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“Lullabye (Goodnight, My Angel)” by Tommy Emmanuel and John Knowles appears on their album ‘Heart Songs.’

Written by Billy Joel

Directed and Filmed by TrueFire

Label: CGP Sounds/Thirty Tigers

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369 comments

1
Joe Bacon ??  Jan 20, 2019 • 9:12:23pm

Up yours, Mitch!

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2019 • 9:14:27pm

Newest:

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2019 • 9:17:09pm

re: #2 Belafon

Newest:

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Almost cherry colored.

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William Lewis  Jan 20, 2019 • 9:17:43pm

Beautiful view, great breakin for my 7x35’s but too cold for more than a quick look -7 here

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teleskiguy  Jan 20, 2019 • 9:19:51pm

25° F at my twenty. Too warm.

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teleskiguy  Jan 20, 2019 • 9:20:26pm
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Belafon  Jan 20, 2019 • 9:20:32pm

It’s 37 here in DFW

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Targetpractice  Jan 20, 2019 • 9:23:10pm
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Belafon  Jan 20, 2019 • 9:25:11pm

More playing. I’m using one of my higher power images. This is the bottom left of the moon rotated because of the telescope:

Edit: the image inserted rotated it left 90 degrees.

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2019 • 9:31:06pm

re: #3 HappyWarrior

Almost cherry colored.

The camera is making it redder than what I see. It’s a pale red. The camera i think is just overcompensating for how dark it is. And i don’t know enough to fix it.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 20, 2019 • 9:32:48pm

re: #10 Belafon

The camera is making it redder than what I see. It’s a pale red. The camera i think is just overcompensating sort how dark it is. And i don’t know enough to fix it.

All good. Thanks for the photos.

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retired cynic  Jan 20, 2019 • 9:34:09pm

re: #10 Belafon

The camera is making it redder than what I see. It’s a pale red. The camera i think is just overcompensating sort how dark it is. And i don’t know enough to fix it.

You could tinker with it in Photoshop, or some such, to get the color the way you are seeing it with your eye. But they are really good, and I appreciate them!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 20, 2019 • 9:39:40pm

Mine is a bit blurry. Sue me. It’s 3 degrees here. I’m just glad it didn’t fog up.

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2019 • 9:40:30pm

re: #12 retired cynic

You could tinker with it in Photoshop, or some such, to get the color the way you are seeing it with your eye. But they are really good, and I appreciate them!

Thanks.

I decided to call it quits. I think I scared the dragon off, so I think the moon will return.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 20, 2019 • 9:41:48pm
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retired cynic  Jan 20, 2019 • 9:47:08pm

re: #15 goddamnedfrank

ooo, me, two…

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Decatur Deb  Jan 20, 2019 • 9:50:51pm

One more look, and off. ‘Nite, all.

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plansbandc  Jan 20, 2019 • 9:57:39pm

It’s amazing how people watching the same video see opposite things. If we can’t agree on what we are seeing, what hope is there for any coming together.

We have two separate groups who do not see the same truth.

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Belafon  Jan 20, 2019 • 10:13:29pm

I noticed that they now offer Navajo on Duolingo.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 20, 2019 • 10:23:00pm

True story:

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 20, 2019 • 10:24:04pm

This is my friend Harv’s image of the eclipse, and his comments:

Here’s my image made at about mid-eclipse. It is pretty much proportional to the effort that I put into it. I didn’t bother setting up and aligning the equatorial mount, so I had to jack the sensitivity up and use short exposures. This is with a 500mm mirror lens. Contrast was digitally increased somewhat.

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Jan 20, 2019 • 10:35:31pm

Long and full of personal drama. Lots of personal drama. Read at your own risk.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 20, 2019 • 10:42:32pm
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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Jan 20, 2019 • 10:55:28pm

re: #23 goddamnedfrank

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I didn’t realize that was the reason why Sinead tore up the photo of the Pope. Thanks for that.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 20, 2019 • 10:56:22pm
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gwangung  Jan 20, 2019 • 10:57:12pm

re: #24 Sionainn, Fierce Mother

I didn’t realize that was the reason why Sinead tore up the photo of the Pope. Thanks for that.

I remember that was the reason. And I was frackin’ puzzled why anybody would be mad about that reason.

Hm. Nowadays I’d probably hit the roof over that kind of denial….

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austin_blue  Jan 20, 2019 • 11:01:36pm

There is just something magnificent about old masters playing absolutely beautiful music.

Thank you, Charles. That was an absolute treat.

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Jan 20, 2019 • 11:15:08pm

re: #27 austin_blue

There is just something magnificent about old masters playing absolutely beautiful music.

Thank you, Charles. That was an absolute treat.

Thank you for your comment. It made me actually listen to the music and I’m glad I did. Music does indeed soothe the savage beast (at least this one).

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dell*nix  Jan 20, 2019 • 11:15:41pm

re: #22 Sionainn, Fierce Mother

COLPmTuh3TOxATfKO5Lga1bJy8PxcE9n

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 20, 2019 • 11:33:18pm

re: #24 Sionainn, Fierce Mother

I didn’t realize that was the reason why Sinead tore up the photo of the Pope. Thanks for that.

You’re not alone. All I remember is she tore up a photo of the Pope, and never heard the reason why. I had figured it was just some kind of shock publicity stunt. Now I understand the whole thing better.

I also missed the Kris Kristophersson thing. Don’t know much about him, but it sounds just like the kind of thing he would do. He’s always struck me as a real mensch.

Also, {{{{{{Sionainn}}}}}}

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 20, 2019 • 11:36:24pm

re: #22 Sionainn, Fierce Mother

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 20, 2019 • 11:50:38pm

It’s time y’all fucking learned.

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Jan 20, 2019 • 11:53:28pm

re: #31 goddamnedfrank

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Jan 20, 2019 • 11:54:39pm

re: #32 goddamnedfrank

It’s time y’all fucking learned.

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I have no idea what that means, but amen, brother!

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Dave In Austin  Jan 21, 2019 • 12:30:58am
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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 21, 2019 • 12:52:14am

re: #22 Sionainn, Fierce Mother

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 21, 2019 • 12:56:44am

re: #35 Dave In Austin

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Jan 21, 2019 • 12:59:37am

re: #36 Jebediah, RBG

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Teukka  Jan 21, 2019 • 1:15:38am

re: #22 Sionainn, Fierce Mother

Long and full of personal drama. Lots of personal drama. Read at your own risk.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 21, 2019 • 1:18:21am

Anyone know who this attractive young lady with JFK is?

Click for answer:

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 21, 2019 • 1:22:11am

re: #33 Sionainn, Fierce Mother

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 21, 2019 • 1:40:37am

BLACK MUSLIMS’ MADE MY SON DO IT, SAYS MOTHER OF PRO-TRUMP BOY WHO MOCKED AMERICAN VETERAN

Gee, I thought it would be some kind of Jewish cabal. They’re the usual suspects among these folk.

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Jan 21, 2019 • 1:46:21am

re: #40 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Anyone know who this attractive young lady with JFK is?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2019 • 1:48:10am

re: #40 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Anyone know who this attractive young lady with JFK is?

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freetoken  Jan 21, 2019 • 1:50:46am
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Dave In Austin  Jan 21, 2019 • 2:03:07am

Happy Monday!!

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Jan 21, 2019 • 2:04:47am

re: #41 goddamnedfrank

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Jan 21, 2019 • 2:07:36am

re: #42 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

BLACK MUSLIMS’ MADE MY SON DO IT, SAYS MOTHER OF PRO-TRUMP BOY WHO MOCKED AMERICAN VETERAN

Gee, I thought it would be some kind of Jewish cabal. They’re the usual suspects among these folk.

Never mind that they were actually Black Hebrew Israelites (horrendous people based on my own interactions with them as well as the video…just think Westboro Baptist Church bad).

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Jan 21, 2019 • 2:08:46am

re: #44 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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Sionainn, Warrior Mother  Jan 21, 2019 • 2:25:49am

It is now 2:24 a.m. and I think my mind has finally calmed down enough to get 4 hours of sleep. Thank you so much to all the night Lizards who have helped me get out my emotions and listened to me. It means everything. Love you all!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2019 • 2:26:21am

re: #49 Sionainn, Fierce Mother

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2019 • 2:27:20am

re: #50 Sionainn, Fierce Mother

It is now 2:24 a.m. and I think my mind has finally calmed down enough to get 4 hours of sleep. Thank you so much to all the night Lizards who have helped me get out my emotions and listened to me. It means everything. Love you all!

I lost a lot of sleep over a similar incident about eleven years ago…

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wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam  Jan 21, 2019 • 2:41:40am

re: #45 freetoken

I just saw that instrument this morning! Check it out.

Vivaldi Four Seasons: “Winter” (L’Inverno), complete; Cynthia Freivogel, Voices of Music 4K RV 297

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freetoken  Jan 21, 2019 • 2:45:13am

re: #53 wheat-dogg, raker of forests, master of steam

There were many variations on the lute, apparently.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 21, 2019 • 2:49:30am

Ammosexuals are having a collective orgasm over this story:

3 home invasion suspects killed, 2 wounded after Houston resident opens fire

HOUSTON — Authorities are investigating after dozens of shots were fired in east Houston early Saturday morning.

According to a detective, the incident began as a home invasion in the 7000 block of Sherman.

Authorities say the homeowner defended himself after the suspects entered the home. Following the shooting, the suspects fled from the scene.

I wonder how the NRA cultists will feel if the so-far-unidentified home-owner turns out to be an ill-eagle. According to another story I saw, a neighbor said he knows the man only as “Flaco,” meaning skinny or thin. It is a very common nickname in Mexico for obese or fat people. Otoh, it would be even more problematic if he used a registered machine gun, another possibility given that 70 or more rounds were fired. NRA types hate the Class 3 rules that allow machine guns, since they are a successful example of registration and licensing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2019 • 2:54:14am

re: #55 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Ammosexuals are having a collective orgasm over this story:

3 home invasion suspects killed, 2 wounded after Houston resident opens fire

If you want to use a gun to defend your home and your family, then I guess that is your good right and I do noth think that anybody is going to call that right into question.

But toting guns in schools or other public places with the expectation that they can be used to stop an active mass shooting is another matter. To do so safely and effectively (and without endangering others as much or more than the shooter) requires training and skills that cannot just be purchased over the counter at the local Wal-Mart sporting goods section.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 21, 2019 • 5:00:09am

Looks like California Senator Kamala Harris is reaching for the brass ring.

npr.org

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Danack  Jan 21, 2019 • 5:04:13am

Tulsi Gabbard doesn’t sound very smart.

politico.com

“The problem here is that this issue, like so many others in Washington, are being relegated to partisan politics,” she said in an interview on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

“Where if a Republican is putting forward a proposal, Democrats are going to shoot it down. If Democrats are putting forward a proposal, Republicans are going to shoot it down, really thinking about which party can call a win on this issue.”

She’s trying to position herself as the voice of reasonableness…..which is a losing strategy when your opponent has already shown themselves as unreasonable dick-weasels. It’s also not a good strategy when people who might vote for your are entirely pissed off and want people who are going to fight for what they believe in.

Full transcript

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freetoken  Jan 21, 2019 • 5:05:42am

re: #57 Dr Lizardo

I believe what is happening is that there is a wide consensus that the Democratic party has to get out of the who’s-chosen-to-be-next trap that they fell into with Hillary.

What I’m hoping will happen is that once all these balloons go up for the Democratic party, that what will be smoked out (as if it’s not already clear) are all the Bernie-bots who just are fixated on a false narrative.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 5:06:43am

re: #23 goddamnedfrank

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 5:08:57am

re: #58 Danack

Tulsi Gabbard doesn’t sound very smart.

politico.com

She’s trying to position herself as the voice of reasonableness…..which is a losing strategy when your opponent has already shown themselves as unreasonable dick-weasels. It’s also not a good strategy when people who might vote for your are entirely pissed off and want people who are going to fight for what they believe in.

Full transcript

I would like Tulsi to see a Republican proposal that was explicitly shot down for being a Republican one in the Obama or Bill Clinton years.

