
3. But you stop and watch the movie because of the bad guy.

Someone did pick Hans Gruber.

And at least an Honorable Mention for Alan Rickman as the Sheriff in Costner’s Robin Hood.

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plansbandc  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:59:50pm

re: #134 HappyWarrior

One of the few movies I’ve watched that genuinely scared me. Excellent scary flick.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 6:59:58pm

re: #135 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

Do you expect me to talk?
No Mr bond I expect you to die.

Why he didn’t just have him shot I’ll never understand

He wanted to be dramatic I guess.

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TedStriker  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:00:12pm

re: #135 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

Do you expect me to talk?
No Mr bond I expect you to die.

Why he didn’t just have him shot I’ll never understand

Goldfinger
He’s the man, the man with the Midas touch
A spider’s touch
Such a cold finger
Beckons you to enter his web of sin
But don’t go in

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:00:36pm

re: #139 HappyWarrior

He wanted to be dramatic I guess.

eviloverlord.com

See #7.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:00:59pm

The Omar fauxrage reminds me of when the usual dumbasess got pissy when Obama used the n-word to bring up how the word is used.

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piratedan  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:01:22pm

re: #120 Belafon

this all goes back to Nancy Pelosi, there are multiple battles to be fought on multiple fronts… I believe that she had something of an outline in place but had to wait until folks showed up to determine who to put where to take advantage of their skills,,,

Social Media, we’ve already seen AOC out there taking on the media, the GOP made her a lightening rod and there she is drawing sparks, she gets to say what she wants and draws attention to the GOP hypocrisy and the MSM is towed along in her wake while she brings to light what the GOP would like hidden, taxes, Mitch McConnell etc…

I imagine that she’s been working with each of the committee chairs to bring to light GOP malfeasance on everything from HHS and Treasury to Public Lands and Intelligence.

She’s going to bring up each and every travesty and put these folks thru the hoops…

No ONE will be spared, Ross, DeVos, Nielsen… ALL of them are going to be put thru the wringer, even Chao, Mitchie’s Beard.

All of it will be public, and they will be exposed for their crimes either in conspiracy against the Republic or gross incompetence and corruption.

Nancy is NOT going to fuck around after watching what the GOP did to Obama and what they did under Trump… she got to sit back and watch it all and I bet her and Cummings and Schiff have been collecting receipts and the reckoning for these crimes and abuse is going to be severe.

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plansbandc  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:01:41pm

re: #140 TedStriker

Killer song. The arrangement is art.

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:01:49pm
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TedStriker  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:02:39pm

re: #137 Jay C

And at least an Honorable Mention for Alan Rickman as the Sheriff in Costner’s Robin Hood.

[the Sheriff has said he’ll cut out Robin Hood’s heart with a spoon]
Guy of Gisborne: Why a spoon, cousin? Why not an axe?
Sheriff of Nottingham: Because it’s DULL, you twit. It’ll hurt more.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:02:53pm

I do wish Omar had brought up that Graham’s emails were hacked into.

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William Lewis  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:03:55pm

re: #137 Jay C

And at least an Honorable Mention for Alan Rickman as the Sheriff in Costner’s Robin Hood.

The ONLY reason to watch that POS was his exquisite turn as the Sheriff.

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:04:56pm

re: #143 piratedan

Yep, and I think masterclass AOC’s going to give on how to tweet really is a class on how to get on top of topics in the age of Trump and Twitter.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:05:00pm

Falling way behind from the last thread:

re: #155 Blind Frog Belly White

I saw that and thought, WTF? There are Muslims of every race and ethnicity, for gods sake.

re: #167 Anymouse ??

Well don’cha know? DNA varies by religion. You become a Muslim or a Christian, your DNA suddenly switches to Muslim or Christian DNA.

The only reason conservatives pushing eugenics went underground was the exposure of its logical conclusion at the end of WW2. Conservatives have never given up on the idea of eugenics, and folks like John Tanton’s various immigration groups have simply stoked such things and try to cloak it in science.

Conservatives are trying very hard to grasp all power now - and if they do, their eugenics dreams will be enacted nationwide. There isn’t a major Republican politician anywhere that doesn’t embrace the idea that African-Americans are inherently violent or bad parents, &c.

Conservatism has embraced the paradigm of eugenics ever since early Progressives in the XX Century gave up the idea as unscientific. (Aside, conservatism by its very nature cannot come up with new ideas.)

That requires a guinea pig picture in honour of Aminah:

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:05:27pm

re: #126 FormerDirtDart ????

Two tweets down, this same asshole himself says she didn’t say it.

She neither implicitly or explicitly said anything like that. Lying shits.

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:05:44pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:07:09pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:08:25pm

re: #151 MsJ

Two tweets down, this same asshole himself says she didn’t say it.

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She neither implicitly or explicitly said anything like that. Lying shits.

Okay, let’s humor your idiocy Tom. If she wanted to say or even imply about him being gay, she would have said something about his personal life being a factor, she instead talked about financials and matters related to his campaigns. And once again, it’s not homophobic to suggest someone is being blackmailed for being gay. And your fucking side has no room to cry about homophobia given who Mike Pence fucking is. And you know what, maybe he fucking is being blackmailed because of his sexuality, he certainly has acted awfully fucking strange and I’m glad Representative Omar called attention to it even though people like yo uare too chicken shit to admit it.

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TedStriker  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:09:06pm

re: #148 William Lewis

The ONLY reason to watch that POS was his exquisite turn as the Sheriff.

Costner is a decent enough actor and decent enough behind the camera, but, when he’s acting, he pretty much is just playing some version of himself, so not a lot of range, which really sticks out like a sore thumb in Prince of Thieves.

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ObserverArt  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:09:35pm

Drama!!!

Will Maggue Haberman ask the questions about the legality?

She has a direct in to Trumper.

I heard one of the only reasons Donny looks at The “Fake and Failing” New York Times is to read Maggie’s takes on Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:09:37pm

re: #153 teleskiguy

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Gregg Jarrett will do anything to inflate your sense of persecution. BTW do you agree with Gregg’s suggestion to shut down the FBI because they investigated you even though they also saved your sorry ass from an assassination plot. You’re a disgrace as our country’s President.

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piratedan  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:09:43pm

re: #151 MsJ

or has anyone seen how much money Graham also received from dark Russian sources? could that also be a source of potential blackmail?

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:10:12pm

re: #101 can’t think of a decent username

Darth Vader.