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freetoken  Jan 21, 2019 • 5:10:17am
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A Mom Anon  Jan 21, 2019 • 5:11:24am

re: #56 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And it doesn’t help that the gun humpers conflate protecting family and property with stopping a school shooting or other half baked manly scenarios.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 21, 2019 • 5:15:14am

Interesting historical tidbit.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 21, 2019 • 5:16:08am

re: #58 Danack

Tulsi should run in the GOP primaries. She’s not one of us.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 5:17:20am

re: #64 Patricia Kayden

Interesting historical tidbit.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 5:18:56am

re: #59 freetoken

I believe what is happening is that there is a wide consensus that the Democratic party has to get out of the who’s-chosen-to-be-next trap that they fell into with Hillary.

What I’m hoping will happen is that once all these balloons go up for the Democratic party, that what will be smoked out (as if it’s not already clear) are all the Bernie-bots who just are fixated on a false narrative.

They did make a mistake with that. I get why they definitely preferred HRC over Bernie but it would have been nice to have a fellow actual Democrat emerge as her challenger.

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jeffreyw  Jan 21, 2019 • 5:19:27am

Good morning!

But it’s all right. I’m Jumpin’ Jay Flash
It’s a gas, gas, gas

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 5:21:01am

Pence’s tweet seems to imply he doesn’t know MLK was killed in April not January. I dunno. I’d rather conservatives like that be honest and concede that MLK doesn’t mean much to them because he clearly doesn’t.

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Targetpractice  Jan 21, 2019 • 5:22:57am

re: #65 Patricia Kayden

Tulsi should run in the GOP primaries. She’s not one of us.

She’s a DINO, as there’s no way for a Republican to win in Hawaii. If history is any guide, that’s the future of the GOP in Cali as well, many party members magically changing parties to run as “conservative Democrats.”

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A Mom Anon  Jan 21, 2019 • 5:25:16am

re: #22 Sionainn, Fierce Mother

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 5:26:45am

re: #70 Targetpractice

She’s a DINO, as there’s no way for a Republican to win in Hawaii. If history is any guide, that’s the future of the GOP in Cali as well, many party members magically changing parties to run as “conservative Democrats.”

Well I would return the favor in bright red states.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 21, 2019 • 5:41:02am

re: #70 Targetpractice

Don’t you think that would demand at least a modified view of choice?

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CarolJ  Jan 21, 2019 • 5:58:00am

re: #67 HappyWarrior
But you can’t really make someone a real challenger out of whole cloth. The only other Democrat that was positioned to be one was Biden who had lost his son and was not up to campaigning. Anyone else didn’t feel it was their year, or wasn’t up to facing Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 5:59:13am

re: #74 CarolJ

But you can’t really make someone a real challenger out of whole cloth. The only other Democrat that was positioned to be one was Biden who had lost his son and was not up to campaigning. Anyone else didn’t feel it was their year, or wasn’t up to facing Trump.

Very true. I just wish a more credible challenger had emerged. That said Trump wasn’t the issue since their field was wide open like ours I’d this year.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 21, 2019 • 6:07:13am

re: #74 CarolJ

But you can’t really make someone a real challenger out of whole cloth. The only other Democrat that was positioned to be one was Biden who had lost his son and was not up to campaigning. Anyone else didn’t feel it was their year, or wasn’t up to facing Trump.

Exactly
She was the nominee because She got way more votes than Bernie
And no one else challenged her
The possible party and debate shenanigans did not by themselves keep every other “better” candidate out

That’s not chosen
It’s the definition of winning

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Belafon  Jan 21, 2019 • 6:08:47am

re: #75 HappyWarrior

Very true. I just wish a more credible challenger had emerged. That said Trump wasn’t the issue since their field was wide open like ours I’d this year.

Let’s try for some more credible challengers that had better qualifications than:
Senator with actual bills as accomplishments
Secretary of State
Civil Rights experience (remember, she went undercover)
As politically studied as her

Too many people are hindsighting this, and in the wrong way. People weren’t getting out of her way because she was next in line, people were getting out of her way because she was the battleship of the Democratic party.

The problem is that while Democrats wanted to fall in love, Republicans had spent 30 years preparing for her, and Democrats were unprepared to defend her in a few places. And she still won 3+ Million votes more than him.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 6:11:20am

re: #77 Belafon

Let’s try for some more credible challengers that had better qualifications than:
Senator with actual bills as accomplishments
Secretary of State
Civil Rights experience (remember, she went undercover)
As politically studied as her

Too many people are hindsighting this, and in the wrong way. People weren’t getting out of her way because she was next in line, people were getting out of her way because she was the battleship of the Democratic party.

The problem is that while Democrats wanted to fall in love, Republicans had spent 30 years preparing for her, and Democrats were unprepared to defend her in a few places. And she still won 3+ Million votes more than him.

All true. My opinion is good competition helps candidates. I thought Obama benefited immensely from her as his main rival in 2008 rather than Edwards. I’m just saying and it’s not her fault obviously that she got more an Edwards than someone like her as a rival.

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CarolJ  Jan 21, 2019 • 6:12:53am

re: #75 HappyWarrior

Yes, it was wide open that year, but one has to be prepared for anyone, and with Trump in the mix, anyone would have had to prepare for a clown primary and didn’t want to get caught up what would be a “reality show” campaign whether or not Trump was the nominee.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 6:13:57am

I probably phrased that poorly. Basically I believe that Obama and her benefited from going at in 2008 to the point where I think she was an excellent choice for SoS. My hope was that someone else would have emerged to be a contender for a top spot in her cabinet. Because that wasn’t going to be Bernie, Webb, Chaffee, or O’Malley.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 6:14:36am

re: #79 CarolJ

Yes, it was wide open that year, but one has to be prepared for anyone, and with Trump in the mix, anyone would have had to prepare for a clown primary and didn’t want to get caught up what would be a “reality show” campaign whether or not Trump was the nominee.

True true. Anyhow I’m excited about all the candidates exempting Tulsi so far.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2019 • 6:14:41am

re: #79 CarolJ

Yes, it was wide open that year, but one has to be prepared for anyone, and with Trump in the mix, anyone would have had to prepare for a clown primary and didn’t want to get caught up what would be a “reality show” campaign whether or not Trump was the nominee.

Trump had the networks on his side, ready to trade free advertising for enhanced ratings.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 21, 2019 • 6:18:38am

re: #77 Belafon

Let’s try for some more credible challengers that had better qualifications than:
Senator with actual bills as accomplishments
Secretary of State
Civil Rights experience (remember, she went undercover)
As politically studied as her

Too many people are hindsighting this, and in the wrong way. People weren’t getting out of her way because she was next in line, people were getting out of her way because she was the battleship of the Democratic party.

The problem is that while Democrats wanted to fall in love, Republicans had spent 30 years preparing for her, and Democrats were unprepared to defend her in a few places. And she still won 3+ Million votes more than him.

Enough Dems wouldn’t just “suck it up for the win”
So we got this
Which many of us saw coming
Whether they didn’t see it ,didn’t care, actually preferred this ,or hoped it would happen to teach us all, no one will ever really know

What we do know is some people are stunningly stupid and blind because forget everything -tariffs trade wall cages gutting regs shutdowns grift graft emoluments Russia lying tax cuts deficit north Korea nato…..there is no way 2-3 40 year supreme Court seats all by itself can be seen as good by any definition of “the left side”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 21, 2019 • 6:24:11am
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Eventual Carrion  Jan 21, 2019 • 6:30:28am

re: #84 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Is this an active admiral sending this out? If so, ouch.

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freetoken  Jan 21, 2019 • 6:35:33am

re: #85 Eventual Carrion

Is this an active admiral sending this out? If so, ouch.

Isn’t the commandant?

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 21, 2019 • 7:03:43am

re: #86 freetoken

Isn’t the commandant?

I went and looked at the thread after I posted that message. Yes, it says the commandant and looks like active. And the replies damning Donny Two Scoops really surprised me.

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Alephnaught  Jan 21, 2019 • 7:04:08am
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Mike Lamb  Jan 21, 2019 • 7:15:01am

re: #88 Alephnaught

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 7:16:48am

re: #88 Alephnaught

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WTF

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 21, 2019 • 7:20:54am
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MsJ  Jan 21, 2019 • 7:24:15am

re: #88 Alephnaught

It’s ok, though…they apologized for saying RBG was dead.

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MsJ  Jan 21, 2019 • 7:25:11am

Google and Gmail are down? Outstanding.

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freetoken  Jan 21, 2019 • 7:28:44am

re: #93 MsJ

Google and Gmail are down? Outstanding.

Work for me.

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MsJ  Jan 21, 2019 • 7:30:17am

re: #94 freetoken

Work for me.

F**K. Thanks.

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William Lewis  Jan 21, 2019 • 7:32:51am

So after stewing a bit, in a moment of WTF, I sent this to the NFL commissioner’s office.

I have been tired of the NFL and it’s hypocrisy for a long time.
The concussions and hidden trauma.
Giving abusers as slap on the wrist while smoking a doobie is world ending.

Now we can add utterly incompetent officiating, OT rules that are a joke and the reality that Belacheat will steal 53 with the NFL’s happy compliance. The NFL literally feels like kayfabe and they got what they wanted - a quarter billion new RAMS fans rooting against their current heel team,

It’s a sick joke, I am tired of it. As a result that’s it.

My first memory is Bart Starr to Max McGee in the Super Bowl. This will be the last time I watch an NFL game.

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 21, 2019 • 7:32:51am

re: #88 Alephnaught

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 21, 2019 • 7:35:28am

I’ve handled too many disability cases from athletes using steroids, brain damaged football players, bodybuilders burining out their kidneys, wrestlers with orthopedic injuries.

I’m at the point that I detest all sports.

Yet Rome must have her gladiators…

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Teukka  Jan 21, 2019 • 7:37:21am

re: #98 Joe Bacon ??

I’ve handled too many disability cases from athletes using steroids, brain damaged football players, bodybuilders burining out their kidneys, wrestlers with orthopedic injuries.

I’m at the point that I detest all sports.

Yet Rome must have her gladiators…

“Bread and circuses, etc. etc. etc…”

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Belafon  Jan 21, 2019 • 7:38:43am

re: #98 Joe Bacon ??

I’ve handled too many disability cases from athletes using steroids, brain damaged football players, bodybuilders burining out their kidneys, wrestlers with orthopedic injuries.

I’m at the point that I detest all sports.

Yet Rome must have her gladiators…

I’m a non-athlete with orthopedic injuries.

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Belafon  Jan 21, 2019 • 7:40:07am

I blame the Navy.

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 21, 2019 • 7:40:25am

The RAZZIE nominees have been announced.

And it’s a double win for the Trumps as President Asshole and his Spouse have been nominated for awards…

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Belafon  Jan 21, 2019 • 7:47:13am

re: #102 Joe Bacon ??

The RAZZIE nominees have been announced.

And it’s a double win for the Trumps as President Asshole and his Spouse have been nominated for awards…

I bet he doesn’t take it as well as Hally Berry did.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2019 • 7:50:06am

re: #98 Joe Bacon ??

I’ve handled too many disability cases from athletes using steroids, brain damaged football players, bodybuilders burining out their kidneys, wrestlers with orthopedic injuries.

I’m at the point that I detest all sports.

Yet Rome must have her gladiators…

On one hand, sports can stand for the best of our American ideals: competition, fair play, striving for excellence, team spirit, etc…

So why do we let it come to express the worst forms of greed and exploitation?

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 21, 2019 • 7:51:47am

re: #22 Sionainn, Fierce Mother

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Weaselone  Jan 21, 2019 • 7:52:08am

re: #104 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It got put on television.

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Belafon  Jan 21, 2019 • 7:52:47am

re: #104 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

On one hand, sports can stand for the best of our American ideals: competition, fair play, striving for excellence, team spirit, etc…

So why do we let it come to express the worst forms of greed and exploitation?

Because people need to eat, and some people are willing to take advantage of that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2019 • 7:53:48am

re: #107 Belafon

Because people need to eat, and some people are willing to take advantage of that.