Anton Chigurh

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:10:18pm

re: #155 TedStriker

Costner is a decent enough actor and decent enough behind the camera, but, when he’s acting, he pretty much is just playing some version of himself, so not a lot of range, which really sticks out like a sore thumb in Prince of Thieves.

I always felt he was the king of overacting. The only movie I truly like him a lot in is Field of Dreams. His movies aren’t bad but I always feel they would be better with another lead.

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:10:57pm

re: #150 Anymouse ??

Falling way behind from the last thread:

That requires a guinea pig picture in honour of Aminah:

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Do you have a piggie?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:12:18pm

re: #159 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

Anton Chigurh

Gaere(sp?) in Fargo is underrated IMO.

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William Lewis  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:12:19pm

re: #160 HappyWarrior

I always felt he was the king of overacting. The only movie I truly like him a lot in is Field of Dreams. His movies aren’t bad but I always feel they would be better with another lead.

He does alright in westerns but everything else stinks. I fall asleep on FoD everytime I’ve tried because the baseball premise is just as dull as the game itself.

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jeffreyw  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:13:07pm

re: #107 Belafon

I wouldn’t say it has to be human. I also am not setting the actual criteria. Those were just the ones I chose for me.

The Thing, both work for me with a nod to the latter. Moby Dick.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:13:18pm

I’m against the death penalty. Even for Stephen Miller.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:13:39pm

re: #163 William Lewis

He does alright in westerns but everything else stinks. I fall asleep on FoD everytime I’ve tried because the baseball premise is just as dull as the game itself.

Okay, I know you and I disagree on baseball but try to see FOD as a movie about fathers and sons. You’re right though. He ain’t bad in Westerns.I did like that Hatfields and McCoys miniseries. It wasn’t great by any means but my dad, brothers, and I enjoyed it and learning more about the feud.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:13:40pm
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TedStriker  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:14:33pm

re: #160 HappyWarrior

I always felt he was the king of overacting. The only movie I truly like him a lot in is Field of Dreams. His movies aren’t bad but I always feel they would be better with another lead.

Costnet was great in Field of Dreams, but he was a great choice as Pa Kent in the most recent Superman movies.

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:14:40pm

re: #160 HappyWarrior

I always felt he was the king of overacting. The only movie I truly like him a lot in is Field of Dreams. His movies aren’t bad but I always feel they would be better with another lead.

I liked Dances with Wolves and A Perfect World. But I definitely agree that he’s a certain type of character. I liked him as Pa Kent.

To me, Gary Oldman is a great actor. He can play just about any type of character. His politics bums me out.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:15:01pm

re: #168 TedStriker

Costnet was great in Field of Dreams, but he was a great choice as Pa Kent in the most recent Superman movies.

Yeah he didn’t do too bad in that. He didn’t overact.

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piratedan  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:15:41pm

re: #160 HappyWarrior

there are some roles that are right in his wheelhouse, Bull Durham comes to mind and I also think that his turns in 3000 Miles to Graceland and A Perfect World and Hidden Gigures were pretty decent

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:15:47pm

re: #169 Belafon

I liked Dances with Wolves and A Perfect World. But I definitely agree that he’s a certain type of character. I liked him as Pa Kent.

To me, Gary Oldman is a great actor. He can play just about any type of character. His politics bums me out.

Guys like Oldman I love. I love actors that don’t have a specific identity to them. So as a result, my favorite actors are all character type actors.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:15:54pm

To the amazement and surprise of practically no one.

Louie Gohmert comes to Steve King’s defense

Texas congressman says rebuked Iowa congressman raised a ‘fair question’

GOP Rep. Louie Gohmert of Texas defended his friend and colleague Rep. Steve King on Wednesday, suggesting that King’s comments to The New York Times about “white supremacy,” “white nationalism” and “Western civilization” were misconstrued by the media and lawmakers from both parties.

Republican leaders in the House decided earlier in the week to bar King from serving on any House committees, but the House voted Wednesday to refer a censure resolution to the House Ethics Committee instead of censuring him directly.

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:15:59pm

re: #158 piratedan

or has anyone seen how much money Graham also received from dark Russian sources? could that also be a source of potential blackmail?

Him, McConnell and someone else, I don’t recall (Rubio, maybe), got millions funneled through the NRA and from that Russian in the news… The oligarch everyone is taking about… The one the Republican senators just voted to let slide. My mind isn’t sharp tonight and I’m bad with Russian names to start with.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:16:08pm

re: #137 Jay C

And at least an Honorable Mention for Alan Rickman as the Sheriff in Costner’s Robin Hood.

Why a spoon?

Then again why a duck?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:16:32pm

re: #171 piratedan

there are some roles that are right in his wheelhouse, Bull Durham comes to mind and I also think that his turns in 3000 Miles to Graceland and A Perfect World and Hidden Gigures were pretty decent

I did like A Perfect World which brings me to another observation- Clint directs better than acts. I don’t like the man from what I know about him as a person but he’s great at story telling.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:16:52pm

re: #173 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

To the amazement and surprise of practically no one.

Louie Gohmert comes to Steve King’s defense

Uh huh Louie.

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TedStriker  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:16:56pm

re: #172 HappyWarrior

Guys like Oldman I love. I love actors that don’t have a specific identity to them. So as a result, my favorite actors are all character type actors.

Oldman and Daniel Day Lewis are a rare breed in Hollywood, actors who are complete chameleons in front of the camera.

Whoever you want them to play, they become totally and completely.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:17:42pm

re: #174 MsJ

Him, McConnell and someone else, I don’t recall (Rubio, maybe), got millions funneled through the NRA and from that Russian in the news… The oligarch everyone is taking about… The one the Republican senators just voted to let slide. My mind isn’t sharp tonight and I’m bad with Russian names to start with.

I was surprised Rubio voted on the right side on that one. That right there is why I was so pissed that Bernie abstained. How fucked up are you if you’ show less courage than Marco fucking Rubio?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:18:11pm

re: #178 TedStriker

Oldman and Daniel Day Lewis are a rare breed in Hollywood, actors who are complete chameleons in front of the camera.

Two guys who you can never accuse of “playing themselves” though I TBH hate that phrase.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:19:28pm

Bale is another chameleon.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:19:42pm

re: #3 VegasGolfer

Racist identified.

Time for a censure motion. Betcha the GOP wouldn’t support it.

re: #11 The Vicious Babushka

Why no wall on the “other” border?

Well, that would also be a southern border. We can just build a wall through the Detroit River … surely that wouldn’t affect shipping.

re: #17 piratedan

tbf, I have no problem with the article or the idea behind it, what I kind of have an issue with is that the Dems must do this immediately or else they’re just as bad as the GOP for ignoring the problem without any nod or recognition of just how an immediate response of impeachment will be played out in the media (as in I fully expect the media to equate this as being personal about Trump versus all of the illegal shit he’s already pulled). I fully believe that the Dems will indeed offer articles of impeachment (its not as if they’re lacking any ammunition) but I also understand that they want the government to be back in business first because as much as we need to have Trump impeached (as well as members of his administration), Congress also needs to have the government up and running for the good of the country, and that needs to be addressed first (imho).

The Democratic Party has been harping on the GOP abandoning its constitutional duties ever since Mitch McConnell held up Merrick Garland’s nomination to the Supreme Court.

The Constitution is clear: If the evidence warrants it, an impeachment hearing is the constitutional duty of the House. Set up the special committee and review the evidence. (That committee could also return a “no bill” on impeachment.)

If we don’t uphold all the parts of the Constitution, how are we any cleaner than the GOP and Trump’s emoluments violations (themselves enough to remove him)?

(more in the next comment, still catching up)

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gwangung  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:20:12pm

re: #180 HappyWarrior

Two guys who you can never accuse of “playing themselves” though I TBH hate that phrase.

Yeah, definitely; that relies on knowing what they are when they’re off the job, which is irrelevant on how well they did that job.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:20:29pm

Harvey Korman as Headley Lamarr in Blazing Saddles

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TedStriker  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:21:37pm

re: #181 HappyWarrior

Bale is another chameleon.

So was Heath Ledger, particularly as the Joker opposite Bale in The Dark Knight, but all of the stress he put himself under getting and staying in the role ended up contributing to his OD death.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:21:42pm

re: #183 gwangung

Yeah, definitely; that relies on knowing what they are when they’re off the job, which is irrelevant on how well they did that job.

Correct. I mean if you want to say something like their characters even when they’re completely different always seem to be somewhat similiar, I think it would be more apt but that phrase has always bugged me. Other than Costner, I’m trying to think who that gets applied to.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:22:17pm

re: #184 The Vicious Babushka

Harvey Korman as Headley Lamarr in Blazing Saddles

That’s Hedley!

That’s Hedley!

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jeffreyw  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:22:43pm

Tom Berenger in Platoon

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:23:14pm

re: #167 Charles Johnson

Melania flew to Mar-a-Lago today. He’s alone for the weekend. Expect him to be in rare form.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:23:16pm

re: #185 TedStriker

So was Heath Ledger, particularly as the Joker opposite Bale in The Dark Knight, but all of the stress he put himself under getting and staying in the role ended up contributing to his OD death.

Yeah I was really impressed with how he went from being a teen idol in Ten Things I Hate About To You to what he was doing towards the end. It’s a shame what happened because he was showing that he had so much range.

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plansbandc  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:23:32pm

re: #171 piratedan

He’s good in Tin Cup too.

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TedStriker  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:23:34pm

re: #184 The Vicious Babushka

Harvey Korman as Headley Lamarr in Blazing Saddles

“Hedy..”

“That’s Hedley!”

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ObserverArt  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:23:44pm

re: #171 piratedan

there are some roles that are right in his wheelhouse, Bull Durham comes to mind and I also think that his turns in 3000 Miles to Graceland and A Perfect World and Hidden Gigures were pretty decent

He got to do a “Jimmy Stewart” job in Tin Cup. I got the feeling he didn’t have to act too much in that one. Not a great movie, but fun. And I don’t even play golf.

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piratedan  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:23:59pm

seems to me that if Trump wants to stop being the focus, all he has to do is Blame Mitch McConnell for not resending him the Bills that he previously rejected due to “bad advice”….

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:23:59pm

Ah Jack Nicholson is a name I see get accused of that and I guess I see that because while I like Jack, his characters don’t seem to be as in depth as I’d personally like but he is good.

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:24:07pm

And on the women’s side, we have Meryl Streep, Helena Bonham Carter, Emma Thompson, and Amy Adams as actors that can play different roles.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:25:31pm

re: #196 Belafon

And on the women’s side, we have Meryl Streep, Helena Bonham Carter, Emma Thompson, and Amy Adams as actors that can play different roles.

Rachel McAdams is pretty versatile too. I never saw Mean Girls but from what I understand, her character was nasty in it but I had such a crush on her in Wedding Crashers. Not only was her character beautiful but she was a lovely person too.

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piratedan  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:25:49pm

re: #196 Belafon

i would even include Sandra Bullock in that list

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ObserverArt  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:26:58pm

re: #174 MsJ

Him, McConnell and someone else, I don’t recall (Rubio, maybe), got millions funneled through the NRA and from that Russian in the news… The oligarch everyone is taking about… The one the Republican senators just voted to let slide. My mind isn’t sharp tonight and I’m bad with Russian names to start with.

Yes, Rubio was in this article.

Dallas News - How Putin’s oligarchs funneled millions into GOP campaigns

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:27:29pm

Kathy Bates as Annie Wilkes in Misery.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:28:08pm

re: #199 ObserverArt

Yes, Rubio was in this article.

Dallas News - How Putin’s oligarchs funneled millions into GOP campaigns

Rubio while far from the Senate’s biggest RWNJs is one of my personal least favorites because it’s clear this job is only a resume builder for him and I hate how smug he is for someone so mediocre. The GOP higher ups clearly saw him as their version of Obama which he isn’t and will never be.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:28:25pm

re: #164 jeffreyw

The Thing, both work for me with a nod to the latter. Moby Dick.

Imo Moby dick wasnt a villian
He was hunted
Minding his own business

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:28:53pm

re: #200 The Vicious Babushka

Kathy Bates as Annie Wilkes in Misery.

Another great chameleon. Kathy can make you hate or even fear her like in Misery but other times you wish she was your mom, aunt, or grandmother. I usually get a good feeling about a movie if I know Kathy’s in it. And then there’s sometimes where she’s wonderfully two faced, her character in Revolutionary Road, based on one of my favorite novels and a very underrated movie IMO was great.

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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:29:11pm
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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:30:48pm

re: #200 The Vicious Babushka

Kathy Bates as Annie Wilkes in Misery.

She had me, and about a dozen of my fellow hardasses squirming in our seats.