It bugs me that they appeal to these ideals while being totally morally bankrupt in their dealings with players and the public.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 7:56:04am

re: #104 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

On one hand, sports can stand for the best of our American ideals: competition, fair play, striving for excellence, team spirit, etc…

So why do we let it come to express the worst forms of greed and exploitation?

Because sports is big $$$$.

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Belafon  Jan 21, 2019 • 7:58:06am

re: #109 HappyWarrior

Because sports is big $$$$.

As is all entertainment. It’s interesting how much we are willing to fork over for entertainment.

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ObserverArt  Jan 21, 2019 • 7:58:07am

Morning!

It’s cold. Brrr.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:00:57am

re: #110 Belafon

As is all entertainment. It’s interesting how much we are willing to fork over for entertainment.

Yeah and the film and music industries have similar problems to sports.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:04:02am

Better late than never.

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Teukka  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:04:52am

Just got notified of this on my YouTube feed:

This Is Your Brain On Stale Air

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:07:06am

re: #113 I Would Prefer Not To

Better late than never.

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So Kaitlin thinks the military isn’t a real job? God she’s such a pathetic hack. Her tweets usually amuse me because of how vapid they are but as a son and grandson of federal employees who actually worked rather than grifter on Twitter, fuck her.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:07:54am

Oh and I see she’s on InfoWars. Good look Kaitlin. Alex Jones and friends.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:11:08am

As I’ve said before, Christie is a vindictive bully but this country would not be in danger if he were the leader.

cnn.com

He appears to be auditioning for a spot in the WH since his book doesn’t directly attack Trump. OTOH, how does he think Trump will ever learn what’s in his book — it’s not as though Trump reads nor is anyone in the Trump administration or Faux news likely to bring the book to his attention. Perhaps Christie is thinking of another run for the Presidency after Trump leaves and is hoping not to alienate the Trump base by blaming failures on everyone except Trump

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:12:10am

re: #116 HappyWarrior

Oh and I see she’s on InfoWars. Good look Kaitlin. Alex Jones and friends.

I will never stop laughing at this Alex Jones video clip:

Alex Jones Chases a Guy Across the Street

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:13:28am

re: #118 The Vicious Babushka

I will never stop laughing at this Alex Jones video clip:

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Hahahaha that’s brilliant.

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Teukka  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:13:59am

re: #114 Teukka

Just got notified of this on my YouTube feed:

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TL;DW of the video is that we’re globally at roughly half of what’s known to cause detectable cognitive impairment in terms of CO2

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:18:09am

A year ago, I posted this on Twitter to Sean Hannity. Today, It’s now Donald Trump and the GOP who are Ambassador Mollari….

Londo Mollari Technomage Prophecy

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Teukka  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:20:21am

re: #121 Eric The Fruit Bat

A year ago, I posted this on Twitter to Sean Hannity. Today, It’s now Donald Trump and the GOP who are Ambassador Mollari….

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Two other memorable Babylon 5 quotes…

Arrogance and Stupidity Londo Mollari

In Fire

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KerFuFFler  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:22:43am

re: #56 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If you want to use a gun to defend your home and your family, then I guess that is your good right and I do noth think that anybody is going to call that right into question.

But toting guns in schools or other public places with the expectation that they can be used to stop an active mass shooting is another matter. To do so safely and effectively (and without endangering others as much or more than the shooter) requires training and skills that cannot just be purchased over the counter at the local Wal-Mart sporting goods section.

Defending one’s own home with guns seems reasonable, but less so when people buy high powered weapons whose bullets blast through walls and enter other people’s homes. Such weapons should be reserved for military functions it seems to me. Perhaps gun enthusiasts could enjoy firing such weapons at ranges where the guns could be stored, but I don’t think they belong in neighborhoods.

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gwangung  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:24:09am

Good thread.

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sagehen  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:26:44am

re: #122 Teukka

Two other memorable Babylon 5 quotes…

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I’ve always really liked this one:

Vir Cotto Is A Badass

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gwangung  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:27:08am

Joy Reid tweeting out clips of Martin Luther King, including one at the Berlin Wall….

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CleverToad  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:27:16am

re: #22 Sionainn, Fierce Mother

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gwangung  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:28:53am

Drive by remembrance….

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:30:29am

re: #128 gwangung

Drive by remembrance….

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MsJ  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:33:00am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:34:16am

re: #128 gwangung

Drive by remembrance….

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The trip lasted about 90 seconds.

Stormy Daniels could not be reach for comment.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:34:35am

re: #130 MsJ

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Long enough to get a photo, short enough to avoid actually taking it in and to get a hot dog nearby.

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Weaselone  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:34:47am

re: #125 sagehen

I’ve always really liked this one:

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That’s the stuff.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:34:49am

re: #131 I Would Prefer Not To

The trip lasted about 90 seconds.

Stormy Daniels could not be reach for comment.

Oh snap.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:36:17am

re: #124 gwangung

Good thread.

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I like threads like this. I’m not a Twitter user but I like this because Broderick is using his own words and insights rather than trying to “own” people.

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:36:27am

Oh my fucking lord… I’m watching ABC and CBS morning news, and sadly they’re parroting the Right Wing disinformation campaign against Nathan Phillips. The “there’s more to the video than meets the eye” canard, and “Phillip’s may have agitated the incident.” Ugh!

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:39:58am
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Citizen K  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:40:50am

re: #136 DodgerFan1988

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Oh my fucking lord… I’m watching ABC and CBS morning news, and sadly they’re parroting the Right Wing disinformation campaign against Nathan Phillips. The “there’s more to the video than meets the eye” canard, and “Phillip’s may have agitated the incident.” Ugh!

Yeah, I’m about ready to give up. The rush to apologia for this shows that racism will always be forgiven, excused in some way, that white fragility will always be coddled to, and the devious brown people will always be demonized soon as an excuse is found. The fact that they managed to do this at such record speed shows it will always be fucking with us no matter how hard we fight back against it.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:41:34am

Ficking Fox assholes. She’s not dead

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:41:48am

re: #136 DodgerFan1988

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Oh my fucking lord… I’m watching the ABC and CBS morning news, and sadly they’re parroting the Right Wing disinformation campaign against Nathan Phillips. The “there’s more to the video than meets the eye” canard, and “Phillip’s may have agitated the incident.” Ugh!

Ah Reason. Such a fair source.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:42:12am

re: #139 I Would Prefer Not To

Ficking Fox assholes. She’s not dead

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I don’t buy it. God I hate FNC.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:43:38am

re: #136 DodgerFan1988

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Oh my fucking lord… I’m watching ABC and CBS morning news, and sadly they’re parroting the Right Wing disinformation campaign against Nathan Phillips. The “there’s more to the video than meets the eye” canard, and “Phillip’s may have agitated the incident.” Ugh!

I have always assumed that if Reason publishes an article, it’s prima facie evidence that the article is deceptive and not worthy of consideration by decent people.

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MsJ  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:44:07am

re: #141 HappyWarrior

I don’t buy it. God I hate FNC.

America can never heal itself when Fox News exists.

While right wing nuts like Jones, et al, will always be fringe, no matter how many follow them, with a major network (now, two, with OANN) the propaganda will keep us from being a normal country, not like we were. I don’t know if we ever will be America again.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:45:03am

re: #143 MsJ

America can never heal itself when Fox News exists.

While right wing nuts like Jones, et al, will always be fringe, no matter how many follow them, with a major network (now, two, with OANN) the propaganda will keep us from being a normal country, not like we were. I don’t know if we ever will be America again.

We’ve always have had stuff like this tho but that said, FNC poisoned a good chunk of the populace.

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freetoken  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:47:56am

re: #136 DodgerFan1988

Why would Tapper push anything from “Reason”?

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:48:17am

re: #127 CleverToad

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Mattand  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:49:31am

re: #138 Citizen K

Yeah, I’m about ready to give up. The rush to apologia for this shows that racism will always be forgiven, excused in some way, that white fragility will always be coddled to, and the devious brown people will always be demonized soon as an excuse is found. The fact that they managed to do this at such record speed shows it will always be fucking with us no matter how hard we fight back against it.

I haven’t confronted anyone directly yet, but my fucking Facebook feed is starting to pile up with “We need to hear both sides” horseshit. Out of sheer frustration, I posted this:

Fuck this spineless “Both sides are equally to blame” horsehit. It’s the exact reason we wound up with a President who was known for being racist; fondling women; a failure at business; and a history for refusing to pay people for work they’ve done.

At some point, you need to grow a goddamn spine and make a choice.

I posted the other day on FB that white people are the problem in this country. I haven’t gotten any pushback yet, but you know what? Fucking bring it. As you pointed out, the rush to apologize for these obnoxious entitled white pricks is nauseating.

White people as a whole have a real hard time with being self-critical.

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Citizen K  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:50:13am

re: #145 freetoken

Why would Tapper push anything from “Reason”?

Because the natural inclination from the media still is stuck on ‘both sides same thing’ with the usual corollary blaming Dems and brown people more if they dare actually do anything approaching the ‘same thing’. The instant reflex and willingness to discount any sort of bad behavior from ‘fine white folk’ and conservatives is wholly ingrained in the media and our political system, the willingness and reflex to discount non-white pain and coddle perpetrators is baked in, and only seems to punch back all the harder if someone tries to fight back against it.

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Mattand  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:51:57am

Plus, the few conservatives remaining on my feed are all of the “Trump came out of nowhere, we’re just as horrified as you” variety. And they can’t piece together that a guy who ran on a platform of racist dog whistles, and encouraging the worst this nation has to offer, is responsible for the massive uptick in openly bigoted behavior.

Happy MLK Day everyone…

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ObserverArt  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:52:03am

re: #145 freetoken

Why would Tapper push anything from “Reason”?

I’m thinking that is what he thinks, but he doesn’t want to say it. He can let Reason take the heat.

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Interesting Times  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:53:16am

re: #150 ObserverArt

I’m thinking that is what he thinks, but he doesn’t want to say it. He can let Reason take the heat.

He does have the classic “RTs do not equal endorsements” cop-out on his Twitter bio.

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Citizen K  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:53:29am

re: #149 Mattand

Plus, the few conservatives remaining on my feed are all of the “Trump came out of nowhere, we’re just as horrified as you” variety. And they can’t piece together that a guy who ran on a platform of racist dog whistles, and encouraging the worst this nation has to offer, is responsible for the massive uptick in openly bigoted behavior.

Happy MLK Day everyone…

It shows that legally, we might have made movements forward, but socially, culturally, we not only have barely inched forward, we may be quickly regressing on what little gains there have been.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:54:28am

re: #149 Mattand

Plus, the few conservatives remaining on my feed are all of the “Trump came out of nowhere, we’re just as horrified as you” variety. And they can’t piece together that a guy who ran on a platform of racist dog whistles, and encouraging the worst this nation has to offer, is responsible for the massive uptick in openly bigoted behavior.

Happy MLK Day everyone…

He didn’t come out of nowhere. He’s the ID that many whites have wanted for years from a candidate. Someone not afraid to blow that racist whistle.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:57:24am

We have gotten better where we were when my parents were 31 but we need to be better. To me, white privilege goes back to acknowledgement. Acknowledgment that your life isn’t easier because you’re white but that it hasn’t been more difficult because of that. And for a lot of white people, they can’t do that. They can’t see that they would never be profiled by the authorities for being white.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:58:25am

re: #123 KerFuFFler

Defending one’s own home with guns seems reasonable, but less so when people buy high powered weapons whose bullets blast through walls and enter other people’s homes. Such weapons should be reserved for military functions it seems to me. Perhaps gun enthusiasts could enjoy firing such weapons at ranges where the guns could be stored, but I don’t think they belong in neighborhoods.

the right to defend your homme ends at the walls of your home, I said nobody is going to call that basic right into question, but like all rights, it has its limits where it bumps into the rights of others

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Weaselone  Jan 21, 2019 • 8:58:33am

re: #136 DodgerFan1988

This isn’t tough. The actual story is that the Native Americans stepped in between the students and one group of assholes only for the students to prove that they were also assholes.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:00:12am

TBH as a white guy, I’m uncomfortable when I’m in an all white often because a lot of ugliness comes out. Racially insensitive “jokes.” And I just wonder if these people would dare say that shit to a PoC’s face. I’m all for humor but man racist shit pisses me off.