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ObserverArt  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:30:48pm

re: #196 Belafon

And on the women’s side, we have Meryl Streep, Helena Bonham Carter, Emma Thompson, and Amy Adams as actors that can play different roles.

I loved Helena Bonham Carter in Fight Club. What a character.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:31:03pm

re: #178 TedStriker

Oldman and Daniel Day Lewis are a rare breed in Hollywood, actors who are complete chameleons in front of the camera.

Whoever you want them to play, they become totally and completely.

His Churchill was great

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Chrysicat  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:31:50pm

re: #71 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

Tom Cruise in Collateral is a pretty good villain

Well, that’s because it’s barely acting, since Cruise is such a villain in real life :-P

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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:31:52pm

re: #200 The Vicious Babushka

Kathy Bates as Annie Wilkes in Misery.

The hobbling scene still gives me chills.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:32:02pm

Rosamund Pike as Amy in Gone Girl.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:32:02pm

re: #207 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

His Churchill was great

I knew it was him going in but I didn’t know it was him if you know what I mean. He didn’t do a caricature, he did a person. His politics are awful but there’s no denying Oldman’s talents.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:32:06pm

re: #184 The Vicious Babushka

Harvey Korman as Headley Lamarr in Blazing Saddles

That’s Hedley

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:32:36pm

re: #187 HappyWarrior

That’s Hedley!

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Gmta

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jeffreyw  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:32:42pm

re: #202 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

Imo Moby dick wasnt a villian
He was hunted
Minding his own business

OK, I’ll agree to that.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:34:00pm

Underrated but the bear in the movie The Edge. I remember watching that movie with my dad and one of his friends on a cold winter’s night. Very underrated movie. Baldwin and Anthony Hopkins.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:34:23pm

re: #208 Chrysicat

Well, that’s because it’s barely acting, since Cruise is such a villain in real life :-P

Let’s be fair to Tom Cruise. He may be the great champion of Xenu and all, but he’s actually a real-life badass. He’s rescued multiple people from dangerous car accidents.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:34:58pm

Oh another comic book adaption but I found DeVito’s Penguin unbelievably creepy as a kid. I haven’t seen Batman Returns in years so I don’t know how it holds up now but DeVito legitimately crept me out.

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:35:18pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:36:00pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:36:23pm

Also, I’m surprised no one has mentioned this one, but the shark from Jaws. I saw that movie when I was young, and the shark’s arrival left an unmistakable impression. Although I wonder how much of that was in conjunction with John Williams’s simplistic but brilliant theme.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:36:57pm

re: #218 FormerDirtDart ????

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That would be the same MLK holiday that he had to be pressured into signing. Really lame shit to try to profit off of it. Like be proud that he signed it and acknowledge it as such but trying to profit off of it is obscene especially given Reagan’s Civil Rights record which sucked.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:37:49pm

You ever wonder about the kind of things Republicans say about Nancy Pelosi behind closed doors?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:38:17pm

re: #222 Eclectic Cyborg

You ever wonder about the kind of things Republicans say about Nancy Pelosi behind closed doors?

No. And I’m happier for not knowing.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:38:20pm

re: #219 The Vicious Babushka

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I’m going to read a couple of slave memoirs when I do my Civil War reading unit.

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:38:29pm

UH OH!

Lawrence reading a report that Trump ordered lawyers to lie about his meeting with Russia. Oh and the kids are involved, too!

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retired cynic  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:38:41pm

re: #222 Eclectic Cyborg

You ever wonder about the kind of things Republicans say about Nancy Pelosi behind closed doors?

I try not.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:38:48pm

re: #20 plansbandc

There are many many stupid people in this country. Do they even teach Civics anymore?

Not for the most part. Conservatives in defunding education over decades targeted civics courses intentionally. (When I was in high school it was called Government, but the same thing.)

They need voters who do not understand how government works to get voters to vote for them.

As part of a Democratic government, I would offer up funding to every school district to pay for civics courses in every school.

re: #53 ObserverArt

Public school?

I was in 1-12 from 1960 to 1972 and we had history, civics and government. College-prep Catholic education.

I went to public schools (segregated public schools in Maryland for K-2, public schools in Michigan 2-12, except public school in Brazil in 11, 1965-1978). All along the way age-appropriate education about civic and government was offered, up until Government class in grade 12. (I had to take American History as a senior - normally required as a junior in Michigan -because they don’t offer American History in Brazil.)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:38:49pm

re: #222 Eclectic Cyborg

You ever wonder about the kind of things Republicans say about Nancy Pelosi behind closed doors?

Nah because I know what people like that consider “boys talk.”

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:38:56pm

re: #207 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

His Churchill was great

I could list Zorg from the Fifth Element as another great villain. The fact that he was Zorg, Sirius Black, the slimy senator in The Contender, and Churchill really shows his range.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:39:14pm

re: #225 Joe Bacon ??

UH OH!

Lawrence reading a report that Trump ordered lawyers to lie about his meeting with Russia. Oh and the kids are involved, too!

This isn’t going to end well for him or the kids.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:39:48pm

re: #225 Joe Bacon ??

UH OH!

Lawrence reading a report that Trump ordered lawyers to lie about his meeting with Russia. Oh and the kids are involved, too!

OH SHIT.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:39:50pm

re: #229 Belafon

I could list Zorg from the Fifth Element as another great villain. The fact that he was Zorg, Sirius Black, the slimy senator in The Contender, and Churchill really shows his range.

The drug dealer in True Romance being the same guy who played Churchill in Finest Actor. That’s a mind fuck.

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:40:11pm

re: #230 HappyWarrior

This isn’t going to end well for him or the kids.

????????????

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:40:20pm

For those of you into it, the John Wick, Chapter 3 trailer is out:

John Wick: Chapter 3 - Parabellum (2019 Movie) Official Trailer – Keanu Reeves, Halle Berry

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:40:58pm

re: #227 Anymouse ??

Not for the most part. Conservatives in defunding education over decades targeted civics courses intentionally. (When I was in high school it was called Government, but the same thing.)

They need voters who do not understand how government works to get voters to vote for them.

As part of a Democratic government, I would offer up funding to every school district to pay for civics courses in every school.

I went to public schools (segregated public schools in Maryland for K-2, public schools in Michigan 2-12, except public school in Brazil in 11, 1965-1978). All along the way age-appropriate education about civic and government was offered, up until Government class in grade 12. (I had to take American History as a senior - normally required as a junior in Michigan -because they don’t offer American History in Brazil.)

Government which most kids take is pretty much Civics but more advanced.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:41:18pm

re: #233 MsJ

????????????

From your emoticons to the grand jury!

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:41:36pm

re: #209 teleskiguy

The hobbling scene still gives me chills.

I am watching James caan in killer elite right now

Shot n the knee and elbow by Robert Duvall
Not quite a hobble though he is limping around with a cane

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:42:17pm

Kids here are taking government in 12th grade though. Funnily enough, my brother high school senior brought up the Terminello case which I learned about at the same age. It’s not as famous as Skokie or Tinker vs Des Moines but it is a reasonably famous free peach case.

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:42:33pm

Well, I just finished working my tax returns.

Wow, I paid $98 less in Federal Income tax…and my refund is cut by 40%

Wow, I got less than $2 a week from the Trump Tax Cut…

Now I wonder how many folks are going to get pissed off when they work their tax returns…

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plansbandc  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:42:51pm

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:43:30pm

re: #217 HappyWarrior

Oh another comic book adaption but I found DeVito’s Penguin unbelievably creepy as a kid. I haven’t seen Batman Returns in years so I don’t know how it holds up now but DeVito legitimately crept me out.

It was quite a left turn from Burgess Meredith

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:43:38pm

Yes, that William Barr

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The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:43:43pm

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ObserverArt  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:44:10pm

re: #225 Joe Bacon ??

UH OH!

Lawrence reading a report that Trump ordered lawyers to lie about his meeting with Russia. Oh and the kids are involved, too!

I’ve got that on too.

Tomorrow is Friday.

Trump is getting hammered and now this.

Popcorn at the ready.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:44:12pm

re: #237 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

I am watching James caan in killer elite right now

Shot n the knee and elbow by Robert Duvall
Not quite a hobble though he is limping around with a cane

Speaking of Caan. I used to think his portrayal of Sonny was probably the weak link of the four Corleone brothers but Sonny now that I look at him is a really fascinating character. Yes, he’s a hot head but he loves his family. Yes, he cheats on his wife and even fathers a kid out of wedlock but he does love his family and it gets him killed in the end. There is no weak link is the lesson I learned I guess since Pacino, Duvall, Caan, and the late and missed John Cazale were all great.

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:44:14pm

My heart bleeds

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Anymouse ??  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:44:36pm

re: #67 Belafon

I don’t see why not. I figure the criteria are:
1. Has to be bad.
2. Doesn’t make you sympathize
3. But you stop and watch the movie because of the bad guy.

Someone did pick Hans Gruber.

Darth Vader in the Star Wars series
Seigfreid in KAOS in “Get Smart”

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:45:18pm

re: #220 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Also, I’m surprised no one has mentioned this one, but the shark from Jaws. I saw that movie when I was young, and the shark’s arrival left an unmistakable impression. Although I wonder how much of that was in conjunction with John Williams’s simplistic but brilliant theme.

I’m surprised no one’s mentioned Mitch McConnell

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:45:21pm

re: #240 plansbandc

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I like being a liberal. It means I can say with pretty good certanity that I’ve been on the right side of the issues that the country has faced over the years. I wouldn’t feel pride in being a conservative knowing how much conservatives have gotten wrong and continue to get wrong.

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:46:06pm

re: #248 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

I’m surprised no one’s mentioned Mitch McConnell

That was my pick.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:46:11pm

re: #241 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

It was quite a left turn from Burgess Meredith

I’m not familiar with his portrayal.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:46:42pm

re: #246 MsJ

My heart bleeds

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Is that an Amway wheelchair?

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:46:53pm

Once again—Trump told Cohen to lie to Congress…

THIS IS AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE!

NOW WHAT THE FUCK WILL GIULIANI SAY ABOUT THIS?

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TedStriker  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:48:04pm

re: #220 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Also, I’m surprised no one has mentioned this one, but the shark from Jaws. I saw that movie when I was young, and the shark’s arrival left an unmistakable impression. Although I wonder how much of that was in conjunction with John Williams’s simplistic but brilliant theme.

Jaws: The U.S.S. Indianapolis Speech

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:48:27pm

re: #239 Joe Bacon ??

Well, I just finished working my tax returns.

Wow, I paid $98 less in Federal Income tax…and my refund is cut by 40%

Wow, I got less than $2 a week from the Trump Tax Cut…

Now I wonder how many folks are going to get pissed off when they work their tax returns…

Regular folks, all of them Katie
Rich ones, not so much

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:48:27pm

re: #253 Joe Bacon ??

Once again—Trump told Cohen to lie to Congress…

THIS IS AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE!

NOW WHAT THE FUCK WILL GIULIANI SAY ABOUT THIS?

He’ll have an excuse.

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VegasGolfer  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:48:57pm

re: #246 MsJ

Didn’t John Kerry get ridiculed by the right for having a bike accident?
She gets no sympathy from me.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:49:33pm

And yeah I concede there is a certain smugness to saying you’re on the right side of historical issues but it’s no more smug than conservatives who act like they’re the only moral people.

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Mattand  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:49:49pm

re: #225 Joe Bacon ??

UH OH!

Lawrence reading a report that Trump ordered lawyers to lie about his meeting with Russia. Oh and the kids are involved, too!

Was watching Lawerence O’Donnell when that just broke.

God, I want to see all of these motherfuckers in jail.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:49:57pm

re: #257 VegasGolfer

Didn’t John Kerry get ridiculed by the right for having a bike accident?
She gets no sympathy from me.

Yes and also for getting Purple Hearts.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:50:16pm

Lee J Cobb, On the Waterfront

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:50:28pm

re: #225 Joe Bacon ??

UH OH!

Lawrence reading a report that Trump ordered lawyers to lie about his meeting with Russia. Oh and the kids are involved, too!

Well fffffff…. oh shit.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:51:13pm

re: #261 Decatur Deb

Lee J Cobb, On the Waterfront

He also was great in 12 Angry Men.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:51:58pm

So OT:

I’ve started a new book and it’s the most challenging project I’ve taken on so far. It’s a historical fiction novel that follows a number of characters, including Mohammed Atta, on September 10th, 2001.

It’s still in the early stages but I was hoping one or
more of you might be willing to give me some feedback on it when the time comes. Anyone interested?

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Mattand  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:52:38pm

LOL, O’Donnell is re-playing Barr’s testimony where he’s basically saying what’s in the Buzzfeed article is illegal.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:53:08pm

re: #253 Joe Bacon ??