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Citizen K  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:00:52am

re: #156 Weaselone

This isn’t tough. The actual story is that the native Americans stepped in between the students and one group of assholes only for the students to prove that they were also assholes.

The problem is that they’re making the kids out to be innocent and the Native Americans out to be aggressors instead. Apparently, Nathan Phillips had the gall and the anger to play his drum aggressively in some innocent poor boy’s face! They had to rally around and do ‘school chants’ just to ward off such aggression!!

I just….fuck it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:00:56am

re: #147 Mattand

…..

I posted the other day on FB that white people are the problem in this country. I haven’t gotten any pushback yet, but you know what? Fucking bring it. As you pointed out, the rush to apologize for these obnoxious entitled white pricks is nauseating.

White people as a whole have a real hard time with being self-critical.

My brother threw out the “The Civil Was was over 150 years ago” comment a couple weeks ago, to pretend that today’s problems are somehow unrelated to our past and to ignore the century+ of legal discrimination that followed. Although he denies watching Fox, his main source of information is from various RW sources, including Newt Gingrich’s newsletter. A vast majority of white people voted for Trump and Roy Moore — including educated people — a sad commentary on their ethics and morals.

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Alephnaught  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:01:09am

I missed this yesterday:

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:03:19am
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Citizen K  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:04:38am

re: #161 DodgerFan1988

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:06:00am

re: #158 Citizen K

The problem is that they’re making the kids out to be innocent and the Native Americans out to be aggressors instead. Apparently, Nathan Phillips had the gall and the anger to play his drum aggressively in some innocent poor boy’s face! They had to rally around and do ‘school chants’ just to ward off such aggression!!

I just….fuck it.

Any high school student who wears a MAGA cap should not be considered innocent. They should be presumed to be a racist — just like wearing a white sheet and hood.

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Mattand  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:07:03am

re: #159 Hecuba’s daughter

My brother threw out the “The Civil Was was over 150 years ago” comment a couple weeks ago, to pretend that today’s problems are somehow unrelated to our past and to ignore the century+ of legal discrimination that followed. Although he denies watching Fox, his main source of information is from various RW sources, including Newt Gingrich’s newsletter. A vast majority of white people voted for Trump and Roy Moore — including educated people — a sad commentary on their ethics and morals.

I’m luckier than you in that my siblings are of the “Don’t call them out, ignore them, you’re the problem for confronting them” variety. Particularly when it comes to our extended family, who are poster children for white resentment.

It’s particularly irritating with my sister, who’s a goddamn history teacher. She’s knows the background on all of this and where it’s lead us in the past, yet she constantly downplays this behavior.

I’m also glad my folks never got sucked into that Fox News/talk radio vortex. My mom probably wouldn’t have bought into it, but my father would have been a nightmare to deal with.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:08:18am

re: #159 Hecuba’s daughter

My brother threw out the “The Civil Was was over 150 years ago” comment a couple weeks ago, to pretend that today’s problems are somehow unrelated to our past and to ignore the century+ of legal discrimination that followed. Although he denies watching Fox, his main source of information is from various RW sources, including Newt Gingrich’s newsletter. A vast majority of white people voted for Trump and Roy Moore — including educated people — a sad commentary on their ethics and morals.

The problem with people like your brother is they just think the 13th amendment happened and all was well. It’s probably futile but I would encourage him to read about The Great Migration. This may sound like hyperbole to some but life in the Jim Crow South for black people was very akin to life for Jews in Romanov Russia or pre war Nazi Germany and the North while better was just that.

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Mattand  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:08:50am

re: #161 DodgerFan1988

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People were betting this prick would double down, particularly after his mom blamed “black Muslims” for the incident.

How much you want to bet this kid doesn’t get so much of a smack on the wrist.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:09:15am

re: #164 Mattand

I’m luckier than you in that my siblings are of the “Don’t call them out, ignore them, you’re the problem for confronting them” variety. Particularly when it comes to our extended family, who are poster children for white resentment.

It’s particularly irritating with my sister, who’s a goddamn history teacher. She’s knows the background on all of this and where it’s lead us in the past, yet she constantly downplays this behavior.

I’m also glad my folks never got sucked into that Fox News/talk radio vortex. My mom probably wouldn’t have bought into it, but my father would have been a nightmare to deal with.

My mom is getting more radical. In a good way.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:10:20am

My ancestors didn’t have easy lives but none of them lived in fear of lynchings.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:11:01am

re: #161 DodgerFan1988

JUST IN: “I am the student in the video who was confronted by the Native American protestor,” Nick Sandmann, a junior at Covington Catholic High School, announces in statement Sunday night, as he denounces what he calls “outright lies” about the incident.

They don’t retreat and they are now emboldened to reload

Self-defense against an aggressive drum-banging interloper

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Mattand  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:11:54am

re: #157 HappyWarrior

TBH as a white guy, I’m uncomfortable when I’m in an all white often because a lot of ugliness comes out. Racially insensitive “jokes.” And I just wonder if these people would dare say that shit to a PoC’s face. I’m all for humor but man racist shit pisses me off.

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been in line at a store, on the subway, etc., and have gotten sucked into “Just between us white folk” conversations. You’d think I was wearing a brown shirt and white hood 24/7.

I’m literally talking 30 years of this fucking nonsense.

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Citizen K  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:12:34am

re: #169 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They don’t retreat and they are now emboldened to reload

Self-defense against an aggressive drum-banging interloper

And the news is gladly willing to give them free reign for apologia and blame shifting. Anything for ‘both sides same thing’, especially when it makes the brown people out to be the aggressors.

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jaunte  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:13:32am

This weekend at Mud Gully, in between the rains.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:15:15am

re: #170 Mattand

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been in line at a store, on the subway, etc., and have gotten sucked into “Just between us white folk” conversations. You’d think I was wearing a brown shirt and white hood 24/7.

I’m literally talking 30 years of this fucking nonsense.

I’ll always remember my Dad telling me about a stranger in Costco going off on Jews to Dad. Dad said he was Jewish. He’s not btw but the guy shut up real fast and backtracked and stammered. But yeah people like this don’t know me. People are people to me. I see color obviously but I never let it determine how I feel.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:22:18am

The other problem and this is why I’m not a Sanders fan is this rosy romanticism about working class whites. Obviously not all are bad or prejudiced people but just because you’re not affluent wealth wise doesn’t mean you get a pass for bigotry.

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FormerDirtDart ????  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:23:09am
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Belafon  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:24:44am

re: #175 FormerDirtDart ????

I’m hoping they’re getting dragged over their silence every time a law-abiding black gun owner was killed by police.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:25:12am

re: #175 FormerDirtDart ????

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He was denied because he was black by men like your organization who considered themselves defenders of the 2nd amendment.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:25:29am

re: #176 Belafon

I’m hoping they’re getting dragged over their silence every time a law-abiding black gun owner was killed by police.

I’d hope and assume so.

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jaunte  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:30:04am

But Trump is a master negotiator, so…

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:30:37am

re: #145 freetoken

Why would Tapper push anything from “Reason”?

He’s back to snorting the Magic Balance Fairy Dust.

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gocart mozart  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:31:14am
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freetoken  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:31:46am

re: #180 Joe Bacon ??

Maybe he’s suffering Stockholm Syndrome, from Trump trying to boot him from the WH press.

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:32:45am

re: #178 HappyWarrior

I’d hope and assume so.

Don’t. The track record of Normalizing Russian Authority always comes down on the side of a white man OR a latino killing a black boy.

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jaunte  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:33:50am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:34:01am

re: #181 gocart mozart

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That’s the problem when you become larger than life. Everyone well most everyone wants to embrace you for their cause. Lincoln is similar. That’s obviously not a slam on MLK or Abe but more about how we learn history.

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Charmingly Persistent  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:34:02am

re: #67 HappyWarrior

They did make a mistake with that. I get why they definitely preferred HRC over Bernie but it would have been nice to have a fellow actual Democrat emerge as her challenger.

You are both flat out wrong with this analysis, in a way that does damage. No one picks who runs for president, least of all the DNC. The DNC has practically no money and practically no power. They provide some infrastructure in the primaries - mostly runnnig the debates. That is it.

People run for pesident because they have a deep desire to do so, and are willing to spend crazy hours for two or more years of their lives to do nothing else. They (and their families and friends and surrogates) spend endless hours doing speeches, raising money, recruiting staff and volunteers, talking to reporters, going on TV for insulting interviews by idiots who don’t do their homework and ask all the same pointless questions as every other talking head. It is endless and grueling and frustrating, and “they” absolutely do not pick someone and assign them this task.

The people who ran in 2016 were the people who wanted this bad enough to give it a try. There were five serious candidates on the Democratic side, including a governor and four senators. All five attended to the first debate in October of 2015. By February of 2016, three of them had dropped out. Not because anyone instructed them to do so but because they weren’t getting anywhere in polls and fundraising.

The people who did well enough in polling and fundraising to stay in after that were Hillary and Bernie. Bernie was elimated from winning the primaries by Super Tuesday (March of 2016) , but he was still getting the donations and the press, so he decided to pretend he could still win and stayed in all the way until, and really through, the convention. This was really the only unusual aspect of the primary process. Usually once a candidate clearly can’t win, they drop out and support the future nominee. Not doing so made Hillary seem weaker and less popular than she actually was.

The reason I think this story about how “they” picked the person next in line or picked Hillary or kept other candidates out or made other candidates quit is damaging is because it is really a form of conspiracy theory. It assigns agency where there isn’t any (there is no “they”) and denies agency where there is (people deciding to run, or not, for their own reasons). If we don’t understand the process or what happened, we are doomed to make mistakes in the future.

And on a personal note, as a Hillary fan from way back, it really pisses me off. It takes the most qualified person in recent history to run for president and pretends she was just assigned the nomination by people who made a mistake because it shouldn’t have been her, but rather some other much better (but unnamed and too lazy to bother to run) person. Hillary should have run and she should have won. She was the most admired woman in the U.S. for many years. She was by far the best qualified candidate. She was good at working with people and getting things done. She cared about the important issues and worked on them - and made progress! - her entire adult life.

The reasons Hillary lost are (1) the Republicans throwing everythig they had at her; (2) the press largely going along with it; (3) Russian interference; (4) Bernie eroding her legitimacy; (5) voter suppression; and (6) the electoral college. She won by almost 3 million votes in spite of all of that. This isn’t on her or her supporters or her voters. She, and we, worked our asses off and did everything pretty much as well as human beings are capable of doing. Positing some unnamed candidate who would have been better if only “they” hadn’t made the mistake of picking that loser Hillary is damaging and insulting.

If I have one regret in the 2016 election it is that I was a little too polite and reticient in sticking up for Hillary. I thought (like Hillary) that it was best not to alienate Bernie supporters, so we could all come together once one of them secured the nomination. That was a mistake I won’t again.

So guys, please don’t do this. Please don’t assuage your regrets or guilt by pretending it was some “they” that picked Hillary and that if “they” had picked someone else we would have won. That isn’t what happened.

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:34:12am

re: #170 Mattand

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been in line at a store, on the subway, etc., and have gotten sucked into “Just between us white folk” conversations. You’d think I was wearing a brown shirt and white hood 24/7.

I’m literally talking 30 years of this fucking nonsense.

Multiple times with me. Then when I tell them I’m Jewish…the look on their faces…PRICELESS!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:34:51am

re: #179 jaunte

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But Trump is a master negotiator, so…

“Donald, those aren’t missiles. They are construction equipment for hotels and golf courses. We are trying to learn from you.”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:35:17am

re: #183 Joe Bacon ??

Don’t. The track record of Normalizing Russian Authority always comes down on the side of a white man OR a latino killing a black boy.

I was talking about people in the comments, Joe. People are standing up to the Neutered Russian Associates more.