Once again—Trump told Cohen to lie to Congress…

THIS IS AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE!

NOW WHAT THE FUCK WILL GIULIANI SAY ABOUT THIS?

“It’s okay, he told them to lie, but he himself didn’t lie!!! Noun-verb-9/11!”

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Mattand  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:53:32pm

If you’re commenting on this thread, you better get your stuff in now. Based on the Buzzfeed article, I’m betting Charles is starting a new post any second now.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:54:20pm

re: #264 Eclectic Cyborg

So OT:

I’ve started a new book and it’s the most challenging project I’ve taken on so far. It’s a historical fiction novel that follows a number of characters, including Mohammed Atta, on September 10th, 2001.

It’s still in the early stages but I was hoping one or
more of you might be willing to give me some feedback on it when the time comes. Anyone interested?

Sounds interesting. It also would be tough because I’m sure readers would prefer people like Atta be dehumanized but that doesn’t make for a compelling story. Knowing little about him and the other hijackers, I can’t really comment but I would certainly read such a novel. I would find it more interesting than a novel say about a NYPD member, US government official, or passenger or airline employee or Pentagon or WTC employee on that day.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:54:24pm

re: #265 Mattand

LOL, O’Donnell is re-playing Barr’s testimony where he’s basically saying what’s in the Buzzfeed article is illegal.

If tRump withdraws his nomination before he’s confirmed, that’ll be…well, I don’t quite know what it would be. Everybody would know why.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:55:34pm

re: #267 Mattand

If you’re commenting on this thread, you better get your stuff in now. Based on the Buzzfeed article, I’m betting Charles is starting a new post any second now.

it’s the supermarket sweep portion of the thread heheh

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piratedan  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:55:57pm

re: #261 Decatur Deb

and even as exceptional in 12 Angry Men

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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:56:18pm

Fuckface Von Clownstick’s Twitter feed ought to be a real

this weekend. Luckily I’ll be working at the ski area, I won’t be getting the black smoke in real time.

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:56:35pm

re: #253 Joe Bacon ??

Once again—Trump told Cohen to lie to Congress…

THIS IS AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE!

NOW WHAT THE FUCK WILL GIULIANI SAY ABOUT THIS?

He’ll say Cohen is known to be a lair, and he’s lying about this.
Why are you yelling?

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:57:13pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:57:14pm

re: #271 piratedan

and even as exceptional in 12 Angry Men

One of my favorite movies. Its genius IMO is in how limited it is but Lumet told a great story and I believe this was his debut.

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Mattand  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:58:55pm

re: #274 goddamnedfrank

LOL, I was just getting ready to share this.

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piratedan  Jan 17, 2019 • 7:59:47pm

re: #275 HappyWarrior

yes, recruited from the stage by Henry Fonda who owned the rights and wanted this movie made…. the cast is stellar, a true ensemble piece that should be shown in every civics class in the US

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:00:55pm

re: #251 HappyWarrior

I’m not familiar with his portrayal.

Adam West tv Batman
Wednesday and Thursday nights
Wednesday he’d get caught and put in a trap of death
Thursday he’d get out
It was all camp
Burgess Meredith the penguin
Cesar Romero the joker
Frank gorshon the Riddler
Victor buono King Tut
Julie newmar cat woman
David wayne the mad hatter

Mr freeze otto preminger and Eli wallach
Clock king Walter slezak
That’s from memory
I’m sure I missed a few

Also if we’re talking favorite villians, Eli wallach as calvera in magnificent seven

And totally separate Robert Shaw in the taking of Pelham 1 2 3
Ice cold he was

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:01:56pm

re: #277 piratedan

yes, recruited from the stage by Henry Fonda who owned the rights and wanted this movie made…. the cast is stellar, a true ensemble piece that should be shown in every civics class in the US

We saw it in my 12th grade government class and then i saw it again when I got my paralegal certificate. It’s stayed with me. Another great Fonda legal movie was his TV movie Gideon’s Trumpet. Not as great as 12 Angry Men but this one was based on a true story and focused on another important principle.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:02:19pm

re: #278 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

Adam West tv Batman
Wednesday and Thursday nights
Wednesday he’d get caught and put in a trap of death
Thursday he’d get out
It was all camp
Burgess Meredith the penguin
Cesar Romero the joker
Frank gorshon the Riddler
Victor buono King Tut
Julie newmar cat woman
David wayne the mad hatter

Mr freeze otto preminger and Eli wallach
Clock king Walter slezak
That’s from memory
I’m sure I missed a few

Also if we’re talking favorite villians, Eli wallach as calvera in magnificent seven

And totally separate Robert Shaw in the taking of Pelham 1 2 3
Ice cold he was

No, I know when it was, I just don’t know how it compares.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:02:23pm

Organizer of the Wall Gofundme scam claims that $7,000,000 of the donated money has been converted to his non-profit by donors opting-in. That’s only from the original 20 million. Donations since the change are automatically opted-in.

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The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:02:34pm

re: #278 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

Vincent Price as Egghead
Eartha Kitt as Catwoman

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:02:38pm
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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:03:39pm

re: #274 goddamnedfrank

No shit.

I may need a grin-ectomy right now to remove the big-ass smile off of my face.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:03:50pm

I have a silly habit of hypothetically casting people in my family lol. I always saw my father’s father as Fonda. My mom’s father could be Dan Lauria, Jack Arnold from The Wonder Years but he also could be a more kind hearted Clint Eastwood lol.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:03:50pm

re: #278 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

Adam West tv Batman
Wednesday and Thursday nights
Wednesday he’d get caught and put in a trap of death
Thursday he’d get out
It was all camp
Burgess Meredith the penguin
Cesar Romero the joker
Frank gorshon the Riddler
Victor buono King Tut
Julie newmar cat woman
David wayne the mad hatter

Mr freeze otto preminger and Eli wallach
Clock king Walter slezak
That’s from memory
I’m sure I missed a few

Also if we’re talking favorite villians, Eli wallach as calvera in magnificent seven

And totally separate Robert Shaw in the taking of Pelham 1 2 3
Ice cold he was

Eli Wallach was too likeable to be a bad villain. Great role, though.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:03:59pm

re: #254 TedStriker

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The brilliant thing about jaws was the shark doesn’t appear on screen till over an hour in and is on screen totally I think less than 2 minutes

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:04:09pm

re: #273 FormerDirtDart ????