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:36:37am

re: #186 Charmingly Persistent

Your reply deserves a million likes from us.

Hillary was the victim of a 30 year continually sustained character assassination by conservatives and their presstitute lackeys.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:38:14am

I read an article this morning from Bloomberg suggesting there’s a significant chance a deal would be made to reopen the government this week.

I have heard nothing else of the sort from anywhere else.

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jaunte  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:40:08am

Imani Gandy tweeted about the “Santafication” of Martin Luther King, Jr., in which he’s co-opted to bring political goodies to every conservative’s favorite cause. I think this one from the NRA really takes the prize.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:40:12am

re: #186 Charmingly Persistent

You are both flat out wrong with this analysis, in a way that does damage. No one picks who runs for president, least of all the DNC. The DNC has practically no money and practically no power. They provide some infrastructure in the primaries - mostly runnnig the debates. That is it.

People run for pesident because they have a deep desire to do so, and are willing to spend crazy hours for two or more years of their lives to do nothing else. They (and their families and friends and surrogates) spend endless hours doing speeches, raising money, recruiting staff and volunteers, talking to reporters, going on TV for insulting interviews by idiots who don’t do their homework and ask all the same pointless questions as every other talking head. It is endless and grueling and frustrating, and “they” absolutely do not pick someone and assign them this task.

The people who ran in 2016 were the people who wanted this bad enough to give it a try. There were five serious candidates on the Democratic side, including a governor and four senators. All five attended to the first debate in October of 2015. By February of 2016, three of them had dropped out. Not because anyone instructed them to do so but because they weren’t getting anywhere in polls and fundraising.

The people who did well enough in polling and fundraising to stay in after that were Hillary and Bernie. Bernie was elimated from winning the primaries by Super Tuesday (March of 2016) , but he was still getting the donations and the press, so he decided to pretend he could still win and stayed in all the way until, and really through, the convention. This was really the only unusual aspect of the primary process. Usually once a candidate clearly can’t win, they drop out and support the future nominee. Not doing so made Hillary seem weaker and less popular than she actually was.

The reason I think this story about how “they” picked the person next in line or picked Hillary or kept other candidates out or made other candidates quit is damaging is because it is really a form of conspiracy theory. It assigns agency where there isn’t any (there is no “they”) and denies agency where there is (people deciding to run, or not, for their own reasons). If we don’t understand the process or what happened, we are doomed to make mistakes in the future.

And on a personal note, as a Hillary fan from way back, it really pisses me off. It takes the most qualified person in recent history to run for president and pretends she was just assigned the nomination by people who made a mistake because it shouldn’t have been her, but rather some other much better (but unnamed and too lazy to bother to run) person. Hillary should have run and she should have won. She was the most admired woman in the U.S. for many years. She was by far the best qualified candidate. She was good at working with people and getting things done. She cared about the important issues and worked on them - and made progress! - her entire adult life.

The reasons Hillary lost are (1) the Republicans throwing everythig they had at her; (2) the press largely going along with it; (3) Russian interference; (4) Bernie eroding her legitimacy; (5) voter suppression; and (6) the electoral college. She won by almost 3 million votes in spite of all of that. This isn’t on her or her supporters or her voters. She, and we, worked our asses off and did everything pretty much as well as human beings are capable of doing. Positing some unnamed candidate who would have been better if only “they” hadn’t made the mistake of picking that loser Hillary is damaging and insulting.

If I have one regret in the 2016 election it is that I was a little too polite and reticient in sticking up for Hillary. I thought (like Hillary) that it was best not to alienate Bernie supporters, so we could all come together once one of them secured the nomination. That was a mistake I won’t again.

So guys, please don’t do this. Please don’t assuage your regrets or guilt by pretending it was some “they” that picked Hillary and that if “they” had picked someone else we would have won. That isn’t what happened.

I wasn’t trying to imply the DNC gave it to her and if I did, I apologize. I guess most of all I wish someone other than Bernie had emerged so we’d have a possible candidate who understands the hard grind of the primaries. Again I sincerely apologize if I implied it was given to her. She definitely earned the nomination & anyone who denies that is wrong.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:40:12am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:41:15am

re: #190 Joe Bacon ??

Your reply deserves a million likes from us.

Hillary was the victim of a 30 year continually sustained character assassination by conservatives and their presstitute lackeys.

If I may and to show I’m not anti HRC, it was a joint effort, the left helped in that effort.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:42:04am

re: #186 Charmingly Persistent

I regret that I have but one upding to give.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:42:57am

re: #190 Joe Bacon ??

Your reply deserves a million likes from us.

Hillary was the victim of a 30 year continually sustained character assassination by conservatives and their presstitute lackeys.

Well, that and she’s a woman.

Never underestimate how deep misogyny goes.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:43:39am

re: #196 Blind Frog Belly White

I regret that I have but one upding to give.

Yeah I stepped in it. I just hope y’all don’t think I feel HRC was given the primary. I just wish there had been others to offer their perspective. The primaries gets rehashed to Bernie vs Clinton and the DNC and I resent that narrative.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:44:35am

re: #197 Eclectic Cyborg

Well, that and she’s a woman.

Never underestimate how deep misogyny goes.

Indeed. The 2016 campaign showed me how ugly it is.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:47:08am

Sorry guys. I guess looking back on Obama 2008, I loved that HRC and Obama was a hard fought battle between two competitors who respected each other. I feel Obama respected HRC and vice versa and I feel she did respect Bernie but he didn’t her.

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Single-handed sailor  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:48:07am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:48:19am

re: #197 Eclectic Cyborg

Well, that and she’s a woman.

Never underestimate how deep misogyny goes.

Pretty astonishing when you think about it, what horrible treatment HRC was subjected to with impunity because of her gender. Among other things, Trump would have been more deferential to a man.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:48:39am

And yeah qualifications. A man with her qualifications would be shown great deferrence and not told that he had to be more likable.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:50:08am

re: #202 Blind Frog Belly White

Pretty astonishing when you think about it, what horrible treatment HRC was subjected to with impunity because of her gender. Among other things, Trump would have been more deferential to a man.

He’s a dick to Obama too but he goes out of his way to be a dick to women counterparts whether it’s Pelosi, Merkel, or HRC.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:51:49am

I’m just asking myself where a woman with not only Trump’s un qualifications and personality would be. And my bet is nowhere. She wouldn’t have gotten anywhere. Fiorina was unqualified too but not as toxic as a person as Trump is.

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Dizzy  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:51:51am

re: #187 Joe Bacon ??

Multiple times with me. Then when I tell them I’m Jewish…the look on their faces…PRICELESS!

Joe, you must have an amazing backstory; an ancestor who was an officer in the civil war, and your Jewish Heritage.

Being Jewish myself and interested in Jewish history as it applies to the west, I would love to hear a bit more about your background and genealogy.

Apologies for being forward and prying into your personal life. Feel free to ignore.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:52:53am

So, that photo apparently showing Covington students taunting another kid from Clark (community???) high school? I’ve seen it stated it was in 2015. And then 2013. But I cannot find anywhere in any basketball schedule of Covington’s having played a Clark anything. While I have no doubt many of the kids at that school, and the environment itself are anything worthy of “Catholic”, let’s be careful here folks.

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CongoJack  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:53:00am

re: #198 HappyWarrior

Yeah I stepped in it. I just hope y’all don’t think I feel HRC was given the primary. I just wish there had been others to offer their perspective. The primaries gets rehashed to Bernie vs Clinton and the DNC and I resent that narrative.

Why the DNC was railroaded as a pro-Clinton anti-Bernie is beyond me - almost like one of them wasn’t a registered member of the Democratic Party before.

Also - this idea of rigging an election (primary) for Clinton was seen as abhorrent (though it wasn’t rigged at all)… are we hearing any peeps from the “bullshit canaries” of what the Republicans are doing do make sure their god-emperor doesn’t have a primary challenger. I only hear about that on MSNBC, and that was only a segment on Rachel Maddow’s show.

It’s as if there is a blind spot that only a few people get to use… hmmm… I wonder why.

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ObserverArt  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:54:11am

So I see where a bunch of people misidentified one of the Covington Catholic High students, got that wrong students home address and then started threatening the kid and his parents and their business, all who just happened to have been celebrating a wedding on Saturday when it all occurred.

Not good. Not good at all. In some ways that will harden some of the people all caught up in this.

Instant justice. We had big problems with that in the past.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:55:31am

re: #204 HappyWarrior

He’s a dick to Obama too but he goes out of his way to be a dick to women counterparts whether it’s Pelosi, Merkel, or HRC.

You know, though, I think he’d have been more deferential to Obama 1:1, like in a debate. But women are not worthy of respect, to him. That’s why you can trade them in on a newer model, cheat on them while they’re home with your baby, demean them publicly, etc. Even the basic etiquette of polite deference to your own wife seems lost on him. He doesn’t wait for her, when they arrive someplace, to enter together, for example.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:55:37am

Two Thoughts.

1) Every notice that when someone uses the phrase “genuine question” it is neither?

2) Is there anyone on this blog that doesn’t want to see Tracy get beaten for real this time?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:57:46am

re: #208 CongoJack

Why the DNC was railroaded as a pro-Clinton anti-Bernie is beyond me - almost like one of them wasn’t a registered member of the Democratic Party before.

Also - this idea of rigging an election (primary) for Clinton was seen as abhorrent (though it wasn’t rigged at all)… are we hearing any peeps from the “bullshit canaries” of what the Republicans are doing do make sure their god-emperor doesn’t have a primary challenger. I only hear about that on MSNBC, and that was only a segment on Rachel Maddow’s show.

It’s as if there is a blind spot that only a few people get to use… hmmm… I wonder why.

What gets me is the narrative of Bernie’s campaign being innocent and not doing the shady crap they in fact did. I’m not a big DWS fan but that’s because I thought it was a mistake putting a sitting office holder as chair, felt the same way with Kaine getting the job for reference. But I understand why the DNC was frustrated by Bernie tho at the same time, Bernie got a lot of what he wanted he never acknowledges as much.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:58:37am

re: #211 I Would Prefer Not To

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Two Thoughts.

1) Every notice that when someone uses the phrase “genuine question” it is neither?

2) Is there anyone on this blog that doesn’t want to see Tracy get beaten for real this time?

Where are Jamaicans’ ancestors from, Mike? What continent is Jamaica in?

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BigPapa  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:58:54am

re: #136 DodgerFan1988

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 9:59:13am

re: #210 Blind Frog Belly White

You know, though, I think he’d have been more deferential to Obama 1:1, like in a debate. But women are not worthy of respect, to him. That’s why you can trade them in on a newer model, cheat on them while they’re home with your baby, demean them publicly, etc. Even the basic etiquette of polite deference to your own wife seems lost on him. He doesn’t wait for her, when they arrive someplace, to enter together, for example.

I think so too.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:00:31am

re: #209 ObserverArt

So I see where a bunch of people misidentified one of the Covington Catholic High students, got that wrong students home address and then started threatening the kid and his parents and their business, all who just happened to have been celebrating a wedding on Saturday when it all occurred.

Not good. Not good at all. In some ways that will harden some of the people all caught up in this.

Instant justice. We had big problems with that in the past.

That’s exactly what Wheat was worried about and trying to communicate yesterday morning. Agreed btw. It reminded me of the Saudi kid in Boston.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:02:36am

And I don’t think the actual kid should be threatened either obviously.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:03:08am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:03:10am

re: #216 HappyWarrior

That’s exactly what Wheat was worried about and trying to communicate yesterday morning. Agreed btw. It reminded me of the Saudi kid in Boston.

This is why you don’t dox people, and you doubly don’t dox KIDS.

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ObserverArt  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:03:59am

re: #207 GlutenFreeJesus

So, that photo apparently showing Covington students taunting another kid from Clark (community???) high school? I’ve seen it stated it was in 2015. And then 2013. But I cannot find anywhere in any basketball schedule of Covington’s having played a Clark anything. While I have no doubt many of the kids at that school, and the environment itself are anything worthy of “Catholic”, let’s be careful here folks.