He’ll say Cohen is known to be a lair, and he’s lying about this.
Why are you yelling?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:04:35pm

re: #288 FormerDirtDart ????

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And we should believe you, Rudy, why?

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:04:52pm

re: #252 Myron Falwell

Is that an Amway wheelchair?

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:05:46pm

re: #262 Myron Falwell

Well fffffff…. oh shit.

More like ????????????????????????????????

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TedStriker  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:05:52pm

re: #282 The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery

Vincent Price as Egghead
Julie Newmar (seasons 1 & 2), Lee Meriweather (the movie) and Eartha Kitt (season 3) as Catwoman

FTFY…

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teleskiguy  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:06:04pm

He’s not wrong.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:06:51pm

re: #288 FormerDirtDart ????

“…after Rudy said this, his eyes literally popped out of his skull and his dentures flew out of his mouth simultaneously, oh, and he was struck by lightening”

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Decatur Deb  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:07:09pm

Tony Perkins was just a gentle boy who loved his mother.

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:07:13pm
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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:07:18pm

re: #269 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If tRump withdraws his nomination before he’s confirmed, that’ll be…well, I don’t quite know what it would be. Everybody would know why.

Barr will twist his prior statements accordingly.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:07:25pm

re: #278 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

Adam West tv Batman
Wednesday and Thursday nights
Wednesday he’d get caught and put in a trap of death
Thursday he’d get out
It was all camp
Burgess Meredith the penguin
Cesar Romero the joker
Frank gorshon the Riddler
Victor buono King Tut
Julie newmar cat woman
David wayne the mad hatter

Mr freeze otto preminger and Eli wallach
Clock king Walter slezak
That’s from memory
I’m sure I missed a few

Also if we’re talking favorite villians, Eli wallach as calvera in magnificent seven

And totally separate Robert Shaw in the taking of Pelham 1 2 3
Ice cold he was

Wasn’t Lee Meriwether Catwoman in the TV show? I thought Julie Newmar was just in the movie.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:07:30pm

re: #293 teleskiguy

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He’s not wrong.

There will be rage tweeting and FNC specials on Benghazi and butter emails.

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William Lewis  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:07:42pm

re: #264 Eclectic Cyborg

Keep me in mind.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:07:44pm

re: #282 The Ghost of Kung Fu Treachery

Vincent Price as Egghead
Eartha Kitt as Catwoman

Right…..

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Mattand  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:08:45pm

If this is finally the tipping point, I’m really glad to be hanging out with this group when the news broke.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:08:45pm

re: #291 MsJ

More like ????????????????????????????????

I was waiting for this day to come, oh my gawdddddddddd

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gwangung  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:08:58pm

re: #298 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Wasn’t Lee Meriwether Catwoman in the TV show? I though Julie Newmar was just in the movie.

No, other way around.

Still, all of them were pretty gorgeous women.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:09:08pm

re: #161 MsJ

Do you have a piggie?

I used to have a whole bunch of them. Their pen was a wading pool (that allowed them to jump out and run around the room they were in, though only two of them did). My roommates’ cat would jump into the wading pool to snuggle up to guinea pigs for warmth.

I entered a “cute pet” picture contest once in Liberty, Mo. at the feed store of one of my guinea pigs (came in as second place). Any time I was in front of my computer I would set a cup of coffee on the floor (I don’t put liquids around my computers).

She would jump out of the wading pool and run across the room, climb up the side of the cup, and start lapping black coffee.

I last had guinea pigs in Oklahoma, where Felix Strangelet Randomkitty would also play with the pigs and cuddle up to them.

I haven’t had a guinea pig in several years, but would like to have them.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:09:42pm

re: #286 Decatur Deb

Eli Wallach was to likeable to be a bad villain. Great role, though.

That’s why I said favorite. Calvera was some evil but mostly…greedy?

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piratedan  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:09:49pm

re: #279 HappyWarrior

he has another great turn in The Oxbow Incident, he could play the everyman even better than Hanks did, roles like Fail Safe and Advise and Consent and The Wrong Man, he had a great feel for movies with a conscience.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:10:52pm

re: #293 teleskiguy

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He’s not wrong.

LOL XD

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:11:21pm

re: #295 Decatur Deb

Tony Perkins was just a gentle boy who loved his mother.

James caan in eraser was pretty freaking evil

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Mattand  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:11:47pm

Do you think someone is going to wake Trump up now and break the bad news?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:11:49pm

re: #307 piratedan

he has another great turn in The Oxbow Incident, he could play the everyman even better than Hanks did, roles like Fail Safe and Advise and Consent and The Wrong Man, he had a great feel for movies with a conscience.

Yeah Hanks is often compared to Jimmy Stewart but I think Fonda is a better comparison. Not that I don’t like Jimmy Stewart and I think the comparison is a good one but I think Fonda:Hanks works better and their politics are similar too. Jimmy Stewart, great actor, a patriot , and a great guy from what I know but right wing unfortunately. I do respect him more than John Wayne that said.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:11:50pm

re: #306 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

That’s why I said favorite. Calvera was some evil but mostly…greedy?

He was a master of the management of inadequate resources.

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Belafon  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:11:51pm

I may have to take a vacation day sitting at work tomorrow just so I don’t screw over the company.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:12:51pm

re: #304 gwangung

No, other way around.

Still, all of them were pretty gorgeous women.

And those catsuits!!!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:13:00pm

re: #304 gwangung

No, other way around.

Still, all of them were pretty gorgeous women.

Lee was the main reason for watching Time Tunnel. And that was with her hair in a bun wearing a lab coat.

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ObserverArt  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:13:20pm

re: #275 HappyWarrior

One of my favorite movies. Its genius IMO is in how limited it is but Lumet told a great story and I believe this was his debut.

It’s basically a stage play in the way it was originally composed and then did actually become a good play. That is why with great acting it holds up.

Like Death of a Salesman, the TV version with Dustin Hoffman.

Limited acting in a tight timeline format makes for some great film.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:13:51pm

re: #293 teleskiguy

He’s not wrong.

Trump’s meltdown tomorrow is going to be the single worst temper tantrum in the history of ever. What do you want to bet he calls a national emergency tomorrow to try and get this off the news?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:14:46pm

re: #307 piratedan

he has another great turn in The Oxbow Incident, he could play the everyman even better than Hanks did, roles like Fail Safe and Advise and Consent and The Wrong Man, he had a great feel for movies with a conscience.

The Male Animal still stands up, too.

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gwangung  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:14:54pm

re: #315 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Lee was the main reason for watching Time Tunnel. And that was with her hair in a bun wearing a lab coat.

Um. Yes. Very much yes.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:15:04pm

re: #316 ObserverArt

It’s basically a stage play in the way it was originally composed and then did actually become a good play. That is why with great acting it holds up.

Like Death of a Salesman, the TV version with Dustin Hoffman.

Limited acting in a tight timeline format makes for some great film.

Right, I didn’t know it had been a play to much later but that does explain it. I loved Fonda’s character but my two favorite characters were probably the old man and the immigrant. Also a special nod to the juror who like me was an Orioles fan much to Jack Warden’s juror’s condescending dismissal. They were all great though. I’d like to see the remake with George C. Scott.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:15:06pm

I finally got around to watching Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse this afternoon and it was really damned good. Highly recommend.

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Myron Falwell  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:15:29pm

re: #310 Mattand

Do you think someone is going to wake Trump up now and break the bad news?

Well, it’s definitely not Melania, she fled for Mar-a-Lago a few hours ago.

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De Kolta Chair  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:16:09pm

I believe that it is time we all admit what we’ve all suspected all along: the mastermind behind all this is Barron Trump. Or Prince Philip, I get them confused.

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retired cynic  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:16:59pm

re: #322 Myron Falwell

Well, it’s definitely not Melania, she fled for Mar-a-Lago a few hours ago.

Somebody gave her the head’s up.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:17:17pm

re: #323 De Kolta Chair

I believe that it is time we all admit what we’ve all suspected all along: the mastermind behind all this is Barron Trump. Or Prince Philip, I get them confused.

Donald did say that Barron knows Cyber! And no I’m not mocking Barron Trump. I’m mocking his father who also thinks Rudy Giuliani is an internet security expert when Rudy’s Twitter password is probably AmericasMayor911.

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piratedan  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:17:52pm

re: #320 HappyWarrior

that juror was played by Jack Klugman (Quincy!) but with guys like Simon Oakland, Martin Balsam, John Fielder, Ed Begley, Jack Weston and Robert Webber (I mean who do you think Mad Men used as the model for their Ad Man?) and with everyone getting lines and able to BE those people, its simply friggen awesome.

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ObserverArt  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:18:23pm

re: #287 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

The brilliant thing about jaws was the shark doesn’t appear on screen till over an hour in and is on screen totally I think less than 2 minutes

Right out of the Hitchcock suspense movie manual. The best kind.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:18:37pm

re: #323 De Kolta Chair

I believe that it is time we all admit what we’ve all suspected all along: the mastermind behind all this is Barron Trump. Or Prince Philip, I get them confused.

The master plan for this entire administration could only come from the genius of CCJ.

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Anymouse ??  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:19:13pm

re: #235 HappyWarrior

Government which most kids take is pretty much Civics but more advanced.

I don’t know if that was true or not in my school in 1978. We did have a bunch of roundtable discussions on things.

My teacher was a RWNJ and I was already on the rose-toting left.

At the end of the year, he noted to the class I was the first person he’d ever given an “A” grade to. (I don’t know if that’s true or not, but I was flummoxed at the time.)

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William Lewis  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:19:16pm

re: #321 goddamnedfrank

I finally got around to watching Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse this afternoon and it was really damned good. Highly recommend.

It was easily the best movie I saw last year. Just an amazing movie that was not a superhero movie but a comic book as a movie yet without the slightest bit of camp.

Anyone can wear the mask. A lesson.

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:19:26pm

re: #286 Decatur Deb

I got to talk to Frank Gorshin about why he didn’t come back to play the Riddler in the second season and he said he was paid less than Burgess Meredith and Caesar Romero. Dozier begged him to come back in the third season and Gorshin said he would only do one episode and he had to be paid double what Meredith and Romero got.

He said it was a pain in the CENSORED doing the original movie because Voyage to The Bottom Of The Sea was in production at the same time and they only got to use the redressed Seaview set when the Voyage crew finished up.

Julie Newmar came to the Razzies. I asked her about Batman and she said she and Gorshin were paid less that Burgess and Caesar. She said she made a lot more money shooting Mackenna’s Gold.

Malachi Throne was False Face. When he was paid only $2,500 and he found out Myrna Fahey got $25,000 he was so pissed off he demanded that his name be taken off of the credits so that’s why he was billed as “?”. He loved the controversy that caused because people couldn’t figure out he was False Face. Even fellow actors couldn’t figure out who False Face was and he was right there working with them. He got a big kick when folks guessed False Face was…FRANK SINATRA!!!!!

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:21:30pm

re: #315 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Lee was the main reason for watching Time Tunnel. And that was with her hair in a bun wearing a lab coat.

I loved Time Tunnel. We got a color TV set 2 days before, the first color show I saw on it was the premiere of Star Trek, thought it was cool, but the next night premiered The Green Hornet and Time Tunnel. Man I thought the Tunnel was cool!

And Irwin Allen almost cast Barbara Bain instead of Lee…

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MsJ  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:22:05pm

re: #293 teleskiguy

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He’s not wrong.

*Applicable any day ending in Y. Talk with your doctor before the next tweet storm otherwise you will likely get an erection that lasts more than 4 hours. Thoughts and prayers not applicable in LA, MS or TX.

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Mattand  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:23:41pm

re: #331 Joe Bacon ??

Geez, what kind of gig were you doing that you got to talk to those folks??

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gocart mozart  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:43:40pm

A sentence I never thought I would have to write.

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sagehen  Jan 17, 2019 • 8:58:38pm

re: #285 HappyWarrior

I have a silly habit of hypothetically casting people in my family lol. I always saw my father’s father as Fonda. My mom’s father could be Dan Lauria, Jack Arnold from The Wonder Years but he also could be a more kind hearted Clint Eastwood lol.

I cast Abe Vigoda and Nancy Walker as my mom’s parents.

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CleverToad  Jan 17, 2019 • 9:24:21pm

re: #264 Eclectic Cyborg

So OT:

I’ve started a new book and it’s the most challenging project I’ve taken on so far. It’s a historical fiction novel that follows a number of characters, including Mohammed Atta, on September 10th, 2001.

It’s still in the early stages but I was hoping one or
more of you might be willing to give me some feedback on it when the time comes. Anyone interested?

Cannot claim any expertise on the subject matter, but could provide basic beta on characters, coherence, dialogue etc. Sounds interesting!


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