Did you get a chance to read Smith25’s comment from the last thread? You might find it interesting as it touches on some of what you are saying. See the link below.

I was a Catholic School student, and I had forgotten that what Smith 25 brings up is the case with a lot of Catholic Schools these days. It is a very important point.

And I hope a member on a break because of all the rancor over it reads it too. It is important.

re: #16 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:04:57am

moron

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:05:14am

re: #219 Blind Frog Belly White

This is why you don’t dox people, and you doubly don’t dox KIDS.

That’s what I was trying to communicate to our colleague from Nebraska.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:05:54am

Can’t we just identify Kamala Harris as a person of color and leave it at that?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:06:03am

re: #221 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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You were there for shorter than the song length of Abraham, Martin, & John.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:06:16am

re: #221 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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Insincere as fuck.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:06:37am

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Amen to that.

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Charmingly Persistent  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:07:52am

re: #186 Charmingly Persistent

Sorry, that got really long. I made it into a page, and removed the reply to Happy, since his comment was just one of many I was thinking about and far from the worst!

แอดไลน์รับเครดิตฟรี 50 www.iskcon-network.com.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:08:06am
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ObserverArt  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:08:19am

re: #211 I Would Prefer Not To

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Two Thoughts.

1) Every notice that when someone uses the phrase “genuine question” it is neither?

2) Is there anyone on this blog that doesn’t want to see Tracy get beaten for real this time?

When I see a tweet from him, I blow right past it. His takes on anything are usually pure wallowing in nothingness. I bet he is a hell of a belly-button lint collector however.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:09:32am

re: #201 Single-handed sailor

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The Conspiracy Industry is the real conspiracy.

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ObserverArt  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:13:15am

re: #213 HappyWarrior

Where are Jamaicans’ ancestors from, Mike? What continent is Jamaica in?

You know what? I don’t give a damn about Kamala Harris’ race background in that it has no bearing on the fact I like her and her politics.

She has a sharp mind, can be tough because of her prosecutor background and she can also be fun and light at the same time.

In some ways I can’t wait to see her in a debate. I think she will shine and I think that will give her some separation from some of the other candidates.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:13:19am

re: #227 Charmingly Persistent

Sorry, that got really long. I made it into a page, and removed the reply to Happy, since his comment was just one of many I was thinking about and far from the worst!

แอดไลน์รับเครดิตฟรี 50 www.iskcon-network.com.

It’s okay. Thanks. Your post definitely was right on. I have to admit to you, I was a little unsure on her. The qualifications aren’t an issue but I was legitimately worried HRC 2016 would be how I perceived HRC 2008. I was wrong btw. I thought she ran a very inclusive campaign and think it’s a shame that people let their preconceived biases lead them to empty suits who offered little by saying a lot compared to her who offered a lot but it was ignored.

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gwangung  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:13:54am

re: #211 I Would Prefer Not To

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Two Thoughts.

1) Every notice that when someone uses the phrase “genuine question” it is neither?

2) Is there anyone on this blog that doesn’t want to see Tracy get beaten for real this time?

Mr. Tracey is showing he has no black friends.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:14:32am
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freetoken  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:15:40am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:16:10am

re: #231 ObserverArt

You know what? I don’t give a damn about Kamala Harris’ race background in that it has no bearing on the fact I like her and her politics.

She has a sharp mind, can be tough because of her prosecutor background and she can also be fun and light at the same time.

In some ways I can’t wait to see her in a debate. I think she will shine and I think that will give her some separation from some of the other candidates.

I think so too but I definitely think her background gives her a chance to offer perspective on issues and yeah I’m interested in seeing what she will bring to the table and focus on.

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jaunte  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:16:57am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:17:13am
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ObserverArt  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:17:15am

re: #223 Eclectic Cyborg

Can’t we just identify Kamala Harris as a person of color and leave it at that?

How about we don’t even do that? I identify her as a Democratic Senator from California. It is obvious she is a person of color.

(not picking at you…just furthering my point in my recent comment.)

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:18:42am

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:19:09am

re: #237 jaunte

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Where are they coming up with this stuff?

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jaunte  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:19:24am

Not threatened, not praying, just dipshits.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:19:47am

re: #233 gwangung

Mr. Tracey is showing he has no black friends.

The way he acts I’m surprised he has any.

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gwangung  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:21:28am

re: #223 Eclectic Cyborg

Can’t we just identify Kamala Harris as a person of color and leave it at that?

I think the experience of people of color and their experience of having multi-racial heritage would be useful.

I think a lot of folks would be wise to defer to those with more experience.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:23:31am

re: #244 gwangung

I think the experience of people of color and their experience of having multi-racial heritage would be useful.

I think a lot of folks would be wise to defer to those with more experience.

That’s why I talk about color awareness and not blindness.

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MsJ  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:23:56am

re: #214 BigPapa

That is an excellent thread. Thanks!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:25:00am
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JC1  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:25:46am

re: #235 freetoken

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Her advocacy for stronger civil asset forfeiture powers is my biggest concern with her. We don’t need more ‘tough on crime’ nonsense; it’s time for the pendulum to swing back towards civil rights.

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MsJ  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:25:53am

re: #221 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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Photo op achieved.

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sagehen  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:26:39am

re: #202 Blind Frog Belly White

Pretty astonishing when you think about it, what horrible treatment HRC was subjected to with impunity because of her gender. Among other things, Trump would have been more deferential to a man.

No he wouldn’t.
(see Jeb. Ted. Marco.)

The press would’ve though.

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:27:33am

re: #211 I Would Prefer Not To

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Two Thoughts.

1) Every notice that when someone uses the phrase “genuine question” it is neither?

2) Is there anyone on this blog that doesn’t want to see Tracy get beaten for real this time?

Don’t worry. DORK Tracey and his pal H. A. Goodman will soon be beating the Birther drum about Harris.

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gwangung  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:30:00am

re: #248 JC1

Her advocacy for stronger civil asset forfeiture powers is my biggest concern with her. We don’t need more ‘tough on crime’ nonsense; it’s time for the pendulum to swing back towards civil rights.

Fair concern. I’m not comfortable with what little I know about her record as a prosecutor, but I think it would be naive to expect a candidate with a record that’s pristine as Obama’s.

And this is a concern in the Democratic primary, not for the general.

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ericblair  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:30:04am

re: #237 jaunte

I see the birther idiots are out in full force, claiming Harris is not a “natural-born citizen” because her parents were not citizens—for at least five years—at the time of her birth. But Trump fails that test, since his mother became a citizen in 1942 and Trump was born in 1946.

This is completely and utterly confused. With time-phased exceptions, you as a US citizen have to be a resident of the US for five years after age 18 for your child to be a US citizen IF BORN ABROAD. If your child is born in the US, and you’re not a diplomat or resident of occupied US territory, your child is a citizen.

But props to them going right to birtherism, because it just cements the idea that this is all racist bullshit from the start.

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:31:58am

And here’s another brain dead Republican whining…

Rep. Will Hurd (R-TX) wrote in an USA Today op-ed published Sunday that “some Americans” think the Republican Party “condones racism.”

Hurd, the son of a black father and a white mother, wrote in the op-ed that “it is unfortunate that more than 50 years after Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s death, the House of Representatives, a body that I have the honor of serving in, had to have a vote condemning white supremacy in response to the idiotic comments of one of our own.”

“As a Republican, I believe it’s unfortunate that a perception still exists in the minds of some Americans that the GOP condones racism,” Hurd wrote. “Our party was built upon the beliefs of President Abraham Lincoln, who took the significant step to put us on the long path for equality. Sadly, some people affiliated with our party have made racist comments that give legitimacy to hateful ideologies.”

Will, it’s because the glue that holds your party together IS Racism!

talkingpointsmemo.com

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:33:04am

re: #253 ericblair

This is completely and utterly confused. With time-phased exceptions, you have to be a resident of the US for five years after age 18 for your child to be a US citizen IF BORN ABROAD. If your child is born in the US, and you’re not a diplomat or resident of occupied US territory, your child is a citizen.

But props to them going right to citizenship, because it just cements the idea that this is all racist bullshit from the start.

We already knew that.

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freetoken  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:33:38am

re: #248 JC1

Though I voted for her for Senate - she was the best candidate IMO - I think her track record in prosecution is enough to raise questions.

I hope that in the townhall meetings she is going to visit that there will be people to needle her on these things.

Now, like Obama and some issues, maybe she has “evolved”. Which is all fine and good, if her actions will follow.

I think for Democrats in general, there will be a difficult row to hoe in getting activists on board, if there is anything that tinges on not getting the thrust of the various movements the past couple of years.

Harris may be willing to fall on her sword for the Democratic party, acting as a foil for the MAGA idiots who are all primed to go racist on her… as a way of exposing even more MAGA idiocy. I don’t know if she sees herself in that role or not.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:33:40am

I still feel foreign born people who achieve citizenship at some point should be able to run. We let them run for governor and Congress. And they serve in cabinets. Why not potus? It’s moot for Kamala as she is a NBC but man it would shut preemptive birtherism down.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:34:19am
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retired cynic  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:34:53am

re: #186 Charmingly Persistent

I think you should tweet that post to Hillary. It was excellent, and I think she would appreciate it.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:35:20am

re: #254 Joe Bacon ??

And here’s another brain dead Republican whining…

Rep. Will Hurd (R-TX) wrote in an USA Today op-ed published Sunday that “some Americans” think the Republican Party “condones racism.”

Hurd, the son of a black father and a white mother, wrote in the op-ed that “it is unfortunate that more than 50 years after Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s death, the House of Representatives, a body that I have the honor of serving in, had to have a vote condemning white supremacy in response to the idiotic comments of one of our own.”

“As a Republican, I believe it’s unfortunate that a perception still exists in the minds of some Americans that the GOP condones racism,” Hurd wrote. “Our party was built upon the beliefs of President Abraham Lincoln, who took the significant step to put us on the long path for equality. Sadly, some people affiliated with our party have made racist comments that give legitimacy to hateful ideologies.”

Will, it’s because the glue that holds your party together IS Racism!

talkingpointsmemo.com

I actually didn’t know Hurd was biracial. He’s still clueless about his party tho. Will, your party nominated Trump. We judge your party by its actions not flowery quotes of MLK and Lincoln.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:36:55am

Her record does raise some concerns. However, I think she’s gotten better in the Senate, something I don’t see her given credit for.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:39:12am

Can someone tell me how a person like my great grandfather’s American experience (he arrived here at 5) was any different in the perspective of being a citizen and part of the community from his younger brothers and sisters who were born after they arrived?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:39:34am
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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:41:13am

re: #257 HappyWarrior

I still feel foreign born people who achieve citizenship at some point should be able to run. We let them run for governor and Congress. And they serve in cabinets. Why not potus? It’s moot for Kamala as she is a NBC but man it would shut preemptive birtherism down.

NO!

Arnold fucked up California and it took Jerry Brown 8 years to fix the mess that steroid junky left behind.

One term of Arnold would fuck up America even more than Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:43:02am

re: #264 Joe Bacon ??

NO!

Arnold fucked up California and it took Jerry Brown 8 years to fix the mess that steroid junky left behind.

One term of Arnold would fuck up America even more than Trump.

Arnold didn’t fuck up California because he was born in Austria, Joe. Arnold fucked up because he was unqualified to be governor. It would be the same thing if American born Sly Stallone were elected. I’m sorry but it’s outdated imo.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:43:12am

I just had a baking fail. I made blueberry scones, following the recipe exactly. They were hard as rocks and just as tasteless. Sad! :(

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JC1  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:44:04am

re: #261 HappyWarrior

Her record does raise some concerns. However, I think she’s gotten better in the Senate, something I don’t see her given credit for.

In the Senate she’s one of 100 and in the minority party. Call me cynical, but she’s free to position herself for a presidential run without any downside.
What did she do before, when she had actual power to enact change?
I’d obviously vote for her in general over Trump or any other GOP candidate, but of the announced candidates, I far prefer Warren or Beto in the primaries.

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freetoken  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:44:20am

re: #262 HappyWarrior

Like so many other things with our Constitution, it is outdated.

The original intent was to ensure that the new United States didn’t have as President someone who was working for another country (the founders did not expect a Trump, clearly.)

The age of our lethargic institutions is showing. The Senate is now working against good governance. The Presidency is in the hands of a malicious moron. The Supreme Court needs an overhaul.

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ericblair  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:44:51am

re: #265 HappyWarrior

Arnold didn’t fuck up California because he was born in Austria, Joe. Arnold fucked up because he was unqualified to be governor. It would be the same thing if American born Sly Stallone were elected. I’m sorry but it’s outdated imo.

But wait! If we allowed naturalized citizens to become President, one of them might hand us over to a hostile foreign power and…I’ll come in again.

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:46:25am

re: #269 ericblair

But wait! If we allowed naturalized citizens to become President, one of them might hand us over to a hostile foreign power and…I’ll come in again.

That’s right. Putin could groom a stooge get him naturalized and then turn him loose to destroy us.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:46:31am

I just see immigrants I’ve known. They came here pretty young. Some don’t even have accents. They’re American all but in birth. We as I said allow foreign born citizens to run for office and serve in cabinets. There are foreign born people like Arnold who would be awful but there’s a lot of American born people who would be and in fact are. Obviously I’d want some length of citizenship prior to being eligible.

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sagehen  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:46:59am

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And what makes them so sure it’s a woman? It ends at the neck, so there’s no boobs or dick to make gender apparent. Men can and do have hair like that….

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ipsos  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:47:18am

re: #261 HappyWarrior

Her record does raise some concerns. However, I think she’s gotten better in the Senate, something I don’t see her given credit for.

Much like Gillibrand. She’s still not in my A-tier of candidates, but after having her as my senator for a while now, I think she deserves credit for evolving her views significantly leftward from where she started in the House representing a rather red district outside Albany.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:47:23am

re: #267 JC1

In the Senate she’s one of 100 and in the minority party. Call me cynical, but she’s free to position herself for a presidential run without any downside.
What did she do before, when she had actual power to enact change?
I’d obviously vote for her in general over Trump or any other GOP candidate, but of the announced candidates, I far prefer Warren or Beto in the primaries.

That’s fair. I’m more partial to Beto at this point btw. He’s not only written on these subjects but introduced legislation as well.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:47:55am

re: #273 ipsos

Much like Gillibrand. She’s still not in my A-tier of candidates, but after having her as my senator for a while now, I think she deserves credit for evolving her views significantly leftward from where she started in the House representing a rather red district outside Albany.

Yeah I have a friend from Gillibrands old district.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:48:22am

Y’all notice it’s only the non white candidates that have their “natural born citizen” status questioned?

??

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freetoken  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:48:57am

MLK was a flawed hero. That politicians today, mostly, fall all over themselves to promote themselves as some sort of fan of his is just pandering.

MLK did a lot of good, even though he was flawed. This is the nature of humans on a good day.

On a bad day… we get Trump.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:49:04am

re: #262 HappyWarrior

Can someone tell me how a person like my great grandfather’s American experience (he arrived here at 5) was any different in the perspective of being a citizen and part of the community from his younger brothers and sisters who were born after they arrived?

The dreamer argument in a nutshell. I dunno what I think about the citizenship requirement for Presidential candidates, but it’s not a hill I’m prepared to die on. We have no shortage of candidates, and the number of naturalized citizens who want to run is likely pretty small.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:50:45am

re: #272 sagehen

And what makes them so sure it’s a woman? It ends at the neck, so there’s no boobs or dick to make gender apparent. Men can and do have hair like that….

My thought too, but they might be thinking a man would have a beard

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:50:51am

re: #270 Joe Bacon ??

That’s right. Putin could groom a stooge get him naturalized and then turn him loose to destroy us.

Where is his current stooge from? Why is President different from Congress, Governor, or the Cabinet? If we’re worried about Manchurian Presidents, why not Congress or Cabinet? I’m just saying. The issue isn’t that Schwartznagger was born in Austria. Would he be any better had he been born in Long Beach instead of Linz?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:51:30am

re: #278 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

The dreamer argument in a nutshell. I dunno what I think about the citizenship requirement for Presidential candidates, but it’s not a hill I’m prepared to die on. We have no shortage of candidates, and the number of naturalized citizens who want to run is likely pretty small.

I’m not either but if it becomes an issue, I think we should look at it.

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freetoken  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:51:58am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:52:20am

re: #276 Eclectic Cyborg

Y’all notice it’s only the non white candidates that have their “natural born citizen” status questioned?

??

Dukakis’s folks were immigrants as was Agnew’s father. No birtherism for either.

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gwangung  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:52:26am

re: #278 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

The dreamer argument in a nutshell. I dunno what I think about the citizenship requirement for Presidential candidates, but it’s not a hill I’m prepared to die on. We have no shortage of candidates, and the number of naturalized citizens who want to run is likely pretty small.

Ted Lieu?

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Decatur Deb  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:52:47am

re: #266 The Vicious Babushka

I just had a baking fail. I made blueberry scones, following the recipe exactly. They were hard as rocks and just as tasteless. Sad! :(

I think that scores as a baking success. Because: scones.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:53:11am

re: #281 HappyWarrior

I’m not either but if it becomes an issue, I think we should look at it.

With the amount of time and effort it takes to pass and ratify a constitutional amendment? You gotta prioritize

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jaunte  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:53:47am

re: #285 Decatur Deb

I think that scores as a baking success. Because: scones.

From the chefs who brought us haggis.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:54:18am

re: #284 gwangung

Ted Lieu?

Ted Lieu is exactly whom I thinking about. I think it’s a travesty that an intelligent and patriotic individual such as himself can only obtain the Senate or Cabinet under the current rules.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:55:17am

re: #284 gwangung

Ted Lieu?

Well, “one” meets my criteria for a small number. Although I like him too.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:55:38am

re: #286 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

With the amount of time and effort it takes to pass and ratify a constitutional amendment? You gotta prioritize

I’m just saying hypothetically. I’m tired of candidates with foreign born parents going through this crap. First Obama, then yeah Cruz and Rubio, & now Harris. It isn’t right.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:57:29am

re: #289 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Well, “one” meets my criteria for a small number. Although I like him too.

Jennifer Granholm in Michigan was well liked and certainly would have had a future beyond Governor had she been born in the US. And as more of these immigrants come of age, they too. I’m not prepared to fight for the death for it but I really do wish people would acknowledge its antiquated.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:57:56am
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jaunte  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:57:57am
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freetoken  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:57:57am
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goddamnedfrank  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:58:27am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:59:17am

re: #294 freetoken

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Prosecutors aren’t cops. Being a prosecutor isn’t a bad thing. You’re going to need them if you want to root out corruption too.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 10:59:44am

re: #295 goddamnedfrank

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What in the name.

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Belafon  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:03:23am

re: #202 Blind Frog Belly White

Pretty astonishing when you think about it, what horrible treatment HRC was subjected to with impunity because of her gender. Among other things, Trump would have been more deferential to a man.

I think you could replace Trump with a whole lot of people.

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jaunte  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:03:27am

re: #294 freetoken

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Joe Bacon ??  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:04:38am

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William Lewis  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:05:12am

re: #266 The Vicious Babushka

I just had a baking fail. I made blueberry scones, following the recipe exactly. They were hard as rocks and just as tasteless. Sad! :(

And you produced what was the appropriate outcome - a scone.

Now a nice blueberry muffin would be soft and nice and amazing from you i’m sure. Or even a blueberry biscuit using a buttermilk recipie but scones will always be bricks.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:05:37am

re: #299 jaunte

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Yeah. There’s definitely some double standards there. TBH Bernie bores me and doesn’t inspire me. He just makes me see what does suck but doesn’t really offer a better future.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:05:57am

re: #292 Dave In Austin

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I’m a bit suspicious of that tweet, since it doesn’t exist. Even if it did, I’d still be suspicious (@ GauchoGuacamole? Really???)

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jaunte  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:07:57am

re: #302 HappyWarrior

His legislative accomplishments are insufficient for someone who has had years of opportunity.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:09:27am

re: #304 jaunte

His legislative accomplishments are insufficient for someone who has had years of opportunity.

Exactly. He’s been there since the USSR still existed and has little to his name. He doesn’t inspire you to dream. He just makes you go, yeah that sucks I agree.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:09:36am

re: #299 jaunte

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Some BernieBros I know support Tulsi.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:10:26am
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freetoken  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:10:36am

re: #292 Dave In Austin

That’s not his mother, according to various tweeters.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:11:02am

re: #303 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m a bit suspicious of that tweet, since it doesn’t exist. Even if it did, I’d still be suspicious (@ GauchoGuacamole? Really???)

You’re right — it appears to be fake. I know that IRL she did make appalling statements, but this was definitely not one of them.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:14:36am
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BigPapa  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:15:01am

The Taliberntercept was locked and loaded to come after Kamala Harris. I’ll wait for the campaign for her to answer any of these criticisms, if need be, and I’ll do my own homework, thank you. You got dam freaks.

So the Great CovCath Conflaguration has folded over into the Mainstream Media Got Played phase. Additional information didn’t exonerate any white kids but it did add all the context and nuance of a multi faceted interaction. Before we make any final assessments, we only have to review the parties reactions to the incident to confirm what you saw in the videos and accounts.

$5 sez MAGA Richard is interviewed by TPUSA or Fox and Friends in the next 48 hours.

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Belafon  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:15:44am

re: #264 Joe Bacon ??

NO!

Arnold fucked up California and it took Jerry Brown 8 years to fix the mess that steroid junky left behind.

One term of Arnold would fuck up America even more than Trump.

Bush, Reagan, Trump. I’m not sure why Arnold gets to screw it up for foreign born people and yet these three don’t screw it up for Americans.

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Belafon  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:17:16am

re: #267 JC1

In the Senate she’s one of 100 and in the minority party. Call me cynical, but she’s free to position herself for a presidential run without any downside.
What did she do before, when she had actual power to enact change?
I’d obviously vote for her in general over Trump or any other GOP candidate, but of the announced candidates, I far prefer Warren or Beto in the primaries.

According to a chart I pasted here the other day, that I’ll have to find when I’m at home, she’s actually the one of the most progressive Senators based on votes, easily outdoing Sanders and ahead of Warren.

Edited

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Targetpractice  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:18:05am

re: #310 goddamnedfrank

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And then, to double down, he declares that he won’t allow a vote on any bill that has not been negotiated by and agreed upon by the WH and Dem leaders…less than a week before declaring that he’ll ram through a bill ginned up by the WH alone to portray the DNC as “abandoning” Dreamers.

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Targetpractice  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:19:30am

re: #299 jaunte

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“We’re not a bunch of misogynist assholes! We totally support women running for the presidency…so long as their name is Jill Stein.”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:19:46am

re: #312 Belafon

Bush, Reagan, Trump. I’m not sure why Arnold gets to screw it up for foreign born people and yet these three don’t screw it up for Americans.

That’s what I’m trying to say and the fear of a foreign sleeper when our Queens born and bred speaks fluent Putin is misplaced imo.

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freetoken  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:20:42am

According to Heavy, Julie Sandmann scrubbed her social media accounts, so be careful of what people post:

heavy.com

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Teddy's Person  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:20:47am

deleted comment for poor reading comprehension

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Targetpractice  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:22:37am

“We wish to negotiate in good faith with the DNC to end the shutdown…which is why we’re ramming through a totally partisan bill aimed at nothing more than shaming the DNC into giving into our demands!”

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:23:40am

re: #314 Targetpractice

And then, to double down, he declares that he won’t allow a vote on any bill that has not been negotiated by and agreed upon by the WH and Dem leaders…less than a week before declaring that he’ll ram through a bill ginned up by the WH alone to portray the DNC as “abandoning” Dreamers.

He’s making up conditions as he goes along
The actual senate rules are simple: vote

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darthstar  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:23:55am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:25:40am

re: #321 darthstar

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It’s eerie.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:27:40am
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Teddy's Person  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:27:45am

re: #321 darthstar

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Elite private schools must teach the douchbag smirk in grade 9.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:27:51am

re: #322 HappyWarrior

It’s eerie.

I went with creepy

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:27:58am

The National Review. Such a trusted news source.

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JC1  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:28:22am

re: #313 Belafon

According to a chart I pasted here the other day, that I’ll have to find when I’m at home, she’s actually the one of the most progressive Senators based on votes, easily outdoing Sanders and ahead of Warren.

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Her career in public service didn’t start in the Senate. My concern is about what she did when she had actual executive/prosecutorial power.

I’ve never been a fan of Bernie.

Warren’s economic knowledge and consumer advocacy seem genuine. Given Harris’s history, her liberal turn in the Senate seems opportunistic.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:31:10am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:32:45am

re: #326 DodgerFan1988

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The National Review. Such a trusted news source.

National Review. Excusing racism since Buckley crapped it out.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:33:13am

I’m so confused on this Nathan Philips thing. At this point I’m ready to chalk it up to a bunch of people getting angry at each other with no one really knowing what triggered it.

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freetoken  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:35:08am
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ObserverArt  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:35:22am

re: #292 Dave In Austin

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EDITED OUT.

It was a fake tweet.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:35:22am

I don’t know what happened but I know this: NRO will always take a white person’s side.

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BigPapa  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:35:25am

re: #317 freetoken

Sandmann made his Twitter account private, but Heavy was able to obtain a screenshot of a post he made Friday on Twitter where he laments, “Where’s Ben Shapiro?”

My surprised face. Let me show you.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:35:36am
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Charles Johnson  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:39:43am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:40:33am

re: #330 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m so confused on this Nathan Philips thing. At this point I’m ready to chalk it up to a bunch of people getting angry at each other with no one really knowing what triggered it.

Josh Marshall has a pretty good explainer.

Basically, the videos support Philips’ description - things were getting ugly between the Black Hebrew Israel group (who Philips describes essentially as provocateurs) and the Covington kids, and Philips stepped in to defuse, distract, and redirect attention. It worked. Nick Sandmann’s (using his name now that he’s broken cover) description of his own actions doesn’t really align with what the video shows.

Still, it wasn’t “Racist kids try to break up Indigenous people’s demonstration”, and note that Elder Philips didn’t describe it that way when it happened, either.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:40:55am

but they can help create a pregnancy, and CHOOSE to walk away from it…

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Citizen K  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:41:49am

I’m just fucking exhausted how even proper allies seem to have their natural skepticism lead them to take the MAGA hat kids’ side because there were some additional bad actors involved. As if that utterly absolved the kids and damns Nathan Phillips wholly.

The fact that the counter narrative has fully coalesced as ‘the truth’ despite ample proof of the Covington Catholic kids being the same racist asshats they were pegged as before is….goddammit all.

There really is no racism that can’t be forgiven, even from people who should know better.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:42:19am

re: #330 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m so confused on this Nathan Philips thing. At this point I’m ready to chalk it up to a bunch of people getting angry at each other with no one really knowing what triggered it.

Seriously, that’s how they win this kind of nonsense
Throw enough shit around and no one knows….

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:43:03am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:43:21am

re: #338 Backwoods_Sleuth

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but they can help create a pregnancy, and CHOOSE to walk away from it…

You know if abortion was the genocide that the Catholic church insists it is, they wouldn’t be smiling.

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plansbandc  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:44:14am

re: #166 Mattand

He won’t. Thus telling him once again he can do whatever he wants. And another smarmy piece of shit racist white male politician is created.

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freetoken  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:44:29am

re: #340 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

The reason Trump and his minions gaslight is to make one doubt that one can tell what is real or not.

That is the whole point.

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ObserverArt  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:44:52am

re: #303 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m a bit suspicious of that tweet, since it doesn’t exist. Even if it did, I’d still be suspicious (@ GauchoGuacamole? Really???)

It does look like it.

Sorry for my comment. I need to go with 48 hour rule on every damn thing.

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Teddy's Person  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:45:11am

re: #342 HappyWarrior

You know if abortion was the genocide that the Catholic church insists it is, they wouldn’t be smiling.

They’re smiling because it’s about controlling women and asserting male dominance, not abortion.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:45:28am
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MsJ  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:46:07am
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sagehen  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:46:10am

re: #317 freetoken

According to Heavy, Julie Sandmann scrubbed her social media accounts, so be careful of what people post:

heavy.com

“Sandmann’s statement was emailed to Heavy from Louisville, Kentucky, public relations firm RunSwitch. The GOP-aligned firm was founded by advisor to Sen. Mitch McConnel’s Super PAC, Kentuckians for Strong Leadership and longtime GOP operative Scott Jennings.”

Oh. Okay then.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:46:16am

re: #346 Teddy’s Person

They’re smiling because it’s about controlling women and asserting male dominance, not abortion.

Precisely.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:46:22am

re: #338 Backwoods_Sleuth

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but they can help create a pregnancy, and CHOOSE to walk away from it…

Here’s a hint for those boys: If you don’t support abortion, never cause an unwanted pregnancy, because they always start with an irresponsible ejaculation.

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steve_davis  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:47:02am

re: #161 DodgerFan1988

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seriously? the whole high school contingent just happens to be wearing Make America Great Again hats, including the favorite of the alt-right: the white version? Hey, why not walk down the street with some sandwich boards saying, “I hate n******s”?

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:48:30am

re: #344 freetoken

The reason Trump and his minions gaslight is to make one doubt that one can tell what is real or not.

That is the whole point.

Yeah well we figured the schtick out
And once you do, it don’t work anymore

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Citizen K  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:48:37am

re: #352 steve_davis

seriously? the whole high school contingent just happens to be wearing Make America Great Again hats, including the favorite of the alt-right: the white version? Hey, why not walk down the street with some sandwich boards saying, “I hate n******s”?

Because we’re not that regressed just yet, but we’re damn well heading that way. And unlike John McClane, they’ll mean it.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:48:47am

I remember even when I was young like that, I felt I had no right to cast judgment on a woman for her individual choice in dealing with her pregnancy. That so many conservatives and even some libertarians who preport to be anti big government and for individual rights and liberties take the total opposite approach I think to me anyhow shows how hollow their principles really are and they really lose me when they especially gropus like the RCC oppose sex ed. People are going to have sex. A only education while lawful is practically speaking awful for young people.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:49:27am

re: #354 Citizen K

Because we’re not that regressed just yet, but we’re damn well heading that way. And unlike John McClane, they’ll mean it.

That will happen and the people upset about it will get lectured by the usual talking heads about how they “hate free peach.”

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:53:32am

re: #327 JC1

Her career in public service didn’t start in the Senate. My concern is about what she did when she had actual executive/prosecutorial power.

A slight acquaintance was murdered in San Francisco 10 years ago. She was burned alive. Her murderers are in prison thanks to District Attorney Kamala Harris.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:54:38am

disgusting moron

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ObserverArt  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:54:45am

re: #339 Citizen K

I’m just fucking exhausted how even proper allies seem to have their natural skepticism lead them to take the MAGA hat kids’ side because there were some additional bad actors involved. As if that utterly absolved the kids and damns Nathan Phillips wholly.

The fact that the counter narrative has fully coalesced as ‘the truth’ despite ample proof of the Covington Catholic kids being the same racist asshats they were pegged as before is….goddammit all.

There really is no racism that can’t be forgiven, even from people who should know better.

Are you saying someone that is a racist can never change?

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JC1  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:55:15am

re: #346 Teddy’s Person

They’re smiling because it’s about controlling women and asserting male dominance, not abortion.

I don’t even know if it’s that deep/complicated. When I was in high school, I would gladly have taken a field trip if it meant not being in class for a few days. Doubt they’re true believers in anything other than partying and whatever sports teams they follow.

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Belafon  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:58:44am

re: #327 JC1

Her career in public service didn’t start in the Senate. My concern is about what she did when she had actual executive/prosecutorial power.

I’ve never been a fan of Bernie.

Warren’s economic knowledge and consumer advocacy seem genuine. Given Harris’s history, her liberal turn in the Senate seems opportunistic.

From this diary: dailykos.com:

First and foremost, let’s point out that of all the attorneys general and elected representatives in the country during the financial crisis, there was ONE who chose to investigate and who went after the banks for a settlement. That was Kamala Harris. She didn’t get any prosecutions or convictions, but she did strong-arm the banks into turning a $2 billion settlement proposal into $25 billion of immediate payments.

This can’t be overlooked. Sen. Harris was entirely responsible for pulling out of negotiations in 2011 in order to force the banks to pay more. And it worked. So before you get all high and mighty about how you would have for sure jailed some bankers, weigh what good it did California families to get $25 billion compared to what they would have gotten from watching a complex civil proceeding play out over five years.

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Teddy's Person  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:58:46am

re: #360 JC1

I don’t even know if it’s that deep/complicated. When I was in high school, I would gladly have taken a field trip if it meant not being in class for a few days. Doubt they’re true believers in anything other than partying and whatever sports teams they follow.

In other words, asserting male dominance. So, they’re staying on brand.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 21, 2019 • 11:59:39am

re: #360 JC1

I don’t even know if it’s that deep/complicated. When I was in high school, I would gladly have taken a field trip if it meant not being in class for a few days. Doubt they’re true believers in anything other than partying and whatever sports teams they follow.

I think they probably believe it but they have no idea about abortion being anything other than “killing babies.” When I was a little younger than they are now, let’s say 8th grade since that was the year of the 2000 presidential election, I was friends with some Catholic school kids in my neighborhood. They definitely believed abortion was murder and awful. From a very early age, they had heard that not only at home but at school and the school encouraged it by having these trips to DC on the anniversary of Roe and I think even some trips to the clinics. I’ll still remember my one friend’s brother or maybe it was his sister bragging about how they made a clinic employee feel uncomfortable. Now I was and still am a crime buff so I watched a lot of America’s most wanted and I remembered the case of James Kopp, the murderer of Barnett Slepian and also Eric Rudolph who was until 9/11, I think the FBI’s number one top fugutive in the country so even I at the age of 13 saw the disconnect between what the pro-life movement said they were all about and the ugly reality. And no most anti abortion people aren’t murderers but Kopp was certainly able to stay on the run for as long as he did because he had helped from anti abortion activists around the world.

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Citizen K  Jan 21, 2019 • 12:02:03pm

re: #359 ObserverArt

Are you saying someone that is a racist can never change?

No, I’m not saying that on an individual level. But it seems like even from our better angels, this country goes out of its way to defend and inoculate racists from consequences. And even as things have improved on the surface, the shit just remains underneath and explodes out enough to remind us that we’ve barely changed as is.

And it seems like for every individual racist that sees the light, dozens more are either created or hardened just out of spite.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 21, 2019 • 12:07:23pm

re: #364 Citizen K

No, I’m not saying that on an individual level. But it seems like even from our better angels, this country goes out of its way to defend and inoculate racists from consequences. And even as things have improved on the surface, the shit just remains underneath and explodes out enough to remind us that we’ve barely changed as is.

And it seems like for every individual racist that sees the light, dozens more are either created or hardened just out of spite.

Indeed. Things like the “Is Trump REALLY Racist?” during the 2016 election cycle - ‘Is he really racist? Or just cynically appealing to racists?’ - as if there’s really much difference.

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Charmingly Persistent  Jan 21, 2019 • 12:12:36pm

re: #259 retired cynic

I think you should tweet that post to Hillary. It was excellent, and I think she would appreciate it.

I did that - thanks for the idea. Hopefully someone minding her account gets a smile out of it.

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KerFuFFler  Jan 21, 2019 • 12:15:04pm

re: #358 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump’s hairdo looks so rectangular from behind———like looking at the back of Frankenstein’s head.

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retired cynic  Jan 21, 2019 • 2:00:34pm

re: #292 Dave In Austin

HoLee SH*T!

And edited to note that it is a fake account. Whew.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 21, 2019 • 2:49:57pm

re: #348 MsJ

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Love it. That dog looks almost exactly like our new rescue down to the black ears and one eye patch.


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